Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread MJ Ray
Erik Hetzner erik.hetz...@ucop.edu MJ Ray wrote: Will people please stop suggesting that PTFS's attempts to register Koha trademarks in various jurisdictions are somehow because of inattention on the part of the Koha users and developers? It was my intention only to suggest that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Emily Lynema
Just wanted to say thanks for the many responses. You all are right that this issue is not specific to library software in specific. It's not often that I hear such a resounding agreement from all responders!! -emily On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Erik Hetzner erik.hetz...@ucop.edu wrote: At

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Erik Hatcher
I'm with jrock on this one. But maybe I'm a luddite that didn't get the memo either (but I am credited for being one of the instrumental folks in the Ajax world, heh - in one or more of the Ajax books out there, us old timers called it remote scripting). What I hate hate hate about seeing

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Andreas Orphanides
jrock... I like it! I think Mr. Rochkind has a new nickname. And a new imperative: better get the band together for Seattle, Jonathan! Is it too late to dedicate a presentation slot to a performance? (Whoa, actually, seriously, a Code4Lib talent show would be AWESOME.) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Godmar Back god...@gmail.com wrote: That said, I'm genuinely interested in what others are thinking/have experienced. I've heard the don't send HTML argument, but in my experience, writing HTML template code and then Javascript code to generate the same HTML is

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the work in process, and I believe it will only work in Chrome right now. http://www.natehill.net/vizstuff/donerightclasses.php In this case, it looks like there really isn't that much data. I'd preprocess

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Erik Hetzner erik.hetz...@ucop.edu wrote: It was my intention only to suggest that trademark issues were something that one needs to pay attention to, not that the Koha community had not paid attention to trademark issues. Additionally, in the case of trademark

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Godmar Back
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I'm with jrock on this one. But maybe I'm a luddite that didn't get the memo either (but I am credited for being one of the instrumental folks in the Ajax world, heh - in one or more of the Ajax books out there, us old

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
Ironically, I had (or there was) some trouble with the term MyLibrary@NCState. Granted, the term was originally a variation of My Netscape, My Yahoo, and My Deja News, but all sorts of things followed it, like MyiLibrary, the Google Books My Library, and then there was a ALA thing. I'm not

[CODE4LIB] Job posting: Metadata Librarian, Princeton, NJ

2011-12-06 Thread Christine Schwartz
Metadata Librarian Princeton Theological Seminary is seeking a Metadata Librarian to assist with the production of metadata for a variety of digital projects. Responsibilities Responsibilities include analyzing metadata requirements and specifications, creating and editing metadata documents,

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Is it too late to dedicate a presentation slot to a performance? (Whoa, actually, seriously, a Code4Lib talent show would be AWESOME.) The rails conf in baltimore a couple years ago had an evening jam session slot. Sadly, it's really a pain bringing the accordion on an airplane.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Roy Tennant
I once got a cease and desist letter from a legal firm defending someone's trademark for metadata. I mean, seriously. Perhaps obviously, I ignored it. It's still in my files somewhere. Roy On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: Ironically, I had (or there was)

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
I too got a cease and desisted letter almost twenty years ago. I wrote a CGI script that would calculate the phase of the moon. I called it LunaTick. The letter was from a lawyer defending a trademark for a fishing lure. --Eric Morgan

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Mike Taylor
I have heard that it's best not to acknowledge receipt of such letters at all. Can anyone confirm or deny that? -- Mike. On 6 December 2011 14:46, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com wrote: I once got a cease and desist letter from a legal firm defending someone's trademark for metadata. I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Wilfred Drew
Over 15 years ago I got a threatening letter because I created a guide called Library Jargon and offered it up via FTP, gopher and email. Some rinky-dink company claimed they had a trademark and copyright to it. I wrote them back after doing a search via gopher on the tphrase in question and

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I'll admit I haven't spent a lot of time investigating/analyzing this particular application -- it's quite possible an all-JS app is the right choice here. I was just responding to the suggestion that returning HTML to AJAX was out of style and shouldn't be done anymore; with the implication

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Walter Lewis
On 6 December 2011, at 9:46 AM, Roy Tennant wrote: I once got a cease and desist letter from a legal firm defending someone's trademark for metadata. I mean, seriously. Perhaps obviously, I ignored it. It's still in my files somewhere. We had a variation in Ontario back in the 90s when a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Fleming, Declan dflem...@ucsd.edu: Hi - I'll note that the mapping decisions were made by our metadata services (then Cataloging) group, not by the tech folks making it all work, though we were all involved in the discussions. One idea that came up was to do a, perhaps, lossy

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread MJ Ray
Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu [...] Not allowing trademarks and patents for FOSS is complex if they're allowed for software at all -- should someone reading a patent and providing a free implementation invalidate that patent? That's the exact opposite intent of patents. (Note: I think software

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Owen Stephens
I'd suggest that rather than shove it in a triple it might be better to point at alternative representations, including MARC if desirable (keep meaning to blog some thoughts about progressively enhanced metadata...) Owen Owen Stephens Owen Stephens Consulting Web: http://www.ostephens.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Doran, Michael D
You had earlier asked the question whether to do things client or server side - well in this example, the correct answer is to do it client-side. (Yours is a read-only application, where none of the advantages of server-side processing applies.) One thing to take into consideration when

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Owen Stephens
I think the strength of adopting RDF is that it doesn't tie us to a single vocab/schema. That isn't to say it isn't desirable for us to establish common approaches, but that we need to think slightly differently about how this is done - more application profiles than 'one true schema'. This is

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Walker, David
I couldn't get json_encode() going on the server at work. This usually means your server is running an older version of PHP. If it's OS is RHEL 5, then you've likely got PHP 5.1.6 installed. http://php.net/manual/en/function.json-encode.php json_encode PHP 5 = 5.2.0 --Dave

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Dave Caroline
I dont understand the thinking and waste of time scanning entire csv files where a database table with good indexing can be a lot faster and use less server memory. Do the work once up front when the data becomes available not on every page draw. I subscribe to the read/send and mangle as little

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Nate Hill
csv files are what I have- they are easy for the not-technically inclined staff to create and then save to a folder. I was really just hoping to make this easy on the people who make the reports. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.comwrote: I dont

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Godmar Back
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: I attached the app as it stands now. There's something wrong w/ the regex matching in catscrape.php so only some of the images are coming through. No, it's not the regexp. You're simply scraping syndetics links,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Owen, Will
This is a *very* tangential rant, but it makes me mental when I hear people say the 'disk space' is no longer an issue. While it's true that the costs of disk drives continue to drop, my experience is that the cost of managing storage and backups is rising almost exponentially as libraries

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Dave Caroline
php has some nice and fast csv parsing abilities, use them as a source for your database. can then remove any regexp need still simple for the users snippet taken from one of my csv readers showing the prints in comments so you can see the data in an array this also keeps memory footprint down

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Godmar Back
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: You had earlier asked the question whether to do things client or server side - well in this example, the correct answer is to do it client-side. (Yours is a read-only application, where none of the advantages of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Jordan
Well said Will, Mark - Original Message - This is a *very* tangential rant, but it makes me mental when I hear people say the 'disk space' is no longer an issue. While it's true that the costs of disk drives continue to drop, my experience is that the cost of managing storage and

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 12/6/2011 1:42 PM, Godmar Back wrote: Current trends certainly go in the opposite direction, look at jQuery Mobile. Hmm, JQuery mobile still operates on valid and functional HTML delivered by the server. In fact, one of the designs of JQuery mobile is indeed to degrade to a non-JS version

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Godmar Back
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/6/2011 1:42 PM, Godmar Back wrote: Current trends certainly go in the opposite direction, look at jQuery Mobile. Hmm, JQuery mobile still operates on valid and functional HTML delivered by the server. In fact,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Thomas Krichel
Joann Ransom writes LibLime Koha is not Koha. The rest of the community use Koha. Misunderstanding of this issue is wide-spread. Case in point http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/2010-September/052195.html Cheers, Thomas Krichel

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-06 Thread Doran, Michael D
It's certainly true that limited energy motivates the need to minimize client processing, but the conclusion that this then means server generation of static HTML is not clear. I'm not sure anyone was drawing that conclusion. It was offered up as factor to consider. Current trends

[CODE4LIB] EADitor December 2011 (.1112) beta released

2011-12-06 Thread Ethan Gruber
EADitor is a free, open-source cross-platform XForms framework for creating, editing, and publishing Encoded Archival Description (EAD) finding aids using Orbeon, an enterprise-level XForms Java application, which runs in Apache Tomcat. I have released the latest stable code in downloadable

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Fleming, Declan
Well, we didn't end up doing it (although we still could). When I look across the storage load that our asset management system is overseeing, metadata space pales in comparison to the original data file itself. Even access derivatives like display JPGs are tiny compared to their TIFF

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Fleming, Declan
Hi - point at it where? We could point back to the library catalog that we harvested in the MARC to MODS to RDF process, but what if that goes away? Why not write ourselves a 1K insurance policy that sticks with the object for its life? D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries

[CODE4LIB] Namespace management, was Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Owen Stephens o...@ostephens.com: This is why RDA worries me - because it (seems to?) suggest that we define a schema that stands alone from everything else and that is used by the library community. I'd prefer to see the library community adopting the best of what already

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Montoya, Gabriela
One critical thing to consider with MARC records (or any metadata, for that matter) is that it they are not stagnant, so what is the value of storing entire record strings into one triple if we know that metadata is volatile? As an example, UCSD has over 200,000 art images that had their

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread BRIAN TINGLE
On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Montoya, Gabriela wrote: ... I'd much rather see resources invested in data synching than spending it in saving text dumps that will most likely not be referred to again. ... In a MARC-as-the-record-of-record scenario; storing the original raw MARC might be

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 20:52, Montoya, Gabriela gamont...@ucsd.edu wrote: One critical thing to consider with MARC records (or any metadata, for that matter) is that it they are not stagnant, so what is the value of storing entire record strings into one triple if we know that metadata is

[CODE4LIB] Job Opening: Anythink Systems Administrator

2011-12-06 Thread Matthew Hamilton
*Apologies for Cross-Posting* This is an exciting time for us as Anythink Libraries, as we are about to embark on a VuFind project and have just received an IMLS grant to develop a digital learning lab inspired by Chicago Public Library's YouMedia. This position will be part of the team

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread stuart yeates
On 07/12/11 14:52, Montoya, Gabriela wrote: Dream Team for Building a MARC RDF Model: Karen Coyle, Alistair Miles, Diane Hillman, Ed Summers, Bradley Westbrook. As much as I have nothing against anyone on this list, isn't it a little US-centric? Didn't we make that mistake before? cheers

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-06 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Thomas Krichel kric...@openlib.org wrote:  Joann Ransom writes LibLime Koha is not Koha. The rest of the community use Koha.  Misunderstanding of this issue is wide-spread. Case in point http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/2010-September/052195.html

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM, stuart yeates stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz wrote: As much as I have nothing against anyone on this list, isn't it a little US-centric? Didn't we make that mistake before? I wouldn't worry. A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part. I'd like to see a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Alexander Johannesen alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote: A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part. Tell that to the 1992 U.S. Men's Olympic Basketball Team. Mark

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Stuart Yeates
A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part. Tell that to the 1992 U.S. Men's Olympic Basketball Team. So, the response to my suggestion of an unhelpful US bias is a US-based metaphor? I'll just consider my point proved. cheers stuart

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-06 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
I mean, have you *seen* Drexler dunk? -Original message- From: Stuart Yeates stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 06:50:28 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part. Tell