Re: apt sources latest qtmoko

[Radek Polak]

On Thursday 01 April 2010 18:13:30 Alfa21-mobile wrote:

> btw... if possible, why not include qtmoko in real debian tree? (like fso
> do?)

It should be possible but it would require a lot of work.

First of all - as far as i know Debian prefers native compiling. Compiling on 
the device takes a lot of time (days?) if it's even possible. Our build system 
if targeted for cross compiling.

Second problem could be QT. I dont know if the QT in debian supports running 
on framebuffer. Now we bundle framebuffer enabled QT with Qtopia. This works 
quite good because the QT is at fixed version which we know that it works. 
Running with older/newer QT's need to be tested and any old/new bugs in those 
QT version have to be fixed.

So the answer is - yes, it should be possible, but it's unlikely to happen 
unless someone with good skills and a lot of time jumps in.

Regards

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Chuck Norris  wrote:
> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
> interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
> sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
> "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
> creating it?


literki tested with shr-20100306 running illume2 keyboard set to none.
fullscreen does not crash the phone.

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Chuck Norris]

Chuck Norris пишет:
> Timo Juhani Lindfors пишет:
>   
>> Chuck Norris  writes:
>>   
>> 
>>> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
>>> 
>>>   
>> With xcompmgr and transset you can make any window transparent. This
>> works for example with the xvkbd keyboard.
>>
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cannot force bitbake to compile xvkbd. This keyboard uses xmkmf for
creation Makefile. So I don't know how to run xmkmf properly in bb
recipe...

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Chuck Norris]

Timo Juhani Lindfors пишет:
> Chuck Norris  writes:
>   
>> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
>> 
>
> With xcompmgr and transset you can make any window transparent. This
> works for example with the xvkbd keyboard.
>
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xvkbd is nice. I'll try to make it transparent with transset.

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Chuck Norris]

ri...@happyleptic.org пишет:
> Here is, I think, exactly what you ask for :
>
> http://gitorious.org/kbosd
>
> Easy to use, easy to hack.
>
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Thanx :)

But it's not exactly what I need. Keys of that keyboard are not
transparent as I saw. Also keyboard must determine portrait/landscape
and resize to whole screen(but it can be coded).

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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Adam Jimerson  wrote:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pfqKNbzh6AIrRh1HhR2HyQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCNj1tKmli4afRA&feat=directlink
> Please no one get mad at me for pointing out the obvious joke in the SHR-U
> build.

ha ha ha

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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[William Kenworthy]

Nooo!

Neat! - thx - I wonder it caused any heart attacks :)

BillK


On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 21:35 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> Ok for those who have not upgraded their freerunners, or can't and
> want to know about the joke here is a screen shot
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pfqKNbzh6AIrRh1HhR2HyQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCNj1tKmli4afRA&feat=directlink
> 
> Please no one get mad at me for pointing out the obvious joke in the
> SHR-U build.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Adam Jimerson 
> wrote:
> Well I am working on getting my FR update to date to figure
> this out as well, I haven't done an upgrade on it for months
> so currently reflashing.  Speaking of reflashing (sorry to
> hijack this thread a little) but what is up with the Illume2
> SHR option?
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Kenworthy
>  wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 07:19 -0700, jeremy jozwik
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck
>  wrote:
> > > Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was
> black (locked).. I
> > > tapped it.. and that image was very very
> scary.. ;)
> > >
> > > April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it
> change with the an update
> > > tomorrow? :P
> >
> > make sure to screen grab it first!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Not using shr-u, can someone post a screen grab so we
> can share the
> joke!
> 
> :)
> BillK
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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[William Kenworthy]

I tried illume2 when it first came out and it shows promise but was
quite broken - keyboard issues and window nesting(wrong/lost focus)
amongst various things so it was suggested not to use it.  There have
been a lot of updates since then so I am not sure of current status
(shr-t or shr-u)

Perhaps someone who knows can comment?

BillK



On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 21:20 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> Well I am working on getting my FR update to date to figure this out
> as well, I haven't done an upgrade on it for months so currently
> reflashing.  Speaking of reflashing (sorry to hijack this thread a
> little) but what is up with the Illume2 SHR option?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Kenworthy 
> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 07:19 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck
>  wrote:
> > > Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black
> (locked).. I
> > > tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
> > >
> > > April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with
> the an update
> > > tomorrow? :P
> >
> > make sure to screen grab it first!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Not using shr-u, can someone post a screen grab so we can
> share the
> joke!
> 
> :)
> BillK
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Adam Jimerson]

Ok for those who have not upgraded their freerunners, or can't and want to
know about the joke here is a screen shot
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pfqKNbzh6AIrRh1HhR2HyQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCNj1tKmli4afRA&feat=directlink

Please no one get mad at me for pointing out the obvious joke in the SHR-U
build.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Adam Jimerson  wrote:

> Well I am working on getting my FR update to date to figure this out as
> well, I haven't done an upgrade on it for months so currently reflashing.
> Speaking of reflashing (sorry to hijack this thread a little) but what is up
> with the Illume2 SHR option?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 07:19 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck 
>> wrote:
>> > > Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
>> > > tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
>> > >
>> > > April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
>> > > tomorrow? :P
>> >
>> > make sure to screen grab it first!
>> >
>>
>>
>> Not using shr-u, can someone post a screen grab so we can share the
>> joke!
>>
>> :)
>> BillK
>>
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[William Kenworthy]

I think first someone who knows how should fix the standard keyboard in
landscape - that ones been there since  almost forever :(

BillK


On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 20:12 +0200, Martix wrote:
> What about creating new fullscreen keyboard profile for illume? My
> idea is huge keyboard in landscape display mode with single line
> upwards for text input.
> 
> 2010/4/1 Chuck Norris :
> > I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> > of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> > application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
> > interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
> > sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
> > "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
> > creating it?
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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Adam Jimerson]

Well I am working on getting my FR update to date to figure this out as
well, I haven't done an upgrade on it for months so currently reflashing.
Speaking of reflashing (sorry to hijack this thread a little) but what is up
with the Illume2 SHR option?

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 07:19 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck 
> wrote:
> > > Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
> > > tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
> > >
> > > April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
> > > tomorrow? :P
> >
> > make sure to screen grab it first!
> >
>
>
> Not using shr-u, can someone post a screen grab so we can share the
> joke!
>
> :)
> BillK
>
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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[William Kenworthy]

On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 07:19 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck  wrote:
> > Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
> > tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
> >
> > April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
> > tomorrow? :P
> 
> make sure to screen grab it first!
> 


Not using shr-u, can someone post a screen grab so we can share the
joke!

:)
BillK




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Re: src > bitbake > ipkg

[Martin Jansa]

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:58:45PM +0200, pike wrote:
> Hi
> 
> >> Bear with me :-) The bitbake recipe refers to the ipk ?
> > 
> > bitbake recipe is "build description" which instructs bitbake how to
> > create correct .ipk or .dep or .rpm or whatever from "source archive".
> > 
> > In thone case it's "repackaging" your scripts.
> >
> 
> Thanks for being clear here. I thought long
> and deep about this, and, read a manual :-)

> Probably the bitbake recipe is more complicated
> than the ipk it creates, but I guess that doesnt
> matter on your side - you need the recipe, not
> the bread.

So can I push the recipe for 0.6 as is and then improve it with next
version? I would like to.. as I'm leaving tomorrow for few days..

And it's pretty simple
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/196533/

but those 'cp' aren't good practise as you cannot easily adjust ie file
permissions as install call does..

> For now, I'll try hosting the ipkg myself;
> based on the one you created.

> A question: why is that file different than
> the ipkg  described by QTopia
> http://qtextended.org/modules/developers/qtopia.php?linkFile=developers/IPKG_Howto
> or even here
> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BuildingIpkgs
> In these descriptions, the control directory is
> a directory, not a file.

I never used ipkg-build manually, I guess that CONTROL is only temporary
file and CONTROL/control is what is packed in .ipk as control, so the
same.. but as I said before, I never used it manualy and I'm not .ipk
format expert :).

> just curious,
> *-pike

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src > bitbake > ipkg

[pike]

Hi

>> Bear with me :-) The bitbake recipe refers to the ipk ?
> 
> bitbake recipe is "build description" which instructs bitbake how to
> create correct .ipk or .dep or .rpm or whatever from "source archive".
> 
> In thone case it's "repackaging" your scripts.
>

Thanks for being clear here. I thought long
and deep about this, and, read a manual :-)

Probably the bitbake recipe is more complicated
than the ipk it creates, but I guess that doesnt
matter on your side - you need the recipe, not
the bread.

For now, I'll try hosting the ipkg myself;
based on the one you created.

A question: why is that file different than
the ipkg  described by QTopia
http://qtextended.org/modules/developers/qtopia.php?linkFile=developers/IPKG_Howto
or even here
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BuildingIpkgs

In these descriptions, the control directory is
a directory, not a file.

just curious,
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TclFltk 1.0.195 Released for Openmoko Phones

[Iain B. Findleton]

A new release of this GUI development environment has been placed on the
sourceforge site. This release cleans up a lot of minor bugs, runs
somewhat faster, implements sound feedback for actions on the touch
sensitive screen, and implements an additional rendering scheme that
delivers a gtk like appearance to applications.

I have also put a couple of demo applications, an image viewer and an
accelerometer application, that
have been updated to use sound feedback and some other functional
improvements.

See http://sourceforge.net/projects/fltkwish for the list of files and
downloads.

Send comments or complaints to me at ifindle...@no-spam-videotron.ca

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Re: [QTMoko] Debian packages for v19 (was: apt sources latest qtmoko)

[rixed]

-[ Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:37:59PM +0200, Vincent Meurisse ]
> Don't forget to backup your data before updating.

BTW is there a procedure documented somewhere on how to proceed
to backup all contact datas + history + installed packages etc ?


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[QTMoko] Debian packages for v19 (was: apt sources latest qtmoko)

[Vincent Meurisse]

On Thursday 01 April 2010 15:01:36 alfa21 wrote:
> why in apt sources i can only find v15?
> is qtmoko.meurisse.org the right one to use in debian?
The simple reason is that I've been quite busy lately and never found the time 
to update it. Moreover, as the version on my phone is working quite well, and 
as my neo became my primary phone, I feel less like messing with my phone.

The other reason is that the script to build the packages is really a peace of 
crap. It's only unziping the binary archive to repackage it in a debian 
package. I tried to make proper debian package from source but I never got it 
working.

I created the package for the v19 but I have absolutely no time to test it 
before the WE. I hope it will not break your phone. Don't forget to backup 
your data before updating. The url for testing is . 
Any feedback (good or bad) would be appreciated.
I will test the update myself over the WE and move the packages to 
 if everything is fine.

PS: I will be more than happy to see qtmoko in the standard debian tree. 
However one as to create real packages building from source to see it 
happening.
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Michael Smith]

On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:51:57 +0700
Chuck Norris  wrote:

> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
> interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
> sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
> "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
> creating it?

I built my own bigger keyboards. The source repo is here:

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/summary
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

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-[ Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:28:00PM -0700, jeremy jozwik ]
> > http://gitorious.org/kbosd
> 
> is that link down? its been taking some time to load at my workplace.

Gitorious is slow at time (it's a ruby on rail thing).


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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Petr Vanek]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:28:00 -0700
jeremy jozwik  (JJ) wrote:

>On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM,   wrote:
>> Here is, I think, exactly what you ask for :
>> http://gitorious.org/kbosd
>> Easy to use, easy to hack.
>
>is that link down? its been taking some time to load at my workplace.


works here, try git directly:

git clone git://gitorious.org/kbosd/kbosd.git

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM,   wrote:
> Here is, I think, exactly what you ask for :
> http://gitorious.org/kbosd
> Easy to use, easy to hack.

is that link down? its been taking some time to load at my workplace.

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[rixed]

Here is, I think, exactly what you ask for :

http://gitorious.org/kbosd

Easy to use, easy to hack.


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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Chuck Norris  writes:
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing

With xcompmgr and transset you can make any window transparent. This
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Martix]

What about creating new fullscreen keyboard profile for illume? My
idea is huge keyboard in landscape display mode with single line
upwards for text input.

2010/4/1 Chuck Norris :
> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
> interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
> sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
> "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
> creating it?
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[pike]

Hi

> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing

Fatfingershell.

But as the name implies, that's a shell.

Obviously, if there is screen interactivity
allowed in the application where you'd need
the keyboard (I mean, if it has buttons), you'll
have problems overlaying it with a transparent
keyboard.

Which can be solved. I'm curious what you
have in mind. Yes, I'd love it.

$2c,
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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Michele Brocco  wrote:
> btw the bug was in enlightenment not illume:

i really really really wish this annoyance was fixed. i loath the
default keyboard, but i hate crashing phones more.

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Michele Brocco]

btw the bug was in enlightenment not illume:

http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/398

On 4/1/10, Michele Brocco  wrote:
> there was literki which was a similar approach and I loved it.
> However, there was some illume bug that prevented to open any
> application in fullscreen. Thats why I stopped using it. So if u
> manage to overcome that issues I would be pleased to use that :p
>
> Maybe u can take a look at literki to grab some ideas or go on
> extending that one instead of building one from scratch.
>
> On 4/1/10, Chuck Norris  wrote:
>> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
>> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
>> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
>> interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
>> sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
>> "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
>> creating it?
>>
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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 01-04-2010 14:38, Thomas Franck escreveu:
> Hi..
> 
>> Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards.
> 
> Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
> tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
> 
> April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
> tomorrow? :P

Oh I sure hope so! My first thought was:

.oO( OMG, they killed SHR! You bastards! )  ;)

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Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Michele Brocco]

there was literki which was a similar approach and I loved it.
However, there was some illume bug that prevented to open any
application in fullscreen. Thats why I stopped using it. So if u
manage to overcome that issues I would be pleased to use that :p

Maybe u can take a look at literki to grab some ideas or go on
extending that one instead of building one from scratch.

On 4/1/10, Chuck Norris  wrote:
> I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
> of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
> application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
> interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
> sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
> "a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
> creating it?
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fullscreen transparent keyboard

[Chuck Norris]

I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead
of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know
application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing
interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created
sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends
"a" to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue
creating it?

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Re: apt sources latest qtmoko

[Alfa21-mobile]

> I am doing just jffs2/tar.gz images. I dont enough time to create and maintain
> .deb packages. You can try to ask Vicent to include more recent packages. Or
> someone else wants to do it?


if you (qtmoko devs) tell me which is the right path to follow or
better if you can give an initial script to generate the .deb package
I could do this for you.
btw... if possible, why not include qtmoko in real debian tree? (like fso do?)

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Re: apt sources latest qtmoko

[alfa21]

On Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:35:27, Radek Polak wrote:
> On Thursday 01 April 2010 15:01:36 alfa21 wrote:
> > hello,
> > I've qtmoko v19 on my gta02 now (was shr), it's very rensponsive and i like
> > it. :)
> 
> thanks :)
> 
> > just a question:
> > 
> > why in apt sources i can only find v15?
> > is qtmoko.meurisse.org the right one to use in debian?
> 
> I am doing just jffs2/tar.gz images. I dont enough time to create and 
> maintain 
> .deb packages. You can try to ask Vicent to include more recent packages. Or 
> someone else wants to do it?
> 
> > kind regards!
> > ps: writing emails in qtmoko messages, if you touch the text to move the
> > cursor (or select words), you loose the keyboard and it's impossible to
> > edit again! :(
> 
> Hmm strange - i believe this was fixed. Do you see the white triangle for 
> changing input methods in right upper corner?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Radek
> 
>

no,
i've tried with any kind of keyboard...
and it's always the same... also the button on the bottom side of the screen 
goes away :p
you can go back and if u resume from drafts u get the keyboard again.
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Re: apt sources latest qtmoko

[Radek Polak]

On Thursday 01 April 2010 15:01:36 alfa21 wrote:
> hello,
> I've qtmoko v19 on my gta02 now (was shr), it's very rensponsive and i like
> it. :)

thanks :)

> just a question:
> 
> why in apt sources i can only find v15?
> is qtmoko.meurisse.org the right one to use in debian?

I am doing just jffs2/tar.gz images. I dont enough time to create and maintain 
.deb packages. You can try to ask Vicent to include more recent packages. Or 
someone else wants to do it?

> kind regards!
> ps: writing emails in qtmoko messages, if you touch the text to move the
> cursor (or select words), you loose the keyboard and it's impossible to
> edit again! :(

Hmm strange - i believe this was fixed. Do you see the white triangle for 
changing input methods in right upper corner?

Regards

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RE: MC Navi

[Russell Dwiggins]

|
|Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
|available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

US, please :)
|
|Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
|Just to know, what to do next...
|

Car first, outdoor second (does off-road qualify?)
 
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Re: shr-launcher updated

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Petr Vanek  wrote:
> i am on illume 1

nevermind then!

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Re: MC Navi

[Chuck Norris]

01.04.2010 15:31, Mike Crash пишет:
> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
>
> Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
> Just to know, what to do next...
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>   
Hi, Mike!
Country - russia
prefer - outdoor


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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Thomas Franck  wrote:
> Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
> tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)
>
> April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
> tomorrow? :P

make sure to screen grab it first!

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Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Thomas Franck]

Hi..

> Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards.

Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I
tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;)

April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update
tomorrow? :P

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Re: [Shr-User] Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Jakob]

Hihi ;)
Nice one :P

On 4/1/10, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Slowly but constantly we manage to fix the breakages we did to your phones
> in
> the last weeks :P (sorry for that btw.)
>
> There are some good fixes in the shr-unstable feed which should enable you
> again to use your beloved FR as phone again :-)
>
> Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards.
>
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Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it.
> In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I
> checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use
> Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery.
I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about
8~10 hours with Android - current "featured" release.

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Re: MC Navi

[Patryk Benderz]

Dnia 2010-04-01, czw o godzinie 00:31 -0800, Mike Crash pisze:
> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
Hi Mike,
Poland please :)
> 
> Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
> Just to know, what to do next...
Definitely car
Additionally it would be great if MCNavi would read Cloudmade's maps
binary format. Or generally some vector based map format.

Thanks for your great work, and keep going on!

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apt sources latest qtmoko

[alfa21]

hello,
I've qtmoko v19 on my gta02 now (was shr), it's very rensponsive and i like it. 
:) 

just a question:

why in apt sources i can only find v15?
is qtmoko.meurisse.org the right one to use in debian?

kind regards!
ps: writing emails in qtmoko messages, if you touch the text to move the cursor 
(or select words), you loose the keyboard and it's impossible to edit again! :(
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Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann]

Hey all,

Slowly but constantly we manage to fix the breakages we did to your phones in 
the last weeks :P (sorry for that btw.)

There are some good fixes in the shr-unstable feed which should enable you 
again to use your beloved FR as phone again :-)

Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards.

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Re: ffalarms 0.4 -- snoozing by double click, but no puzzle!

[Łukasz Pankowski]

Vladimir Berezenko  writes:

> В Птн, 26/03/2010 в 00:38 +0100, Łukasz Pankowski пишет:
>
>> I have just released new ffalarms 0.4
>
> I've found a "feature". 8( If an alarm window is closed unexpectedly
> (i.e. someone just pressed the [X]) the alarm stays ringing forever.

Not really, you have to open ffalarms and from Options select
Acknowledge then and the window will appear (the window will only appear
when the alarm is playing, but not when it is snoozing).

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Re: shr-launcher updated

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:07:50 -0700
jeremy jozwik  (JJ) wrote:

>On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Petr Vanek  wrote:
>> not sure how for others, but for me the bottom application icon list
>> has not been visible for some weeks now, even in the latest ipk...
>> am i missing something?
>
>might have something to do with the new illum2 reconfiguration?


i am on illume 1

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Re: MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

Yes, it is compatible with 2.90, just uncomment in mgps.h

#define GPSD_API_19 1

I will attempt to autodetect gpsd version, but it seems the version
number in gps.h is the same as in previous version, so currently I don't
know how

Mike


On 1.4.2010 11:17, Martin Jansa [via Openmoko Public Mailinglists] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:31:12AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
>>
>> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make
> maps
>> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you
> need?
> 
> Hi, is new version compatible with gpsd-2.90?
> mcnavi is failing to build in shr feeds for almost a month :/
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commun...@.../msg58389.html
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Re: MC Navi released

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Re: MC Navi

[Sander van Grieken]

On Thursday 01 April 2010 10:31:12 Mike Crash wrote:
> 
> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
> 
> Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
> Just to know, what to do next...

Netherlands, car please :)


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Re: ffalarms 0.4 -- snoozing by double click, but no puzzle!

[Vladimir Berezenko]

В Птн, 26/03/2010 в 00:38 +0100, Łukasz Pankowski пишет:

> I have just released new ffalarms 0.4

I've found a "feature". 8( If an alarm window is closed unexpectedly
(i.e. someone just pressed the [X]) the alarm stays ringing forever.

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Re: Thone 0.5

[pike]

Hi


>> In short, wow thanks, but please don't, yet.
> It's your call, but I don't see any disadvantage of having thone in
> shr feeds. Let me know if you change your mind.

Thanks, but I'll get back to you.
Want to fix your error first :-)

> Steps used here:
> thone
> sms 
>> sms grep: /home/root/.thone/ppl.cache/*ppl: No such file or directory

that's fixed in 0.6

>> sms list
> * updating sms.cache..
> /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed: 
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError

that's not.

I'll be back,
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Re: MC Navi

[Martin Jansa]

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:31:12AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
> 
> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Hi, is new version compatible with gpsd-2.90?
mcnavi is failing to build in shr feeds for almost a month :/

http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58389.html

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Re: MC Navi

[Al Johnson]

On Thursday 01 April 2010, Mike Crash wrote:
> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

I use Cloudmade's europe.navit.bin at the moment. It's 1.2GB but the flash 
card is big enough, and I'm unlikely to be caught with the wrong map.
 
> Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
> Just to know, what to do next...

Car, cycling and walking, in roughly equal measures. 

> Thanks
> 
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Re: MC Navi

[Risto H. Kurppa]

Finland, car

Thanks!!

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Re: Thone 0.5

[Martin Jansa]

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:40:26AM +0200, pike wrote:
> Hi
> 
> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone
> > I'm not going to host that .ipk.. but add recipe to shr and it will be
> > in SHR feeds as any other app :). 
> 
> Bear with me :-) The bitbake recipe refers to the ipk ?

bitbake recipe is "build description" which instructs bitbake how to
create correct .ipk or .dep or .rpm or whatever from "source archive".

In thone case it's "repackaging" your scripts.
 
> In either case, it's probably better to wait for
> a bit more stable version, or find a way for me to
> fix bugs upstream.

In case you relase newer version, recipe update is task for few sec.
Than all shr users get updated version with opkg upgrade (which they
have to check and download manually in case your .tgz).

> In short, wow thanks, but please don't, yet.

It's your call, but I don't see any disadvantage of having thone in
shr feeds. Let me know if you change your mind.

> > BTW: in 0.5
> > * updating sms.cache..
> > /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed:
> > org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError
> > 
> > is it something fixed in 0.6 already? (I'll try in few minutes..)
>  >
> 
> I don't think so - never seen it.
> Let me check if I can repeat it.

Steps used here:
thone
sms 
> sms grep: /home/root/.thone/ppl.cache/*ppl: No such file or directory
grep: /home/root/.thone/ppl.cache/*ppl: No such file or directory

config  helplistreadwrite
> sms list
* updating sms.cache..
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed: 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError

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Re: MC Navi

[Vladimir Berezenko]

В Чтв, 01/04/2010 в 00:31 -0800, Mike Crash пишет:

> Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
> available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Russia plz. I've tried to convert the map myself but on my quad G5 with
4.5Gb of RAM it segfaulted during the sorting ways process.

> Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
> Just to know, what to do next...

car navigation.

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Re: Thone 0.5

[pike]

Hi

>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone
> I'm not going to host that .ipk.. but add recipe to shr and it will be
> in SHR feeds as any other app :). 

Bear with me :-) The bitbake recipe refers to the ipk ?

In either case, it's probably better to wait for
a bit more stable version, or find a way for me to
fix bugs upstream.

In short, wow thanks, but please don't, yet.

> BTW: in 0.5
> * updating sms.cache..
> /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError
> 
> is it something fixed in 0.6 already? (I'll try in few minutes..)
 >

I don't think so - never seen it.
Let me check if I can repeat it.


thanks!
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MC Navi

[Mike Crash]

Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
Just to know, what to do next...

Thanks

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Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)

[Noel]

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Martin Šenkeřík
 wrote:
> I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried
> "everything", and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a
> try.

Thanks. It looks much faster and nicer then what I've tried so far.
It's too soon to talk about how stable it is.

Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it.
In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I
checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use
Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery.

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Re: Thone 0.5

[Martin Jansa]

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:29:47AM +0200, pike wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone
> 
> > I have .ipk now
> > http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/thone_0.5-r0.4_all.ipk
> 
> Cool! Thanks!
> 
> Now, as was to be expected, I fixed some bugs
> and upped a new version, 0.6 .. with a different
> url ..  wouldnt it be easier if I hosted that ipk
> myself, on googlecode ?

I'm not going to host that .ipk.. but add recipe to shr and it will be
in SHR feeds as any other app :). If you want to reuse it for other
distributions, feel free to add link to shr feeds or redistribute it
from googlecode.

I'll update recipe to 0.6 and add it to feed (probably today).

> .. so i was trying to untarzip your ipk file
> to see if I could update it but it gives
> "tar: invalid tar magic". isnt it a tarzip ?

it's 'ar', ar -x would do right magic

> I'm wondering how to proceed. Never done this.
> Given the way .ipk works, I dont see the need
> for a makefile.

With makefile it would be easier to install files to other locations
easily (like readme to /usr/share/doc) etc.. but it's not a big issue so
if you don't see the need, OK :).

> > BTW: Haven't seen your real name to fill AUTHOR field properly.. but
> > nick will be enough if it is intentional  ;) .
> 
> Yeah, "pike" will do :-)

OK

BTW: in 0.5
* updating sms.cache..
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError

is it something fixed in 0.6 already? (I'll try in few minutes..)

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