Don't delete it; someone will recreate it. Make it a redirect to the
Category:USB page.
Fredrik Wendt wrote:
lör 2008-08-30 klockan 00:29 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB
My comment: Just go ahead! :)
/ Fredrik
Anyone know how to pair a bluetooth headset? I was able to do it on the
Qtopia release, but don't see an app to do it on ASU. Is there a
package I need to install? Am I just blind?
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Since we're top posting... I just want to throw in that I really like OM
2008.8. After seeing all the problems people had with it when it came
out I went to the newest Qtopia but I had issues with reception and
using devices like headsets/speakerphone. I then decided to try OM
2008.8. At first the
I'm happy now... Thanks Denis.
I'll try the new FSO image today :)
Paul
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those who may be interested in the gestures project
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures.
After some assist today kudos
create a map before departure, it's very
interesting.
Is there a way to preload map packages from openstreemaps based on coordinates?
So that we can create city or country maps, without actually being there ? :)
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Hi Fredrik,
Thanks. Recognized gestures, are already sent through dbus, check
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures#DBUS
Paul
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
I'll probably do a better integration
running gesm --neo2 --config /etc/accelges/neo2 --new up.model (for top
accel)
or gesm --neo3 --config /etc/accelges/neo3 --new up.model (for bottom accel)
What we might need to really improve the accuracy, is a gyroscope. Perhaps
in GTA03?
Thanks,
Paul
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav
There's a bug unfortunately with the landscape mode. I think half of it has
been corrected (on FSO).
Paul
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C R McClenaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Bravo - coolest app to date. I've installed on FSO MS2 with updates
for dependencies.
For me not only
Yes, I'll have to rethink the design a little bit to reduce power
consumption.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cool! Thanks!
1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2
Don't know what to say here, sorry.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:50:54 schrieb carcinoma:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt:
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Have fun with it!
i'm sad
Try the 2008.8 release.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work!
Also after
I'll probably do a better integration with the framework on the next
release.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really great work!
But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an
init script (even if the script can require the X
model you like - it's a continuous density left-to-right hidden
Markov model
Thanks,
Paul
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks good :)
Here's my experiences, don't know if these are planned for future releases:
I don't know if something is wrong
You're right, but with the expense of more computational power; and indeed
it's all about the features that the hmm, and classifier use :)
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@
onerussian.com wrote:
Well, that might be an idea to use both
with it!
Thanks,
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Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out.
Thanks,
Paul
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig
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Hi Paul,
On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki
Lorn Potter wrote:
Paul Buede wrote:
I am not sure the most appropriate place for this, so I will post my
issues here and take them elsewhere if there is a better place for them.
I flashed with the qtopia-4.3.2-080808-rootfs-08081019.jffs2 and
uImage-2.6.24+git30
Ok, I understand now. They can be made like you just said, only that I need
to recalibrate the whole thing, so that more states are created per cycle.
I'll try in a future release. Right now I'm concentrating on the UI, and
writing docs on the Wiki.
Thanks,
Paul
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Hmm.. Don't know what to say here. Are you using the 2008.8?
Older versions of rootfs used to make one accelerometer work, and the other
do not; but I never encountered BOTH of the accelerometers not working...
Paul
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
these above would be useful. I envision them to be made quite
rapidly.)
Stroller.
On 11 Aug 2008, at 17:46, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that -
I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release.
Yes
Thanks! :)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul,
Congratulations! This is a great advance feature. I'll be using it a lot!
Regards,
==Original message text===
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 0:35:39 PDT Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Hi
be e250609cd4838817be07e1934adcb375
But I have downloaded it twice now, and both times I get:
pblap:/home/paul/openmoko # md5sum qtopia-4.3.2-080808-gta02-flash.tgz
9f3de59d6f90868e39059ab634a6430b qtopia-4.3.2-080808-gta02-flash.tgz
Is this the case for anyone else
, I
will continue to improve it, and I'll use the Neo for my primary development
target.
More on http://gestures.borza.ro
Thanks,
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figure you painted in the air?
Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something
like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :)
Norbert
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 09:35 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Hi,
As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end
Those were some gestures that I thought were useful to use - due to lack of
imagination for short gestures.
If anyone can think to some short gestures, please tell me how these short
gestures should look like, and I'll create them.
We're not constraint to use those gestures, not at all.
Paul
of the
gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on
the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think
what I was upto, do the gestures have to the this exagerated or was that
just for the demo so people could clearly see what you were doing?
Paul
you painted in the air?
Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something
like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :)
Norbert
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 09:35 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Hi,
As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's
(as in
accelerometer gestures), and they generate signals: Recognized signal
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bravo Paul, I'm looking forward to this project maturing.
Will your next release be able to record new gestures or only detect the
ones in the demo?
Am I right
Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video
is not released yet :)
I will release a package this week.
try hexdump /dev/input/event2
and hexdump /dev/input/event3
and restart your Neo :)
Paul
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
for each gesture.
Paul
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
...
There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I
will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've
The listener daemon doesn't start up automatically, only the one that
recognizes gestures.
For on, it just sends the recognized gesture, regardless of the context the
phone is.
Paul
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote
/accelges/source/browse/accelges_svn.bb
Thanks,
Daniel
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Daniel Willmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Hey,
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0200
Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video
showing
Tim Erwin wrote:
I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now
I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or
more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No
network as it does with a signal.
I am using the qtopia
Tim Erwin wrote:
Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this
morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is
weaker.
I am just using the stock image from qtopia, I haven't done any updating.
I will do a update and see if I get the same
-SWAP_W0QQitemZ270245436267QQihZ017QQcategoryZ29778QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
2) Go to ATT store and tell them you got a new device. Ask them to
give you a 4022 card. [ Better way would be to act dumb, try different
cards till you get a 4022, it seems like ATT likes dumb customers
than the geeks].
Regards
Sumod
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Paul Buede
Ok, so I am still searching for the right carrier, but thats another
story. In the meantime I thought I could add to some discussion here:
With a brand new ATT sim, I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
This program is
Matt Joyce wrote:
The wiki has some interesting info on GSM :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm
The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands
(I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem
commands ala Hayes?)
I am trying to do a couple things, and noticed I don't see expect or
cron in the opkg list, or on the freerunner. Can someone, who packages,
make those available? I suppose I can try to set up a dev environment,
guess I could put make and stuff on the phone. I am pinched for time
though, so I
Paul Buede wrote:
Matt Joyce wrote:
The wiki has some interesting info on GSM :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm
The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands
(I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem
Steven Kurylo wrote:
And that the three operators I could see in my tests
must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile
SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US
Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I
ian douglas wrote:
Paul Buede wrote:
the coverage isn't great in the rural areas I find myself. When driving
around, if out of reach of tmobile, it will say registering as if
there is no sim card. But, on the little image of the antenna, that
shows how strong my connection is, I still
So, I picked up a tmobile sim, and signed up with them (I have another
week to cancel), and so the phone registers with tmobile. I am finding
the coverage isn't great in the rural areas I find myself. When driving
around, if out of reach of tmobile, it will say registering as if
there is no sim
Hey, I was looking at the wiki but could not find something that laid
the steps out for me.
I have been messing with the default image, and have it upgraded as of
yesterday. I want to check out the ASU image. Whats the best way to do
that? I don't have anything in the phone yet that I want to
Yocto wrote:
One more thing I like with other mailing lists.
They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in
square brackets.
This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails.
Examples: [jQuery],[Qemu-devel], [ECOS], [Rtai], [vlc]
It would be nice
for 192.168.0.202 has changed and you have requested strict
checking.
Host key verification failed.
=
Can anyone suggest me the problem and the solution to fix it.
Remove line 3 from /home/saurabhg/.ssh/known_hosts. That should fix it.
Paul
with technical
knowledge have their own responsibilities, not limited to correcting stuff
that they've contributed and auditing any subsequent edits.
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with their google apps nonsense, false
'on stock' messages, etc
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Alex Oberhauser wrote:
Bumbl wrote:
It would be more important to not run everything as root I think
This will be also a main focus. When we receive the Freerunners, we will see
how fast we can change this bad state.
Personally, I'd be more interested in an encrypted
perhaps?
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I purchased an openmoko though. I'm tired of fighting against
mobile phone vendors.
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at it as soon as I can order my Freerunner in Canada
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote:
As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko..
Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :)
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Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get
the new one, share what providers you are using? Also, any details would
be great. I am going to be leaving Sprint, and ditching my Treo 650 for
the new phone. It is very exciting, but I am a little lost as to what all
Count me in.
Feydreva wrote:
It seems we will never have 10 people in VA, nor in Maryland, nor in
New york.
New york group is already 5. Why not all go in the NY group then ?
I was thinking joining the NY group, and get someone to send me the
phone in VA.
Philippe
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to closed phones. If I wanted that, I
would already own an iphone.
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steve wrote:
Mass Pro is slated to start between may9 and may 16. Steve's rule say add a
week. Then you got test, then you shipping.
On Monday ( or maybe Sunday night for my EU friends ) I will do an update.
Could you also include status of debug boards? Will they go on sale at
the same
Ponoko has acrylic in 1/8 and some 1/4 thicknesses that you can
get laser-cut for fairly reasonable prices - IIRC, they just opened
a bay-area cut/ship center to reduce shipping in the US (they're originally
from New Zealand!). Looks like a typical project from 7x7x1/8 acrylic
is around $10-$20.
If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30
minutes from you.
Kevin Dean wrote:
Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve
gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be
broken up by region.
It costs $14.40 to ship a
(and
exciting) such technologies are for both users and developers.
Paul
P.S. I apologise if anyone perceives this message to be overly promotional. My
intention is merely to encourage people to consider EuroPython as a venue to
show the exciting things going on in this community to an audience
I started one for Maryland, I live out past Frederick, so I am in the DC
area.
Joshua Broussard wrote:
How have I not yet seen a call for group orders from the WMA to
Baltimore, but there is one for Utah... No offense Utah...
Any interest?
r/ Josh
Related to making openmoko gear - is there vector art of the logo
somewhere? I checked the wiki and couldn't find a reference, and checked
downloads.openmoko.com and again came up empty. Inquiring minds want to
know! Also, if it is published, we'd probably want some kind of license
to use it that
Hi Michael,
This is a good start, very informative. Some good additions, I think,
would be:
* Why does computer/usb charging max out at 500mA? is that a
limitation of the USB spec?
* you mention 'other manufacturers' that 'identify their own chargers'
with various resistors... if
On Monday, Apr 14, 2008, steve writes:
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want it.
Anyone have
How about a case that's part metal and part plastic? Make it plastic just
around
the antennas (which, IIRC are at the 'ends' of the phone) and metal everywhere
else?
Heck, it could end up having a *good* effect by being extra shielding between
the antennas
and the (noisy) electronics of the
On Thursday, Feb 14, 2008, Kyle Bassett writes:
There is talk about pushing startup power control of the internal devices
(wifi, bt, gps, mmc, etc.) to user level, as every user may or may not want
certain devices available at bootup/all the time (availability vs.
duration).
Indeed, this along
Lorn Potter wrote:
Trolltech released Qtopia Phone 4.3.1 today, and with it, a new flash
image and vmware based open source Qtopia SDK for the Neo.
Thanks Lorn.
Could you also perhaps briefly mention what's new in this release?
Cheers,
Paul
+1
Software by its nature is easier to fix than hardware or even
firmware; this approach does the Right Thing: vendors win
because the firmware layer just got a whole lot easier to write
and the rest of the world wins because we get as much control
as legally permissible of our hardware.
On
At the lowest level GPS runs hardware ranges or time offsets from
each satellite.
This does not directly give you a position. Some significant
spherical trig is necessary to turn this into position.
A lot of (AGPS) phones only have that hardware and rely on some system software
(maybe not
On Saturday, Sep 15, 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
does anyone happen to know if the debug board of the advanced Neo
kit will be compatible with future versions of the Neo (or other FIC OpenMok
o phones, at that)?
It will definitely be compatible w/ GTA02. As for
started.
Cheers,
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slid into the LOCK position.
Cheers,
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connection if you want to do GSM data
calls - unless you want to do a cryptophone style DiffieHellman.
I am not sure if the latter one is patented.
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effort women have to
put in, and extra shit they have to endure, to be seen as equal to male
developers. It is not about the Readers Digests prejudice of women talk
more on the phone or the different design of a GUI based on gender.
Paul
So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have
, and followed
others across a north-american trip on a day to day basis:
Identity Trail: Covert Surveillance Using DNS
Saikat Guha and Paul Francis (Cornell University)
http://petworkshop.org/2007/papers/PET2007_preproc_Identity_trail.pdf
Which brings up an interesting point of how to deal with DNS
requests
of bird is smaller than a
finch? sparrow?)
I'm the packager for gaim-otr/pidgin-otr. I do hope that pidgin can be build
for the Openmoko. I haven't looked at the required effort though.
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. (The Parawireless HIPI for one is
awful in that respect)
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Is anyone successfully developing openmoko software on other platforms?
Quite a bit of good work could get done if there was an x86 openmoko
build. Of course, it might be impossible to actually make a phone
call, but other interesting components could be developed.
Paul
On Jun 21
still be very interested in seeing what they are cooking up.
Paul
Cheers,
Dean
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2007, Peter Hoffmann writes:
Hi
i just stumbled over a video at the google talks series[0] about
information-efficient text entry using dasher[1].
I think this is quite an interesting input method for mobile devices
with touch screens or motion sensors. And it is open source
the external. Seems like some creative API mapping could
make the two types of communication similar.
3) Why is there a browser on your server side picture?
Paul
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On Apr 17, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Paul Lambert wrote:
Cool ... Comments:
1) I don't see the widget container and ECMAScript engine. If
we're using
HTML for display rendering, the architecture needs to include explicit
considerations for a few core
their API.
Sorry for the shouting.
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over google maps (simplest way to usefully display the data) to
see if the concept is useful.
-Paul
[1] Also, these tracks could be used to predict where you were likely to be
going, and provide an estimate of how long it would take. This functionality
would require no maps at all, or could make
What if somebody writes a free application that works but with charts that
cost money ?
You can't buy the charts. They are protected by various technical and
licensing methods in each of the products you use. The companies can't take
the risk of an open source software product revealing and
a ported GUI, which may or may
not be possible to integrate well with the rest of the device. We'll see...
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I agree that while this is unlikely, it's the best option for all involved.
You would need a software company to write that binary library though...
which would probably not be a particularly profitable enterprise.
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of making international calls via from your cell cheap and easy.
Paul
p.s. Ignore the guy who has no imagination... most things are possible with
a little thought.
On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an itch that I would like to explain to you and give an idea of how
,
including downloading it directly to the phone, or email-like playback. I
imagine that in the future, someone will provide all this functionality
bundled together as a service you can just subscribe to.
Paul
On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah with such a closed minded
If someone wants to repurpose the neo
hardware, check out what the guys at
http://www.environmental-studies.de/products/pet-tracking/pet-tracking.h
tml are doing. They're sold out for now, but they might be worth talking
to to see if they want to try and start from a base Neo and just add
some
, open email, open calendar, etc).
It doesnt add more security compared to a scribbled login pattern. And
it doesnt require a fingerprint reader.
Paul
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short drags, really.
Agreed treating it as vectors rather than as an absolute position makes
it much more flexible.
Paul M
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There are no innocent bystanders,
what were they doing there in the first place?
William S. Burroughs
something useful in 160 chars is hard. It's better to design
things beforehand, so you can just send simple commands with arguments.
I wonder if you can send SMSes on the Neo without the user noticing
anything, or wether things like the backlight will be turned on (by the
closed off chip hardware).
Paul
email, or target website address within
the phone. I see no advantage to a centrallly run repository. (and I do
see disadvantages of such privacy stores.
Paul
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to disk, and can be
safely intercepted.
And that's all provided your onetime pad is truly random, which it won't be,
and that people won't accidentally use the same page twice.
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote:
Also, most data plans specifically prohibit VoIP usage
and may even prevent it technically.
AFAIK, only T-Mobile did that, and they removed that clause a few months ago.
Paul
try and
do encapsulation over port 443.
But yes, guaranteed in-order delivery of telco networks is really not a very
nice basis to run UDP (or TCP) over. Guess the telco world still believes
in the OSI model :(
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