On 27/07/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Advanced kit arrived, yay!
> >
> > Batteries and uSD cards were missing, boo!
>
> Ok, now I feel stupid. Guess you get to call me a muppet after all :-}
I reckon you were just trying to cheer us
I want to order a GTA-01, but some questions still remain.
1: What is the status of various developments in the applications. The wiki
lacks enough informaiton. Is something like this list possible?
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#Write_low_level_code_and_drivers
2: To wha
to, 2007-07-26 kello 22:07 -0700, tyler laing kirjoitti:
> What I meant is, in the consumer version, will this be possible? And I
> meant "driver", not drive. I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough in my first
> question. Thanks for your time!
First of all, the first respondent was in fact incorrect. Eve
Frans Grotepass wrote:
I want to order a GTA-01, but some questions still remain.
1: What is the status of various developments in the applications. The wiki
lacks enough informaiton. Is something like this list possible?
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#Write_low_level_c
Only Tchibo - Tchibo calls are free, and only for 24 months if you buy
before 2007-08-09. To benefit from this you'd have to get two or more of
this offer and give one to everyone you phone often.
SMS are relatively expensive and I wasn't able to find anything about
data...
Ortwin
On 7/27/07, Rob
I don't have a Neo however I do have a AT&T 3G fireball card.I can
definitely confirm that this works in much much older 2g handsets (I
have a few older 2g handsets that I've traded up from over time).
The newest at&t sim that came with my last new handset 6 months ago
(cingular 8525-htc herme
On 07/27/2007 Mark Eichin wrote:
> Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Advanced kit arrived, yay!
> > >
> > > Batteries and uSD cards were missing, boo!
>
> Ok, now I feel stupid. Guess you get to call me a muppet after all
> :-}
>
> The batteries and cards were all wrapped togethe
On 7/27/07, Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There might come
> >
> > Neo1974 or even
> > Neo2007
>
> Yes. And actually, nijutsu will also tell us about the Neo1907 at some
> point :)
>
FIC vacuum cleaner? Camera? What about the Neo968? Neo1979?
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David S Gathright wrote:
Thanks for the replies, all. I guess what I was wishing for was a
'built-in' way to disable the connection (call it 'economy mode' for the
'thrift-conscious'). I can settle for a hack, though, I suppose...as long
as it's not too much of a pain (i.e. having to repeat N s
On the IRC channel sunkist has confirmed this problem too. nibbler_de said
that the sim card that at&t makes is definitely a Oberthur CS SIMphonIC 3G
and that it is comparable with 2G phones still. but how come many people who
tried this card all reported that it didn't work? I'm wondering if a
har
Salve Ortwin!
Sorry for my bad english - and missing activitiy on
this list for the examens period...
Ortwin Regel schrieb am Friday, den 27. July 2007 um 15:22h:
> Only Tchibo - Tchibo calls are free, and only for 24 months if you buy
> before 2007-08-09.
Calls to old Tchibo sims and Sims sold
I never heard about it, but it looks interesting (following the
physics-inspired/verlet integration ramble some months ago on this
very list)
http://www.mdk.org.pl/articles/2007/04/23/chapter-1-in-which-we-meet-graff
Be sure to check out this one (scrolling list with inertia scrolling)
http://file
On 7/27/07, Frans Grotepass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I want to order a GTA-01, but some questions still remain.
>
> 1: What is the status of various developments in the applications. The
> wiki
> lacks enough informaiton. Is something like this list possible?
GTA01 is an early stage devs ve
Salve,
sorry that this is only a tip for OpenMoko people
in Germany - there is a quite interesting
offer since today:
Prepaid SIM for 5 Euro with free calls to other
SIMs (users) of this special sold offer for the
next 24 month. I haven't found a limitation of
minutes/month.
http://www.tchibo.
On Friday 27 July 2007 13:25:26 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> >>> OpenMoko-0.5 or whatever scheme is already in place.
> >>
> >> -2007 and -2008 so far. We might have 200x.y at some point.
>
> Hm. I think using year-names is not a good choice for software
> versions (mainly talking about stabl
Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> I don't think Ubuntu did very badly with (Y)Y.MM release naming. Except for
> the Dapper slippage maybe, but that was warranted by any means... Plus you
> can use future dates for unstable (right now the next Ubuntu release is
> 7.10
I guess one t
Frans Grotepass wrote:
> I want to order a GTA-01, but some questions still remain.
>
> 1: What is the status of various developments in the applications. The wiki
> lacks enough informaiton. Is something like this list possible?
>
> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#Write_lo
On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Florent THIERY wrote:
http://files.mdk.am/demos/graff-demo-3.avi
nice demo .. a lot of this can be done through cairographics too,
incidentally, and i rather like cairo's progress on the pocket,
lately, anyway ..
exciting times to be building apps for linux
Harald Welte skrev:
Hi!
Since we're now working on the "phase 2 neo", i.e. what is now known
officially as "Neo1973 GTA02", I'd like to address one issue:
For many information in the public wiki, it is not clear whether it is
1) general information about the openmoko 2007 software
1b) informat
Le vendredi 27 juillet 2007 à 18:24 +0800, Harald Welte a écrit :
> > So, we will have
> >
> > Neo1973-1.0 = "GTA01"
> > Neo1973-2.0 = "GTA02"
>
> well, please don't add numbers like 1.0/2.0, since that would just lead
> to further confusion. I really think it makes sense to use one naming
> sche
Am 26.07.2007 um 17:53 schrieb Harald Welte:
Hi!
Since we're now working on the "phase 2 neo", i.e. what is now known
officially as "Neo1973 GTA02", I'd like to address one issue:
For many information in the public wiki, it is not clear whether it is
1) general information about the openmoko
Hi Nikolaus,
thanks for your feedback.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:02:26PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Well, I think we will have to separate
>
> a) different hardware variants (and subvariants) of the Neo
yes.
> b) different software variants (and subvariants) of OpenMoko
yes.
>
OpenMoko-0.5 or whatever scheme is already in place.
-2007 and -2008 so far. We might have 200x.y at some point.
Hm. I think using year-names is not a good choice for software
versions (mainly talking about stable releases).
It psychologically forces you to do one major release every year.
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 13:59 +0100, Ian Stirling wrote:
> Best guesses from the uninformed are that >1000 orders have been made
> for phones. (based on P1_Orders, ...)
> And <1000 phones have been made.
>
> Have the next batch been ordered?
> If so, approximately when are they due?
..and Have any
Sudharshan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> ..and Have anyone who had ordered their devices late (..as in their
> order doesn't fall in the first 1000) been billed yet. FYI our rt# was
> 3054. I am aware of the fact that the ticket number is not
2615 and nothing yet. But the first batch was split
Harrison Metzger wrote:
I'm not actually sure what number you need. On the (what I would call
front side) side with NO contacts there is the iccid number which is
long. On the back (side with contacts) their are 2 numbers: 71324 and
4021 (please don't clone my phone, lol). So we don't play emai
On 27 Jul 2007, at 18:19, Eric Johnson wrote:
It'll be a bit of a blow if the phone won't work with the largest
US GSM operators SIM cards!
But it's not a finished product and it's good that this issue has
been identified now. It was always going to be the time when these
things get d
Harrison Metzger writes:
>Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
>(the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
>ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it does 2g, I would
>like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Would it be possible to get some blueprints of the device? I don't need
> > artist drawing, but it would be really really helpful to get the
blueprints
> > for the case (inside and outside) as soon as possible.
>
> There are reasonably high res pictures on the wi
> In the meantime, here's what I'm finding works:
Excellent list. Note that this varies build-to-build, or at least has
in the last few days.
> I tried it out with my sim card, then moved it back to my old phone. I
Same here - but after that (being in the US) I just dropped $10 cash
at a T-mob
Chalk another one up for CME ERROR due to the cingular/att 'fireball' 3g
sim card..
However, it is interesting to note, that I am getting CME ERROR 13 (sim
failure), rather than CME ERROR 10 (sim not inserted).
Just got my neo, so still trying..
:)
-Scott
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Harrison Me
Hello All,
I just got my Neo. Upgraded the kernel and rootfs and shortly I was ssh'ing
in to a phone !!
Now on to making a call :-)
Enjoy!
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On 7/27/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > 3: How long does the device run on a battery?
>
> On an 850mAh nokia battery... maybe 3 hours mostly idle (not sure, I
> came back to find it dead.) Haven't timed it with the 1200mAh "real"
> battery, but basically, "power management isn
We need video, or it didn't happing.
Just kidding, though seriously, I want to see more video online of the
NEO1973 and open moko in action.
On 7/27/07, Pranav Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I just got my Neo. Upgraded the kernel and rootfs and shortly I was
> ssh'ing in to a
ssh is awesome, but in the future when your on the go it would be
handy to have all the commands (shell commands, common keywords and
programs in path) to be bindable to voice commands. Like voice
dialing, but for a shell. I know full blown speech recognition is
unlikely, but just commands seems
On 7/27/07, John Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> GPS: CLI drivers/application got nuked in my initial flash (I put a note
> of a way you can actually back this up before flashing on the
> wiki--previously the instructions for backing it up required the device
> to be running, but you couldn'
> I seem to have wiped out my GPS drivers and applications in my initial flash
> also. Had to - I didn't know of a way to back up before doing so.
Same here - though given that the kernel couldn't find init, I'm not
actually convinced that they *were* on the installed rootfs...
Of course, I'd r
On Friday 27 July 2007, Nelson Castillo wrote:
> On 7/27/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On an 850mAh nokia battery... maybe 3 hours mostly idle (not sure, I
> > came back to find it dead.) Haven't timed it with the 1200mAh "real"
> > battery, but basically, "power management isn't
Nelson Castillo wrote:
On 7/27/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(cut)
3: How long does the device run on a battery?
On an 850mAh nokia battery... maybe 3 hours mostly idle (not sure, I
came back to find it dead.) Haven't timed it with the 1200mAh "real"
battery, but basically, "pow
Mark Eichin wrote:
I seem to have wiped out my GPS drivers and applications in my initial flash
also. Had to - I didn't know of a way to back up before doing so.
Same here - though given that the kernel couldn't find init, I'm not
actually convinced that they *were* on the installed rootfs...
On 7/27/07, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ssh is awesome, but in the future when your on the go it would be
> handy to have all the commands (shell commands, common keywords and
> programs in path) to be bindable to voice commands. Like voice
> dialing, but for a shell. I know full blown sp
If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first, and
then international developers would get their phones..
I have received three e-mails from openmoko: "AutoReply: OpenMoko direct
order", "Your OpenMoko direct order" (which I replyed to YES_I_DO), and
"Payment received:
I agree. The neo should work with the largest US provider. I would be more
than happy to mail my sim card to TW or to someplace where someone who knows
more about the technology than me can look at it (as long as I can get it
back lol). It would be nice to see the raw communication (if any) between
I am in the same situation.
Ortwin
On 7/27/07, Asbjørn Sannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first, and
> then international developers would get their phones..
>
> I have received three e-mails from openmoko: "AutoReply: OpenMoko dir
Hi.
We are starting a project and we will use a
Neo GTA01 ( We are also waiting for it to ship :) ).
We will need at least two more, but we need to try
one first.
We need to:
* Make calls to send arbitrary data (We'd like to
use the GSM for data)
* Record voice messages on the phone and send th
I have a simple question related to 3G. Why doesn't the neo support
3G? I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
ever going back to Edge speeds. And sence this phone has a 640x480
screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network.
I would really lo
Has anyone been able to get the emulator working under gentoo Linux?
When I try to configure it before making it, it fails on SDL. I
deffinately have SDL installed on my system.
Also, has anyone made an overlay or at least an ebuild for it?
Thanks for any help.
_
> If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first, and
> then international developers would get their phones..
Well, some U.S. phones were shipped firstthis doesn't seem to apply
to my #1881.
>
> I have received three e-mails from openmoko: "AutoReply: OpenMoko direct
> o
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edge speeds? *lol* The GTA01 at least has pure classic GPRS.
Andreas
Xamindar wrote:
> I have a simple question related to 3G. Why doesn't the neo support
> 3G? I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
> ever going back to
On 7/27/07, Xamindar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone been able to get the emulator working under gentoo Linux?
> When I try to configure it before making it, it fails on SDL. I
> deffinately have SDL installed on my system.
Also the developer version?
I have the "libsdl1.2-dev" package in
I'm in a similar situation, only I'm in Canada, not the US, and I
ordered the non-advanced kit. But I also received the payment received
email, but no shipping email as of yet.
On 7/27/07, Jon Radel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first
> Also the developer version?
> I have the "libsdl1.2-dev" package in my Debian sid system.
And I forgot to say that I built the emulator with this library.
I hadn't it before I noticed it was missing.
Regards,
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Nelson Castillo wrote:
> Hi.
>
> We are starting a project and we will use a
> Neo GTA01 ( We are also waiting for it to ship :) ).
> We will need at least two more, but we need to try
> one first.
>
> We need to:
>
> * Make calls to send arbitrar
On Friday 27 July 2007 16:14:49 Asbjørn Sannes wrote:
> If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first, and
> then international developers would get their phones..
>
> I have received three e-mails from openmoko: "AutoReply: OpenMoko direct
> order", "Your OpenMoko direct order
On 7/27/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > * Will we be able to use the GSM directly? I am new to
> > this, and I'd like to know if we can make a GSM call
> > (to other Neo) and send arbitrary data.
>
> Yes and no. You cannot make a Voice
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Nelson Castillo wrote:
> On 7/27/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> * Will we be able to use the GSM directly? I am new to
>>> this, and I'd like to know if we can make a GSM call
>>> (to
On 27 Jul 2007, at 23:56, Nelson Castillo wrote:
We didn't know about CSD. Good. We are not trying to avoid any
cost. We
just care about the latency of the GPRS link which renders it
rather unusable,
at least in our country.
As a mental model, you can think of the Neo as an Linux/ARM b
Hi,
There is also pocketsphinx, mentioned in this thread:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003790.html
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Whao, I didn't know that. I assumed it at least had edge. That
totally sucks if it is only has GPRS. What is going on with new phones
these days? Seems like they are going backwards in speeds, i-phone and
now this.
HSDPA support? Why not? Is it licensing issues?
Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
On 28 Jul 2007, at 00:46, Xamindar wrote:
Whao, I didn't know that. I assumed it at least had edge. That
totally sucks if it is only has GPRS. What is going on with new
phones these days? Seems like they are going backwards in speeds,
i-phone and now this.
HSDPA support? Why not? Is
# ls /usr/lib64/libSDL*
/usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL.la
/usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.0.7 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.so
/usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.1 /usr/lib64/libSDLmain.a
/usr/lib64/libSDL_net.a /usr/lib64/libSDL.so
/usr/lib64/libSDL.a
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 01:25:26PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
OpenMoko-0.5 or whatever scheme is already in place.
>>>
>>> -2007 and -2008 so far. We might have 200x.y at some point.
>
> Hm. I think using year-names is not a good choice for software versions
> (mainly talking abo
> Actually, I had used a tool called cvoicecontrol sometime back for exactly
> that, running scripts or cmds using voice. It wasnt very powerful in terms
> of how well it could recognize, but was functional enough.
>
> http://www.kiecza.net/daniel/linux/
Unfortunately, cvoice control doesn't seem
Yay, my basic Neo1973 arrived today. It looks quite cool smaller than I
expected and lightweight.
But I think I'm about to fail my geek status - can't figure out how to insert
the microSD card that came with it, without full disassembly of the unit. I,
uh, don't own a Torx toolset and didn't ord
Hello to one and all, and allow me to present a few ideas for the
Neo1973/Openmoko combination that will drive sales and support.Simply put, use
the phone number as an unique identifier for the phone,that can be broadcast
via wifi or bluetooth, and then, when you give someone your phone-number,
get on irc :)
no, you don't need to open it up to get the card in. you gently slide
the metal shield to unlock it
On 7/27/07, Jeff Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yay, my basic Neo1973 arrived today. It looks quite cool smaller than I
> expected and lightweight.
>
> But I think I'm about to fa
Esben
> Yeah, I know PulseAudio, but that doesn't help interconnecting modules
> in a real time fashion.
tell us the big picture for what you want to do
brad
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Jeff Rush wrote:
> But I think I'm about to fail my geek status - can't figure out how to
> insert the microSD card that came with it, without full disassembly of the
> unit.
Just slide the SIM card holder in the direction marked OPEN, and then hinge it
out of the way, then
On 07/28/2007 Asbjørn Sannes wrote:
> If I understood correctly orders within the U.S. was shipped first,
> and then international developers would get their phones..
>
> I have received three e-mails from openmoko: "AutoReply: OpenMoko
> direct order", "Your OpenMoko direct order" (which I repl
I got my phone, and I'm a happy guy!
I learned one thing that might save someone else some time. I
initially tried to do the dfu-util downloads of the kernel and
rootfs from linux running via VMWare on a Windoze host. Although
dfu-util definately could talk to the neo, it could not succe
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