On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
I just can't resist the opportunity to fork this discussion:
http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/09/13/One-True-Way
tee hee
have we pushed the apache way pages to git hub yet?
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On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
I just found the Eclipse project dashboard at http://
dash.eclipse.org/.
They've got pretty nice reports, especially the project activity and
diversity charts:
http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/active-projects.cgi
+1
On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail list was created in August 2005; the initial
charter is at http://wiki.apache.org/Women/InitialCharter .
We now want to take it to the next step and create a formal committee
(see the forwarded post below).
Just a reminder.
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On Nov 12, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
In short, inferring political information ... out of such graphs
analysis is purely speculative and should be taken with a little
bigger grain of salt.
+1
I sat thru a talk the other day were the topology of a PGP key was used
to infer
On Oct 8, 2004, at 4:55 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Use www.bugmenot.com if you need a password.
Comments? Is there anything the community thinks we could do to
address the situation?
Brian
...http://www.sdmagazine.com/documents/sdm0411b/
yeah, i got comments.
The single most toxic
On Oct 12, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 21:02, Ben Hyde wrote:
Projects that: fail to
welcome new comers; fail to bring in credible new contributors ...
well
they are just stupid. They will ultimately become dysfunctional and
implode.
Question; Should Open
On Mar 18, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
sheepish
I wasn't subscribed to community@ until now, so if there's something
there that wasn't xposted to general@, let me know...
/sheepish
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?
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Beware: content is public.
Wee! A reply-to header on a posting to committers. Way to go Greg!
Your an inspiration to us all!
Congratulations to Sander.
Much much more so: congratulations to everybody who slaved away on the
new license for all these many years.
Thank you!
- ben
On Jan 23, 2004, at 9:14 AM, Greg
Well it's all well and good until somebody get's hurt. For example
Ken's posting about how his Forsythia is blooming and meanwhile it's
-1F here and I gather up in NH there are places that are -38F. How do
you think that makes me feel? Hot and bothered, that's how! - ben
On Jan 9, 2004,
I like the planetapache.org approach. It mimize the coordination costs
of getting something up and running.
I'd encourage putting any stuff into the committer repository so you
can parasite on the infrastructure to allow everybody to pitch in who
cares to and just publish the results to the
http://www.superbad.com/robots.txt
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I'd not noticed this before:
http://apache.meetup.com/?change=1localeId=201
I find the idea of encouraging local groups forming around people's
interest in various ASF projects to be very cool.
That's not intended as an endorsement[1] of meetup.com. It is a very
clever idea though, a
On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 12:08 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
Classified for reading until I finish a proposal ;-)
A nice scheme against spam, I read about some time ago, was about
requiring the email sender to compute a
I wonder how subtle and detailed the printers can be? Black shirt, a
small pair of white dice, over the heart, the spots upon which are
feathers.
Then there is the ever popular enumeration in extremely fine print of
the set of committers; I've always wanted to do one of those with the
Clearly this mailing list needs a little levity today. Without futher
ado I forward this lame solicitation... As one of my correspondents
commented Clear Mr. Miller is not a native human-speaker, in fact he
fails the Turning test
Begin forwarded message:
From: Stewart Miller [EMAIL
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
- ben (who thinks that the web of PGP signatures doesn't grow
because people can't figure out the rules and are embaressed to admit
it)
..or they haven't been given a reason to care.
My dear friend Stefano - go ahead, pull my cord, bait me, tease me
/187BD68D 1997-09-30 Ben Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Key fingerprint = 90 AA 4C 16 6C 9D 12 DC 3D 8B 86 E5 0E 33
CE 52
When you encounter folks who might sign your key offer them the scrap
of paper with your finger print on it and ask for one in return.
Always ask to see some official (picture
This is now found here:
committers: docs/pgp-key-signing.txt
So that editors and pgp mavens can push it up hill.
- ben
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 10:52 AM, Ben Hyde wrote:
A conference provides a great opportunity to get your pgp key signed
and to sign a the keys of others
Ah! It sounds as if other people aren't aware of the background and
original intent. From what you are saying, announce@apache.org should
be
subscribed to announce@tlp.apache.org. That way announcements would
automatically funnel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is that right?
I'm not suggesting we reopen
Soliciting amusing war stories from the larger community would be fun.
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On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 10:46 AM, Serge Knystautas wrote:
Santiago Gala wrote:
I think a good equilibrium point between the marketing view of
security (making sysadms trust) and purist java technical view would
be to allow James not having to run as root under Unix (to handle
protected
,... the Concept Map idea
I listened to a talk by a guy who's obviously spent most of his life
hacking this thing;
http://www.compendiuminstitute.org/tools/d3einterface.htm
He seemed quite clueful. It was mostly built at ATT, then Verizon.
He has been trying an open source move over
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:58:16PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote:
Jeff,
Yes, and isn't it fun.
--fun snipped-- ;-)
So should we only do things that are fun?
Moving and re-naming files in an ssh terminal session is not crazily
graphical nor easy
Danny Angus wrote:
I've just got round to adding myself to the map
(http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map.html), late as usual.
Well done everyone involved, I love it.
Everyone else.. get yourselves on the map so I can see where you live.
Instructions:
cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs checkout
Doesn't work in emacs via w3 either! - ben
On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Danny Angus wrote:
It would be great to have a javascript wizard working on the UI, at
least on mozilla it is a bit fragile.
Oh yes, it doesn't work for me, better break out MSIE (cough cough!).
d.
A note were in Ben has post Vietnam flashback...
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NNTP makes more sense than SMTP for group discussions.
No, it doesn't necessarily.
I was in a room yesterday with a lot of people who have been spending
way too much time attempting to
Santiago Gala wrote:
Another one, ~n in ~nacho gives a newline in
krell/bin/scrape_location.pl, and thus fails. I don't speak enough
perl for this one.
My fault. I've poked a repair into the sources.
(Funny, it took 57 people to trigger these bug, while n should be
1/25 or so ;-)
We can learn
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
So one possible awnser to the question is: check it into committers
someplace and see if you can get a community to begin to emerge. The
privacy issues can be used as cover for not going more public
Agora and krell are both about navel gazing. My father and a colleague
once designed a complex optical instrument that allowed it's user to
gaze at his navel without lifting his head from the pillow.
These are interesting boondoggles. I like that they both consist of
little more than
If I hadn't moved the SIM in my phone into another phone they don't
support I could try this.
http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/archives/2002/09/12/000145.html
Presumably built on the E911 requirement.
- ben
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a hi-rez version of that
background map
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11656
http://www.radcyberzine.com/xglobe/
http://awka.sourceforge.net/xglobe.html
My favorite?
http://flatplanet.sourceforge.net/maps/images/1678k5.jpg
Dirk-Willem, Santiago - too cool!
Thanks to all for fixing my typos and adding more doco!
I can't make maps at until I convince one of the machines in my house
to build a version of xworld with tiff and gif||png support.
39 people in committers/urls.txt, but that's a small subset
the 600+ in
I've moved the map here:
http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
Too many enhancements in one day...
- ben
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 05:31 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
The map is looking better.
http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping
Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or
spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list
archives.
Humm, are we arguing with the stop sign here? We seem close to a
settling in on that rare and wonderful thing - a
Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
the markers on the globe.
Meanwhile I'm musing about some kind of policy
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
a solution using the current Wiki code, I imagine that it would look
something like:
http://james.apache.org/wiki/
http://jakarta.apache.org/wiki/
http://avalon.apache.org/wiki/
http://xml.apache.org/wiki
My understanding ... The current Wiki, not being
under any PMC oversight, would go away.
I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC
owned ones are a functional replacement. Put some markings on the
current one. Move content, leave interlinks. Try to nudge people
of learning from the slashdot experience thrown in for free.
Sorry for not really replying to your note. It's a big fuzzy topic...
- ben
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:50 AM, Costin Manolache wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC
owned ones are a functional replacement.
I understand your concern about data loss, and share it. See my
comment
about starting the new ones as clones of the current one. And no need
to
take down the
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:48 PM, Santiago Gala wrote:
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
heh. lookit all the developers in the middle of the pacific. :-)
I'm currently dumping people who's pages lack a location meta tag into
the Pacific, but I'm
Sander Striker wrote:
From: David N. Welton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:49 PM
Ceki G|lc| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
Does not compute.
Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider
This will scrap the locations...
#!/usr/bin/perl
use LWP::UserAgent;
my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new(timeout=30, agent=Krell-GeoScraper/0.1
);
# $ua-agent();
open(F, urls.txt);
while(F){
chop;
my ($username, $url) = split(/: */, $_, 2);
my $res = $ua-request(HTTP::Request-new(GET = $url));
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 06:20 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
Where's a good place to get (correct) coordinates?
I got mine off the topo-map in the basement stairway, come on over.
Failing that:
http://www.topozone.com/ -- you have to tinker to get lat/long
http://mapquest.com/ -- preferred
http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
cvs up committers
cd committers/krell
make
... creates map.jpg
assuming you have xplanet
A mac os x installer package for xplanet is available here:
http://macosx.forked.net/showcat.php?cat=Miscellaneoussortmethod=name
- put's it in /usr/local/bin
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
Henri Gomez wrote:
Questions :
- Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
I have no problem with PMCs having weblogs as part of their public
face. I am concerned that this diverts attention from the code
Joshua Slive wrote:
Ben Hyde said:
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use
Bemt wrote:
Cool +1..
I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the
ASF-KIND though)
Mvgr,
Martin
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From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Where are we?
I wonder if we could do
[1] http://geourl.com/
ekk! I meant:http://geourl.org/
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Never right specs in a fright container.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids :
Nee
geen Kabouter Plop!)
See
Steven Noels wrote:
That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge
representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why?
nope, KISS
Lies!
Ok so the file is in /etc/passwd style with three columns separated by
colons. The first field is your cvs.apache.org login id,
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Andy gave ... and Ben Hyde admin access.
Wires got crossed someplace and that didn't come to closure. It's
been
a while but it maybe that it stumbled at the get account on nagoya
You don't need a nagoya account to do it.
Possibly
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Andy gave ... and Ben Hyde admin access.
Wires got crossed someplace and that didn't come to closure. It's been
a while but it maybe that it stumbled at the get account on nagoya
step? No big deal.
I continue to believe that the wiki should be per PMC. Infrastructure
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Are there any policies regarding IRC use, and is there an
infrastructure
participation in setting on an IRC channel for a project, or do we
just go
do something? Several ASF projects use IRC, including tomcat,
Danny Angus wrote:
Therefore 13% of all hits are people checking for new changes.
So either we're all bored or theres a demonstrable need for effective
notification.
Yes I know, I was supposed to be looking at that too.
d.
It turns out if you build a event driven mail based notification system
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:53:52AM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote:
...
It turns out if you build a event driven mail based notification
system you shortly there after discover that it's too painful to
use. The Wiki
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 06:08:25PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote:
...
Greg Stein wrote:
In no way did I say it was comparably simple to standard Wiki
editing. Of
course not... jeez, just how small do you think my brain is? :-)
Well my brain got
loyalty, or very authoritarian. - ben
Ben Hyde wrote:
I'm enjoying this rss service, but, this is not the equivalent of CVS
mail; it's more analogous to getting a daily report enumerating which
files in the software were changed. While at first I thought that
wasn't a big deal, now it's clear
I love wiki.
Sander Striker wrote:
Who is monitoring the Wiki content at the moment?
The PMC should monitor PMC specific Wikis.
Some of that is sketched out here
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WikiProjectPage
... below peanut gallery
Steven Noels wrote:
if someone can patch the
I'm enjoying this rss service, but, this is not the equivalent of CVS
mail; it's more analogous to getting a daily report enumerating which
files in the software were changed. While at first I thought that
wasn't a big deal, now it's clear that it pretty much precludes the
proof reading that
My personal suggestion would be to find a way to partition the wiki
pages per project and send those diffs to the various project mail
lists.
Yeah, then the different projects can make their own choices about
lowering the barrier to entry vs. raising the quality bar. That is
both something
Is there an engine that can pull from RSS on one side, and e-mail on
another?
:-) It is probably the other way around. Email renders the
events, RSS tends to summarize those events.
A mail to RSS bridge is a variation on archiving.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?MailArchive
I
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:01 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
I've attempted to enumerate some of my concerns ..
I'm done. - ben
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Wow.. I really do feel like I'm at the Congress of Vienna.
huh? (and yes I know what the congress of vienna was).
It keeps coming back down to this:
open (we sit on the left)
closed (you sit on the right)
and it really keeps
It would be fun to have an Apache community aggregate of web logs, but
I have trouble seeing how it serves the foundation's mission. Sorry to
be a wet
blanket...
I'm concerned that if we create people.apache.org we create another
inside/outsider boundary. I've got a handful of other concerns
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