Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Tim O'Brien wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:59, Noel J. Bergman wrote: You and Martin Cooper both favor Maven. If no one objects, would you guys be willing to do the work? I'm a not a Maven maven. :-) I too would favor Maven and could definately help with

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-17 Thread Brett Porter
1) I don't want to have to build every project [ie figure out weird Sun dependencies] just to push up a global site change. I can accept this though. I know diddly about the multi-project capabilities of Maven at this point, but I'm kinda hoping it will take care of this kind of

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-17 Thread Brent Worden
-Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:28 PM To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List' Subject: RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components No, the problem with Sun dependencies is that, at present, Maven is not allowed

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-17 Thread Brett Porter
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 1:29 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:28 PM To: 'Jakarta

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The geronimo project has written clean-room implementations of most J2EE APIs. Maybe we can get them to deploy javamail to ibiblio. Only the interface. It does not operate, AFAIK. --- Noel - To unsubscribe,

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I'd like to add tables for the Current Status, but it appears that tables are not currently enabled for our wiki. I've requested that from the wiki admin folks, so hopefully I'll be able to add them soon. You have? I don't recall seeing ... OH! You must have posted to the Wiki Admin list

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-16 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'd like to add tables for the Current Status, but it appears that tables are not currently enabled for our wiki. I've requested that from the wiki admin folks, so hopefully I'll be able to add them soon. You have? I don't recall seeing ... OH!

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yup. The WikiAdmin page lists you as one of them, too. ;-) I'm not subscribed to wikidiff, though. Um, OK. I guess I missed that we're changing wikis (again?). Again? The current Wiki is the original one that Andrew Oliver installed. The new one is MoinMoin, which has (amongst other

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-15 Thread Brent Worden
-Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:22 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components When I find a few minutes, I'll try to put up a page

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-14 Thread John Keyes
snip/ Shouldn't we cleanup the sandbox a bit first? (tar rm) The following components are graduated out the sandbox: betwixt cli codec daemon dbutils digester discovery el fileupload jelly jexllang latka

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-14 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, John Keyes wrote: snip/ Shouldn't we cleanup the sandbox a bit first? (tar rm) The following components are graduated out the sandbox: betwixt cli codec daemon dbutils digester discovery el fileupload

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-14 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Martin Cooper wrote: Personally, I'd prefer to see any given component exist (actively) in either Proper or the sandbox, but not both. Once a component has been promoted, it should stay in Proper, and its presence in the sandbox should be removed. I understand the history

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Mark R. Diggory
If everything were mavenized couldn't we use the multiproject plugin to render the entire commons sandbox on its own? Default settings would render at least a html shell for those projects that don't have a project.xml. Or simply maintain that all sandbox components should maintain a

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: there is precedent, albeit comatose, in the sandbox 'filters' and 'servlet' components. Yet another set of components that are not on the Jakarta Commons web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/). Did it never occur to anyone that

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Mark, If everything were mavenized couldn't we use the multiproject plugin to ... That is a means. I don't care about the means. I only care that it exists. If someone wants to mavenize everything, fine. If people object because they want everything to require only Ant, fine. I just don't

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread brent
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:22:16 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Mark, If everything were mavenized couldn't we use the multiproject plugin to ... That is a means. I don't care about the means. I only care that it exists. If someone wants to mavenize everything, fine. If people object

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread David Graham
--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: there is precedent, albeit comatose, in the sandbox 'filters' and 'servlet' components. Yet another set of components that are not on the Jakarta Commons web page

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Certainly, the differing build systems and websites are a problem. I'm just not comfortable yet with the idea that I have to build all component's sites to update a small piece of a component I'm directly working on. As I understand it, the proposal is to use the multi-project plug-in. I

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
It's only 12 days ago that the move was done. We could redo the move and then reapply all changes since the move. It is a little extra work but if the historical information is important it is probably worth the effort. -- Dirk Mark R. Diggory wrote: The only difficulty I have is that theres a

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Mark R. Diggory
this would be wise, before things get too different. What would be the best approach to tackle this? -Mark Dirk Verbeeck wrote: It's only 12 days ago that the move was done. We could redo the move and then reapply all changes since the move. It is a little extra work but if the historical

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
, November 13, 2003 5:28 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components I'm also willing to help a hand mavenizing the commons (sandbox) components. What do you guys think about the maven setup of DBCP as example (menu layout/content)? Shouldn't we

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
First we should inform all math committers of course. I will take a closer look tomorrow evening but we should undelete the files in the sandbox, backup the proper version, do the move like you described and then either redo all changes (including commit log) or do a simple merge. If there are

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Tim O'Brien
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:59, Noel J. Bergman wrote: You and Martin Cooper both favor Maven. If no one objects, would you guys be willing to do the work? I'm a not a Maven maven. :-) I too would favor Maven and could definately help with the transition. OK, that's three: Mark,

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Tim O'Brien
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 14:08, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Certainly, the differing build systems and websites are a problem. I'm just not comfortable yet with the idea that I have to build all component's sites to update a small piece of a component I'm directly working on. As I understand

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Mark R. Diggory
There are about 16 commits that I made after move, it shouldn't be difficult to redo these. I'll make an announcement to the group. -Mark Dirk Verbeeck wrote: First we should inform all math committers of course. I will take a closer look tomorrow evening but we should undelete the files in

Re: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread brent
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:26:31 -0500, Mark R. Diggory wrote: There are about 16 commits that I made after move, it shouldn't be difficult to redo these. I'll make an announcement to the group. -Mark You might try grabing the current code from commons proper and creating a patch againt the

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread brent
Different projects are going to want to update sites at different frequencies. I think we should make an attempt to achieve consistency throughout the J-C sites before attempting to create a system generate and publish every single J-C project. Different projects change at different

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Tim O'Brien wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 14:08, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Certainly, the differing build systems and websites are a problem. I'm just not comfortable yet with the idea that I have to build all component's sites to update a small piece of a component

RE: Web Presence for ALL Jakarta Commons components

2003-11-13 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different projects are going to want to update sites at different frequencies. I think we should make an attempt to achieve consistency throughout the J-C sites before attempting to create a system generate and publish every single J-C