RE: Wierd image / cocoon problem

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: daniel robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My sitemap specifies: map:match pattern=images/**.gif map:read src=images/{1}.gif mime-type=image/gif/ /map:match map:match pattern=images/**.jpg map:read src=images/{1}.jpg mime-type=image/jpg/ /map:match

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hello John, On Thursday 27 June 2002 04:41, John Austin wrote: . . . After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. . . . First

RE: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: yuryx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi all! Does is possible sent sitemap parameters into mounted sitenap like this: map:mount check-reload=yes src=test/ uri-prefix=info reload-method=synchron map:parameter name=use-connection value=personnel/ /map:mount Yes!!! ...but

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread ROSSEL Olivier
Probably you will appreciate to know that several books will be available VERY soon about Cocoon. BTW, several companies offers trainings about Cocoon. If it sounds too costy to learn it by yourself, you can be helped by professionnals. I agree that the best tool is the one you master. I have a

RE: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread zze-STIENNE Nicolas FTRD/DMI/CAE
I tried the solution you give but it don't seams to work (for me). No error message comes, I just don't obtain the values of the parameters. Note: Tomcat4.0.4, W2000, JDK1.3.1_3, Cocoon2.0.2-scr ( I know you said only in 2.1-dev version but my Cocoon start-page indicates version 2.1-dev )

Re: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread yuryx
HI Konstantin! Thanx for a lot, but I'm get the following error: /Element 'global-parameters' is not allowed at file:/usr/local/jakarta/catalina-4.0.4/webapps/cocoon/mobicomk/protect/sitemap.xmap:34:27/ I'm try this: map:global-parameters map:parameter name=urls value=default is

Re: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread yuryx
Oops! ...but only in 2.1-dev version... Sorry... Yury. yuryx wrote: HI Konstantin! Thanx for a lot, but I'm get the following error: /Element 'global-parameters' is not allowed at file:/usr/local/jakarta/catalina-4.0.4/webapps/cocoon/mobicomk/protect/sitemap.xmap:34:27/ I'm try

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. Fifteen hours on the Interstate wasn't as challenging as trying to figure out how

RE: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: zze-STIENNE Nicolas FTRD/DMI/CAE I tried the solution you give but it don't seams to work (for me). No error message comes, I just don't obtain the values of the parameters. Note: Tomcat4.0.4, W2000, JDK1.3.1_3, Cocoon2.0.2-scr ( I know you said only in 2.1-dev version but my

startup the cocoon-2.1-dev error

2002-06-27 Thread yuryx
Hi all! I'm just downloads from CVS the latest version of cocoon. after the make (with jdk1.3.1_v2) installing cocoon.war on tomcat-4.0.4 I'm try : http://localhost:8088/cocoon/ and get the following error: _The server encountered an internal error (Internal Server Error) that prevented it

RE: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread zze-STIENNE Nicolas FTRD/DMI/CAE
ok... and with 2.0.2, there is absolutely no solution to sent a parameter to a sub-sitemap ? and is that normal, I get no error message ? De : Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] From: zze-STIENNE Nicolas FTRD/DMI/CAE I tried the solution you give but it don't seams to work

Re: startup the cocoon-2.1-dev error -solved

2002-06-27 Thread yuryx
Sorry by spam... Regards. Yury. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

RE: negative time with Profiling on 2.1-Dev (was NPEwithProfiling on 2.1-Dev)

2002-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Just an update, I refactored the profiling code, now it works with the ProfilingCaching implementation as well and even readers should be supported now. Carsten -Original Message- From: Bruce Krautbauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL

Xindice and Cocoon

2002-06-27 Thread Cenk Uysal
Hi, I try to use Xindice as my XML source database. I know that Cocoon has special generators for this purpose. But I try to do this by the help of JSP(don't ask why :)). So we prepared a library which allows us to connect Xindice from JSP and get XML content by Xpath function that we enter.

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Good words Andrew. Andrew C. Oliver wrote: After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. Fifteen hours on the Interstate

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew et al. Andrew ... thanks for the kind words ... and yes I am co-authoring a book on Cocoon 2 due out on October 18. http://www.netswirl.com/publications.htm for details. John Austin's message that triggered this thread was exactly what I felt and experienced when I started working on

RE: sent map parameters into another sitemap

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: zze-STIENNE Nicolas FTRD/DMI/CAE ok... and with 2.0.2, there is absolutely no solution to sent a parameter to a sub-sitemap ? There can't be absolutely no solution in open source: you can add the needed functionality yourself, but if you describe why do you need then maybe somebody

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. John, it took me almost 2 weeks to go from 0 to 60 using Tomcat, JBoss, and

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Argyn Kuketayev
Good post :) Wake up, guys! John raised a real issue. You can't simply say Don't give up, be patient, read mailing-list, look into sources... and so on. If you want this framework to catch the train, then there must be better support and better documentation. I'm not complaining, by the way.

(possible context problem) after moving application out from Cocoon tree

2002-06-27 Thread Andrei Svirida
Hello Cocooners, I have a following problem : i had a cocoon application running at Cocoon Deployment Root/testapp and everything worked fine. After moving the application to c:\testapp i updated the entry in my main sitemap.xmap to map:match pattern=mmservicearea/** map:mount

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Good post :) Wake up, guys! John raised a real issue. You can't simply say Don't give up, be patient, read mailing-list, look into sources... and so on. If you want this framework to catch the train, then there must be better

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Argyn Kuketayev
-Original Message- From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:41 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Good post :) Wake up,

Why Tomcat 3.2.3 error ?

2002-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I cannot get this all day : My latest CVS build C2 ( 25 jun ) runs OK on Tomcat 4.0.3 but does not startup in Tomcat 3.2.3. On this Tomcat 3.2.3 I have earlier builds of C2( 1-2 months) running O.K. I am running cocoon thru Contexts ( outside tomcat/webapps) . ANY help / advise deeply

Re: Does anyone remember cocoon 1.8?

2002-06-27 Thread Marty McClelland
I haven't installed 1.8 in a while - and from my memory - this looks like the kind of error I got when I didn't follow the installation instructions carefully ( i.e. jars not in the right directory, or not loaded in the appropriate sequence, ) Have you searched the archives? marty -

open xml in .js

2002-06-27 Thread Cocoon User
i have a .xml web site serve it using cocoon into a .xml file i have information i want to use as data into an .js file using the following code gD.async=false; M gD.load(celebrations.xml);M gD.setProperty(SelectionLanguage, XPath)M using ie6 (local) i get all .xml

RE: open xml in .js

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: Cocoon User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: open xml in .js i have a .xml web site serve it using cocoon into a .xml file i have information i want to use as data into an .js file using the following code

using cocoon pipelines without servlet

2002-06-27 Thread Othman Haddad
hi everybody, i've got 2 questions that could help me a lot: 1) can i extract the cocoon pipeling mecanism from cocoon without using as a servlet? (i'm already using turbine and have a lot of code, and what just to use the interesting pipelining of cocoon)!

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Artur Bialecki
-Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:32 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing Good post :) Wake up, guys! John raised a real issue. You can't simply say Don't give

RE: using cocoon pipelines without servlet

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
[Please, don't use HTML mails] 1) you can't use only the pipeline from cocoon (at least, you can't do it easily), but you can use cocoon itself from an application and not a servlet. You can use the command line environment for that or create your own one. 2) What do you mean? Konstantin

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Eric Sheffer
I completely agree with Argyn's and John's comments here. But, I don't think the sentiments expressed are unique to the cocoon project. I'm a big proponent of open source software. I try to use it and recommend it whenever I can. However, I can't spend two weeks just getting up to speed on

RE: open xml in .js

2002-06-27 Thread Cocoon User
cocoon try to make xsl transformation On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Piroumian Konstantin wrote: From: Cocoon User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: open xml in .js i have a .xml web site serve it using cocoon into a

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andre Cusson
Hi, Just a small comment but I feel that a lot of the problem issues, and especially some of the complexity might be tied to where and how Cocoon sets the the interface between Java and XSLT. I have many examples in mind but in general I feel that more of the framework should be in xslt and

RE: open xml in .js

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: Cocoon User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] cocoon try to make xsl transformation And then? On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Piroumian Konstantin wrote: From: Cocoon User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: open xml in

RE: Ref. : RE: using cocoon pipelines without servlet

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
Again, please, don't use HTML mails, they are not readable for some users. 1) so you mean that if i have turbine i can't call cocoon? I didn't say a word about turbine. That depends on the way you are going to call Cocoon. Would you elaborate a little? 2)i mean something like: wrapping castor

RE: Ref. : RE: using cocoon pipelines without servlet

2002-06-27 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Again, please, don't use HTML mails, they are not readable for some users. 1) so you mean that if i have turbine i can't call cocoon? I didn't say a word about turbine. That depends on the way you are going to call Cocoon.

RE: RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric, You have made some good points. A long time ago I read a book Crossing the Chasm ... by Geoffrey A. Moore in which he talks about how projects get off to a good start and often go awry because of various factors. http://www.testing.com/writings/reviews/moore-chasm.html I think Cocoon 2

Esql build error

2002-06-27 Thread Michael Mangeng
Hi I´ m trying to build the actual CVS sources. After the warnings about the missings libs (php, jndi, ...) i get the following error and the build process stops: ... Compiling with Java 1.4, debug on, optimize off, deprecation off Compiling 524 source files to

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread daniel robinson
My .02, Thanks to Eric, Argyn and John for their honesty. And thanks to all of the Cocoon developers for their hard work and vision. I would like to add my comments to the reality check that is going on. I have over 17 years experience in the industry and have led developer teams working

Re: Xindice and Cocoon

2002-06-27 Thread Cenk Uysal
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Problem with FileGenerator

2002-06-27 Thread Andres, Judith
Hi, I have an XML file that I process using FileGenerator. So far so good. Sometimes have to delete this file while Cocoon / Tomcat are still running - the user requests me to do so - but I simply can't. When I shutdown Tomcat I can delete the file. Ok. I have already done some investigation.

Re: Réf. : RE: using cocoon pipelines without servlet

2002-06-27 Thread Ryan Hoegg
Hello, One example of a project using Cocoon with Turbine is the Jetspeed project at http://jakarta.apache.org/ . They have some architecture details here: http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/application-development.html I also remember in my reading of the Turbine documentation that

Re: Xindice and Cocoon

2002-06-27 Thread daniel robinson
Cenk, Try posting to cocoon-dev. Dan Cenk Uysal wrote: Is it difficult question? Why does nobody answer? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Re: (possible context problem) after moving application out from Cocoon tree

2002-06-27 Thread KOZLOV Roman
Hi Andrei, Try cocoon:// (to get access via root sitemap) or cocoon:/ (for current sitemap) instead of context://. Roman Andrei Svirida wrote: Hello Cocooners, I have a following problem : i had a cocoon application running at Cocoon Deployment Root/testapp and everything worked fine.

Retrieving sitemap paramters in a serializer

2002-06-27 Thread Gerardo_Flores
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the Parameters object to a serializer. I have a pipeline that has a parameter that I am trying to access from within the serializer. The code for both is below. The serializer is just trying to write the file to

RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Ash
Title: RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing Out of all of the posts in this thread I haven't heard anyone say that no matter what 3rd party software you use you will have to figure it out. At least with Cocoon you can get good support and fixes quickly for free! Buy someone

RE: Retrieving sitemap paramters in a serializer

2002-06-27 Thread Lai, Harry
Hi Gerardo, Here's a link to a previous discussion about this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10154269536r=1w=2 The short answer is that you can't pass a request-time parameter to a serializer; you can only pass configuration-time parameters (in the map:serializer element, when you define

RE: XML output transformed into XSP.

2002-06-27 Thread Graeme Colman
I know that this type of question has been answered a lot on this list but I still can't get this to work as I would like. What I have is an xml file. I need to transform this xml adding a few tags. I then need to put this through an xsp processor. so: pipeline 1: xml file - xsl - xml

Re: Does anyone remember cocoon 1.8?

2002-06-27 Thread Paul Gilligan
Marty, Yes I have just started with 1.8 for a production project.. not had time to look yet but get the same error - I was using the 1.8.2 from the default SuSE 8 install but this gave the above error. So I have downloaded the 1.8.2 lastest, build it and ran that under tomcat - now get:

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Diana Shannon
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, at 11:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time is the limitation that keeps all the developers from creating good docs in pace with the changes in the system. Occasionally promising open source projects get adopted by a big sponsor corporation which helps to

J2EE Datasources

2002-06-27 Thread Joshua McCulloch
Hello, I'd like to know if anyone is using J2EE defined datasources in Cocoon? I'm trying unsucessfully to connect to a MySQL database using the Orion J2EE server. I've defined a datasource in Orion: data-source name=Mysql

Re: J2EE Datasources

2002-06-27 Thread Russell Castagnaro
Hello Joshua, You might try looking up: myhms-datasource or jdbc/myhms-datasource instead of jdbc/MysqlDS The documentation from Orion should help you on this. I know I did the same thing using weblogic, but it took a couple of tries to get it to work. Also keep in mind that datasources

Re[2]: Does anyone remember cocoon 1.8?

2002-06-27 Thread Russell Castagnaro
Hello Paul, I love cocoon 1.82 and still use it in production systems. It was incredibly simple and flexible. the error you are getting was pretty standard. you need to I found the easiest way to deal with it was to change the resource url to a file or http

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
daniel robinson wrote: My .02, Thanks to Eric, Argyn and John for their honesty. And thanks to all of the Cocoon developers for their hard work and vision. I would like to add my comments to the reality check that is going on. I have over 17 years experience in the industry and have

null pointer passed as base exception

2002-06-27 Thread Leona Slepetis
Hi All, I have part of a pipeline that looks like this: map:match pattern=matrix map:generate src=gs.xml/ map:transform src=gs.xsl map:parameter name=pagename value=matrix/ map:parameter name=dealID value={1}/ map:parameter name=playerID value=123/

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Jorge De Flon
I understand the complaints and agree with many of them, but I think that they are somewhat abstract or ambiguous. may you detail them so that they can be solved? it would be very helpful for all of us. Thanks to all the contributors to the cocoon project, it is a great product, but remember

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm not saying there aren't issues. I'm saying his attitude is wrong. You pay for this by participating. If the issue was unknown this would be valuable, but this issue is known. Help fix it or accept it. Or fund someone else to help fix it. If you see a nail sticking up, grab a hammer.

Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
2) Documentation is not usefull - sorry. I've tried and tried. The closest it has come to being useful is that after I've spent hours on something and asked questions on the mail lists I have been able to go back to it and say oh.. that's what they meant What documents were not

Don't give up. The battle is worth the results.

2002-06-27 Thread Phil
Yes. If you want commecial support for Cocoon, get commecial support for cocoon. In Australia, Spark Digital are providing commercial support for Cocoon and re-writing all the documentation to fit in with a MaxOSX IDE they're developing which makes use of cocoon as well as several other

Unexpected behavior with imported stylesheets

2002-06-27 Thread Robert Bourdeau
Has anyone encountered this problem? Maybe it's not a problem, but a feature! I'm experimenting with aggregation, and the decomposition of stylesheets. When I change an imported stylesheet, it's not being applied by Cocoon until the importing stylesheet is changed. Environment: Tomcat

Re: Unexpected behavior with imported stylesheets

2002-06-27 Thread Phil
Imported stylesheets are not checked for modification and automatically rebuilt. There was a thread about this some time back and I believe that it's on a to-do list somewhere. Is anyone at apache able to confirm this? Your 'touch' workaround is the only solution that I know of at this time.

Re: Unexpected behavior with imported stylesheets

2002-06-27 Thread Peter Royal
On Thursday 27 June 2002 09:14 pm, Phil wrote: There was a thread about this some time back and I believe that it's on a to-do list somewhere. Is anyone at apache able to confirm this? Your 'touch' workaround is the only solution that I know of at this time. Anyone have any advances on

Please help with instalation

2002-06-27 Thread Boris Lipsman
Any help is appreciated on advance... I am trying to install cocoon on Linux machine that has JDK 1.4, Tomcat 3.3, Apache 1.3 When I am trying to build COCOON by running ./build.sh , I am getting number of errors such as: Compiling 752 source files to

Books on Cocoon

2002-06-27 Thread Alex McLintock
Andrew Oliver wrote: There are MULTIPLE books coming out on Cocoon, some by its very developers others by great folks like Conrad D'Cruz. In the next few months, such things will be clearer. I'd appreciate reviews for my website if people get these books. We should be getting a review copy

Re: Please help with instalation

2002-06-27 Thread Brian Blakeley
Boris, A quick and easy answer might be to try your build with JDK 1.3 as there are complications with 1.4 and the database connections. HTH Brian - Original Message - From: Boris Lipsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Boris Lipsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June