But this
>> fix is in no way "official".
>> Why is "official" so important? Simple: If you start reworking
>> units, you'll always fry some. Also if a fix is not thoroughly
>> tested, you'll maybe damage another section while fixing the
>>
If you start reworking
> units, you'll always fry some. Also if a fix is not thoroughly
> tested, you'll maybe damage another section while fixing the
> reported problem. To make sure that this won't happen is the
> job of the manufacturer. Usually they have some "qua
Helge Hafting ha scritto:
> As for the buzz, it depends on how bad it is. If the other end can't
> hear you properly then it is a defect. If they get some background noise
> that don't prevent the use as a phone, then it merely is a phone of
> low but useable quality.
>
> Helge Hafting
>
T
Helge Hafting wrote:
> Mike (mwester) wrote:
> [...]
>> Good email, and good questions. But apparently, the only answer is
>> total silence from Openmoko and the resellers.
>>
>> The term here would be "stone-walling".
>>
>> So, Openmoko -- any answers? Or nothing but continued silence? Can you
Mike (mwester) wrote:
[...]
> Good email, and good questions. But apparently, the only answer is
> total silence from Openmoko and the resellers.
>
> The term here would be "stone-walling".
>
> So, Openmoko -- any answers? Or nothing but continued silence? Can you
> at least tell us why you ha
please! not again.
this has been told so many times, we all know it by heart!
just today jörg reisenweber confirmed, that in his opinion no further
etsts are necessary -- but he also said that he's not longer in a position
to make that kind of decision official.
since iirc the resellers (at le
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
> In USA it's totally legal.
> In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
> other EU countries.
>
> All of the
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
> In USA it's totally legal.
> In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
> other EU countries.
>
> All of the
The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
In USA it's totally legal.
In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
other EU countries.
All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like
buying used
more thinking that warranty at Openmoko is a do-it-yourself
concept... While I am not a lawyer I would think a do-it-yourself warranty
is no
warranty, and we are meant to have one... This is not just ranting.
Legally, I would say Openmoko would be troubled if
some consumer association started a
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situation is similar. OpenMoko sells GTA02 as a GSM phone. But I
read mailing list. I study wiki. I know that the phone has some important
issues. But I still love the phone and the idea despite of the fact of
issues.
But I also would like to have replacement parts shop :)
Vince M. Clark wrote:
>
tokenwizard wrote:
> Ok, well as soon as I have time to deal with it I'll have to try and
> Frankenstein some type of power cable contraption to get this thing booted
> to the point the USB charge can kick in. Seems a little premature for such a
> function to kick in when the battery is only sligh
I would expect OM to warranty hardware defects. A DIY fix is acceptable as long
as it doesn't require special tools or create potential to do more damage. I
would much rather have OM ship me a replacement part than have to send the
phone back.
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ions".
>> I want this project to grow.
>> Do you imagine what would happen if everyone had warranty and discovered gps
>> fix issue? Openmoko would broke on repairs (more on shipping costs).
>> But when it will be in a mature stage I thing we will need a warranty of
>
Leonti wrote:
> In my opinion having only DOA right now is a good thing.
> Right now Freerunner is a phone for developers and they should accept the
> fact that it can have some "imperfections".
> I want this project to grow.
> Do you imagine what would happen if
gine what would happen if everyone had warranty and discovered gps
> fix issue? Openmoko would broke on repairs (more on shipping costs).
> But when it will be in a mature stage I thing we will need a warranty of
> some kind.
I partially agree, but IMHO OM should at least offer parts
In my opinion having only DOA right now is a good thing.
Right now Freerunner is a phone for developers and they should accept the
fact that it can have some "imperfections".
I want this project to grow.
Do you imagine what would happen if everyone had warranty and discovered gps
Yeah, I know. I was hoping I'd get a response about the policy
they're working on. Is it a proper warranty? An extended one (e.g.
pay extra for a warranty)? Or just a declaration of what constitutes
a defect that OM will repair?
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Steven Kury
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OM said that they were deciding on something beyond DOA.
>
> Also, Koolu doesn't offer a warranty (just the same 14/28 DOA
> warranty), and they're the only place you can get a FR in north
> am
OM said that they were deciding on something beyond DOA.
Also, Koolu doesn't offer a warranty (just the same 14/28 DOA
warranty), and they're the only place you can get a FR in north
america, so there's no help there.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Francesco Cat
<[EMAIL
Warranty depends only from the distributor.
Phone buyed from the openmoko store only have the DOA warranty (14 days).
Please if you want to know more things search the mailing list (EG:
what DOA means).
2008/8/27 Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Any sort of warranty?
> A purchasa
Any sort of warranty?
A purchasable extended warranty?
Spare parts prices?
Anything?
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>>>>> if you send back a phone and it works fine, who pays for shipping?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now in the US at retail you can return something if the sky is blue.
>>>>> We can't work that way and
hone.
>>>>
>>>> In the end, as micheal will tell you, I work every case. So, If you have
>>>> a problem, email me or micheal. tell us that you tried the fixes we
>>>> suggested. And we will work from there.
>>>>
>>>>
ng irons ... I'm
hoping that at some point the "squeaky wheel" cliche will work itself
out and we'll get an answer.
The boxes the Freerunners came in gave no information about warranty,
we
need to hear from Openmoko about what exactly the warranty does cover?
My understanding of th
fixes we
>>> suggested. And we will work from there.
>>>
>>> Michael Shiloh wrote:
>>>> ian douglas wrote:
>>>>> Sean/Michael/Community:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been asked several times, especially regarding the GPS/SD
x27;s been asked several times, especially regarding the GPS/SD "fixes"
>>>> and people ordering pico-farad capacitors and soldering irons ... I'm
>>>> hoping that at some point the "squeaky wheel" cliche will work itself
>>>> out and we&#
micheal will tell you, I work every case. So, If you
>>> have a problem, email me or micheal. tell us that you tried the fixes
>>> we suggested. And we will work from there.
>>>
>>> Michael Shiloh wrote:
>>>> ian douglas wrote:
>>>>&g
ian douglas wrote:
>>>> Sean/Michael/Community:
>>>>
>>>> It's been asked several times, especially regarding the GPS/SD "fixes"
>>>> and people ordering pico-farad capacitors and soldering irons ... I'm
>>>> hoping t
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 18:43 -0700, tokenwizard wrote:
> I have one for you...
> I have been "using" my freerunner for about three weeks now. I ordered it
...
> and the Power/Aux and Aux/Power combos. I've tried these thing both with and
> without the AC adapter attached and after pulling the batter
ked several times, especially regarding the GPS/SD "fixes"
>>> and people ordering pico-farad capacitors and soldering irons ... I'm
>>> hoping that at some point the "squeaky wheel" cliche will work itself
>>> out and we'll get an answe
dont tempt me
Michele Renda wrote:
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> It will be very very nice _alpha_ release :)
>
> Gilles Casse wrote:
>
>> So why not a next _alpha_ release on 2008.09.10 at 11:12:13 :-)
>>
>> Gilles
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ering pico-farad capacitors and soldering irons ... I'm
>> hoping that at some point the "squeaky wheel" cliche will work itself
>> out and we'll get an answer.
>>
>> The boxes the Freerunners came in gave no information about warranty, we
>> n
arne anka, 2008-08-14 14:24:58 +0200 :
>> I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because
>> I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it,
>> either).
>
> yeah! that's the spirit!
> you don't have by chance a blog or so where you jot down your experien
> I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because
> I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it,
> either).
yeah! that's the spirit!
you don't have by chance a blog or so where you jot down your experiences
with debian on fr? i think, i am going to
Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 22:47:28 +0200 :
>> Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages
>> about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I
>> had a build in progress. Most of that half-
> Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more
> hand-holding does a developer need?
that's only part of the story!
the stuff mokomakefile gets you is already prepared to be build with
bitbake&cie -- which does not mean that everything builds at all (frinst
vlc fails complete
Feydreva wrote:
> Does Mokomakefile can build a 2008.8 more recent than the one release on
> August 08 of 2008 ?
> I setup the Makefile for
> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.testing
> and run
> make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image
> Will I have the "fake" asu, like the one on the daily buildhost ? or
Does Mokomakefile can build a 2008.8 more recent than the one release on
August 08 of 2008 ?
I setup the Makefile for
OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.testing
and run
make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image
Will I have the "fake" asu, like the one on the daily buildhost ? or will I
have a 2008.8/ASU ?
if
> Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages
> about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had
> a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for
> stuff to download
The MokoMakefile is great. I've had it working for months. But I
still don't know how I would contribute to OM. There's a wiki page
about using the MokoMakefile to edit the existing packages. But I
don't think that addresses actually contributing said changes back to
OM. Maybe I'm just missing
Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 14:42:23 +0200 :
>> Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're
>> ready, to let community work on them as well.
>
> That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them
> concurrently, but there is so much cruft in dealing with the build
> environm
>>
>> Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09
>> just for the fun
>> of it.
>
> Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're ready,
> to let community work on them as well.
That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them
concurrently, but th
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Gilles Casse wrote:
> So why not a next _alpha_ release on 2008.09.10 at 11:12:13 :-)
>
> Gilles
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2008/8/13 Gilles Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Le mer 13/08/08 07:51, "Olivier Berger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
> >
> > Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 just for
> > the fun of it.
> >
>
> It depends on expectations, all respectable; some people are also
>
Le mer 13/08/08 07:51, "Olivier Berger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
>
> Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 just for
> the fun of it.
>
It depends on expectations, all respectable; some people are also interested in
providing feedback for alpha releases.
And it is goo
On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Olivier Berger wrote:
> "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Then try 2008.9 when it comes
>>
>
> Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09
> just for the fun
> of it.
Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're ready,
"steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Then try 2008.9 when it comes
>
First time I happen to meet an announcement for the next release, it
seems.
Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 just for the fun
of it.
Jut my 2 cents.
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warranty on the Freerunner?
> Anyway, I'm done complaining. Anyone want to buy a new Freemoko?
> I'll sell
> it for $350 with free shipping to anywhere in the US :)
my advice is: don't be too quick to get off the train, which is well and
truly under way, whatever the
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Hi Michele
this law is valid in Italy / EU union.
For this reason if you buy your FR from a reseller, as for example
Pulster, you receive 2 years warranty.
But if you buy from U.S. like from the OM shop, you must to follow US
laws about warranty
According to Italian/European Union law:
1) the customer can return the package within 14 days from the receipt of the
good bought on-line. No matter if it's perfectly working or if it is DOA. This
is not yet a warranty, it applies to goods that were bought by corrispondence
or on-line
Hi ian:
>
> Define "bad"...
>
> It's a little vague -- does 'bad' simply mean DOA like was announced by
> Steve several months ago regarding the 14-day/28-day DOA warranty, or
> does 'bad' mean "phones that turn on but don't ha
Andy Green wrote:
> | Has anyone
> | figured out how to kick the GPS receiver into UBX mode? I would be
> | curious to see if that changes anything.
>
> It's actually documented by Ublox in here (Okular eats it)
>
> http://www.u-blox.com/c
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote:
> Yes, we don't have unified warranty policy yet, but this does not mean
> we don't take the responsibility for user get bad devices.
Define "bad"...
It's a little vague -- does 'bad' simply mean DOA like was announced by
Stev
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Lally Singh:
>
>> The warranty is also bugging me.
>>
>> Is there anywhere else I could get one? Or would OM be willing to
>> sell an extended warranty for a bit more $$?
>
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Thanks for your work Stacy.
|> About the 600sec thing, you can get the GPS chip to report 4 times a
|> second instead of once a second, maybe that can be to do with it. But
|> it is strange, noticing the he
Andy Green wrote:
> About the 600sec thing, you can get the GPS chip to report 4 times a
> second instead of once a second, maybe that can be to do with it. But
> it is strange, noticing the heavy filtering on our results I wonder if a
> lot of those samples coming so quickly were actually synthe
> Ah, but once you hit "send" you lost ownership of your thread.
>
> You can no more reclaim your thread than you can stuff feathers back
> into a torn pillow in a high wind
true, oh pharao.
but otoh it isn't the first attempt to clarify the issue and virtually
every other attempt very fast
Hi Lally Singh:
> The warranty is also bugging me.
>
> Is there anywhere else I could get one? Or would OM be willing to
> sell an extended warranty for a bit more $$?
>
Our sales and marketing both are in US working on this now, no extended
warranty yet.
> Or at least a
Hi Dimitri:
Some of information is not correct.
> The warranty is essentially non-existent.
>
Yes, we don't have unified warranty policy yet, but this does not mean
we don't take the responsibility for user get bad devices. We still
working on this, once we have consensus,
> There were a number of sites, like Engadget and a few others, that
> were
> essentially implying that the Freerunner was ready for general use (as
> opposed to the Neo1973, which was strictly a developer's phone).
>
well, if you use qtopia, with an eye on the rapid progress, you can at
least
The warranty is also bugging me.
Is there anywhere else I could get one? Or would OM be willing to
sell an extended warranty for a bit more $$?
Or at least a cheap spare parts program? I don't mind swapping out
parts if they're available at reasonable prices.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008
Jim Morris wrote:
> steve wrote:
>> The warrenty on our web shop is 14 days for DOA.
>>
>> GSM problems could be related to the age of your SIM. So we suggest
>> updated
>> any old SIMS.
>> Micheal can help.
>>
>
> Sorry I should have been clearer, I am referring to the loud buzzing on
> GSM c
steve wrote:
> The warrenty on our web shop is 14 days for DOA.
>
> GSM problems could be related to the age of your SIM. So we suggest updated
> any old SIMS.
> Micheal can help.
>
Sorry I should have been clearer, I am referring to the loud buzzing on GSM
calls, which has been
determined to
Jim Morris wrote:
> ian douglas wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> My intention was not to create a message thread for people to vent about
>> what they like or not about the Freerunner. I created the thread to get
>> an official stance from Openmoko about the state of the w
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Subject: Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?
ian douglas wrote:
> Guys,
>
> My intention was not to create a message thread for people to vent
> about what they like or n
> Anyway, I'm done complaining. Anyone want to buy a new Freemoko?
> I'll sell
> it for $350 with free shipping to anywhere in the US :)
my advice is: don't be too quick to get off the train, which is well
and truly under way, whatever the load .. having a working freerunner
that kicks ass
ian douglas wrote:
> Guys,
>
> My intention was not to create a message thread for people to vent about
> what they like or not about the Freerunner. I created the thread to get
> an official stance from Openmoko about the state of the warranty, and if
> it would cover any hardw
t about
> what they like or not about the Freerunner. I created the thread to get
> an official stance from Openmoko about the state of the warranty, and if
> it would cover any hardware fix offered by OM for the GPS/SD problems.
>
> -id
>
>
> ian douglas wrote:
>> Sean
Guys,
My intention was not to create a message thread for people to vent about
what they like or not about the Freerunner. I created the thread to get
an official stance from Openmoko about the state of the warranty, and if
it would cover any hardware fix offered by OM for the GPS/SD problems
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I'm just venting steam. I'm not entirely unhappy with the phone: just a
little frustrated, since I'm having a hard time jus
o one would
> have an excuse to complain.
>
> Sorry that its not for you yet.
>
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> I feel mislead by their marketing, which led me (and, from what I've been
> reading, many others) to think that the phone was actually ready for both
> developers AND regular folks. This, of course, is false, as it can't even
> connect to the internet *out of the box*, and requires a ridiculous d
The warranty is essentially non-existent.
It's supposedly 14 days "D.O.A.". Dead On Arrival, in its strictest
definition, means that as long as the phone boots up, that's it. It doesn't
matter if it's not really functional. As long as it boots up, it's
techn
ll work itself
> out and we'll get an answer.
>
> The boxes the Freerunners came in gave no information about warranty, we
> need to hear from Openmoko about what exactly the warranty does cover?
> My understanding of the warranty time limit is that single purchases go
answer.
The boxes the Freerunners came in gave no information about warranty, we
need to hear from Openmoko about what exactly the warranty does cover?
My understanding of the warranty time limit is that single purchases got
a 14-day "warranty", and group purchases were given a 28-day &q
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| steve schrieb:
|> Amaybe when SD I/O occurs one could use
I talked with Tony this morning he said he uploaded it
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Subject: Re: Warranty after fix
Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked
> at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that
> might be.
>
That's not a bad idea... I haven't looked into what accelerometers we have in
the F
Al Johnson schrieb:
> We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked
> at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that
> might be.
Well, if this:
http://www.invensense.com/products/idg_300.html
had three axes instead of two, it would
On Friday 01 August 2008, Vinc Duran wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not a mathematician, but I think I have sufficiently understood
> > Kalman filters and dead reckoning. A little known trick is to use
> > ordinary integration with th
Vinc Duran schrieb:
>> But... what are our chances GTA03 will have a 3D gyro?
> Could the accelerometers be substituted for a 3d gyro?
No, you need both accelerometer *and* gyro measurements for dead reckoning.
Andreas
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit :
|> opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether
|
| Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that:
|
| opkg install kern
Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit :
> opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether
Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that:
opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether
Installing kernel-module-g-ether
(2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efd
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of
| 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line.
| Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites.
Our G
Hi there!
I'm not Andy obviously, but I think I still can answer that one ;)
> Hi Andy,
>
> I'm the guy who said that.
>
> Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of
> 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line.
> Isn't that supposed to mean that it still h
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| After a reboot, it worked ok so its a false alarm - sorry!
Thanks for clearing it up.
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Andy Green wrote:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>
> | I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and
> | TangoGPS.
> | Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but
> | when I move indoors,
> | gps shows 10 satellite fixes and gives
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| One last thing, the voltage scaling and clock rate reduction patches
| aren't in the kernel you used, they should be around in tomorrow's
| packages: if you have 600 sec to spare it would be inte
After a reboot, it worked ok so its a false alarm - sorry!
BillK
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>
> | and a negative - I moved the maps in tangoGPS from /tmp to the (orig
> | f
>
> One last thing, the voltage scaling and clock rate reduction patches
> aren't in the kernel you used, they should be around in tomorrow's
> packages: if you have 600 sec to spare it would be interesting to see if
> they made any change :-)
>
> - -Andy
>
Hi Andy,
To get that kernel you referen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not a mathematician, but I think I have sufficiently understood
> Kalman filters and dead reckoning. A little known trick is to use
> ordinary integration with the strap-down equation given the
> accelerometer and g
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I did some testing today to add some more data points (or fuel on the
| fire, depending on your point of view :-)
Let's say you did nice work there enabling us to converge on an
understanding of the issue
Brian Wilson schrieb:
> See http://www.trimble.com/tms/placer450.aspx?dtID=overview
>
> They use a small gyroscope.
[...]
> If you are walking around and want a reasonable position the Kalman
> filter would probably be easier to deal with.
> Is there a mathematician in the house?
I'm not a mathe
I did some testing today to add some more data points (or fuel on the
fire, depending on your point of view :-)
What I did was run three test, one with the SD card removed, one with
the SD card installed but idle and one with the SD card being used
heavily. For each test, I ran simultaneous tes
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and
| TangoGPS.
| Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but
| when I move indoors,
| gps shows 10 satellite
> Besides the point that a small pocket-IMU would be great. To GPS jumts
> that big exist? As fas as i understand GPS it should have little jitter.
Trimble had a few GPS models out with dead reckoning. Not pocket
sized. I think they are all off the market now. I got one off Ebay a
few weeks ago b
Tilman Baumann wrote:
> Andy Green wrote:
>
>>
> Inertial navigation systems for the masses!
> Anyone here who wants to write a kalman filter?
>
> Besides the point that a small pocket-IMU would be great. To GPS jumts
> that big exist? As fas as i understand GPS it should have little jitte
This one?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf
On Thursday 31 July 2008, steve wrote:
> Do folks know wher to find the SOP for the cap fix?
>
> Tony, if you havent already, go ahead and post the SOP for the cap fix.
> It's easy enough to do
> And undo.
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