On Jul 1, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Pranav Desai wrote:
On 6/30/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 30 June 2007 18:39:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 to this unbundled approach. Also maybe add replacement
touchscreen
as this is probably #1 part most likely to get busted?
Sean sent his reply to me, since I first sent my comment to him just
by accident, damn Gmail. Here is his response for you all to see:
On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Ben wrote:
On 6/28/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're going to sell the Neo Base for $300. The Neo Advanced will
I just came across the OpenMoko project recently, but I'm enthused
enough I intend to buy one on release day, even if shipping to NZ _is_
expensive. I'm really impressed with the project, and after being
extremely disappointed with how closed the Apple iPhone is, it's a
relief to see someone's
I don't recall having seen a mention of this on the list previously, but
Fake Steve Jobs has taken notice of the FIC1973...
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/06/freetards-are-trying-to-make-iphone.html
Freetards, hm?
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All publicity is good publicity. Also, this is obviously satire.
Ortwin
On 7/1/07, denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Lefty Schlesinger schrieb:
I don't recall having seen a mention of this on the list previously, but
Fake Steve Jobs has taken notice of the FIC1973...
I also really like the script! Sounds great. The idea of some ads for the
openmoko is great. The question is, whether there is someone who will pay
that. FIC? Or do you want to show them on youtube and other free platforms
only?
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I think youtube is a very good means to spread some adverts..
Why not try it that way?
A lot of people/products have been promoted that way :)
Edwin Lock
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On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 16:51 +0200, Frederic Kettelhoit wrote:
I also really like the script! Sounds great. The idea of some ads for
the openmoko is great. The question is, whether there is someone who
will pay that. FIC? Or do you want to show them on youtube and other
free platforms only?
Hello together,
I really like the Neo. The software will be perfect, im sure. But there is
something about the hardware I dislike. Why is there no d-pad? Because many
people do not need one. Okay, but the Neo could be the perfect gaming mobile
phone. 3D acceleration, accelerometer, a rounded
+1
It's already on the wishlist. I like the idea a lot.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#D-Pad_and_Buttons
- Original Message -
From: Frederic Kettelhoit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: An alternative gaming top case
Date:
Thanks for your answers.
Don't know what I will do. Could be missing great hardware improvements if I
buy too early, but I would be missing a couple of months of excitement as well.
Tough choice :)
Will wait for the official announcements, and decide after that.
- Original Message -
Make that four buttons so it can work as a second d-pad. That works really
well on the Zodiac, DS and GP2X. Also four shoulder buttons would be nice,
one for every corner. Would make it very flexible and great for 2 players on
one device games.
Ortwin
On 7/1/07, Frederic Kettelhoit [EMAIL
I'm thinking about getting an openmoko phone and I have service with
t.mobile. Searching the t,mobile web page does not tell me how to add
data service to my plan since they think, there are no internet plans
compatible with my device.
Does anybody here know how I would go about adding data
David \Lefty\ Schlesinger
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I don't recall having seen a mention of this on the list previously, but
Fake Steve Jobs has taken notice of the FIC1973...
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/06/freetards-are-trying-to-make-iphone.html
Freetards, hm?
If you were writing
On 18:46:58 2007-07-01 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David \Lefty\ Schlesinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't recall having seen a mention of this on the list previously,
but Fake Steve Jobs has taken notice of the FIC1973...
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
If you were writing a tongue-in-cheek piece what pithy term would you
use for open-source folks?
Communists...?
It is all good clean fun. Don't take it too seriously.
I used to _work_ for Apple, and I know Real Steve... Believe me, I'm
the _last_ person
Why wouldn't it be so easy? Take a d-pad and four buttons, make some holes
in the top case and connect the buttons with the board. Where is the
difficulty?
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Cool idea. I think we should get the press machine turning on the inside,
and then set it loose when the Phase 2 is released and ready for prime time.
On 7/1/07, Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which brings me to a sudden (though premature) thought I had. I read
one or two other posts
http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2007/07/01/openmoko-on-a-treo-650/
Just some heads up if someone didn't notice already :)
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From: Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jul 1, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: An alternative gaming top case
To: Frederic Kettelhoit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connect the buttons with the board probably. Also the part about making some
holes into the top case and
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:59:27 -0500
Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cool idea. I think we should get the press machine turning on the
inside, and then set it loose when the Phase 2 is released and ready
for prime time.
I like the idea of net-distributed ads targeted at programmers. These
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:54:11 +0300
Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
su, 2007-07-01 kello 17:51 +0200, Frederic Kettelhoit kirjoitti:
So, please make a gaming top case for a few dollars more!
It would _not_ be that simple especially at this stage. I would wager
some of the future
This puts me in mind of this is the house that jack built:
This is the phone that you built.
This is the OS running on the phone that you built.
This is the browser running on the OS on the phone that you built...
Not sure if that's what you were referring to, as I haven't seen the
ads in
But there is a redesign of the board for the accelerometers, the wifi, and
the 3D Accleration. It would not be much more work to put a connector under
the top case. So if you want to play games, you just take the top case and
the back case, remove them, take the new gaming cases, add them. The
Wow, awesome ideads. I really like both scripts! So what could be the
advantages of the OpenMoko vs. iPhone. I could imagine:
* the resolution 640*480 vs. 320*480
* the GPS
* the price
* the replaceble battery
* the open OS and apps (so important that we need the most ads targeting on
this imho)
I believe the real issue is that retooling (changing the phone
enclosure) is extremely expensive. So it's not adding the connector,
it's modifying the case to fit.
Also, do we know that they're modifying the motherboard to add extra
features for the public release, or are there simply spaces
Frederic Kettelhoit writes:
Why wouldn't it be so easy? Take a d-pad and four buttons, make some holes
in the top case and connect the buttons with the board. Where is the
difficulty?
The part about retooling to do all that.
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Ok, that sounds not really good... Probably it is more difficult than I
thougt... But what would be with an expansion back and top as described in
the hardware wishlist? I would be sad to have a phone with open software but
without the possibility to modify the hardware. Probably I would like to
do it then. i'm sure you could prototype a case and buttons using one
of those 3D printer things (rapid prototypers i think they're called).
then you could market the design on ponoko or somewhere similar. when
you get enough interest, pay for a production run in polystyrene or
whatever, and flog
Annother possible scenario:
Neo: Hi, I'm an Neo.
iPhone: And I'm an iPhone.
* iPhone looks on a big map and tries to orientate himself
Neo: What are you doing?
iPhone: I try to locate myself by using Google Maps.
Neo: Oh, that doesn't seem to be very exciting. I use GPS for that kind of
stuff.
Sure -- building your own case is a definite option. Modifying the
motherboard yourself isn't a practical option (I say that from the
perspective of somebody who has successfully soldered a couple of SMT
components by hand), but there are some unused connectors on there --
in particular an I2C,
yes, great idea. i'm sure it could be hosted on openmoko - drawings
for the modified case, instructions for materials, prices and so on.
you can modify the hardware, just take off the parts you don't like
and replace them. want a new case in silver and purple? go for it.
want a case made from
Bzzz lets not get too carried away - are the Neo's going to have te gps
locations of every cinema globally - nope then lets get realistic about
what it can and cant do.
Nothing kills a product like overhypeor has someone written code for
a Neo to make me Eggs Benedict in the mornings?
Frederic Kettelhoit wrote:
Annother possible scenario:
Neo: Hi, I'm an Neo.
iPhone: And I'm an iPhone.
* iPhone looks on a big map and tries to orientate himself
Neo: What are you doing?
iPhone: I try to locate myself by using Google Maps.
Neo: Oh, that doesn't seem to be very exciting. I use
On 7/2/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bzzz lets not get too carried away – are the Neo's going to have te gps
locations of every cinema globally – nope then lets get realistic about what
it can and cant do.
As someone working in GIS - getting Point Of Interest data like that
isn't
That was exactly the example one of the german developer used to explain the
gps in a german podcast (I think it was Harald Welte in conversation with
Chaos Radio). The idea is, that you save some points and adds information
what to do there. So, a few meters around the cinema, the Neo switchtes
Nick Johnson wrote:
On 7/2/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bzzz lets not get too carried away – are the Neo's going to have te gps
locations of every cinema globally – nope then lets get realistic
about what
it can and cant do.
As someone working in GIS - getting Point Of Interest
Starting July 9th, we will launch openmoko.com and start taking orders.
There was talk about an European distributor. Will that be a coordinated
effort and start taking orders on that day too ? Also, it would be good to
get a confirmation on the Euro prices ( = USD+taxes/duties/shipping/etc)
well, i'm definitely interested in someone doing something like this -
and my background is in CAD/engineering/materials with a bit of CAM,
so i might as well start things off.
i can't see any schematics/CAD drawings up on the wiki - can someone
point me in the direction of accurate, precise
On 6/30/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 1, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Pranav Desai wrote:
On 6/30/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 30 June 2007 18:39:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 to this unbundled approach. Also maybe add replacement
touchscreen
Someone a while ago discussed plastic screen overlays. That seems the best
way to offer optional buttons, although a problem does arise if one wants to
press more than one button.
The other way is an expansion via bluetooth, or via one of the existing hard
ports. My dream handheld would be a very
Sean,
Supposing some company decided to provide alternate case designs or add
on products for the neo1973, who do they need to talk to about branding
/ authorization to sell them to the public?
OR
Is it possible that FIC or the OpenMoko company will have a section on
their sales page
On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 09:40 -0700, Brian Beattie wrote:
I'm thinking about getting an openmoko phone and I have service with
t.mobile. Searching the t,mobile web page does not tell me how to add
data service to my plan since they think, there are no internet plans
compatible with my device.
Kind of OT, but on the GPS thought... one thing it could do is map WiFi
hotspots to GPS coordinates automatically as you walk / drive around. That
way, for example, you could solve that problem of not being able to easily
find WiFi hotspots (which is the big thing against WiFi right now), since
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