Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Alexander Raab a écrit : Hi, I'm thinking about getting a Freerunner. But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? And whats about the GTA03? Would it be sold this year, next year or ... best regards Alex In a mail from Steve Mosher (VP Marketing) on 2009/02/1st he wrote : -- Feb 2-9: final alsa states for A7 are developed and tested and signed off. Feb 9-16: Phones at the factory are flashed. Feb 16-23: Ship to Disty. Those are not official dates agreed to by everyone working the issue, but I suspect they are close. When will it get to you? That's hard to say. I would expect some disty will try to be the first with A7 phones and will start their order process as the TPE returns for work on 2/2. -- About GTA03 I think almost nobody is working on it, it's just a draft (a wiki page ?), am I wrong ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Fwd: unable to get the boot menu
Apologies, again reply to sender instead of reply-to-list... -- Forwarded message -- From: Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: unable to get the boot menu To: Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:31:54 +0100 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried several times again. After removing the battery for several minutes the device automatically boots when the battery is replaced. By the time I've turned the device around after replacing the back cover the openmoko logo is already displayed. (The device was not connected to any computer.) So I've shut the device down again by pressing the power button for several seconds. Without removing the battery but waiting some 30 seconds: 1) press and hold AUX 2) press and hold power after about 4 seconds the AUX button lights up, about 2 seconds later the openmoko logo is displayed and after that the device boots I released both buttons as soon as the openmoko logo was displayed. Again power down the device 1) press and hold power 2) press (and hold) AUX approx 2 seconds after pressing power before the openmoko logo is displayed again the device boots without displaying any kind of boot menu Is it possible to reconfigure the wait time of the boot menu via the device? I can't find anything in the settings menu or any terminal application that would allow me to execute commands. Regards Bram Maybe someone else will have a brighter idea, but all I can suggest at this point is unplug, remove battery, then hold down AUX while inserting battery. If that doesn't work, but it just boots right up instead, then try to confirm that the AUX button is functional, as I'm starting to suspect a bum button. If that's the case I've no idea what solution is feasible. j Any idea how to test the AUX button? During one of my tests keeping the AUX button pressed longer than usual the screen was displayed rotated 90 degrees. So at least it had some effect. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find much documentation of the applications installed so I can't tell if any of them should react to the AUX button being pressed. I'll try keeping the AUX button pressed while inserting the battery later. Regards Bram ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
Nacho Seijo wrote: I agree, with Phone Log you have an overview log. That's great! But this is the only way you have to realize you have missed calls. Could it be possible to notify missed calls by a notification screen? Or even better, could it be possible to notify them by an icon on top shelf? Some new top shelf gadget as clock, wifi or gsm. Raster, could this gadget be possible in illume? :) And maybe another icon to notify unread sms, instead of see the unread sms' content in the screen. Since anybody near the Freerunner can read it. In the Wiki was talk about differnt kind of LED flash scheme's. A simple flash-flash scheme of the power buttpn LED could be an indicator for a missed call or recieved message. Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/3/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: too. It looks like openstreetmap can have up to 50 files in a directory. So far this program has checked 5100 files in 12 minutes, and downloaded 260. It looks like it will get through all my 50.000 tiles in under 2 hours. I use wifi, the usb connection may be slower. If anyone want to try, here is the download link. http://www.aitel.hist.no/~helgehaf/openmoko/yaouh_new.py awesome, that's lots faster by the way, i don't know if it's important or not, but iirc osm folder structure has up to 128000 files per folder, for zoom 17 The tiles have 5-digit names, so the max would be 10 ? Anyway, that could be a problem. With hundred thousand tiles and about 60 byte per URL, pythm would send a 7.5MB parameter list to a invocation of curl. That can easily be trimmed down to 950kB by only sending file names. Still, it'd be interesting to know if the freerunner can handle that at all. A pc usually can. A loop can be used to limit this to something sane, like 1000 files or so. But do anyone actually have that many files? I just checked my 50.000 tiles, and found no more than 250 tiles in any directory. Perhaps a large square area at zoom 17? Further speedups are possible. File check data for 50.000 tiles is 12MB, the limit for such a dataset is how fast 12MB can be downloaded, and how fast all those files can be checksummed. And then there is the transfer of changed tiles. My code is inefficient when there are many small directories, because it starts a new transfer for each directory. To get the best possible speed, pycurl should be used. Everything can then be done from inside python, avoiding process creation overhead. Persistent connections can be utilized for the entire transfer, eliminating the small-directory problem entirely. I am not sure if there is a pycurl package yet though. Installing python-modules dodn't bring it in. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The draft of 13th community updates
Dear list : The 13th community updates will released on Mar , 6. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/March_6%2C_2009 As usual, I put the draft on Talk page first. Feel free to edit it. If there's some events information missed on the draft page, feel free to add events news on this page or contact me in private. The rule of events information of each community updates should be hold from the release day to the next release day. For example , 13th community updates will released on Mar, 6, the next community updates will released on Mar, 20, so the events information should be on during Mar,6~19 ). Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
This is a rather interesting development - it essentially means that the important features that made up Qt Extended becomes LGPL, something lpotter could of course not tell us (as in, he could only tell us that Qt Extended was not going to get LGPLed, but not that the features that make up the thing would become LGPL as part of Qt itself). But yes, it's a natural development :) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl wrote: I dont't know about you guys, but I saw this coming already http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debug board to borrow
My FR has a blank NOR, so I am unable to change my bootloader and have to live with the fear of bricking it. I don't want to pay €100 for the debug board just because OM sent me a faulty device. So I am asking if someone near Eindhoven(Netherlands) has the debug board and willing to help me flash my NOR. I found someone from the University but somehow we lost contact. My offer is treating a lunch in exchange for helping with his/her debug board to flash my FR. For the rest of people, sorry for bothering you. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:31:00 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Daniel Willmann wrote: Now that hot-/warmstart with ephemeris playback works with the framework we should try to get an open server with aiding data available ASAP. I hope that fso-gpsd gets updated soon too - it'd sure be nice to take advantage of a recently saved ephemeris when restarting gps software. fso-gpsd doesn't need to get updated, it just uses ogpsd which is saving/restoring the ephemeris received from the SVs already. For the improved ogpsd you will need a recent version of frameworkd as Stefan has already pointed out. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
Hi fellows, Where are the resources of those maps? Well, I mean the data of map? Where does it comes from? I found that map of euro is much more clear, compared to my location. Any ideas? On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 11:57 +0100, Carlo Minucci wrote: now is more faster (thanks to Helge Hafting) and i have add a progress bar for see the free space on the disk all info at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ***SPAM*** ***SPAM*** Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Hi fellows, Where are the resources of those maps? Well, I mean the data of map? Where does it comes from? I found that map of euro is much more clear, compared to my location. Any ideas? Openstreetmap.org - feel free to add details in your area, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
Hello everybody, We the gen...@openmoko team are pleased to announce that we reached our first milestone for running Gentoo on the Freerunner. This mean you can cross- and natively compile a basic system including X, enlightenment, the FSO framework, WLAN tools and many more packages. Also some phone GUIs went already into the overlay located at http://overlays.gentoo.org/embedded To get started, please take a look at http://gentoo.mindzoo.de or visit us on the Freenode IRC channel #gentoo-openmoko. The goal of our project is to provide a way to cross- and natively compile all packages of the protage tree and feed back our fixes to the official tree. Furthermore, we are going to provide Freerunner specific ebuilds like for the FSO framework and different phone GUIs. What you can expect: - the Gentoo feeling ;-) - forget about version conflicts - frequent enlightenment updates - easy integration of new packages (start writing ebuilds yourself, it's trivial!) - multiple phone stacks - CHOICE So to all Gentoo lovers: Stop-by and get the experience the Gentoo feeling on your phone! Disclaimer: Even though we did a great step in the right direction, there are still enough pitfalls, packages that don't compile and difficulties in setting up the cross-compile environement. So at this point in time Gentoo is _NOT_ ready for the average user. If you try nevertheless, be prepared for a bumpy journey! You have been warned! Best regards and happy compiling! ;-) Sven, in the name of the gen...@openmoko team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
Congrats, nice to see that happening. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
2009/3/3 Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl I dont't know about you guys, but I saw this coming already http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended If the selected features are the phone/pim and so on parts, we'll have a native mantained qtopia on x11. And this may be very interesting. May lpotter explain about this? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
Yes, it's not surprising. Due to various reasons -- some inside, some outside Trolltech's responsibilities -- after Opie was (more or less) buried 2005, they never managed to build a community around Qt/Embedded, err QtopiaCore, err Qt/Extended... ah well. That said, embrace Qt/X11, it's a great toolkit for the desktop. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
Well, may I cut in for a simple question here. I'm NOT familiar with the GUI development, and currently, I'm looking for 3-D GUI solution on hand-held device, which seems to use openGL to render scenes. Is there any possibility to realize this on FR? And what kind of basic FS + GUI environment can do this task? Any hint or advice is mostly appreciated. Thanks. On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 14:20 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Yes, it's not surprising. Due to various reasons -- some inside, some outside Trolltech's responsibilities -- after Opie was (more or less) buried 2005, they never managed to build a community around Qt/Embedded, err QtopiaCore, err Qt/Extended... ah well. That said, embrace Qt/X11, it's a great toolkit for the desktop. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
it's a great toolkit for the desktop. a devastating compliment ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?
Yeah, sure, some songs just weren't meant to be mono. But given that I have no headphones, I'll live with it. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
The output is -- Nothing. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:58, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: mhh now i don't have shr on my phone but try to open a terminal on the phone e launch this command: df / | tr -s ' ' | cut -d \ -f5 -s | tail -n +2 and past me the output. i think the problem is here ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df / Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df / | tr -s ' ' Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df / | tr -s ' ' | cut -d \ -f5 -s Use% I think the problem ist / because r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df | tr -s ' ' | cut -d \ -f5 -s | tail -n +2 44% 0% 0% 70% 1% On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 15:04, Richy klemms...@gmail.com wrote: The output is -- Nothing. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:58, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: mhh now i don't have shr on my phone but try to open a terminal on the phone e launch this command: df / | tr -s ' ' | cut -d \ -f5 -s | tail -n +2 and past me the output. i think the problem is here ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Flickering and no PIN dialog
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi all, | | Are more people experiencing on latest SHR unstable (built feb 28): | - screen flickering | - instable wifi connection | - no PIN dialog popping up when booting from Qi, it does come up when | booting from uboot (NOR?) | | I like SHR a lot but really really really hope a (more) stable release | of some sort will come forward. Sorry, I had to say this, just a bit of | frustration on my behalf that my device is still not working properly | and in the past it was better. If you use the latest Qi from http://people.openmoko.org/andy , it should work OK with the older kernel you have there and the GSM stuff will work again. So that should be one down, two to go :-) I used this one qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu already :S What actually happens different about the WLAN? -Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What to do when apps keep crashing?
Lately my freerunner seems to have gotten more unstable, some of the things that it is doing include: 1. Not wanting to fully connect during phone calls, it says it is connected but I can't hear them and they can't hear me (this may be a problem with my carrier, T-Moble sucks around here) 2. Sound not working, I had my phone in vibrate and ring which use to work but now it only vibrates 3. The config app crashes when I try and launch it, so I can't change any of its setting like turn on or off services, can't connect to wifi, etc... 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
unable to boot from the beta version of uSD MOKO11
I just prepared the uSD, but when I am trying to boot, I got the error that the system cannot find the uImage.bin tia chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/unable-to-boot-from-the-beta-version-of-uSD-MOKO11-tp2415457p2415457.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: last.fm anyone?
vagalume used to work perfectly on shr on shr-unstable it's been broken for some time now On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Gaël HERMET mail...@superzell.fr wrote: Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Hi! Has anyone tried to work on a last.fm[1] client for Openmoko? I guess shell.fm[2] would be the easiest solution but anything with a gui? There are some scrobblers like [3] that might work but they aren't able to play the music. [1] http://www.last.fm/home [2] http://nex.scrapping.cc/shell-fm/ [3] http://www.ohrner.net/software/itsgotthevibez_en.php r Vagalume ? http://vagalume.igalia.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
I've verified the issue on GPS receiver in GTA02: When dump ALM/EPH messages, in several messages, fields follow SV ID field in payload are filled with zeros. Daniel Willmann wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:25:14 -0800 (PST) mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: UBX-AID-EPH and UBX-AID-ALM Messages for Satellite without valid Orbits When polling UBX-AID-EPH or UBX-AID-ALM messages, satellites without valid ephemeris or almanac data will return a complete UBX-AID-EPH or UBX-AID-ALM message with all data words set to zero. This doesn’t comply with the protocol specification. Furthermore, u-blox 5 receivers with firmware V5.00 and earlier can run into a floating-point exception when fed with such “empty” ephemeris. Is that the cause :D Yeah, thought that at first as well, but almanac data was okay at that point. The position was not, however. I guess the problem the chip tripped over is similar in both cases though. Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/thoughts-on-A-GPS-offline-tp2338403p2415564.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: Lately my freerunner seems to have gotten more unstable, some of the things that it is doing include: 1. Not wanting to fully connect during phone calls, it says it is connected but I can't hear them and they can't hear me (this may be a problem with my carrier, T-Moble sucks around here) 2. Sound not working, I had my phone in vibrate and ring which use to work but now it only vibrates These two seems to be the same thing. Something is wrong with sound, so you get no ringtone and no sound when connected. 3. The config app crashes when I try and launch it, so I can't change any of its setting like turn on or off services, can't connect to wifi, etc... In an emergency, log in with ssh. Most configuration can be changed in the /etc directory. One thing to check when everything breaks is if the filesystem is full. It may fill up over time because of logfiles. Try the command df. 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old? Tried the new SHR testing? Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the stable version. For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer There are some things that won't be better, but in some things there is a marked difference. one thing to realise is that the group of programs installed may well differ. let us know how you get on, Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Word processing application
Hi! I'm looking for some kind of word processing application. I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring laptop with me - only the keyboard. I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it. Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Can someone suggest something else for text editing? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[paroli] weekly update week 10 of 2009
Hej all, here an overview if the highlights of the things the paroli team has been working on in week 9 and the first part of week 10: -the msgs application is in and being shipped in every build you can view, send, receive, answer to and forward messages also it will offer you to save any unknown number to your phonebook -the people application is in and also being shipped every day you can view, edit and directly call a contact - the call logs i.e. the i/o application is also being shipped you can view your call logs and directly return the call also it will offer you to save any unknown number to your phonebook - dtmf in tele - ussd in tele you can receive and send simple ussd messages. NOTE: a very ugly window will open with the message written in very small letters, but it works. We will have a look into this a bit later. - small reworks on the lists we use - gsm and battery icons - muting ringtone when incoming call - muting call (mutes microphone) - Charlie did a complete rework of the service class so that there should not be any errors due to services not waiting for one another anymore and lots of other small things that would make this an endless list :) what will we do next: we will focus on some details that had been neglected so far such as - finally getting some scrolling or paging to work in our lists - getting some secondary actions associated with our list items - look at how we can go about a settings application as discussed on this list earlier - make certain internal adjustments to classes and applications to allow more flexibility - getting an image that works out of the box again As usual, if you have any questions, ideas, critique or think you can contribute to paroli in any way get in touch with me :) /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I'm looking for some kind of word processing application. I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring laptop with me - only the keyboard. I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it. Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Can someone suggest something else for text editing? Write XeLaTeX in whichever of the following is to your likings and is available on FreeRunner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JED_(text_editor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Own_Editor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nano_(text_editor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedit On you laptop compile the .tex file into a PDF. Regards, Pander Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[paroli] codesprint coming closer
Hej all, I just wanted to send a gentle reminder about the upcoming paroli codesprint at the Chemitz linux days. It is a whole day of live coding and hacking in paroli. I thought we should focus on getting a flexible, stable settings application in paroli. The foundations have been written and are already in the code for you to check it out. Would be great to see many of you and of course we can look at other issues and topics too. So go to the anmelde page[2] and C U in Chemnitz. /mirko [1] de : http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/ en: http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/index_en.html [2] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/vortraege/detail.html?idx=208 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
So to all Gentoo lovers: Stop-by and get the experience the Gentoo feeling on your phone! I'd like to contribute to wiki, are there some policy about it and bug/filing? Should information on wiki.openmoko.org redirect users to http://gentoo.mindzoo.de ? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
2009/3/3 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: I'd like to contribute to wiki, are there some policy about it and bug/filing? Hey nice! So far we have not yet decided on a policy about wiki edits or bug filing. However, if you find something is wrong file a bug on gentoo.mindzoo.de (even if you think it's trivial). If you want to create new pages on the wiki you should join the #gentoo-openmoko IRC channel on Freenode and ask there! Should information on wiki.openmoko.org redirect users to http://gentoo.mindzoo.de ? I already does. ;-) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Monday 02 March 2009, Margo Koppelmann wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Now I know, that I won't want to buy GTA03, even if I had enough money (ok ok, if only i was some millionaire i would buy it, but until i'm not, there are other possibilities to spend money :P). My using scenario of touch screen of Linux based phone needs resistive screen. Capacitive is not an option. But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the capacitive screen would not be a problem. Again that depends on usage scenario. For example can you sign your name with a trackball? Or use one with gloved hands? This is a case where there is AFAIK no one size fits all sensing technology; if there was then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Going to a capacitive screen will allow GTA03 to be used in some scenarios where GTA02 can't, and vice versa. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Pander wrote: It is more that it is available via easy to controls, i.e. my mother could use it. Settings should be fine. it is where you go to make changes. Rename GSM to Phone, and GSM antenna to Flight mode (and swap on/off around) Flight mode would need to disable WiFi and Bluetooth too. Or possibly just WiFi and Bluetooth, given that GSM picocells are now being deployed in some planes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: Word processing application
On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I'm looking for some kind of word processing application. I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring laptop with me - only the keyboard. I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it. Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Can someone suggest something else for text editing? Which distro are you using? Abiword is one of the things I usually build myself, so I might have ipkgs available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a shell. I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX installed on my OM. Greetings Sven [¹] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. -- Sven Bretfeld CERES -- CEntrum für REligionswissenschaftliche Studien Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Hello. On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 13:07, Stefan Schmidt wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:10, Onen wrote: Stefan Schmidt wrote: For what I have understood, you would prefer a SCM. And now that first release is out, the first point on my TODO list was exactly that. You will find a git tree at: http://myposition.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=myposition;a=tree I have two question about this: * is it good enough as it is for you? SCM or tarballs are both fine with me. Depending on how often you do releases I would then decide If the SCM or the release tarball makes more sense. * is there anything I could do to ease your work of pushing to OE (structure, names, ...)? I'll will look into preparing a recipe for it today or tomorrow and will let you know if I run into problems that are better solved on your side. Just finished a recipe for it. It was rather ugly to make sure every file installs at the right place. I would be glad if you would consider using distutils for one of the upcoming releases. Anyway, I pushed it into OE and the autobuilder should pick it up in the next hours which makes it available in the feed for MS5. Let me know if there are problems. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
This is a case where there is AFAIK no one size fits all sensing technology; Going to a capacitive screen will allow GTA03 to be used in some scenarios where GTA02 can't, and vice versa. I've been following this with mild interest for a while, and so far I haven't really seen anything you can do with capacitive that you can't do with resistive... Did I miss something? It seems the only benefit to capacitive is that it can be more durable, and accidental touches are all but eliminated. What scenario can you use capacitive for that you can't use resistive for? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
Am Tuesday 03 March 2009 20:59:20 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: This is a case where there is AFAIK no one size fits all sensing technology; Going to a capacitive screen will allow GTA03 to be used in some scenarios where GTA02 can't, and vice versa. I've been following this with mild interest for a while, and so far I haven't really seen anything you can do with capacitive that you can't do with resistive... Did I miss something? It seems the only benefit to capacitive is that it can be more durable, and accidental touches are all but eliminated. What scenario can you use capacitive for that you can't use resistive for? Capacitive screens just need really slight touches while resistive ones need a real pressure to register the click. Although I love the Neo, I really like using f.e. an iPod Touch because it feels _way_ better. Which might be also caused by the polished ui, but the touchscreen definitely influences that. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.nowrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: Lately my freerunner seems to have gotten more unstable, some of the things that it is doing include: 1. Not wanting to fully connect during phone calls, it says it is connected but I can't hear them and they can't hear me (this may be a problem with my carrier, T-Moble sucks around here) 2. Sound not working, I had my phone in vibrate and ring which use to work but now it only vibrates These two seems to be the same thing. Something is wrong with sound, so you get no ringtone and no sound when connected. I know pulseaudio likes to mess up sound but that is not installed on my FR. 3. The config app crashes when I try and launch it, so I can't change any of its setting like turn on or off services, can't connect to wifi, etc... In an emergency, log in with ssh. Most configuration can be changed in the /etc directory. One thing to check when everything breaks is if the filesystem is full. It may fill up over time because of logfiles. Try the command df. While my root filesysem is larger than I would like it, at 65% used it is not full. 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old? Tried the new SHR testing? I will give SHR Testing a try Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old? Tried the new SHR testing? I will give SHR Testing a try First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page there is one concern and a question On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues Address Book SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work is in progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some consequences on daily use: - Only contacts on the SIM card are available. - It is not possible to import a Vcard file. - It seems to be possible with thisgopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gzscript written by Zem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts. None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that can read Vcards so I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my MicroSD card, into SHR? As for the question which one of the files on this server http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel needed there seems to be two different ones. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] DBus Remote - missing package socat - for writing remote sms-tool
Hi all, I'm playing a little with DBus and JAVA. THe first communication just works fine. I heart, that it is possible to let the local DBus, in my case a PC, communicate with a remote DBus, in my case the Freerunner (what else?). In [1] is described how to achieve the remote connection. The author writes, that the remote system has to have installed socat, but I can't find it in the repository (FSO MS5). Is it possible that someone can compile it for me? That would be great. Perhaps I should say, for which application I want to use this. Maybe that there is a better way. I want to write a sms-application for the desktop, which sends the messages via the freerunner. Another way, which came in my mind was writing a server (java.rmi) which makes the dbus-connection and a client, which just connects to rmi. But in my mind the first solution looks better because you don't need an extra server. Any comments and hints are welcome. [1] http://www.eldemonionegro.com/wordpress/archivos/2008/05/22/howto-to-intercomunicate-processes-in-differentremote-machines-through-dbus Greetings Bastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
Well, there is no (massmarket) implementation of multi-touch using resistive touch technology. There has been one link in this thread to one that is being developed, but that technology was not yet finished if I remember correctly, and it was not licensed to any manufacturer of touch panels. A link to the resistive, work-in-progress, multi-touch: http://hackaday.com/2009/02/19/stantums-high-precision-multitouch/ But except for the multi-touch; the more durable argument is really important to me, at least.. I want to carry my phone with me everywhere, and I want it to be easily accessible everywhere which means I don't want to put it into a protective thingy, and I don't want to reach for my precision enhancing pointing device to use it. Best regards Anton On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:59 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: This is a case where there is AFAIK no one size fits all sensing technology; Going to a capacitive screen will allow GTA03 to be used in some scenarios where GTA02 can't, and vice versa. I've been following this with mild interest for a while, and so far I haven't really seen anything you can do with capacitive that you can't do with resistive... Did I miss something? It seems the only benefit to capacitive is that it can be more durable, and accidental touches are all but eliminated. What scenario can you use capacitive for that you can't use resistive for? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The Smedia Glamo 3362 Home page
I was looking into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Smedia_Glamo_3362, and noticed that http://www.smediatech.com/product3362.htm was gone. Then I tried http://www.smediatech.com and found out that smedia is gone. Was it acquired by this ITE Tech. Inc. company? could we asked them to open up their documentation? Cheers Juan -- You can never have a revolution in order to establish a democracy. You must have a democracy in order to have a revolution. -- No puedes hacer una revolución para establecer una democracia. Debes tener una democracia para poder tener una revolución. Gilbert Keith Chesterton (1874-1936) Tremendous Trifles--Wind and the trees ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
Which is exactly why resistive can use fingers too. :P Just noting, I find it ironic that you talk of multi-touch resistive as being an unfinished technology, in relation to the Freerunner. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to boot from the beta version of uSD MOKO11
arghh.. NOW I realised what went wrong!! I used the /dev/sdb1 instead of the /dev/sdb ... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/unable-to-boot-from-the-beta-version-of-uSD-MOKO11-tp2415457p2417771.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
Well, the _hardware_ parts of any version of the free-runner are pretty darn rigid, no apt-get update to those.. So, updating the resistive touch panel to multi-touch is undoable; however much effort is put in by the software developers... The software parts don't need to be so finished though, since we have plenty of developers to go around... Albeit; we also have a gazilion projects lying around.. :-P Best regards Anton On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Which is exactly why resistive can use fingers too. :P Just noting, I find it ironic that you talk of multi-touch resistive as being an unfinished technology, in relation to the Freerunner. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable
Yes, I do :( I think this is because not in every place gprs is available all the time. When connection is lost it does not recover. I think it is more of FSo problem than SHR. Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello community, unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart it manually. Does anyone else experience this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debia/LXDE] Sephora 0.2-1
Got some Problem after fresh Install of Debian.
Downloaded:
http://launchpad.net/sephora/0.2/0.2-0/+download/sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
and installed with: debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
results in:
debian-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
debian-gta02:~# sephora
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 1614, in module
main_window = MainWindow()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 110, in __init__
self.activateSectionPage(tabs[0])
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 170, in
activateSectionPage
tabs_widgets[name] = self.createSectionPage(name)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 186, in
createSectionPage
section = self.buildSectionPanel(name)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 218, in
buildSectionPanel
status = self.freerunner.getResource('GSM')
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 1154, in getResource
return resources.GetResourceState(resource)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__
return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in
__call__
**keywords)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in
call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method
GetResourceState with signature s
on interface org.freesmartphone.Usage doesn't exist
Additional Info:
debian-gta02:~# uname -r
2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Thanks for hints, Ueli
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Re: [Debia/LXDE] Sephora 0.2-1
I guess your/debian's fso-frameworkd and sephora versions don't match so that
the API has changed and one of them doesn't know that yet.
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Marcel
Am Tuesday 03 March 2009 22:43:06 schrieb ueli.pe...@bluewin.ch:
Got some Problem after fresh Install of Debian.
Downloaded:
http://launchpad.net/sephora/0.2/0.2-0/+download/sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
and installed with: debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i sephora_0.2-1_all.deb
results in:
debian-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
debian-gta02:~# sephora
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 1614, in
module main_window = MainWindow()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 110, in __init__
self.activateSectionPage(tabs[0])
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 170, in
activateSectionPage tabs_widgets[name] = self.createSectionPage(name)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 186, in
createSectionPage section = self.buildSectionPanel(name)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 218, in
buildSectionPanel status = self.freerunner.getResource('GSM')
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sephora.py, line 1154, in
getResource return resources.GetResourceState(resource)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in
__call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in
__call__ **keywords)
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in
call_blocking message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:
Method GetResourceState with signature s on interface
org.freesmartphone.Usage doesn't exist
Additional Info:
debian-gta02:~# uname -r
2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
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Re: AW: New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle
Just install them from openmoko repositories, then it works. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/ or experimental one. Btw. this app is really nice, I thought about some similar one - instead of line, rolling ball. Maybe in some free time.. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, I get the same error on SHR-unstable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Was: DBus Remote - missing package socat - for writing remote sms-tool
Bastian Muck schrieb: Hi all, I'm playing a little with DBus and JAVA. THe first communication just works fine. I heart, that it is possible to let the local DBus, in my case a PC, communicate with a remote DBus, in my case the Freerunner (what else?). That sounds very interesting :-) I'd greatly appreciate such an application. Unfortunately I haven't read about anybody accessing dbus remote-wise so far. Cheers, Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: I'll will look into preparing a recipe for it today or tomorrow and will let you know if I run into problems that are better solved on your side. Just finished a recipe for it. It was rather ugly to make sure every file installs at the right place. Ugly? Do you mean I put the files at the wrong places? If so (or sth else) please let me know what I should do to improve this. I would be glad if you would consider using distutils for one of the upcoming releases. Sure. I will do so. Anyway, I pushed it into OE and the autobuilder should pick it up in the next hours which makes it available in the feed for MS5. Let me know if there are problems. That's fantastic! I really appreciate your help on this, thanks! Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
I have started to mess with GNU/Linux with Gentoo, then I acomodate myself to Debian and Ubuntu but Gentoo always had place in my heart... I will give it a try as soon as I can. Really awesome and brave work guys. 2009/3/3 Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org: Sven Rebhan wrote: Hello everybody, We the gen...@openmoko team are pleased to announce that we reached our first milestone for running Gentoo on the Freerunner. So to all Gentoo lovers: Stop-by and get the experience the Gentoo feeling on your phone! Yay! My all-time favorite distro on my all-time favorite platform. You people rock! I will be testing it certainly. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the stable version. For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer I Totally agree with Tim, Risto has made a quick and awesome work in the same spirit FDOM was started. totally recomend Kustomizer for 0m2008.12 users ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
Is it possible for community to take up the development(improvement) of qt extended? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:54 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: it's a great toolkit for the desktop. a devastating compliment ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
Is it possible for community to take up the development(improvement) of qt extended? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Hi, I'm using xglamo (and LXDE) and I had trouble with right-click. The wiki page basically says to use/install libgtkstylus, and insert export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so into ~/.xsession. I did that, didn't work. However, I pondered this a bit and then went ahead and added that export line into ~/.bashrc (reasoning that that's where I'd usually export variables). Restarted X, and now right click works as it should (i.e. tap-and-hold) - desktop and panel menus, everything. Hope this helps; if it does let me know and I'll edit the wiki. Tina On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:46 +0100 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: The new version works fine here. :) I think there were some issues with fbdev vs. xglamo or so, maybe you could check the wiki page Renda already mentioned... -- Marcel Am Tuesday 24 February 2009 14:14:08 schrieb kimaidou: Thanks for your help I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted. Any application for testing the right-click ? thanks 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 with this Option Device/dev/input/event1 In the same section add this option: Option EmulateRightButton1 And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued
Indeed. http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/03/03/in-case-you-missed-it/ _ From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of HouYu Li Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued Is it possible for community to take up the development(improvement) of qt extended? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:54 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: it's a great toolkit for the desktop. a devastating compliment ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended It says some features will be migrated into Qt itself. I assume that means Nokia doesn't see a need for some of the low-level open-source phone-specific stuff (daemons etc), because they want to keep using their pre-existing versions instead? What about the applications? Is there a list of stuff that will be migrated and stuff that will disappear? It's good that it was at least GPLd prior to this, so whatever is worth saving can be merged into other projects. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
-Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Rutledge Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:34 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-exten ded It says some features will be migrated into Qt itself. I assume that means Nokia doesn't see a need for some of the low-level open-source phone-specific stuff (daemons etc), because they want to keep using their pre-existing versions instead? What about the applications? Is there a list of stuff that will be migrated and stuff that will disappear? No public list available, but probably none of the applications in Qt Extended will go into Qt. Just backend/classes kind of thing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: No public list available, but probably none of the applications in Qt Extended will go into Qt. Just backend/classes kind of thing. What about the ability to run Qt on a framebuffer as opposed to X? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
so much for my schedules. There were some issues with ALSA states. so manufacturing got put on hold. then Chinese new year. I'll have an update shortly on A7. Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Alexander Raab a écrit : Hi, I'm thinking about getting a Freerunner. But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? And whats about the GTA03? Would it be sold this year, next year or ... best regards Alex In a mail from Steve Mosher (VP Marketing) on 2009/02/1st he wrote : -- Feb 2-9: final alsa states for A7 are developed and tested and signed off. Feb 9-16: Phones at the factory are flashed. Feb 16-23: Ship to Disty. Those are not official dates agreed to by everyone working the issue, but I suspect they are close. When will it get to you? That's hard to say. I would expect some disty will try to be the first with A7 phones and will start their order process as the TPE returns for work on 2/2. -- About GTA03 I think almost nobody is working on it, it's just a draft (a wiki page ?), am I wrong ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
2009/3/4 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Hi fellows, Where are the resources of those maps? Well, I mean the data of map? Where does it comes from? I found that map of euro is much more clear, compared to my location. it comes from openstreetmap.org , a free (as in speech, and beer) map of the world. some parts have better coverage than others - maybe you would like to help the effort and map your local area? see: openstreetmap.org wiki.openstreetmap.org for more info ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: No public list available, but probably none of the applications in Qt Extended will go into Qt. Just backend/classes kind of thing. What about the ability to run Qt on a framebuffer as opposed to X? Qt Embedded is still being developed. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS: CFG-PRT, port #3 is enabled by default, power consumption?
Here is the results of polling CFG PRT (0X06 0X00): (1) port #1 (id = 0x00)-- 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 (2) port #2 (id = 0x01)-- 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x00 0xd0 0x08 0x08 0x00 0x80 0x25 0x00 0x00 0x07 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 (3) port #3 (id = 0x02)-- 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0xd0 0x08 0x08 0x00 0x00 0x96 0x00 0x00 0x07 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 (4) port #4 (id = 0x03)-- 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 Also, note that both NEMA and UBX binary are enabled on port #4 -- in and out protocols. GPS receiver continue sending messages to a port on which NEMA is enabled. Is this true when the port is not assigned a serial port device (say, /dev/ttySACx)? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS%3A-CFG-PRT%2C-port--3-is-enabled-by-default%2C-power-consumption--tp2418772p2418772.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh 0.5 out
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 13:15 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/3/4 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Hi fellows, Where are the resources of those maps? Well, I mean the data of map? Where does it comes from? I found that map of euro is much more clear, compared to my location. it comes from openstreetmap.org , a free (as in speech, and beer) map of the world. some parts have better coverage than others Yeah, Risto H. Kurppa pointed out http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page After checking this, I'm much clear about where these data comes from. Apparently, Shanghai(China) doesn't have much data as Euro :( - maybe you would like to help the effort and map your local area? I would like to after I check following sites and know how to contribute. I will upload data where I'm familiar with, especially Hangzhou, the beautiful west lake :) see: openstreetmap.org wiki.openstreetmap.org for more info -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Hello. On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 23:33, Onen wrote: Stefan Schmidt wrote: I'll will look into preparing a recipe for it today or tomorrow and will let you know if I run into problems that are better solved on your side. Just finished a recipe for it. It was rather ugly to make sure every file installs at the right place. Ugly? Do you mean I put the files at the wrong places? If so (or sth else) please let me know what I should do to improve this. No worries, once you use distutils it will take care about installing them at the right place and I can use this in the recipe. Until then this solution should work fine. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
xChris wrote: Is there any future plan for the QTcreator to produce Qt extended applications? Only if someone in the community adds this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that. Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12 annoyingly works fine with it. Alternatively search the wiki about Sim card issues -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?
Adam Jimerson wrote: 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes. 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my freerunner but I can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and distro only delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after flashing it. Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old? Tried the new SHR testing? I will give SHR Testing a try First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page there is one concern and a question On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues Address Book SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work is in progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some consequences on daily use: * Only contacts on the SIM card are available. * It is not possible to import a Vcard file. o It seems to be possible with this gopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gz script written by Zem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts. None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that can read Vcards so I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my MicroSD card, into SHR? this is unlikely to work for the time being I suspect. I know it is possible to transfer contacts to a 2008.12 distro with the qtopia/x11 stack because I have done it, and with a few thoughts i could write a how to but :-/ Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended
Lorn Potter wrote: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended That's very sad. :( *resists the urge to shout very loud abuse* -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-Unstable] Bluetooth won't connect
Hi, I'm afraid I have to appeal to the community for help... :P I'm trying to use Remoko with my Linux laptop, but I can't get the dumb thing to pair. I'm scanning with `hcitool scan` which works, and I get the address of my FR. However, when I `hidd --connect xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx` I get Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused That sounds like the FR is refusing the connection, so how do I make it accept me? :( -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] kernel upgrade and touchscreen input problems
All, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade today, and got the 2.6.28 kernel installed in the process. The FR still boots with the 2.6.24 kernel it had before. So I wrote the 2.6.28 kernel to /dev/mtdblock3. Unfortunately, I get RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294908494/600 jiffies) and a traceback, and then it fails to setup usb0 so I can't log in that way. But it does boot. I also had to apt-get install fso-config-gta02; otherwise I don't have a /etc/frameworkd.conf. Under either the 2.6.24 kernel or the 2.6.28 kernel, I still have problems: The AUX brings up the keyboard, so that's good. When the screen goes dim, a tap of the screen brings the backlight back up, but it won't register the taps on the icons or the keyboard, or the lock screen. The Xorg log shows: (EE) PreInit returned NULL for Configured Touchscreen Any suggestions? Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram retrac...@gmail.com `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The draft of 13th community updates
Sven Rebhan ??: Thanks you for bringing this up! Community will be happy to learn this news from the community updates which I have updated it just now. Brenda Please also consider to mention the Gentoo distribution! Mail sent to the Mailing list can be found here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043143.html Best regards, Sven, in the name of the gen...@openmoko team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo
2009/3/4 roguem...@roguewrt.org: I'm waiting for the NetBSD+pkgsrc annoucement :) Isn't it possible to run Gentoo with a BSD kernel!? :-P /me runs and hides ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The draft of 13th community updates
2009/3/4 Brenda Wang brenda_w...@openmoko.com: I have updated it just now. Perfect! Thanks! Sven, in the name of the gen...@openmoko team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
