Re: FM receiver and Traffic Message Channel?

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Sebastian Krause wrote: Hello! I'm wondering if there's an FM radio receiver built into the Neo1973 or any plan to include in the future. At least in the wiki pages I could barely find information about that. It's in the hardware wishlist. traffic information signalling - if it's the same as

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Giles Jones wrote: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Mark Eichin wrote: Joshua Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree 100% with Coomac. Sure it would be nice if we had a Digital SLR with us at all times but that is completely impractical. Unless you are some sort of weirdo chances are you are not going to be carrying that large camera around

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On 7/21/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! That's a wonderful list you made! I have one doubt though - how well would that AGPS chip work, especially in buildings. I have Garmin GPS which does not get signal reception if anything is between it

Re: An idea for an advertisement

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Giles Jones wrote: Clare Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Nokia 6110 Navigator - advertised on the back of the bus I followed on my way home, and this is way away in Perth Western Australia.. clare Thing is, we have better hardware than Nokia in terms of GPS. They use an AGPS

Re: Significant Numbers of Non-Developers?

2007-07-20 Thread Ian Stirling
Giles Jones wrote: Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Thet will be very good beta testers. And about that linux, always should be the first time. But linux has its own magnetism. Jeff, I think that some of them will install linux distro on their PC and a new linux

Re: Marketing...

2007-07-20 Thread Ian Stirling
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Adam Krikstone wrote: Make it simple and relate value to the consumer. Nothing really new. Design a stable openmoko platform with a aGPS application that geocodes a cached US map from an SD card. Show them what that can do for them in a course of a day. Then tell

Re: Shipping, Billing, etc

2007-07-19 Thread Ian Stirling
Peter Trapp wrote: I'm not concerned about the number of units. It's more about the delivery date. On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ: Are there enough phones for the number of orders? Will FIC produce another GTA01 batch if needed? Of course. Please note that there is a lead time of

Re: projects of interest?

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On 7/17/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need a good use for GPS, I want something like Tomtom but this How about POI[1] tracking? Simple idea: when the Neo user enters a POI, she or he presses a button (read: starts a program), the GPS waypoint is

Re: projects of interest?

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On 7/17/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need a good use for GPS, I want something like Tomtom but this How about POI[1] tracking? Simple idea: when the Neo user enters a POI, she or he presses a button (read: starts a program), the GPS waypoint is

Re: Free OpenMoko...

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Miquel Herrera wrote: Vincent wrote: ... On 17/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we should register those because if those were really to be used you can be sure a lot of people will end up on freeopenmoko.com instead. But it could be good to register

Re: projects of interest?

2007-07-17 Thread Ian Stirling
Daniel Robinson wrote: What are the projects of interest for people? I am interested in working on kid's phones. I have wanted a kid's phone that was not as brain-dead as the phones that are currently targeted at children. I like that the Neo1973 has a secure tether point. I want the

Re: Galileo

2007-07-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Hi, Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. It's not really openmoko related, I

Re: Galileo

2007-07-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Ewan Oughton wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Galileo.2FGLONASS.2FGPS_receiver GLONASS? Isn't that the Soviet GPS-alike that is mostly dead? What's remains of it I believe is currently optimised for use in Russian

Re: AW: 3G SIMs?

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: Well, in most cases yes, as all 3G SIMs (USIM) I've seen have been valid GSM SIMs. i'd expect that to be some requirement even :) OTOH there are carriers that are UMTS only (they don't have a GSM network), e.g. 3 in Austria. And others - '3' in the UK that don't have

Re: well, that didn't take long

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Phil Schaffner wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 23:31 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: A Neo is being offered on ebay. With a buy-it-now price of $416.00. Item No. 170129612124 Let's hope the top bid is, oh, $150. http://tinyurl.com/35bkor Hmmm - claims to have 4, no mention of the limited

Re: well, that didn't take long

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Werner Almesberger wrote: Phil Schaffner wrote: http://tinyurl.com/35bkor Picture caller ID That fellow is certainly way ahead of the rest of us, including the OpenMoko team ;-) There is nothing stopping developers making advanced closed-source stuff, and selling phones with it on ebay,

Re: Reason for openmoko - bugsafe?

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Edwin Lock wrote: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92713 Hello Openmokoers! This is actually the reason that I got to read about the openmoko, I read an article about mobile phones being bug-able some time ago and googled for an open linux phone. And I found the openmoko ;) Just a quick

Re: Reason for openmoko - bugsafe?

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
David Lefty Schlesinger wrote: Okay, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is possibly the silliest reason ever for choosing one phone over another. Cell phone communications are transmitted via radio, and are trivial to eavesdrop on with the right equipment. If you're actually worried

Re: Support for Left handers

2007-07-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Alexander Gabriel wrote: Giles Jones schrieb: Other things you need to consider is colour blindness, don't rely on colour too much to distinguish buttons. These are all basic HCI issues, I have an interest in such things. I am colorblind and I would really appreaciate it if the UI wouldn't

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Adam Krikstone writes: I'm with the idiots for a wireless carterfone decision. I don't think we were better off with with renting landline phones from ATT. There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. I'll agree

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-13 Thread Ian Stirling
Bryce Leo wrote: Now ian that's a sweet Idea but the only problem is finding a place to buy a psp display! For 289 I can get these http://teptronics.com/pl9phrb.html two things, just as trivially I have two 9in diagonal screens that I can use for just about anything! But yes, i very much see

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Brad Pitcher wrote: But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that point? Throw it away? I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and just selling it when you get the new phone. You should get a pretty good discount that way. And that way there are more neos out

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Don Park wrote: On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to

Re: Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-07 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Ian Stirling writes: This is _NOT_ security by obscurity. This is an attempt at making transmitters that can do very bad things in the hands of users harder to obtain. You've got some good points (which I've snipped), but it is *exactly* security by obscurity

Re: openmoko and gnuradio

2007-07-06 Thread Ian Stirling
Juan Cañete wrote: Hi people, i've just find out this amazing project, and one thing i wonder is if there should be posible (or maybe openmoko is thinking already about this) to design a mobile phone with the necesary hardware to run gnuradio. with that kind of architecture we could access all

Re: Feds snub open source for 'smart' radios

2007-07-06 Thread Ian Stirling
mathew davis wrote: Here is an article I stubled upon while reading slash dot. http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede http://news.com.com/Feds+snub+open+source+for+smart+radios/2100-1041_3-6195102.html?tag=nefd.lede It doesn't affect

Re: IM application and other questions

2007-07-05 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off I just wanted to say I am extremely excited for Monday's release and I hope I can get my order in for the first batch. Been following this project since it was announced in November. Since then I've compiled a couple different questions I was hoping you guys

Re: public access point database

2007-07-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Ryan Prior wrote: You seem to imply that there is a technical infeasibility that cannot be overcome. If the public point database were segregated by a UNIX-style permissions system and connected to via SSH, wouldn't it be just about as safe as any public file server or database? Files that are

Re: Phase 1 for normal users

2007-07-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Hans van der Merwe wrote: Will phase 1 be useful to normal users - like my wife? Is there a reason for her to fork out $300 to get a phone that functions just as good as her current SonyEricsson T360? (obviously excluding all the fancy stuff that is possible, but not yet implemented) The basic

Re: An alternative gaming top case

2007-07-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Sure -- building your own case is a definite option. Modifying the motherboard yourself isn't a practical option (I say that from the perspective of somebody who has successfully soldered a couple of SMT components by hand), but there are some unused connectors on there --

Re: An alternative gaming top case

2007-07-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Frederic Kettelhoit wrote: But there is a redesign of the board for the accelerometers, the wifi, and the 3D Accleration. It would not be much more work to put a connector under the top case. So if you want to play games, you just take the top case and the back case, remove them, take the new

Re: GPS bluetooth receiver

2007-07-02 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I use the GTA01B_v4 as a bluetooth gps receiver? And will it be easy to do. I was going to wait for the GTA02 in October, but in the meantime I'm about to buy a gps bluetooth receiver to use with maemo-mapper on my N770. Yes. It is easy to do at the moment if

Re: New Oceans

2007-06-29 Thread Ian Stirling
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: snip We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online infrastructure and figure out how to ship these phones. Sometime later today or early tomorrow we're going to make another announcement asking for some advice. Leaping in before being asked, and

Re: New Oceans

2007-06-28 Thread Ian Stirling
Emre Turkay wrote: First of all congratulations to the FIC team. Can someone enlighten us about which configuration (base/advanced) should one order? What is the use of the debug board? What cannot I do without it? Shall I be able to use it with GTA02 and later versions? Basically the only

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-20 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for non-invasive prototyping, there is also the usb port. That's really quite annoying to use though - as anything more than -1th generation prototype. You need external power, a plug that makes the phone unusable as an actual portable phone when plugged in, and a

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-17 Thread Ian Stirling
Lars Hallberg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: the GPS daemon would need to be updated to allow for kallman filtering using those accelerometers, so that the GPS apps could continue pointing the phones location inside tunnels and stuff Unfortunately not. As already pointed out on that list,

Re: Home Brew StarTrek Communicator

2007-06-17 Thread Ian Stirling
Emre Turkay wrote: On 6/12/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using really good coding, in good channel conditions, you may get 20 megabytes a second. Actually 10 MBits/sec = 1.25 MBytes/sec Indeed. However, in good channel conditions, you can squeeze extra bits into each signal

Re: Home Brew StarTrek Communicator

2007-06-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Dean Collins wrote: With the FCC 700 mhz spectrum coming up soon I thought some of you might like to join us for the Yi-Tan call next week? http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/home-brew-startrek-communicator.html Unfortunately. Part of the reason mobile phones work reasonably well -

Re: Home Brew StarTrek Communicator

2007-06-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Dean Collins wrote: Hi Ian, Thanks for your input. As discussed in the article the concept of the freespace is to allocate bandwidth to devices that meet 'requirements' but is otherwise uncontrolled. Maybe it didn't come across in the blog but the idea is that in this space you can build

Re: release date

2007-05-18 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the latest release date for the FIC NEO 1973, and where will I be able to buy it? I am holding off on company cellphone purchases until I see what the neo can do as my company is Unix only which makes it very attractive. If it will take till next year it will be

Re: release date

2007-05-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Tomasz Zielinski wrote: 2007/5/18, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For end-users, it's still September. It definitely doesn't look like the OpenMoko (software) will be ready in 3 months. I had doubts about the originalish schedule of Feb-Sep. May-Sep is challenging. I think it's probably

Re: Few comments after reading Wiki

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Werner Almesberger wrote: Our current hardware doesn't allow Flash protection to be done sensibly :-( So software/user input can in fact brick a machine to the point where the only recovery possible is through JTAG, e.g., with the debug board. I'm not saying this isn't a nice feature. Why

Re: accelerometer in neo?

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ST makes a 3 axis mems accelerometers that speak SPI [and I2C]. VTI has I2C only and SPI ones. I have the SPI/I2C one [LIS3LV02DL] made by ST but I don't have it working yet. I'm still in awe of how small it is -- much smaller than a tic-tac candy.

Re: Few comments after reading Wiki

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Werner Almesberger wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Why should a phone be better in this respect than a PC? Well, on the PC, you don't change the BIOS very often, if ever. Furthermore, the BIOS is in storage that your system doesn't usually access either. True, of course, though root can still

Re: accelerometer in neo?

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Hans L wrote: In addition to an accelerometer, the wii remote has a 1 megapixel camera for sensing the position of two infrared leds at each end of the sensor bar which is placed above or below your TV. The It's not megapixel, it's 20Kp

Re: Users and services is NOT drm, was Re: Few comments after reading Wiki

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Attila Csipa wrote: On Wednesday 16 May 2007 18:46:03 Ian Stirling wrote: I really think you do. I want to be able to give this phone to my (hypothetical) employees. I do not want skilled lazy, employees able to - for example - edit their GPS logs which corroberate the inspections

Re: Few comments after reading Wiki

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Stirling
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: This is _not_ DRM that stops the owner of the phone doing stuff. It's DRM that stops users of the phone that may or may not be authorised users from doing stuff. Think of it as a BIOS password on steroids. DRM never worked, and never will. it's

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Robin Paulson wrote: damn gmail reply issues.posted agian with correct address On 5/16/07, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last

Re: accelerometer in neo?

2007-05-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Robin Paulson wrote: i've been thinking recently about other applications for the openmoko, beyond the usual phone/maps/gps/internet access, and a couple of them require an accelerometer i could find no mention of one in the wiki, either in the hardware list or the wish list. does anyone have

Re: accelerometer in neo?

2007-05-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Crane, Matthew wrote: Hi, Wouldn't expansion via existing usb or BT be preferable? If a few types of hardware that's accessable via these ports has been developed with some sort of driver and application then further development will have a foundation to work off of and the usefullness will

Re: accelerometer in neo?

2007-05-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Crane, Matthew wrote: So what would one do with a cell phone with an embedded gps assisted inertial guidance system? Tape a rocket motor to the back for a new way to destroy the iPhone? To be boringly pedantic. An inertial guidance system is not possible with simply a 3 axis accelerometer.

Re: Maximum SDHC capacity supported?

2007-05-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Florent THIERY wrote: Hi As there are some 8GB SDHC cards out there, are there limitations on the neo? (as soon as it's SDHC, shoudl'nt be it ok?) MicroSD, not SD. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Ian Stirling
David Ford wrote: If it's anything like mozilla/firefox now, we're gonna need a hefty battery, hugely more cpu, and about 1G of ram onboard. Oddly. It seems to behave OK on my laptop - 1.5 - which I was using for some time with 128M RAM. Admittedly, it did need restarted every day or three.

Re: Battery powered charging/USB hub

2007-05-10 Thread Ian Stirling
Frank Coenen wrote: On 5/10/07, *Aloril* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Small battery-powered USB charger: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ I assume above should be able to charge Neo1973? No it won't be able to charge the Neo1973, since it doesn't

Re: Battery powered charging/USB hub

2007-05-10 Thread Ian Stirling
Frank Coenen wrote: Somehow that doesn't sound right to me. Like in the movies, when they try to hack a computer: there is always some OVERWRITE command, that doesn't require a password but will grand you access to all the files. Same applies here. Why put a safety-measure in place if you

Re: Input Method - Missing Buttongrip

2007-05-06 Thread Ian Stirling
Ortwin Regel wrote: I don't think the screen is big enough to make this necessary or usefull. Not to mention that the screen can't do multitouch. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 03.05.2007 um 13:32 schrieb Ian Stirling: wim delvaux wrote: FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. No. It is easy

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Sander van Grieken wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: That's not solely robustness though, air resistance helps lots too. Hmm do you propose a furry casing? I have in the past proposed little legs and arms like seen in the adverts. Fur would just be fun. However. To stop it getting tangled up, it'd

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Maciej Ligenza wrote: Sven, On 5/2/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also the biggest. It weighs almost *twice* as much as the LG Prada, despite having a smaller screen! [..cut..] The iPhone has a *much bigger* screen than the Neo1973 and it's still smaller and a lot lighter.

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Steven ** wrote: The question is how well does the Neo handle video?. There was some discussion on the list a while back about this. Sounds like playing/decoding video will tax the processor pretty hard. I'm sure someone will get it working, but I got the impression it would take some skill.

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-29 Thread Ian Stirling
Alex Schamenek wrote: Not really the point that quality 2.5mm headphones are available. They are a response to dumb phones having 2.5mm jacks when they should have had 3.5mm. There are more top quality 3.5mm headsets available. Vladimir raises a very good question: What is the jack intended

Re: Total Control over the phone

2007-04-28 Thread Ian Stirling
Christian Fischer wrote: Marco Miani wrote: hi everybody after lurking from the beginning of this list I have a question : Will we have total control over the GSM module? No total control. The GSM-Modules are closed and there is no chance (in near future) to get an completely documented

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Ian Stirling
Duncan Hudson wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: snip 4) Relax... you're not going to be able to add features to an iPhone. OSX is unix based, so you and I both know that one will be able to add apps to the iPhone. We also both know that for it to succeed in the business environment they'll have to

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-26 Thread Ian Stirling
Jim Thompson wrote: Duncan Hudson wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high.

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo Vladimír, * Vladimír Lapáček [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 12:58]: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír Lapáček: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That makes perfectly sense: because the majority of headsets for mobile phones are 2.5mm Isn't the questiont ths: Why doesn't it provide *additionally* a 3.5mm jack ? That

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Jeff Andros wrote: On 4/24/07, *Flemming Richter Mikkelsen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for hands free. I don't know if this is supported by the neo1973

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
polz wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2007 20:20:38 Ian Stirling wrote: Jeff Andros wrote: On 4/24/07, *Flemming Richter Mikkelsen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great

Re: open GPS [scanned]

2007-04-22 Thread Ian Stirling
Markus Stehr wrote: Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 08:46 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang S. Rupprecht: Unfortunately someone will still have to talk the company that manufacturers the Neo's GPS chip to cough up some usable documentation. Hang that thing into a logic analyzer and do it the old scool way

Re: Richard Stallmans standpoint about openmoko

2007-04-22 Thread Ian Stirling
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: snip I'm still wondering *why* we need to use an AGPS device that's so dumb that it needs the *host* to do most of the calculations, when we could have used a SIRF-STAR III sensor, that does everything inside, just like the GSM/GPRS module. this sounds like this thing is

Re: built-in scripting languages.

2007-04-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Steven ** wrote: On 4/3/07, Bryan Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] However, developers who choose one of these languages for their applications will not be able to see their applications included in the standard ROM nor available for use by those without an external microSD card. [...]

Re: Multi-Touch

2007-04-03 Thread Ian Stirling
mathew davis wrote: snip * The output is the center of the bounding box of the touched area * The touch point skips instantly on double touch * Pressure has almost no effect on a single touch, but not so on a double touch. The relative pressures will cause a significant

Re: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-04-02 Thread Ian Stirling
wim delvaux wrote: Seems to confirm parent's interpretation. The code is closed, and 'free' only in so far as Nokia are allowing a no-cost download of the beta version. Navigation is a paid-for upgrade. The license agreement prevents redistribution of the data files, and prevents

Re: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

2007-04-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Well it's probably going to be a while before I can code again...but I would love to see / help form a project to improve OpenMoko's UI. In my opinion, we need to create new verbs. Click, double click, drag, drop, etc... are not exciting anymore. The are relics from the

Re: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

2007-04-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Florent THIERY wrote: Would it be possible to get video captures or raw measurements of the touchscreen's reported coordinates? For instance, i'm pretty curious to know what exactly the touchscreen sees when you touch the screen with 2 fingers at the same time, when you move them, when you

Re: No stylus on V1 release?

2007-03-27 Thread Ian Stirling
kkr wrote: Le mardi 27 mars 2007 à 18:07 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 10:54 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007 01:16:46 Clare Johnstone wrote: Dear all, This frightens me in my role as mother, grandmother etc, i.e. a representative of the public to

Re: Wishlist: IR LED (was Freq Range?)

2007-03-23 Thread Ian Stirling
Edwin Lock wrote: IR LED would be perfect! Just think, normal mobiles like my siemens can't access the IR hardware because java(on the siemens) doesn't allow it. Only symbians can access IR as far as I know.. It would be brilliant if I could use the openmoko as a remote for my hifi and my pc

Re: Compressed SMS (and other text messages)

2007-03-22 Thread Ian Stirling
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: * Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070321 22:58]: Andreas Kostyrka wrote: ...plus probably a system that would automatically upload/download moko-ness information. snip This way all mokos could keep in touch, and people that switch phones more often would be able to

Re: Compressed SMS (and other text messages)

2007-03-20 Thread Ian Stirling
Mikko Rauhala wrote: 'lo Didn't appear in the wiki, so I figured I'd throw it out there first: compressed SMS for when a persistent TLS-encrypted and -compressed Jabber connection just isn't there (eg. if it would be too expensive in a particular locale), but you need to send long text

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: snip It's also not clear to me that more than two levels of security (open/password protected) are needed -- where password protected means encrypted using whatever scheme we've got. Personally. Unencrypted: Anything that you might want on display on the screensaver and

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Henryk Plötz wrote: Moin, Am Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:40:26 +0100 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would appreciate a fingerprint sensor - there are a lot of Asian mobile phones / smart phones with a fingerprint sensor... Yeah, but a fingerprint sensor adds only convenience and no security at all.

Re: Galileo receiver

2007-03-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Hans Bakker wrote: Hello, would it be possible to use an hybrid GPS/Galileo receiver instead of a GPS receiver? Galileo (although it is not available yet, but the receivers are) will be more accurate than GPS Futhermore building this into the phone will make that you can use Galileo with the

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Benjamin C Burns wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Companies like Cingular have been known to whitelist handsets. They *could* do it for the Neo. I highly doubt they would. I mean no offense here, but by whitelist, do you actually mean blacklist, or ban? I don't really follow the day-to-day

Re: Idea: Wake me during light sleep

2007-03-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Dean Collins wrote: Hey guys, you're missing the point. You need to stop thinking of the openmoko device being a standalone unit, you are always connected to your pc when in mobile phone coverage. Just use your gprs data link. Start thinking of the Neo as a portable 'viewer' to applications

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-09 Thread Ian Stirling
Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote: Ian Stirling napisał(a): Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote: Hello. Nils Faerber napisał(a): There is all sorts of wacky stuff - for example, peer-peer DGPS that can be done, where all stationary neos on charge with a GPS signal and a free

Re: Idea: Protective Screen Foil

2007-03-09 Thread Ian Stirling
Elrond wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 09:44:10AM +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia pi?tek, 9 marca 2007, Elrond napisa?: After talking to a few people on irc, it became obvious, that the screen is really superb. And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-09 Thread Ian Stirling
Philip Ray Schaffner wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 12:46 +, Al Johnson wrote: ... So *military* devices does it. But not civil. This is for *civil* devices. http://pro.magellangps.com/en/products/aboutgps/dgps.asp http://pro.magellangps.com/en/products/aboutgps/rtk.asp

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Klaus Rautenberg wrote: I read that all phase 0 phones are already in use and that the next devices are expected in late March or early April. Is there something like an order list to which we can register? I didn't found informations about how many devices will be available and we just want to

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Nils Faerber wrote: Ian Stirling schrieb: Nils Faerber wrote: Hi! I am interested in doing a little research on the AGPS part. As far as I understood the used Hammerhead chip will dump out the more or less raw GPS data into userland which will then need to be post-processed in order to get

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Martin Lefkowitz wrote: Still confused on the term nearby GPS A completely separate GPS unit, that is nearby, close in location, with almost the same position, ... Its only purpose is to measure the GPS coordinates - lat, long, time, from which can be derived the satellite signals sent to

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Thursday 08 March 2007 20:18:50 Ian Stirling wrote: A completely separate GPS unit, that is nearby, close in location, with almost the same position, ... Its only purpose is to measure the GPS coordinates - lat, long, time, from which can be derived the satellite

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-07 Thread Ian Stirling
Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 05 March 2007 07:01, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: As I understand it Andreas, the hackers lunchbox is including the dev board connecting thru the JTAG interface of the phone. You would purchace your phone seperatly. Someone please correct me if I missunderstand. This

Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).

2007-03-05 Thread Ian Stirling
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote: Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...

Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).

2007-03-05 Thread Ian Stirling
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote: Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...

Re: GPS for 911 calls

2007-03-05 Thread Ian Stirling
Michael Welter wrote: What is the protocol for sending the GPS coordinates to the 911 dispatcher? I don't think there is one protocol. Unfortunately, I suspect a 'say GPS coordinates' button on the 911 screen may be the most compatible way. ___

Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-03-04 Thread Ian Stirling
t3st3r wrote: so, operators are better to secure their networks. You do realise that this essentially means 'throw away all existing GSM phones' ? If you can clone the IMEI of a phone, the network has no way of telling it from the cloned phone. Yes, you can do potentially clever things on

Re: 'My Account' - a way to store information about the phones owner, so they can be reunited if it's lost.

2007-03-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: Reflashing never gets you back a different account number, it keys off the IMEI, which is not flashable. (well, perhaps it is, but it's not flashable from the linux side, and AIUI, nobody else knows how at the moment.) I really hope

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Steven ** wrote: I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F I uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi which is a better encoding of the video - 66M, but with most of the larger text visible.

'My Account' - a way to store information about the phones owner, so they can be reunited if it's lost.

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Stirling
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account is an overview of some ideas. Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the phone (bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user to set these as well as contact information for people to return the phone in some

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