Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:47:37 -0800 (PST)
c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I've tried both a Nokia BH-604 and a SonyEricsson HBH-PV700, both
  work for outgoing audio but not incoming. 

   There's been some discussion about the voice-recording.state on the
 ML. Seems like the DAI mode 1 has implementation problems. Maybe we
 need to try voip-headset.state. Just a thought - haven't gotten
 around to doing that yet.

Tried that, but that one with BH-604 is simply quiet in both ends.

I also saw the DAI discussion, but I don't understand the issue well
enough to know what to do. It feels like we are very close but not
quite there yet.

// Simon

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:47:37 -0800 (PST)
| c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:
|
| I've tried both a Nokia BH-604 and a SonyEricsson HBH-PV700, both
| work for outgoing audio but not incoming.
|   There's been some discussion about the voice-recording.state on the
| ML. Seems like the DAI mode 1 has implementation problems. Maybe we
| need to try voip-headset.state. Just a thought - haven't gotten
| around to doing that yet.
|
| Tried that, but that one with BH-604 is simply quiet in both ends.
|
| I also saw the DAI discussion, but I don't understand the issue well
| enough to know what to do. It feels like we are very close but not
| quite there yet.

As I understand it, the problem with CPU digital audio on BT is that
there is no routing path in the WM8753 hardware between the two digital
audio interfaces (CPU and BT).  As in literally it's not there in the chip.

Maybe there's some way to meddle it through the ADC and DAC but other
than that it doesn't work IIUI.

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Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-22 Thread Helge Hafting



Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 
 It is already possible to set up a free server for almanac data, as 
 saving and loading almanac data works well and speed up TTFF some.
 
 But where do we get this almanac data? Can we redistribute what
 u-box.com sends us?
 

Almanac data is valid for a couple of months, so normally you use the
almanac that was auto-saved last time you used your gps.

If someone set up a free server, then we can also upload almanac data there,
and download it to speed up TTFF in cases where the gps hasn't been used for
2 months (or a newly flashed image overwrote the locally saved almanac).

Of course, a locally saved almanac will usually do the trick, so such a
service becomes more interesting when the epheremis can be saved as well.
(once the bugs in ephemeris uploading gets fixed - currently this can fail
rather badly, yielding no fix at all) Ephemeris data is only valid for 30min
or so. Saving the ephemeris locally helps if your gps app crash and gets
restarted, but it won't help you the following day. A server could help
though.


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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:54:58 +0800
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:

 | I also saw the DAI discussion, but I don't understand the issue well
 | enough to know what to do. It feels like we are very close but not
 | quite there yet.
 
 As I understand it, the problem with CPU digital audio on BT is that
 there is no routing path in the WM8753 hardware between the two
 digital audio interfaces (CPU and BT).  As in literally it's not
 there in the chip.
 
 Maybe there's some way to meddle it through the ADC and DAC but other
 than that it doesn't work IIUI.

Hmm... What does this mean then? Is this to say that streaming voice
from the GSM directly to BT isn't possible as described on

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem

? I'm not actually sure what I'm really using, but I suppose that would
be done through the CPU anyway? What could be the reason that outgoing
audio works but not incoming?


IIUI - If I understand it? I'm too old for internet vernacular :-)

// Simon

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Hmm... What does this mean then? Is this to say that streaming voice
| from the GSM directly to BT isn't possible as described on
|
|   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem
|
| ? I'm not actually sure what I'm really using, but I suppose that would
| be done through the CPU anyway? What could be the reason that outgoing
| audio works but not incoming?

No you can do it with the stuff coming from the analogue paths / GSM.
What you can't do, at least, not by routing the digital sides together
anyway, is like bluetooth headphones (which are being driven by digital
audio bus from Wolfson) to listen to MP3 coming out of CPU on a digital
audio bus to Wolfson.

If you're just trying to do the phone call part through GSM headset,
routing the analogue stuff hooked to the GSM chip to the digital
interface for bluetooth, that has worked OK in the past.

| IIUI - If I understand it? I'm too old for internet vernacular :-)

Yes :-)

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes:
 As I understand it, the problem with CPU digital audio on BT is that
 there is no routing path in the WM8753 hardware between the two digital
 audio interfaces (CPU and BT).  As in literally it's not there in
 the chip.

Routing audio between SoC and Bluetooth should be possible through HCI
(that is, BT is connected via USB to SoC). The chips shipped in the
Freerunners have default eeprom setting (they call it ps keys) to route
SCO audio (i think that doesn't affect A2DP) over PCM interface. This
setting can be changed but after that one has to issue a special
command every time he wants to route the next SCO communication over
PCM.

Unfortunately, the BT earpiece i have here for testing works only with
laptop for now (with the same bluez), with FR i hear only ambient noice.

 Maybe there's some way to meddle it through the ADC and DAC but other
 than that it doesn't work IIUI.

Doesn't seem it can be possible on Freerunner because both DAIs are
timed fully independently.

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Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
Hi List


I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
(https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )

After a mail from c_c
(http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.

So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
transfer files between PC and Neo.


What do you think? Is such an application needed?


Regards
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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes:
| As I understand it, the problem with CPU digital audio on BT is that
| there is no routing path in the WM8753 hardware between the two digital
| audio interfaces (CPU and BT).  As in literally it's not there in
| the chip.
|
| Routing audio between SoC and Bluetooth should be possible through HCI
| (that is, BT is connected via USB to SoC). The chips shipped in the
| Freerunners have default eeprom setting (they call it ps keys) to route
| SCO audio (i think that doesn't affect A2DP) over PCM interface. This
| setting can be changed but after that one has to issue a special
| command every time he wants to route the next SCO communication over
| PCM.

That sounds like a great workaround, although unless it exposes some
digital audio device class entity it sounds like work to stitch it
together into something you can pipe audio into.

| Unfortunately, the BT earpiece i have here for testing works only with
| laptop for now (with the same bluez), with FR i hear only ambient noice.
|
| Maybe there's some way to meddle it through the ADC and DAC but other
| than that it doesn't work IIUI.
|
| Doesn't seem it can be possible on Freerunner because both DAIs are
| timed fully independently.

Keeping it all digital on USB would be a superior solution.  You can get
these EDR stereo headsets now it would be a nice feature.

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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-02-22 Thread Ali
Very nice! Ever since I saw it on mwester's page i've been wanting to do
this, but ran into an error and haven't had know how/time to
investigate. I love the pim features of qt extended but the lack of
packages make it quite boring. Is it possible to run an xserver
simultaneously so I can run other applications than qt ones? I would
really appreciate a jffs2 image of the rootfs. Mwester has stuff at
http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#qtx_on_fso but I think it's somewhat old
now and it didn't work when I last tried it.



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Re: HELP: sim card not registering...

2009-02-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:19:15AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current one
  will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use
  the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering.
  
  I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly:
  
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
  
  Where this not enough?
  
  Where this not correct even though it worked?
  
  Please help...
 
 Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the
 SIM card is borked. Ah well...

And, BTW, I had a belgian Base Prepaid which didn't work on the
Freerunner but did on that same Nokia, and with moko10 firmware now
works on the Freerunner a well.

Rui

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Carl Lobo
I had found a presentation titled WAN0152 that spoke about conversion
between i2s and PCM which is my guess for getting the audio from CPU
to the BT chip using the wolfson chip.

http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WAN0152.pdf

I really can't boast about knowing too much about this, but it could
be what we need.

Has anyone managed to get a HSP headset working even with GSM?

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(SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Paul

My Freerunner, using U-boot, is happily running the latest SHR-Lite.
And it is really good, I think! Nice, works with the phone quite well, 
and responds really snappy.

Me happy again.
Thanks for all the help!

Paul

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[2008.testing] sshfs

2009-02-22 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
Mounting my FR from my Ubuntu Intrepid box via sshfs is really useful,
but sometimes, I cannot unmount it, getting:

$ make moko-
fusermount -u /home/jeff/OM/moko
umount: /home/jeff/OM/moko: device is busy.
(In some cases useful info about processes that use
 the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
make: [moko-] Error 1 (ignored)
rmdir /home/jeff/OM/moko
rmdir: failed to remove `/home/jeff/OM/moko': Device or resource busy
make: *** [moko-] Error 1

How can get it to unmount cleanly?

Further - how would I go about doing the mount to say /media/moko
automatically on plugging it in?

Regards

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Marcel
Am Sunday 22 February 2009 10:54:01 schrieb Andreas Willich:
 Hi List


 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )

 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.

 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.


 What do you think? Is such an application needed?

I like the idea. Doing setup on the Neo is quite painful from time to time, 
especially due to the lack of a hardware quertz keyboard.

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread ßingen
El Domingo 22 Febrero 2009, Andreas Willich escribió:
 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )

 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.

 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.


 What do you think? Is such an application needed?

For sure. I think it would be great to have such an application.
About the sync? Which distributions would it be compatible with? Anb by the pc 
side, which applications would be possible to sync with? Would kontact be one 
of them?

Thanks,

   ßingen.


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Re: [2008.testing] sshfs

2009-02-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:18:21 +0100, Jeffrey Ratcliffe  
jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mounting my FR from my Ubuntu Intrepid box via sshfs is really useful,
 but sometimes, I cannot unmount it, getting:

 $ make moko-
 fusermount -u /home/jeff/OM/moko
 umount: /home/jeff/OM/moko: device is busy.
 (In some cases useful info about processes that use
  the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
 make: [moko-] Error 1 (ignored)
 rmdir /home/jeff/OM/moko
 rmdir: failed to remove `/home/jeff/OM/moko': Device or resource busy
 make: *** [moko-] Error 1

 How can get it to unmount cleanly?

This usually happens because a process keeps a file or directory under the  
mount point open. One particularly frequent case is when the current  
working directory of some process is under the mount point. As the error  
message suggests, you can use lsof to identify the offending process.

 Further - how would I go about doing the mount to say /media/moko
 automatically on plugging it in?

There are many automount solutions for linux, from kernel modules to fuse  
filesystems.

You probably don't want to mount it on plugging in, but rather on access  
to the mount point.


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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-22 Thread Sebastian Ohl
Hi,

i just updated the rightclick patch to the newest tslib debian package.
for me it works just fine. i also fixed the initialization of the
pointer device(thanks to Daniel) so it should also work with other
windowmanagers than xfce (at least fluxbox works now). 

the new packages can be downloaded from
http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1
+fso1_armel.deb

to get it working just follow the instructions under
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#With_fbdev_driver_from_xserver-xorg
and don't forget to change your device specification.

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OpenCellID and government list of towers

2009-02-22 Thread Thomas Landspurg
   This list are not helpfull, as they do not contains the callid, just the
position of the tower. They could be used to obtain a better precision of a
cell put this is not the case on opencellid.
  All cells informations at OpenCellID are obtanined from publicly available
data on your phone, and not based on commercial database. But of course, I
am not a legal expert, but I think that there is no legal issue here.


2009/2/21 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net

 Olivier Migeot wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
  timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 
  There are many creative commons licenses, some are permit commercial
  use, some don't.
 
  If you go one click further, you'd discover that the said Creative
  Commons licence chosed by OpenCellID is :
  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
 
  So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing
  about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've
  been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made
  script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to.

 Please please forgive me if I'm wrong. I put my hand up and say I am not
 an expert in this area and COULD BE WRONG.

 opencellid has A LOT of data for the UK. In fact it wouldn't surprise me
 if this was all the towers.

 Due to a load of people being scared of phone masts and radiation etc,
 the uk body in charge of radio stuff etc. OFCOM, made available on this
 website:
 http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/
 pretty much all the locations of all the cell towers...

 I'm not sure how that information is licenced.. I have seen discussions
 about this before I think but I can't remember where... it could have
 been OSM related.

 Obviously the issue would be opencellid integrating unclearls licenced
 data.

 Before you reply:

 STOP. As I said before, I may well be wrong!

 Happy Hacking,

 Tim

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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.org writes:
 arecord -D hw -f cd  -v -t raw | speexenc --stereo --rate 44100 --16bit
 --le - a.speex

Thanks. Speex would prefer 8, 16 or 32 Hz. Were you able to it to work with 32 
Hz?


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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Marcel
Am Sunday 22 February 2009 11:23:25 schrieb ßingen:
 El Domingo 22 Febrero 2009, Andreas Willich escribió:
  I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
  (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
  http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
 
  After a mail from c_c
  (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
  to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
 
  So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
  different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
  transfer files between PC and Neo.
 
 
  What do you think? Is such an application needed?

 For sure. I think it would be great to have such an application.
 About the sync? Which distributions would it be compatible with? Anb by the
 pc side, which applications would be possible to sync with? Would kontact
 be one of them?

One could have backends for different distros, on either side... Do you know 
about opensync? Maybe extending that is a good idea?

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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Thomas Landspurg
  Hello Robin,

  Thanks for poiting this out. Any thought on what license then should
OpenCellID use? I would be happy if somebody with a good background on this
would provide us a suggesiton on the license or even the wording to be used
with OpenCellID.

  And sebastian, as I stated yesterday, congrat for the idea, I am looking
forward for the integration between this effort and OpenCellID.

  Regards,


2009/2/22 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com

 2009/2/22 Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de:
  now I find the time to post on the community mailinglist and like to
  (already mentioned here) introduce myself and CellHunter.
 
  I am student right now and got together with some friends and imagined
  that we could have fun with cellids and games based on there cells. But
  for this we need a database to work on and so i started the project
  CellHunter [1].
 
  CellHunter is a game where you collect cellids together with the gps
  position you received this cell. You are working in teams and get points
  for each cell you submit. The score for the submitted cell depends on
  the type of cell if it is already known or brand new. More about the
  point system on the homepage [2].
 
  Right know the CellHunter database contains about 45 entries with
  ~9000 unique cells. 35 teams active and we get new cells everyday.
 
  I know that there a several other cell databases and i contacted
  opencellid two days ago and will contribute. Others are welcome to
  contact me.
 
  The license of the data is discussed at the moment, i think it will be
  cc-by-sa but because this project is very new and grows faster than i
  expected i just want to check available licenses and their pros and cons.

 Hi Sebastian,
 good to hear you're working on this project. i've been working on
 openstreetmap.org, a conceptually similar project, for a couple of
 years now - they are currently in the process of transitioning from
 cc-by-sa to a new license, specifically designed for databases, with
 the help of a lawyer or two. their theory is that cc is more for
 creative content, which is not really applicable to osm; this may be
 useful for your project too. more info here:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License

 cheers

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Alexander Mueller
I think it would be so helpful to have something like it. But I would 
rather not compare it to the Nokia suite but to Palm Desktop. Well being 
a palm user for ages this might be the reason.

What kind of sync protocol to you intend to implement. SyncML seems to 
make the most sense to me. And that way you can use existing 
implementations and you are not limited to support only a single device 
(...bla bla bla, whatever can be said in favor of an open protocol...)

Greetings
Alex


Andreas Willich schrieb:
 Hi List
 
 
 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
 
 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
 
 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.
 
 
 What do you think? Is such an application needed?
 
 
 Regards
   Andreas
 
 
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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:36:30 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Routing audio between SoC and Bluetooth should be possible through HCI
 (that is, BT is connected via USB to SoC). The chips shipped in the
 Freerunners have default eeprom setting (they call it ps keys) to
 route SCO audio (i think that doesn't affect A2DP) over PCM
 interface.

As I described on

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bluetooth_headset

I set the bluetooth configuration up to use PCM HCI routing since
org.bluez.audio.Headset.Connect does not work for otherwise. Maybe
this isn't needed though if you use HCI routing? [Caveat: I don't
really know what I'm talking about here!]

// Simon

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Re: Broken Screen

2009-02-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/2/16 Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be

 You might want to check with pulster, they offer a repair service (€89 for
 repairing a screen)


 http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omrepair__OpenMoko_Freerunner_repair_service793.htm

 F.


I killed the touchscreen in my phone :-(. The display works, but doesn't
recognize the touch. Most likely because I spilled water on it. Does the
pulster's service repair that?
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Daniel.Li
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 10:54 +0100, Andreas Willich wrote:
 Hi List
 
 
 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
 
 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
 
 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.
 
 
 What do you think? Is such an application needed?

Sure. Currently, I'm upset about N70 PC suite on ubuntu. As it ship with
Windows version. I can't run this tool on ubuntu. :(

Really, appreciated that kind of program.

BTW, any tips on get sync with Nokia N70 with ubuntu is mostly
appreciated:)
 
 
 Regards
   Andreas
 
 
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread George Brooke
On Sunday 22 February 2009 09:54:01 Andreas Willich wrote:
 Hi List


 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )

 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.

 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.
How about simply providing an easy way to ssh -X forward the application from 
the phone, you could even read all the .desktop files on the device - this 
would mean that you wouldn't have to add a settings UI for each app to your 
program you could simply use the built-in one.

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Paul ha scritto:
 My Freerunner, using U-boot, is happily running the latest SHR-Lite.
 And it is really good, I think! Nice, works with the phone quite well, 
 and responds really snappy.
 
 Me happy again.
 Thanks for all the help!
 
 Paul
 
Same here! SHR unstable it's fantastic, stable and really usable as a
daily phone.
Just one problem: I've a cheap BL-5C battery which works like a charm
with all my nokia phones, but with the Neo FreeRunner is not recognized.
That battery with OM 2008.12 doesn't show any info with apm, but worked ok.

On SHR unstable, even with the battery fully charged and connected to
USB, after 5 minutes, SHR autonomously power off the phone. I set all
the values in Settings - Power Management to -1, but nothing.

Any hint?
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes
If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not
maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?) supports
several different backends for actually storing the information (i.e.
the FSO layer only provides a dbus layer on top of whatever is
underneath) For instance, it may be put on top of the embedded evolution
data server [1] - and (I think) this already is supported by opensync
somehow, i.e. it could save lots of work.

What this does NOT provide though is the actual sending of SMS, I would
like an app like Blue Phone Elite (for the mac), which lets me
send/receive sms from the normal desktop (i guess this is like the nokia
pc suite)

- Gunnar


[1] http://labs.o-hand.com/embedded-eds/

Andreas Willich wrote:
 Hi List
 
 
 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
 
 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
 
 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.
 
 
 What do you think? Is such an application needed?
 
 
 Regards
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:02:37 +0100
Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote:

 If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not
 maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?)
 supports several different backends for actually storing the
 information (i.e. the FSO layer only provides a dbus layer on top of
 whatever is underneath) For instance, it may be put on top of the
 embedded evolution data server [1] - and (I think) this already is
 supported by opensync somehow, i.e. it could save lots of work.
 
 What this does NOT provide though is the actual sending of SMS, I
 would like an app like Blue Phone Elite (for the mac), which lets me
 send/receive sms from the normal desktop (i guess this is like the
 nokia pc suite)
 
 - Gunnar

I believe somebody already succeeded in sending sms's from the command
line. So, using the opimd api for the contact info and some ssh client
for then connecting to the phone and doing the actual sending seems
very feasable to me.

Franky

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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

Combining the collection of the date with the fun of a game, even outside, is
nice.

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 01:16, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 
 You get ready to run FSO and debian packages on the homepage [2].

I was thinking about putting a recipe for this package into OE so we can build
it for the FSO feeds for easy install and including into images.

You ipk contains some more files besides the python script for what I can find a
link on your homepage Namely an upload script, an icon and a desktop file.

Putting them all into a versioned tarball would make my life a lot easier.
(Perhaps even some distutils for a sane install?) Is this something I could talk
you into? :)

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Re: [Debian] Etk gui?

2009-02-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Samstag, den 21.02.2009, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Marcel:
 I'd at least like to try to build an Etk gui for Pythm. Problem: I have 
 Debian running and don't really want to change that, so I'm wondering if 
 there are e17 widget lib(s) available for it. The minimal etk gui example 
 from the wiki doesn't work since the python module etk is missing.
 Zhone doesn't seem to be a usable example for this case since it does all its 
 gui using custom graphics (and is not too clearly arranged...).

libetk (the C library) itself is not packaged yet, although it is amost
finished, according to the pkg-e team. (I’ve been saying that for a
while now, right).

When that is done, the python bindings need to be packaged. Other python
e bindings are present, so it should not be difficult, but needs to be
done.

You are best adviced to (politely) tell the pkg-e team that you would be
interested in a python-etk package at
pkg-e-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org, maybe saying what you need it for,
asking if there is anything you can do to help, and thanking them for
their work. You know, in Free Software, motivation is the currency :-)

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Re: fyp in qemu?

2009-02-22 Thread Kai Timmer
2009/2/20 Kai Timmer em...@kait.de:

 Please wait, programming the NAND flash...
 qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x0004
 [followed by a qemu register dump]

Can someone at least tell me if i did something fundamentaly wrong or
that this is a problem with the image? I am starting to get relly
confused.

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Carl Lobo
I'm really not too sure about this either, but I did manage to find a
few manuals on the wolfson site and read up on the sound systems on
the wiki, but from what I've been able to understand we need to setup
the control connection using the regular bluez stack and bluez+alsa
should be sending the sound directly through to the DAI connected to
the bluetooth device (I think that's the voice ADC). From what I
gather getting BT working on a phone call should be easier using this
method...
Using SCORouting=HCI is what you would do on a standard laptop to get
the headset working. After setting up using ~/.asoundrc using
bluetooth as the name for the headset config I can use the headset on
my laptop with something like
arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE
works - as in I could hear my own voice through the earplug of the
bluetooth headset (I had tried this a long while back with bluez
3.3[63] I think). The same thing did not work on the FR.
With SCORouting=PCM I did get static and some sought of noise once the
control connection was established...

mdbus -s org.bluez

lists a device - the path should be something like
/org/bluez/pid/hci0/dev_some mangled form of the btaddr for my
headset (it's paired and trusted).

After that

mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1387/hci0/dev_00_21_3C_07_5E_8E
org.bluez.Headset.Connect

Connects me to the headset
and

mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1743/hci0/dev_00_21_3C_07_5E_8E
org.bluez.Headset.Play

Tells me (from the bluetoothd log) that the headset is playing.

I tried playing a 8kHz 16 bit mono track and if I select DAI 0,2,3 it
plays through the speakers. But if I select DAI 1 aplay simply hangs
and even Control-C can't kill it.

On a phone call if I try to restore from either of the state files on
the wiki or play around with alsamixer I get no sound at all, either
from the phone/FR or headset.

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Re: fyp in qemu?

2009-02-22 Thread George Brooke
On Sunday 22 February 2009 11:29:39 Kai Timmer wrote:
 2009/2/20 Kai Timmer em...@kait.de:
  Please wait, programming the NAND flash...
  qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x0004
  [followed by a qemu register dump]

 Can someone at least tell me if i did something fundamentaly wrong or
 that this is a problem with the image? I am starting to get relly
 confused.

 Thanks,
Thats probably because you're trying to write a gta02 image to the virtual 
gta01 and it won't fit on the (virtual) NAND, you can only use the smaller 
gta01 images with qemu and not all distros provide them.

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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 Hello.

 Combining the collection of the date with the fun of a game, even outside, is
 nice.

 On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 01:16, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
   
 You get ready to run FSO and debian packages on the homepage [2].
 

 I was thinking about putting a recipe for this package into OE so we can build
 it for the FSO feeds for easy install and including into images.

 You ipk contains some more files besides the python script for what I can 
 find a
 link on your homepage Namely an upload script, an icon and a desktop file.

 Putting them all into a versioned tarball would make my life a lot easier.
 (Perhaps even some distutils for a sane install?) Is this something I could 
 talk
 you into? :)

   
Hi,

just all the files in one tarball with the right directory structure?
That would be no problem. If so please tell me or tell me what to do
else and you will get it.

Sebastian
 regards
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Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-22 Thread mqy

Yes, ogpsd within frameworkd saves/loads u-blox AID HUI/ALM/EPH messages.
u-blox A-GPS online messages are of AID message types. Let's read the html
content dumped from ghex:



 b5 62 0b 01 30 00 2d 26 29 f3 ba ca 13 1a ec b7 6b 18 20 a1 07 00 00 00 ee
 05 c4 7a 67 0e 00 00
 
 00 00 f4 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 e8 ce b5
 62 0b 31 68 00 03 00
 
 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 91 7b 00 51 1b 68 00 06 8a 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 f7 fb b4
 ff c4 3b 3c 00 2e 00
 
 00 00 3b 09 2e 00 d9 fc 3c 00 0e 2e 37 00 9c 27 f2 ff 05 3d fd ff bc 6c f6
 ff a1 db 1c 00 8f f7
 
 0d 00 7f c4 3b 00 0d c9 ff ff 33 17 41 00 25 59 00 00 22 32 c1 ff 24 44 0c
 00 e5 50 46 00 16 a4
 
 ff ff 33 06 3c 00 e2 f7 b5 62 0b 31 68 00 06 00 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 90 7b
 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a
 
 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 f6 fb b4 ff c4 3b 20 00 82 ff 00 00 10 12 08 00 0b fe 20
 00 75 5d 34 00 c2 12
 
 ae ff 02 fb fd ff 4e 22 ec ff a1 0e 1d 00 79 ca 0d 00 7c c4 3b 00 0f 3c 00
 00 d4 c1 f8 ff 26 f8
 
 ff ff dc 30 0f 00 c4 df 0b 00 e7 c0 95 ff 0c a8 ff ff 3b 0b 20 00 2b 9d b5
 62 0b 31 68 00 19 00
 
 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 92 7b 00 51 1b 70 00 06 8a 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 f0 fb b4
 ff c4 3b 6b 00 db 00
 
 00 00 1f a6 1e 00 ff 0c 6b 00 8a bb 31 00 cc bd ea ff 06 1a 0b 00 88 76 0a
 00 a1 9b 07 00 27 59
 
 0d 00 7f c4 3b 00 b8 39 00 00 22 17 98 ff 27 12 00 00 c8 d0 70 00 cd 13 27
 00 b7 86 fa ff 77 a6
 
 ff ff eb 11 6b 00 9e ee b5 62 0b 31 68 00 13 00 00 00 00 f1 4d 00 00 90 7b
 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a
 
 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 e1 fb b4 ff c3 3b 0c 00 fb ff 00 00 46 46 04 00 57 00 0c
 00 29 41 2f 00 48 c4
 
 d7 ff 02 49 00 00 75 0b a2 ff a1 b9 1c 00 3a 5d 0e 00 1c c3 3b 00 14 3d 00
 00 cb 85 b9 ff 27 17
 
 00 00 68 fa 05 00 f0 fa 0d 00 07 56 28 00 c0 a9 ff ff 59 10 0c 00 30 ab b5
 62 0b 31 68 00 0d 00
 
 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 90 7b 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 e8 fb b4
 ff c4 3b 29 00 0b 00
 
 00 00 c8 c3 25 00 b1 09 29 00 39 9f 24 00 00 9d 3e 00 01 0f 08 00 65 c0 ed
 ff a1 85 1d 00 a4 18
 
 0e 00 7c c4 3b 00 94 e8 ff ff d3 5b 00 00 28 d7 ff ff 20 85 8f ff 3d 86 0f
 00 60 1c 5a 00 25 ae
 
 ff ff 94 01 29 00 0d b3 b5 62 0b 31 68 00 10 00 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 90 7b
 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a
 
 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 eb fb b4 ff c4 3b 1d 00 e7 ff 00 00 cd e8 09 00 9d f1 1d
 00 74 3a 31 00 84 6b
 
 89 ff 02 a4 f3 ff 15 cc 98 ff a1 fa 0c 00 94 1a 0e 00 63 c4 3b 00 e7 d7 ff
 ff 4a a6 fe ff 27 3a
 
 00 00 19 e8 6d 00 f0 d2 20 00 cc 99 42 00 53 a6 ff ff 6f ee 1d 00 be a9 b5
 62 0b 31 68 00 17 00
 
 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 91 7b 00 51 1b 68 00 06 8a 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 d5 fb b4
 ff c4 3b 66 00 06 00
 
 00 00 ec b1 32 00 a2 08 66 00 14 e9 2a 00 af 4b 56 00 02 2f 07 00 b4 41 f6
 ff a1 a1 1c 00 0f 39
 
 0d 00 7d c4 3b 00 91 31 00 00 68 58 fc ff 27 f3 ff ff e4 48 91 ff 75 ca 0e
 00 3b 50 5e 00 a1 aa
 
 ff ff 32 fe 66 00 28 bd b5 62 0b 31 68 00 07 00 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 90 7b
 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a
 
 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 e9 fb b4 ff c4 3b 1b 00 fd ff 00 00 ca fb 02 00 04 0a 1b
 00 d3 73 33 00 ad 74
 
 71 00 01 79 08 00 ac 04 2e 00 a1 5e 06 00 05 64 0d 00 45 c4 3b 00 bc df ff
 ff 5a 61 74 00 27 c0
 
 ff ff 7f 27 58 00 77 90 28 00 53 f6 32 00 7c a3 ff ff 10 10 1b 00 88 4b b5
 62 0b 31 68 00 15 00
 
 00 00 80 59 4d 00 00 90 7b 00 51 1b 60 00 06 8a 7e 00 cd 3c 55 00 e7 fb b4
 ff c4 3b 5f 00 f0 ff
 
 00 00 9a e3 03 00 51 06 5f 00 ad bd 3d 00 0f b8 df ff 07 f8 04 00 91 5c 7e
 00 a1 03 09 00 4a 19
 
 0d 00 7c c4 3b 00 3d 55 00 00 e3 4e 49 00 26 b8 ff ff 62 b9 0f 00 94 48 23
 00 70 fd 28 00 9d a1
 
 ff ff 27 18 5f 00 0c b6 b5 62 0b 30 28 00 19 00 00 00 ee 05 00 00 9f 60 59
 00 b3 10 63 00 00 48
 
 fd ff f7 0c a1 ff 64 8a b8 ff b0 01 ce ff 80 ec 45 00 e5 00 1f 00 ac f0 b5
 62 0b 30 28 00 13 00
 
 00 00 ee 05 00 00 32 2a 53 00 f9 09 63 00 00 5c fd ff f1 0d a1 ff 4b ac 14
 00 7d 23 f0 ff 37 ec
 
 
.

Each individual message format is:
1. head: b5 62; 
2. the message class/id, e.g. 0b 01, 0b 30, 0b 31;
3. 2 bytes content length;
4. message content;
5. 2 bytes checksum.

There is no message head in offline data file from u-blox (e.g,
http://alp.u-blox.com/current_1d.alp),
this prevents us from extracting (and/or calculate) AID data then load into
u-blox GPS receiver.
As of HUI/ALM/EPH, ANTARIS_Protocol_Specification(GPS.G3-X-03002).chm says:
See ICD-GPS-200 for a full description of the contents of...
Sigh, If freerunner has flash memory, the offline data can be directly
submitted to u-blox GPS receiver. 



Helge Hafting wrote:
 
 Cédric Berger wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 17:49, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
 wrote:
 I may be misunderstanding the suggestion, but I don't think it had
 anything to
 do with data from ublox. The suggestion was to use data sent by other
 freerunner users instead of the data supplied by ublox.
 
 As I understood the suggestion was in reply to :
 
 It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox
 online
 aiding data.
 It is a problem since u-blox might go out of business and you might
 not want to tell them where you are all 

Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread kimaidou
Hi guys

I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so that
it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as :
arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav

Then we play it with aplay, and this way :
* no need for speex, so the app is more portable
* less job to do, so the app consumes less battery

What do you think ?

2009/2/22 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi

 Charles-Henri Gros 
 charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.orgcharles-henri.gros%2bopenm...@m4x.org
 writes:
  arecord -D hw -f cd  -v -t raw | speexenc --stereo --rate 44100 --16bit
  --le - a.speex

 Thanks. Speex would prefer 8, 16 or 32 Hz. Were you able to it to work with
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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 13:01, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 
  Putting them all into a versioned tarball would make my life a lot easier.
  (Perhaps even some distutils for a sane install?) Is this something I could 
  talk
  you into? :)
 
 just all the files in one tarball with the right directory structure?
 That would be no problem. If so please tell me or tell me what to do
 else and you will get it.

As it is a small package I see two options:

a) A tarball with all files in one flat dir. No directory structure needed. I
would then let OE install the files in the proper locations while building the
ipk.

b) A real distutils package where distutils know about the places, etc. May be
not needed from your side as you only have 4 files. Makes packager life easier,
but for this one I'm also fine with option a.

In both cases please make sure that the tarball has the version number included
in his name like other release tarballs. Something like this:

cellhunter-0.3.1.tar.gz

Thanks.

regards
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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 Hello.

 On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 13:01, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
   
 Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 
 Putting them all into a versioned tarball would make my life a lot easier.
 (Perhaps even some distutils for a sane install?) Is this something I could 
 talk
 you into? :)
   
 just all the files in one tarball with the right directory structure?
 That would be no problem. If so please tell me or tell me what to do
 else and you will get it.
 

 As it is a small package I see two options:

 a) A tarball with all files in one flat dir. No directory structure needed. I
 would then let OE install the files in the proper locations while building the
 ipk.

 b) A real distutils package where distutils know about the places, etc. May be
 not needed from your side as you only have 4 files. Makes packager life 
 easier,
 but for this one I'm also fine with option a.

 In both cases please make sure that the tarball has the version number 
 included
 in his name like other release tarballs. Something like this:

 cellhunter-0.3.1.tar.gz
   
So you want something like this:
http://78.47.116.33/~hole/cellhunter/files/cellhunter-0.3.1.tar.gz
 Thanks.

 regards
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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 Then we play it with aplay, and this way :
 * no need for speex, so the app is more portable
 * less job to do, so the app consumes less battery

 What do you think ?

But the quality is worse?


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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread kimaidou
Hum, is it a question, or a statement ? I personally don't know. If it is
worse, is it much worse ? I recall this is to record voice, not a concerto.
So a phone quality is enough (from my point of view).

2009/2/22 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi

 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
  Then we play it with aplay, and this way :
  * no need for speex, so the app is more portable
  * less job to do, so the app consumes less battery
 
  What do you think ?

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GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-22 Thread kimaidou
Hi,

I am developping voicenote (1), and I would like to implement a new function
: localize each audio note with the gps latitude, longitude and time. Since
I would like the soft to be plateform independant, I ask you to tell me how
can I :
* start gps if it is not
* know when I got a fix
* put the latitude, longitude and time into variables (and why not the
precision too : hdop)
* shutdown gps if it was not up when the script loads (if you think it
should do so)

Thanks for any help.

NB: I am just begining scripting; I know nothing about dbus (only copy paste
some working lines), etc. Please be patient :D

(1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote

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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 13:50, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 
  b) A real distutils package where distutils know about the places, etc. May 
  be
  not needed from your side as you only have 4 files. Makes packager life 
  easier,
  but for this one I'm also fine with option a.
 
  In both cases please make sure that the tarball has the version number 
  included
  in his name like other release tarballs. Something like this:
 
  cellhunter-0.3.1.tar.gz

 So you want something like this:
 http://78.47.116.33/~hole/cellhunter/files/cellhunter-0.3.1.tar.gz

That's fine for option b, yes. Will prepare something in the evening or
tomorrow. Birthday party now.

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[debian] fbvnc - need help

2009-02-22 Thread kimaidou
Hi list,

I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my
freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a
vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the
freerunner which can scale the server images it get.  Now, I can see only a
quarter of my laptop screen.

I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc
http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html
I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a binary
file for arm :
http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/

I downloaded the http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gz and
untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:23:10 +0530
Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Using SCORouting=HCI is what you would do on a standard laptop to get
 the headset working. After setting up using ~/.asoundrc using
 bluetooth as the name for the headset config I can use the headset on
 my laptop with something like
 arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE
 works - as in I could hear my own voice through the earplug of the
 bluetooth headset (I had tried this a long while back with bluez
 3.3[63] I think). The same thing did not work on the FR.

I tried this now as well, but it fails with

  ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1593:(bluetooth_init) BT_GETCAPABILITIES failed : 
Unknown error 240(240)
  aplay: main:546: audio open error: Unknown error 240
  Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
  Warning: rate is not accurate (requested = 8000Hz, got = 16000Hz)
 please, try the plug plugin (-Dplug:bluetooth)

(although I hear that the headset does something). It also fails with
-Dplug:bluetooth. However, this way, I'm able to play back oggs with
mplayer (choppy), so it's doing something right at least.

 After that
 
 mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1387/hci0/dev_00_21_3C_07_5E_8E
 org.bluez.Headset.Connect

I didn't get this working though, I get

   Connect failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod

when trying various combinations of paths there.

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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:40:18AM +0100, kimaidou wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I totally agree with you, i will implement this for the 0.2 version
 For the mono thing, I would like it but I don't know yet how to do it. This
 is why when you open a wav recorded file with audacity, you can see the 2
 left and right side, but only the right has data... This is not good.

   Have a look at controls 66 and 67. Depending on how your state file
routes the mic input, set them both to right or left. Example:

$ amixer sset 'Capture Right Mixer' 'Analogue Mix Right'
$ amixer sset 'Capture Left Mixer' 'Analogue Mix Right'

   (Why do we have both? They are forced to the same value.)

   Then select the same ADC as capture source for both channels (control
51):

$ amixer sset 'ADC Data Select' 'Right ADC'

   I have attached two state files, one to capture from the headset mic and
one to capture from the handset mic. Both use automatic level control and
the one to capture from the headset mic also uses the noise gate (squelsh)
control. The signal level at the handset mic is unfortunately too low for
that.

   Please also refer to the wiki as there are a _lot_ of ways to route sound
to and from various places with the WM8753L:
https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem

   It would be really great to have a mixer app where you could point out the
controls on a diagram such as the one on the wiki page.

 So if
 someone knwos the parameter to put in arecord to record only one mono sound,
 this would help !

   -c 1, but the WM8753L doesn't support mono. You can work around it by using
'-D plughw:0,0' instead of '-D hw:0,0'. Alternatively:

$ arecord --help | grep -F -e 'separate-channels'
-I, --separate-channels one file for each channel

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Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 * know when I got a fix
 * put the latitude, longitude and time into variables (and why not the
 precision too : hdop)

$ cat bin/gps-get-position
#!/bin/sh
echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2



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Re: [Query] Known Good SD cards

2009-02-22 Thread Shaz
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dkwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:57:27AM +0500, Shaz wrote:
   Hi everyone,
 
  I need some guidance on uSD cards because i tried a few locally available
 to
  my town but none are working. My understanding is that its the quality or
 I
  am making a mistake in compatibility.
 
  I need some help in understanding this issue. If there are known to be
  working SD cards then I would order from some other place if not
 available
  locally.

I bought an 8 GB speed class 4 SanDisk card marked 0732502849DZG (in
 very
 small letters - bring a magnifying glass to the shop). It came bundled with
 a combined MicroSDHC and M2 card reader with USB connector. I've had the
 card for about two months with a Debian installation and it works fine with
 u-boot (as shipped in NOR and NAND flash) and kernel versions 2.6.24 and
 andy-tracking 2.6.28. No boot parameters required.

   There were two different SanDisk packages of an 8 GB card and a USB card
 reader I could choose from. According to the salesman the differences were
 only in the packaging. But anyway, the one I bought has 80-13-02494 printed
 at the bottom of each page of the user guide. The barcode on the back of
 the
 package reads 6 1965904025 3 with SDSDQR-8192-E12M printed above it and
 80-56-04874-8192 printed below it.


Thanx. I am also interested in kernel 2.6.24 with factory default uboot of
FreeReunner. You information seems to be having all the details for me :)



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Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
 NB: I am just begining scripting; I know nothing about dbus (only copy 
 paste some working lines), etc. Please be patient :D

This is not bash, but python, and it need lib_pyfso_gobject import. The 
good part is that it use fso-frameworkd

But I think it can help:

from lib_pyfso_gobject import *
import gtk

usage = OUsaged()
gps= OGpsd()

usage.request_resource('GPS')

def on_gps_fix(status):
 print Fix status:  + str(status)

def on_gps_position(fields, tstamp, lat, lon, alt):
 print '-' * 10
 print 'Lat: ' + str(lat)
 print 'Log: ' + str(lon)
 print 'Alt: ' + str(alt)

gps.connect('fix-status-changed',on_gps_fix)
gps.connect('position-changed',on_gps_position)

gtk.main()

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

2009-02-22 Thread HouYu Li
Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image? I can
build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner with the
default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
  You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think
  that
  should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install
  what
  you see fit)

 Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't work.
 I think there must be something else that should be installed.

 $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
 qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com writes:
 I'm really not too sure about this either, but I did manage to find a
 few manuals on the wolfson site and read up on the sound systems on
 the wiki, but from what I've been able to understand we need to setup
 the control connection using the regular bluez stack and bluez+alsa
 should be sending the sound directly through to the DAI connected to
 the bluetooth device (I think that's the voice ADC). 

Not possible at all. DAI connected to the bluetooth device is
inaccessible for SoC. The most you can do is set Voice DAC/ADC
parameters (rate, format) and set up routing accordingly. That's the
way GSM over BT headset (SCO) works currently, afaik.

 From what I gather getting BT working on a phone call should be
 easier using this method... 

Only for GSM without ability to record the call or playback something.

 Using SCORouting=HCI is what you would do on a standard laptop to
 get the headset working. 

Bluez has this setting by default and most laptop bluetooth modules
are pre-configured like this anyway. Moreover, this config option has
no impact on routing itself at all, it's just a hint to the other
applications about what they can and what they can't do (obviously,
they can't transfer sound over HCI when it's routed via PCM). I'm not
sure it has any effect in current versions at all.

The chip used in freerunner (CSR) has a special config memory option
to select how to route SCO. Please look up AN107 from CSR for
details. [1]

 After setting up using ~/.asoundrc using
 bluetooth as the name for the headset config I can use the headset
 on my laptop with something like arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE |
 aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE works - as in I could hear my own voice
 through the earplug of the bluetooth headset (I had tried this a
 long while back with bluez 3.3[63] I think). 

Works with laptop obviously because it routes over HCI by default.

 The same thing did not work on the FR. 

Because the chip is preconfigured to route over PCM it's impossible to
do otherwise unless this eeprom setting changed (csr calls it ps
keys).

  With SCORouting=PCM I did get static and some sought of noise once
 the control connection was established...

Probably you'd get sound if you routed any source inside WM8753 to the
bluetooth DAI.

 I tried playing a 8kHz 16 bit mono track and if I select DAI 0,2,3 it
 plays through the speakers. But if I select DAI 1 aplay simply hangs
 and even Control-C can't kill it.

DAI 1 is currently broken. And i can't imagine a case when it can be
needed at all. Please see the new routing diagrams of the wiki, they
make routing and DAI modes more clear.

[1] 
http://case.cs.mnsu.edu/NSM%20Technology/141_HCI%20Implementation%20on%20BlueCore%20(AN107d).pdf
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Re: Announcing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend

2009-02-22 Thread c_c

Hi,

Stefan Monnier wrote:
 
 MPD+pythm works just fine as a standalone music player as well, of course.
 
 Didn't know that.

Stefan Monnier wrote:
 
 Neither did I want to belittle your work.  Just pointing out that your
 original motivation could have been addressed without reinventing the
 wheel.  Maybe your wheel is really much better, but from what I've seen
 in the past, we have too many toyish music players, so it would be
 better to improve existing ones than to make yet-another-one.
 
Well, I'm actually looking at taking it further - apart from being a
frontend to mplayer. I'm also looking at playing ogg through tremor and
trying out mpg123 to see if that is any better. Though, I intend stopping
after these two codecs - since most audio IMHO is likely to be in these
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Sephora 0.2.2 available

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
Hello

New version of Sephora. Now it is again compatible with fso milestone 5.

Improvements:
   * Moved to lyb-pyfso-gobject library
   * Update to fso-framework milestone 5
   * Added new indicators to power section
   * Modified phone section

Now it require the package: lib-pyfso-gobject

Warning:
   For pin sim locked user, there will be as short is possible a new 
version that will support the SIM pin. Question: Would you like to have 
the possibility to have sephora remembering the pin? Do you want it 
encrypted (It will be in every case a low encryption)?

Question:
 Sephora need the root priviledge. I would like to know how to get 
it to have the root priviledges. I was thinking gtksu, but when there is 
gtk su active, there is no possibility to use the onscreen keyboard.
For now the only way for non root users, is to launch from a terminal 
with sudo sephora.


Here there are the links:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.dsc
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1.tar.gz
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/lib-pyfso-gobject_0.0.1-1_all.deb

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1.dsc
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1.tar.gz
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/562269/Sephora/sephora_0.2.2-1_all.deb


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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread onen . om
Hallo Sebastian,

as stated in a previous thread, I have been working on a logger of GPS/GSM data,
for the openBmap project [1]. I was almost done when discovering through
community updates the existence of your project.

I decided to release before getting in touch with you. I had a look at your
code. Please correct me if I am wrong. You send direct AT commands to the
device, and do not use DBus FSO API? If so do you intend to keep it this way?

In my logger, I use the DBus API. Thus I thought that we could try to build a
common engine, and put GUIs on top of it. My idea would be to have an engine
based on FSO API. On top of it have your game aspect. Stefan also pointed out
that we could have the GSM/GPS logger + positioning system as a framework
daemon. (please correct me if I misunderstood).

What do you think? Source code is in the package[2], as it is Python based.

[1] http://realtimeblog.free.fr/
[2]
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=218065package_id=310952

Onen


Quoting Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de:

 Hi,

 now I find the time to post on the community mailinglist and like to
 (already mentioned here) introduce myself and CellHunter.

 I am student right now and got together with some friends and imagined
 that we could have fun with cellids and games based on there cells. But
 for this we need a database to work on and so i started the project
 CellHunter [1].

 CellHunter is a game where you collect cellids together with the gps
 position you received this cell. You are working in teams and get points
 for each cell you submit. The score for the submitted cell depends on
 the type of cell if it is already known or brand new. More about the
 point system on the homepage [2].

 Right know the CellHunter database contains about 45 entries with
 ~9000 unique cells. 35 teams active and we get new cells everyday.

 I know that there a several other cell databases and i contacted
 opencellid two days ago and will contribute. Others are welcome to
 contact me.

 The license of the data is discussed at the moment, i think it will be
 cc-by-sa but because this project is very new and grows faster than i
 expected i just want to check available licenses and their pros and cons.

 The idea to create a database of cells is not new but to combine it with
 a game is something that motivates people to contribute.

 Here are some technical details about CellHunter:
 - offline and online logging of cells
 - logging of the main and up to 6 neighbourcells your mobile phone sees
 - statistcs displayed right on your freerunner
 - data displayable in google maps and osm
 - browsing osm cell map with dynamically loaded cell locations
 - export as kml / csv of the whole db or by team
 - teams of submitters with infotext about the group on the homepage
 - gui availabe in german and english

 Most of the already collected cells are located in germany and i would
 like to see some other countries to start their teams and collect
 points. You get ready to run FSO and debian packages on the homepage [2].

 If you have any ideas or suggestions i would like to hear them. For
 german users: we discuss cellhunter at the freeyourphone forums [3]

 Greetings, Sebastian


 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CellHunter
 [2] http://cellhunter.omoco.de
 [3] http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=9t=865

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

2009-02-22 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a 
bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be 
able to start qtopia.
I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but it is 
just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy

Tom

HouYu Li escribió:
 Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image? 
 I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner 
 with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com 
 mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
  You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think
  that
  should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install
  what
  you see fit)

 Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't
 work.
 I think there must be something else that should be installed.

 $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
 qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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Re: HELP: sim card not registering...

2009-02-22 Thread GNUtoo
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:19:15AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current
 one
  will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use
  the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering.
 
  I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
 
  Where this not enough?
 
  Where this not correct even though it worked?
 
  Please help...

 Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the
 SIM card is borked. Ah well...

 And, BTW, I had a belgian Base Prepaid which didn't work on the
 Freerunner but did on that same Nokia, and with moko10 firmware now
 works on the Freerunner a well.

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Re: Introducing CellHunter

2009-02-22 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
onen...@free.fr schrieb:
 Hallo Sebastian,

 as stated in a previous thread, I have been working on a logger of GPS/GSM 
 data,
 for the openBmap project [1]. I was almost done when discovering through
 community updates the existence of your project.

 I decided to release before getting in touch with you. I had a look at your
 code. Please correct me if I am wrong. You send direct AT commands to the
 device, and do not use DBus FSO API? If so do you intend to keep it this way?

   
I started coding with fso 4.1 and there was no possibility to get all
the information i need (as far as i know). With fso 5 it should be
possible to use the built in dbus commands.

I send at command via the fso debug commands and catch the results.
 In my logger, I use the DBus API. Thus I thought that we could try to build a
 common engine, and put GUIs on top of it. My idea would be to have an engine
 based on FSO API. On top of it have your game aspect. Stefan also pointed out
 that we could have the GSM/GPS logger + positioning system as a framework
 daemon. (please correct me if I misunderstood).

 What do you think? Source code is in the package[2], as it is Python based.

 [1] http://realtimeblog.free.fr/
 [2]
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=218065package_id=310952

 Onen


 Quoting Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de:

   
 Hi,

 now I find the time to post on the community mailinglist and like to
 (already mentioned here) introduce myself and CellHunter.

 I am student right now and got together with some friends and imagined
 that we could have fun with cellids and games based on there cells. But
 for this we need a database to work on and so i started the project
 CellHunter [1].

 CellHunter is a game where you collect cellids together with the gps
 position you received this cell. You are working in teams and get points
 for each cell you submit. The score for the submitted cell depends on
 the type of cell if it is already known or brand new. More about the
 point system on the homepage [2].

 Right know the CellHunter database contains about 45 entries with
 ~9000 unique cells. 35 teams active and we get new cells everyday.

 I know that there a several other cell databases and i contacted
 opencellid two days ago and will contribute. Others are welcome to
 contact me.

 The license of the data is discussed at the moment, i think it will be
 cc-by-sa but because this project is very new and grows faster than i
 expected i just want to check available licenses and their pros and cons.

 The idea to create a database of cells is not new but to combine it with
 a game is something that motivates people to contribute.

 Here are some technical details about CellHunter:
 - offline and online logging of cells
 - logging of the main and up to 6 neighbourcells your mobile phone sees
 - statistcs displayed right on your freerunner
 - data displayable in google maps and osm
 - browsing osm cell map with dynamically loaded cell locations
 - export as kml / csv of the whole db or by team
 - teams of submitters with infotext about the group on the homepage
 - gui availabe in german and english

 Most of the already collected cells are located in germany and i would
 like to see some other countries to start their teams and collect
 points. You get ready to run FSO and debian packages on the homepage [2].

 If you have any ideas or suggestions i would like to hear them. For
 german users: we discuss cellhunter at the freeyourphone forums [3]

 Greetings, Sebastian


 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CellHunter
 [2] http://cellhunter.omoco.de
 [3] http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=9t=865

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Klaus Kurzmann
* Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com [090222 15:42]:
 Paul ha scritto:
  My Freerunner, using U-boot, is happily running the latest SHR-Lite.
  And it is really good, I think! Nice, works with the phone quite well, 
  and responds really snappy.
  
  Me happy again.
  Thanks for all the help!
  
  Paul
  
 Same here! SHR unstable it's fantastic, stable and really usable as a
 daily phone.
 Just one problem: I've a cheap BL-5C battery which works like a charm
 with all my nokia phones, but with the Neo FreeRunner is not recognized.
 That battery with OM 2008.12 doesn't show any info with apm, but worked ok.

 On SHR unstable, even with the battery fully charged and connected to
 USB, after 5 minutes, SHR autonomously power off the phone. I set all
 the values in Settings - Power Management to -1, but nothing.

 Any hint?
current frameworkd has a rule to poweroff when the battery is empty...
Try to disable it in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml... it is:

-
trigger: PowerStatus()
 filters: HasAttr(status, empty)
 actions: Command('poweroff')

just comment those four lines out and reboot. Thats just my guess
though... not sure about it.

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

2009-02-22 Thread HouYu Li
Ok, I really downloaded a rootfs tarball from
http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4, the first one.
And created a .jffs2 file sucessfully. And then flash it to my freerunner.
But I cannot start it.

Do you know any tutorials on how to use qtopia with fso rootfs?? And I am
happy to see how you do it...

Thank you very much.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober
trive...@enable.clwrote:

 You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a
 bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be
 able to start qtopia.
 I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but it is
 just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy

 Tom

 HouYu Li escribió:
  Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image?
  I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner
  with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?
 
  On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com
  mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
   You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think
   that
   should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install
   what
   you see fit)
 
  Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't
  work.
  I think there must be something else that should be installed.
 
  $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
  qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 
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Re: Voicenote - new software

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi all,
on SHR unstable after installing correctly zenity and voicenote, I get
this error with libgnomecanvas-2.so.0:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ sh /usr/bin/voicenote.sh
zenity: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomecanvas-2.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Recording...
zenity: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomecanvas-2.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Recording WAVE '/home/root/voicenote_2009-02-22_16-15.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
Aborted by signal Terminated...
zenity: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomecanvas-2.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Your voice-note has been recorded under the filename :
voicenote_2009-02-22_16-15.wav

Any hint?

Stefan Schmidt ha scritto:
 Hello.
 
 On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 16:18, kimaidou wrote:
 Hi
 Can you please tell me on which distribution you have installed it, and how
 ?
 There are actually a desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ and a icon in
 the /usr/share/pixmaps.
 So on the OM and SHR distros, an icon should appear.
 Please provide more details please :S
 
 Ignore, it's working, my mistake.
 
 If you like to get this into OE and thus into the feed for FSO and other 
 distros
 let me know. If you don't have a bitbake recipe building the ipkg let me know
 the the building details and I can take care of it.
 
 regards
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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

2009-02-22 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
That jffs2 file will give you a barebones fso install, to which you have 
to copy your compiled qtopia package and then untar, unzip and install.
You can follow these instructions to do that (taken from mwester's website):

ssh to the phone
(do these ones on the phone)
wget http://moko.mwester.net/download/apm-qtopia-v2.tgz
tar -xzf apm-qtopia-v2.tgz
cd apm-qtopia-v2
./install.sh
| ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe
||mkdir /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia|
|
(do this on the host)
scp /path/to/qtextended.tgz r...@192.168.0.202:/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia

(do this on the phone)
cd ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia|
|tar xzf qtextended.tgz
cp ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.sh /etc/init.d/qpe

Now restart and QtE will boot next time instead of the console image.
I have a prebuilt qtextended 4.4.3 snapshot tarball in 
http://triveros.go.dyndns.org/qtopia/qtefso.tgz in case you don't feel 
like building your own tarball (this is vanilla, no patches applied)

regards
Tom

|HouYu Li escribió:
 Ok, I really downloaded a rootfs tarball from 
 http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4, the first 
 one. And created a .jffs2 file sucessfully. And then flash it to my 
 freerunner. But I cannot start it.

 Do you know any tutorials on how to use qtopia with fso rootfs?? And I 
 am happy to see how you do it...

 Thank you very much.

 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober 
 trive...@enable.cl mailto:trive...@enable.cl wrote:

 You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a
 bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be
 able to start qtopia.
 I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but
 it is
 just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy

 Tom

 HouYu Li escribió:
  Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs
 image?
  I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner
  with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?
 
  On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com
 mailto:lida_m...@163.com
  mailto:lida_m...@163.com mailto:lida_m...@163.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
   You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages
 (i think
   that
   should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and
 install
   what
   you see fit)
 
  Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems
 didn't
  work.
  I think there must be something else that should be installed.
 
  $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
  qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 
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Re: HELP: sim card not registering...

2009-02-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:01:19PM +0100, GNUtoo wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:19:15AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current
  one
   will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use
   the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering.
  
   I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly:
  
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
  
   Where this not enough?
  
   Where this not correct even though it worked?
  
   Please help...
 
  Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the
  SIM card is borked. Ah well...
 
  And, BTW, I had a belgian Base Prepaid which didn't work on the
  Freerunner but did on that same Nokia, and with moko10 firmware now
  works on the Freerunner a well.
 
  Rui
 
 maybe your sim card was not activated yet by the phone provider...

That's not it almost for sure. It doesn't even register (search for 
in the attached file, where it sends the -- obscured -- pin code).

Lot's of weird messages...

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Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay
Greetings OM-heads,
I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here  
with me from the US.
I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but  
works in just every other phone I've put it in.

Can anybody recommend a Euro SIM/carrier that is known to work in a  
GTA02, preferably if you know it works in Italy.

Could this be an OS/distro problem? I'm running OM-2008-12 with  
Konfigurator.
Are there any command-line utilities I can use to get diagnostics or  
info on the SIM itself ?
The GUI simply says SIM missing or Not registered with no further  
details.

Thanks,
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Re: [2008.testing] sshfs

2009-02-22 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Sunday 22 February 2009, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:18:21 +0100, Jeffrey Ratcliffe
 jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
  How can get it to unmount cleanly?
 This usually happens because a process keeps a file or directory
 under the mount point open. One particularly frequent case is when
 the current working directory of some process is under the mount
 point. As the error message suggests, you can use lsof to identify
 the offending process.

sudo lsof +f -- /home/jeff/OM/moko

would give you the list of processes accessing your mountpoint

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and 
no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.

It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes:
 Could this be an OS/distro problem? 

Could this be a never upgraded GSM Firmware problem?

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Klaus Kurzmann ha scritto:
 * Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com [090222 15:42]:
 Paul ha scritto:
 My Freerunner, using U-boot, is happily running the latest SHR-Lite.
 And it is really good, I think! Nice, works with the phone quite well, 
 and responds really snappy.

 Me happy again.
 Thanks for all the help!

 Paul

 Same here! SHR unstable it's fantastic, stable and really usable as a
 daily phone.
 Just one problem: I've a cheap BL-5C battery which works like a charm
 with all my nokia phones, but with the Neo FreeRunner is not recognized.
 That battery with OM 2008.12 doesn't show any info with apm, but worked ok.
 
 On SHR unstable, even with the battery fully charged and connected to
 USB, after 5 minutes, SHR autonomously power off the phone. I set all
 the values in Settings - Power Management to -1, but nothing.
 
 Any hint?
 current frameworkd has a rule to poweroff when the battery is empty...
 Try to disable it in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml... it is:
 
 -
 trigger: PowerStatus()
filters: HasAttr(status, empty)
actions: Command('poweroff')
 
 just comment those four lines out and reboot. Thats just my guess
 though... not sure about it.
 
 mrmoku

Thanks, I'll try :) Another question: it seems that fso-gpsd is on when
the system is powered on, because if I try /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd
terminal answers me that it's already running.
I use GPS only sometimes, so GPS should be powered off at startup, also
to avoid the battery draining.
In the same time, which is the role of SHR Settings Manager - Others,
when it default says: GPS radio policy = Auto? The GPS chip is on or
off? And if I act from Settings Manager, my settings will be lost on
reboot? If I set them to Manual and then I select Off, it seems that
on reboot it switches again on Auto... frustrating :(

How could I proceed to power off GPS on startup?

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 11:37, Sebastian Ohl wrote:
 the new packages can be downloaded from
 http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1
 +fso1_armel.deb

 to get it working just follow the instructions under
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#With_fbdev_driver_from_xserver-xorg
 and don't forget to change your device specification.


The url seem to be not running. I was trying to update: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Federico Belvisi
Michele Renda ha scritto:
 On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

 I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and 
 no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.
 
 It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried
was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone Italy.

Maybe you have a 64K...

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Klaus Kurzmann ha scritto:
 * Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com [090222 15:42]:
 Paul ha scritto:
 My Freerunner, using U-boot, is happily running the latest SHR-Lite.
 And it is really good, I think! Nice, works with the phone quite well, 
 and responds really snappy.

 Me happy again.
 Thanks for all the help!

 Paul

 Same here! SHR unstable it's fantastic, stable and really usable as a
 daily phone.
 Just one problem: I've a cheap BL-5C battery which works like a charm
 with all my nokia phones, but with the Neo FreeRunner is not recognized.
 That battery with OM 2008.12 doesn't show any info with apm, but worked ok.
 
 On SHR unstable, even with the battery fully charged and connected to
 USB, after 5 minutes, SHR autonomously power off the phone. I set all
 the values in Settings - Power Management to -1, but nothing.
 
 Any hint?
 current frameworkd has a rule to poweroff when the battery is empty...
 Try to disable it in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml... it is:
 
 -
 trigger: PowerStatus()
filters: HasAttr(status, empty)
actions: Command('poweroff')
 
 just comment those four lines out and reboot. Thats just my guess
 though... not sure about it.
 
 mrmoku

Pardon, I answer myself[1]: the GPS is powered on autoagically on boot,
so... is there a way to default power it off on boot?

Thanks ;)

[1] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Draft%3ASHRSettingsApp#lookfeel

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote:
 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone 
 Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3

It is the first time I listened sim problem with FR in Italy.
I can tested with a Wind sim and was running too.

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Giovanni
I live in Italy.
I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't work with
the Freerunner.
Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well.



On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Federico Belvisi armal...@alice.it wrote:

 Michele Renda ha scritto:
  On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
  Greetings OM-heads,
  I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
  with me from the US.
  I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
  works in just every other phone I've put it in.
 
  I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and
  no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.
 
  It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I
 tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone
 Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 17:26, Giovanni wrote:
 I live in Italy.
 I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't 
 work with the Freerunner.
 Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well.
May be is a Vodafone 128Kb sim related problem.

Someone of you tried to upgrade the Gsm firmware?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

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Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)

2009-02-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote:

Thanks Mirko for your update, nice to hear what's up.
Would it be possible to post these updates on the community list every
second week or every now and then - and also encourage the others to
do the same. I remember seeing some Paroli reports here but other than
that only very little information  from openmoko:/


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GUI for SHR fast charge mode: possible?

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Hi guys,

as in the topic name, I've flashed SHR unstable and noticed that the
battery.py GUI I used to open on OM 2008.12, with SHR doesn't work
anymore, showing the following error:

/usr/bin/battery.py:116: GtkWarning: Unable to locate theme engine in
module_path: moko-engine,
  self.win = gtk.Window(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 83, in update_capacity
cap = self.check_capacity()
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 55, in check_capacity
self.f = open(self.capacity, 'r')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 101, in update_charge
rate = self.check_type()
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 33, in check_type
self.f = open(self.charger_type, 'r')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 109, in update_voltage
voltage = self.check_voltage()
  File /usr/bin/battery.py, line 62, in check_voltage
self.f = open(self.voltage, 'r')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/voltage_now'

For me the fast-charging mode is really important to use the Neo in my
car, which adaptor for default provides only 100 mhA. Is there a way to
set quickly fast-charge mode on SHR unstable?

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Re: www.opkg.org ‒ source code released!

2009-02-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Community,

 For nearly two month there was no update from www.opkg.org. The reason
 for it is pretty simple: I had no time to develop anything for the
 website. At the moment there's a whole lot going on around here.
 However, I'm really pleased, that there are already 100+ packages in the
 database. Thanks to everyone who made this possible.

Hi Tobias!

It's great to see you publishing the source code but it's pity to see
the reason that you don't have time to work on opkg.org.

I really hope there's someone who's willing  has the skills to start
working on opkg.org.

Could you:
a) Write a post on the opkg.org blog about the release
b) Start a project for this in projects.openmoko.smthng

I really hope this is a new start, opkg.org is a too good idea to die!


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Re: [debian] fbvnc - need help

2009-02-22 Thread Brock
fbvnc is for the framebuffer, not to be run inside of X11 I'm afraid.

x11vnc does have a server-side scaling option you could look into.
Otherwise I don't know of any clients that do client-side scaling like
you want.

--Brock

On 2009.02.22.14.12, kimaidou wrote:
| Hi list,
| 
| I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my
| freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a
| vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the
| freerunner which can scale the server images it get.  Now, I can see only a
| quarter of my laptop screen.
| 
| I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc
| http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html
| I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a binary
| file for arm :
| http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/
| 
| I downloaded the http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gz and
| untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please?
| 
| Thanks in advance
| 
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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:33:09PM +0100, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:

I have attached two state files,

   this time around.

   Btw, the state files have the speaker/headphone output and amplifier
turned on (controls 87 and 93) for ease of testing. Just turn them off if
you don't need them to save power.

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capturehandset.state.gz
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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-22 Thread Sebastian Ohl
Hi,
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 17:06 +0100, Michele Renda wrote:
 On 22/02/2009 11:37, Sebastian Ohl wrote:
  the new packages can be downloaded from
  http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1
  +fso1_armel.deb
 The url seem to be not running. I was trying to update: 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
my fault. cutpaste is not good.

try
http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb

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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:30:52PM +0100, kimaidou wrote:
 Hi guys
 
 I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so that
 it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as :
 arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav

$ arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav
Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
arecord: set_params:923: Channels count non available

$ arecord -D hw -f S8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav
Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo
arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available

$ arecord -D hw -f U8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav
Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo
arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 17:57, Sebastian Ohl wrote:
 try
 http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb


Wiki updated,
thank you

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[SHR] compile pidgin-otr plugin

2009-02-22 Thread Jakob
Hi,

I would like to compile the otr-lib and the otr-plugin [1] for pidgin.
However I do not have any experience in compiling an existing project
with the openmoko toolchain. The wikipage for the toolchain says only
one has to cp the src in to the example project, which isn't enough
information for me. Maybe someone can give me some hints.

[1] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/

Jake

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Re: [debian] fbvnc - need help

2009-02-22 Thread kimaidou
thanks for the answser. I am not particularly looking for some client side
scaling, just for scaling. I if x11vnc can, it is ok for me ! I will look at
the man, and post back here.

thanks for your answer !

2009/2/22 Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org

 fbvnc is for the framebuffer, not to be run inside of X11 I'm afraid.

 x11vnc does have a server-side scaling option you could look into.
 Otherwise I don't know of any clients that do client-side scaling like
 you want.

 --Brock

 On 2009.02.22.14.12, kimaidou wrote:
 | Hi list,
 |
 | I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my
 | freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a
 | vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the
 | freerunner which can scale the server images it get.  Now, I can see only
 a
 | quarter of my laptop screen.
 |
 | I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc
 | http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html
 | I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a
 binary
 | file for arm :
 | http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/
 |
 | I downloaded the http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gzand
 | untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please?
 |
 | Thanks in advance
 |
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Re: [debian] fbvnc - need help

2009-02-22 Thread Brock
I decided to look around a bit more, and found that gvncviewer does what
you want. I just installed it (from apt-get) and it works! Slowly. I'm
not sure why it is so slow.

There are probably other vnc viewers that scale... I hear that krdc
will, but you have the KDE overhead to contend with.

--Brock

On 2009.02.22.18.15, kimaidou wrote:
| thanks for the answser. I am not particularly looking for some client side
| scaling, just for scaling. I if x11vnc can, it is ok for me ! I will look at
| the man, and post back here.
| 
| thanks for your answer !
| 
| 2009/2/22 Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org
| 
|  fbvnc is for the framebuffer, not to be run inside of X11 I'm afraid.
| 
|  x11vnc does have a server-side scaling option you could look into.
|  Otherwise I don't know of any clients that do client-side scaling like
|  you want.
| 
|  --Brock
| 
|  On 2009.02.22.14.12, kimaidou wrote:
|  | Hi list,
|  |
|  | I am running hackable1, and I would like to control my laptop from my
|  | freerunner. To do so, I can use vncviewer on the freerunner and load a
|  | vncserver as x11vnc on my laptop. But I need a client running of the
|  | freerunner which can scale the server images it get.  Now, I can see only
|  a
|  | quarter of my laptop screen.
|  |
|  | I found only one package to do so, which is called fbvnc
|  | http://pocketworkstation.org/fbvnc.html
|  | I have find the way to install it on my hackable, though there is a
|  binary
|  | file for arm :
|  | http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/
|  |
|  | I downloaded the 
http://www.pocketworkstation.org/files/fbvnc-arm-1.7.gzand
|  | untar it, but then I don't know what to do. Could someone help me please?
|  |
|  | Thanks in advance
|  |
|  | Kimaidou
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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Johny Tenfinger
GPS isn't powered on when booting. fso-gpsd is only wrapper, it is
turning on GPS only, when some app is connecting to it.

In shr-settings Auto is that state - GPS on only when needed. After
changing to Manual, if GPS was on, bottom toggle will be set to
on; and when with auto GPS was off, bottom toggle will be set to
off.

State of all of toggles about GSM, Wifi, GPS etc.is not saved
anywhere. All of that resources are disabled on boot, and enabled when
needed (GSM after ophonekitd started, GPS after TangoGPS or Navit is
started etc.)

So - you are wrong :D

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Johny Tenfinger ha scritto:
 GPS isn't powered on when booting. fso-gpsd is only wrapper, it is
 turning on GPS only, when some app is connecting to it.
 
 In shr-settings Auto is that state - GPS on only when needed. After
 changing to Manual, if GPS was on, bottom toggle will be set to
 on; and when with auto GPS was off, bottom toggle will be set to
 off.
 
 State of all of toggles about GSM, Wifi, GPS etc.is not saved
 anywhere. All of that resources are disabled on boot, and enabled when
 needed (GSM after ophonekitd started, GPS after TangoGPS or Navit is
 started etc.)
 
 So - you are wrong :D

This time I'm very happy to be wrong :D

The system you've described is *really* cool, is exactly what I define a
functional phone :D

Thanks for the explanations and thanks to all SHR team for bringing us
such beautiful work!

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:19:29 +0100
Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pardon, I answer myself[1]: the GPS is powered on autoagically on
 boot, so... is there a way to default power it off on boot?
 
 Thanks ;)

It IS powered off by default.  'Auto' means that frameworkd will power
up the relevant subsystem only if/when something requests the
resource.  In the case of the GPS, fso-gpsd is not starting up the gps,
but is waiting for something to access its 'fake' libgpsd, and when that
happens it requests the gps resource from frameworkd, so that it powers
up the GPS.  

Similar with WiFi - until something requests the resource it is
completely powered down.  (except - like other non-gps resources on the
FreeRunner - it doesn't have a special external handler like fso-gpsd,
it depends on the resource being properly requested via dbus)

The GSM chipset is also handled this way - with SHR, the GSM chipset
isn't powered up until something requests it.  (like ophonekitd, Paroli,
Zhone, etc)  But ophonekitd is launched by default when X starts up,
so the visible effect is that GSM is powered on automatically when
booted.

The result is that if you were to disable ophonekitd, you could boot
the FR and it would initially conserve maximum power by leaving GPS,
GSM, Wifi, and Bluetooth powered down.

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Paul

 The system you've described is *really* cool, is exactly what I define a
 functional phone :D

 Thanks for the explanations and thanks to all SHR team for bringing us
 such beautiful work!
   

May I add my thanks to this. Shr is really a very nice piece of work.   :-)
Paul

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Re: GUI for SHR fast charge mode: possible?

2009-02-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:37:36 +0100
Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote:

 as in the topic name, I've flashed SHR unstable and noticed that the
 battery.py GUI I used to open on OM 2008.12, with SHR doesn't work
 anymore, showing the following error:

SHR unstable (and FSO MS5) use 2.6.28 series kernels, and the sysfs
structure has been rearranged:

 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 '/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity'

/sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity

 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 '/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type'

/sys/class/power_supply/adapter/type
(I think...)

 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 '/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/voltage_now'

/sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now

 For me the fast-charging mode is really important to use the Neo in my
 car, which adaptor for default provides only 100 mhA. Is there a way
 to set quickly fast-charge mode on SHR unstable?

/sys/class/power_supply/ac/device/force_usb_limit_dangerous

Note that these are not the only paths that will work, as there are a
buttload of symlinks within the sysfs structure such that some of these
will appear at several different points under /sys/.  But the original
paths from the 2.6.24 kernel won't work.  What I've listed here are
(AFAIK) the shortest paths to each of these four.

j

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:43:20 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

   With SCORouting=PCM I did get static and some sought of noise once
  the control connection was established...
 
 Probably you'd get sound if you routed any source inside WM8753 to the
 bluetooth DAI.
 
 [...] Please see the new routing diagrams of the wiki, they make
 routing and DAI modes more clear.

I'm trying to follow these diagrams - I assume you mean the diagrams
under ALSA Channels on the wiki page [1]? For GSM-BT, DAI mode 0
should be used, which I guess corresponds to this switch in the alsa
state file:

control.50 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 'DAI 0'
comment.item.1 'DAI 1'
comment.item.2 'DAI 2'
comment.item.3 'DAI 3'
iface MIXER
name 'DAI Mode'
value 'DAI 0'
}

Since the mic on the bluetooth headset works, I presume that the basic
setup should be OK, but that the controls are somehow wrong. The
configuration file I use is [2], which the author states has worked
before two-way. I've tried to follow the diagrams, and to me it seems
like the setup shown in the diagram under Using Bluetooth headset with
GSM should be valid. As far as I can tell, the state file also sets
this up (knobs 54,57,58,64,65,62).

Could the Digital filters block can be setup wrong and effectively
mute outgoing sound?

// Simon
[1] 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem#using_Bluetooth_headset_with_GSM
[2] http://www.robsims.com/GSMBLUETOOTH.txt

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
Your idea is interesting. 

But as I am a lazy user, I want all my settings within one GUI.
Additional I want to use the application under Windows. I have to use
Windows and Office at my work and there I have the most time the neo
connected with my PC.

And the application is more targeting the not so experienced NEO/Linux
users. Perhaps a little step forward to mass market compatible?.


Regards
Andreas

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 10:56 +, George Brooke wrote:
 On Sunday 22 February 2009 09:54:01 Andreas Willich wrote:
  Hi List
 
 
  I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
  (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
  http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
 
  After a mail from c_c
  (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
  to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
 
  So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
  different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
  transfer files between PC and Neo.
 How about simply providing an easy way to ssh -X forward the application from 
 the phone, you could even read all the .desktop files on the device - this 
 would mean that you wouldn't have to add a settings UI for each app to your 
 program you could simply use the built-in one.
 
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich


On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 12:02 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote:
 If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not
 maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?) supports
 several different backends for actually storing the information (i.e.
 the FSO layer only provides a dbus layer on top of whatever is
 underneath) For instance, it may be put on top of the embedded evolution
 data server [1] - and (I think) this already is supported by opensync
 somehow, i.e. it could save lots of work.

At the moment the sync targets OM 2008.12 and Microsoft Outlook, because
I am using Outlook at work where I maintain my calendar and contacts.

But it adaptable to support different PIMs on Neo and PC side. FSO
support is on my roadmap.


 What this does NOT provide though is the actual sending of SMS, I would
 like an app like Blue Phone Elite (for the mac), which lets me
 send/receive sms from the normal desktop (i guess this is like the nokia
 pc suite)

This could be one of the functions of such an Moko/Neo Suite
application.
 
 - Gunnar
 
 
 [1] http://labs.o-hand.com/embedded-eds/
 
 Andreas Willich wrote:
  Hi List
  
  
  I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
  (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
  http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
  
  After a mail from c_c
  (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
  to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
  
  So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
  different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
  transfer files between PC and Neo.
  
  
  What do you think? Is such an application needed?
  
  
  Regards
  Andreas
  
  
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
At the moment MokoSync is a client/server application. It is written in
C# and runs with Mono on the Neo. Currently it uses the .NET RPC library
to communicate with each other.

As far as I know, SyncML has not only definitions for syncing data. It
also contains definitions for device management. Perhaps this is useful
for such a management application. Have to look at the standard once
more.


On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 11:49 +0100, Alexander Mueller wrote:
 I think it would be so helpful to have something like it. But I would 
 rather not compare it to the Nokia suite but to Palm Desktop. Well being 
 a palm user for ages this might be the reason.
 
 What kind of sync protocol to you intend to implement. SyncML seems to 
 make the most sense to me. And that way you can use existing 
 implementations and you are not limited to support only a single device 
 (...bla bla bla, whatever can be said in favor of an open protocol...)
 
 Greetings
 Alex
 
 
 Andreas Willich schrieb:
  Hi List
  
  
  I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
  (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
  http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )
  
  After a mail from c_c
  (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
  to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.
  
  So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
  different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
  transfer files between PC and Neo.
  
  
  What do you think? Is such an application needed?
  
  
  Regards
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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 12:09 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:02:37 +0100
 Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote:
 
  If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not
  maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?)
  supports several different backends for actually storing the
  information (i.e. the FSO layer only provides a dbus layer on top of
  whatever is underneath) For instance, it may be put on top of the
  embedded evolution data server [1] - and (I think) this already is
  supported by opensync somehow, i.e. it could save lots of work.
  
  What this does NOT provide though is the actual sending of SMS, I
  would like an app like Blue Phone Elite (for the mac), which lets me
  send/receive sms from the normal desktop (i guess this is like the
  nokia pc suite)
  
  - Gunnar
 
 I believe somebody already succeeded in sending sms's from the command
 line. So, using the opimd api for the contact info and some ssh client
 for then connecting to the phone and doing the actual sending seems
 very feasable to me.

I also think I read somewhere on the mailing lists that sending sms's
from the command line is possible.

 
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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:48:33 +0100
Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since the mic on the bluetooth headset works, I presume that the
 basic setup should be OK, but that the controls are somehow wrong.
 [...] 
 Could the Digital filters block can be setup wrong and effectively
 mute outgoing sound?

One more datapoint: /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio/dapm_widget
contains the values below, and the difference compared to
gsmhandset.state is only these:

  --- /tmp/standard Sun Feb 22 20:31:29 2009
  +++ /tmp/bt   Sun Feb 22 20:39:53 2009
  @@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
   Handset Spk: Off
   Handset Mic: Off
   Headset Mic: Off
  -GSM Line In: Off
  -GSM Line Out: Off
  -Stereo Out: On
  +GSM Line In: On
  +GSM Line Out: On
  +Stereo Out: Off
   Mic 2 Volume: Off
   Mic 1 Volume: Off
   ALC Mixer: Off

which seems a bit *too* small to me. In particular, I'd like Right
Capture Volume and/or Left Capture Volume to be set to on instead.
From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at least. I
haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the state
file and in the driver though.

// Simon

Handset Spk: Off
Handset Mic: Off
Headset Mic: Off
GSM Line In: On
GSM Line Out: On
Stereo Out: Off
Mic 2 Volume: Off
Mic 1 Volume: Off
ALC Mixer: Off
Right Capture Volume: Off
Left Capture Volume: Off
Right ADC: Off
Left ADC: Off
Playback Mixer: Off
Out 4: Off
Out 3: Off
Out3 Left + Right: Off
Voice DAC: Off
Mono Out 2: Off
Mono Out 1: Off
Mono Mixer: Off
Right DAC: Off
Right Out 2: Off
Right Out 1: Off
Right Mixer: Off
Left DAC: Off
Left Out 2: Off
Left Out 1: Off
Left Mixer: Off
Mic Bias: Off
PM State: Standby

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 22, 2009, at 17:21 , Michele Renda wrote:

 On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote:
 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last  
 time I tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot),  
 Vodafone Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

 I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3

This is precisely what I have.
It is a 64K SIM, bought from a Vodafone shop in Trieste.
I installed it yesterday, it asked for me to enter the PIN, which I  
did, but ever since then
I simply get the single star for the GSM signal strength(I'm running  
Illume) and when I
go to the Dialer to make a call, I get a SIM missing  error(even  
though it's installed and locked into it's carrier).

I put it into a friend's  Nokia N95 and it works fine. I put his ATT  
SIM into my FR and it picked up the Wind network.
I also tried the Vodafone 64K SIM in a ZTE 125 and it registered with  
a Slovenian Voda tower (some interesting multipath going on there)
and was able to make calls/texts.

So I'm thinking it has to be something with my FR. I've been using it  
for almost a month now with a T-Mobile SIM and this is the first
time I've had a problem. I'll look at the GSM firmware flashing  
article on the Wiki.

I think I'm going to go get another SIM, like a Wind or TIM and see  
if that works.

Thanks
Steve

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 22, 2009, at 16:36 , Michele Renda wrote:

 On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

 I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and
 no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.

 It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

Well, it's certainly brand new as I just bought it from the shop  
yesterday.
I don't know when it was made though.
The card that the SIM and PIN scratcher are on has the markings:
SIM 64K 14.51
Verona1

I hope that helps,
Thanks,
Steve

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Re: (SHR) again

2009-02-22 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 05:19:29PM +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 Klaus Kurzmann ha scritto:
  * Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com [090222 15:42]:

  Same here! SHR unstable it's fantastic, stable and really usable as a
  daily phone.
  Just one problem: I've a cheap BL-5C battery which works like a charm
  with all my nokia phones, but with the Neo FreeRunner is not recognized.
  That battery with OM 2008.12 doesn't show any info with apm, but worked ok.
  
  On SHR unstable, even with the battery fully charged and connected to
  USB, after 5 minutes, SHR autonomously power off the phone. I set all
  the values in Settings - Power Management to -1, but nothing.

   The only battery state indication you have with a non-BQ27000 battery is
the voltage as measured by the charger. I don't know where that has gone in
the 2.6.28 kernels, but in 2.6.24, it was something like
/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pcf50633/battvolt. You can try to file a feature
request with the SHR and FSO people to use it when you're not using the
standard GTA02 battery.

 Pardon, I answer myself[1]: the GPS is powered on autoagically on boot,
 so... is there a way to default power it off on boot?
 
 [1] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Draft%3ASHRSettingsApp#lookfeel

   That's not what it says. It says now gps is starting automatically,
which on FSO-based distributions usually means off unless in use. You should
have a sysfs file to check:

$ cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on  
0

(If it's not there in the kernel you're running, try to find it with the
command find /sys -name 'neo1973-pm-gps*' -print.)

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread George Brooke
On Sunday 22 February 2009 19:25:40 Andreas Willich wrote:
 Your idea is interesting.

 But as I am a lazy user, I want all my settings within one GUI.
 Additional I want to use the application under Windows. I have to use
 Windows and Office at my work and there I have the most time the neo
 connected with my PC.

 And the application is more targeting the not so experienced NEO/Linux
 users. Perhaps a little step forward to mass market compatible?.


 Regards
   Andreas
The program could always include a xserver in the windows version, also maybe 
the main apps could have a shared settings gui but x forwarding would save 
having to create a new version for the settings manager each time a new app is 
released not to mention incompatibility if one of the apps change how they do 
their settings from one version to another.

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Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes:
 From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at least. I
 haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the state
 file and in the driver though.

I'm going to prepare a routing diagram with alsa control names printed
over it real soon (today/tomorrow), as i'm already familiar with the
driver code, so it's just work to be done.

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