Re: OpenMoko Challenges

Quoting Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 09:48 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean, I'd like to add my voice in support of your decision to delay the hardware. I've been in situations like this, and I appreciate the difficulty of making this decision. From my experience

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sean, I'd like to add my voice in support of your decision to delay the hardware. I've been in situations like this, and I appreciate the difficulty of making this decision. From my experience, I believe you've made the right choice, and I fully support you and your

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

Quoting Pedro Aguilar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, I understand the problems that could happen when developing embedded devices, so I appreciate that you're sincere and provide us the source code as a good (although not ideal) starting point. Glad you see this is what we're trying to do ;-) Tha

Re: Problems installing boost pkgs for OE (Was: Problems installing OE on Linux)

Thanks Sergio, I've added this to the recipe on the wiki. Michael On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Sergio Bessa wrote: Hi Ryan, I tried the following and have been able to install monotone. wget http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone_0.32-0.1_i386.deb sudo apt-get build-dep libboost-dev sudo

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

On 2/12/07, Alexandre Franke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/13/07, "Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenGL is in the driver/hardware(not sure which). OpenGL is an API. > SDL only provides a simple interface to it all. An interface to what? OpenGL + other things? Isn't it

Re: Problems installing boost pkgs for OE (Was: Problems installing OE on Linux)

Hi Ryan, I tried the following and have been able to install monotone. wget http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone_0.32-0.1_i386.deb sudo apt-get build-dep libboost-dev sudo apt-get install libboost-dev sudo apt-get build-dep libboost-date-time1.33.1 sudo apt-get install libboost-date

Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

Wouldn't it be hilarious if we finally find a USB power solution after spending many hours laboriously building a device only to find that Sean has decided to power the USB port. -ryan (always eager to add humor to the subject) ___ OpenMoko communi

Re: Worry about OE in VM on OSX?

The MacBook Pro is plenty powerful enough to handle what you're doing. Yup, and I've got two gigs of RAM. Now if you want to "bitbake world" then I'd recommend a 40 GB VM HD ... just to cover your bases. What is all this, "world" stuff. I've seen "hello world" also, is it like a system? Th

Worry about OE in VM on OSX?

On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Ryan Kline wrote: Thanks, I'm just being too lazy. Somewhat, but you're also learning. For most things, try google (or whatever your favorite search engine is) first, read through a few hits, and then if it's still confusing ask the list. Many of your non- o

Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

You do run the risk of looking a bit like a nerd with one of those and a few USB peripherals hanging off your phone though ;o) That's for sure :) We need a tiny single usb batterypowered adapter then... Would'nt it be the easier solution? ___ OpenMo

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

Ryan Kline writes: >What's wince? Do you know anything about Neo-Windows Mobile? Wince is Windows CE. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 05:22:43PM -0600, Ryan Kline wrote: > I read somewhere that the Neo will be able to boot Windows Mobile? I > probably wouldn't ever want to do this, but is it possible? If so, > how? It would be really, really, cool to see a dual boot phone. There was an original plan b

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

>there was an original plan by FIC (not OpenMoko) to also sell the same GTA01* hardware with Windows CE. That plan seems currently on halt, and apart from the same company being behind the hardware, there is no relation to Neo1973 or OpenMoko. Is that where this comes from: "Consistent with FI

Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

On Tuesday 13 February 2007 02:08, Florent THIERY wrote: > http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/CPH420MP.asp , available on Amazon > > There seem to be battery powered usb hubs > ** > *"Hub 420 MP* You do run the risk of looking a bit like a nerd with one of those and a few USB peripherals hanging off

Problems installing boost pkgs for OE (Was: Problems installing OE on Linux)

After trying to install OE, I concluded that I needed boost. I typed "sudo dselect" then went to "select" then tried to search "boost" but returned no results. Any help appreciated. -ryan P.S.-Sorry if I have been posting too much over the last few days, I have become engrossed in the proj

Windows Mobile on Neo?

>Thanks, I'm just being too lazy. Im pretty scared about this OE thing because I am running Linux on VMWare Beta, on my brand new 17" MacBook Pro...Should I be worried? Previous message was in reference to: > What's wince? >>Hi, You're pretty brave to try installing an OE environment as a first

Windows Mobile on Neo?

Thanks, I'm just being too lazy. Im pretty scared about this OE thing because I am running Linux on VMWare Beta, on my brand new 17" MacBook Pro...Should I be worried? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://l

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

On Tuesday 13 February 2007 01:01, Ryan Kline wrote: > What's wince? Hi, You're pretty brave to try installing an OE environment as a first experience with Linux. Don't expect it to work out the first time, if it does great, if not you'll have learned a lot, and you'll stand a better chance next

Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/CPH420MP.asp , available on Amazon There seem to be battery powered usb hubs ** *"Hub 420 MP* The latest product innovation from CyberPower Systems provides you with the ability to easily connect and power up to four USB devices without an ac power adapter. The

Re: (for joe) Problems Installing OE on Linux

Could I have a specific command to use. I am a new to this. On Feb 12, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Michael Dickens wrote: You need to install boost too. You can find it in dpkg, or apt- get, or dselect, or whatever. Just install what's available (all of them). - MLD On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Ryan

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

One way would be for FIC to supply an optional fatter replacement battery that included one extra 1.5v cell, a wifi dongle, and the necessary circuitry for charging the additional cell after the regular ones were full, and supplying the 3.3 / 5v outlets. Could another one be to use a wifi dong

Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

On Monday 12 February 2007 16:15, Nils Faerber wrote: > Richard Bennett schrieb: > > On Monday 12 February 2007 13:05, Nils Faerber wrote: > >> - not even counting in the extreme high power consumption it would > >> cause. I assume unless some genious invents a much higher efficient step > >> up co

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

On 2/13/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How well would it run without hardware acceleration? I'd appreciate hardware/software specs of the graphics device... From http://www.khronos.org/opengles/ : Although the OpenGL ES specification defines a particular graphics processing pi

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

Actually there is something called OpenGL ES (for Embedded Systems) which might come in handy. How well would it run without hardware acceleration? I'd appreciate hardware/software specs of the graphics device... Florent ___ OpenMoko community mail

Re: (for joe) Problems Installing OE on Linux

You need to install boost too. You can find it in dpkg, or apt-get, or dselect, or whatever. Just install what's available (all of them). - MLD On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Ryan Kline wrote: I am trying to install OE on Ubuntu 6.10 and I am having trouble installing monotone. I was told t

(for joe) Problems Installing OE on Linux

I am trying to install OE on Ubuntu 6.10 and I am having trouble installing monotone. I was told to ask Joe how he solved this problem: In the terminal, I type: wget http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone_0.32-0.1_i386.deb Which works fine, then: sudo dpkg --install

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

Am Dienstag, 13. Februar 2007 00:22 schrieb Ryan Kline: > > It would be really, really, cool to see a dual boot phone. > It's quite easy. Take some phone with preinstalled wince and boot linux off the SD card. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?

What's wince? Do you know anything about Neo-Windows Mobile? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

P2P Applications

Hi I have a few words to tell about P2P services; what i'll say comes from my experience in my country, but i'd bet it's the same almost everywhere. It is a fact that cellphones cannot (or shoudl'nt) communicate directly (if they can, this is a security issue); real P2P applications are excluded

Re: Ignore Behavior

* Joe Shmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070213 00:19]: >Most cell phones don't seem to handle this properly. > >When your phone has no signal, any calls go straight to voicemail. When >you don't answer your phone, calls go to voicemail after a pre-specified >number of rings (typically 5)

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

On 2/13/07, "Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OpenGL is in the driver/hardware(not sure which). OpenGL is an API. SDL only provides a simple interface to it all. An interface to what? OpenGL + other things? Isn't it what is called "built on top of"? And who would acctua

Re: Camera and MMS

Are others interested in this as well? You bet ! Vidéo mails, push-to-film (video push to talk), etc... The sky is the limit ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Camera and MMS

I can vouch for that, I would say 95% of cell-phone weilding kids in my grade have a camera on their phone and will expect a camera. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Camera and MMS

I know this has been discussed before, but I am trying to see how much interest there is in a camera. I never thought I would use it, but lately, I've found that I am using the camera much more often to take simple pictures and videos and send multimedia messages to friends. This seems like a st

Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Sorry to ask this, but which hardware features will finally be integrated in this version? - bluetooth? - wifi (you mentioned it)? Thanks for clearing up my mind :) Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists

Windows Mobile on Neo?

I read somewhere that the Neo will be able to boot Windows Mobile? I probably wouldn't ever want to do this, but is it possible? If so, how? It would be really, really, cool to see a dual boot phone. -ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list communit

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

On 00:12:47 2007-02-13 "Alexandre Franke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/12/07, Alan Ide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh - BTW, I know the other option is using SDL, but Im not > > particularly fluent in that either. > > > Anyway, isn't SDL built on top of OpenGL ? > No. SDL is a layer that

Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

On 2/12/07, Ryan Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have to be a developer to purchase in March? I am going to try to > learn GTK+, but I doubt I will call myself a developer by then. I probably wont be doing any serious developing for the phone, but will definitely be purchasing one wh

Ignore Behavior

Most cell phones don't seem to handle this properly. When your phone has no signal, any calls go straight to voicemail. When you don't answer your phone, calls go to voicemail after a pre-specified number of rings (typically 5). When someone calls and you want to ignore them (by pressing a butt

Boot mode: boot any computer on your openmoko device (storage mode?)

I would personally really like to be able to boot a computer on my linux phone, using a regular usb-miniusb cable. I know that USB boot isn't available on every computer in the same implementation, but nowaday's ones should. Woud it be possible, in file storage mode, or a dedicated boot mode, to

Re: OpenGL on the Neo1973??

On 2/12/07, Alan Ide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh - BTW, I know the other option is using SDL, but Im not particularly fluent in that either. Anyway, isn't SDL built on top of OpenGL ? -- Alexandre Franke GNU/Linux user #390077 ___ OpenMoko commun

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

On Monday 12 February 2007 14:26, picked up the following transmission from Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded: > Absolutely. There have been several discussions on this, and there > are efforts underway to create appropriate projects. I believe there > will be Java ME as well as J

Re: You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Salve Ryan! Sorry to confuse you ;) On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Ryan Kline wrote: > Sorry, I didn't understand. Where is FOSDEM? Brussels, Belgium, Europe ;) > I doubt I will be able > to attend any events unless they are in Dallas. I have too much going > on in school and I don't really feel lik

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Absolutely. There have been several discussions on this, and there are efforts underway to create appropriate projects. I believe there will be Java ME as well as Java SE ports. I personally will be involved in seeing the Java ME port along. Stay tuned. -- Terrence Martin Lefkowitz wrote: We ar

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Parallels is a virtualization environment. Once installed it gives you an black DOS screen in a OS X window, saying "Please insert boot disk". From there on it behaves like any PC so you can install any x86 OS you like. I have not yet tried to set up OE, but since you'll probably install Linux on

You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Sorry, I didn't understand. Where is FOSDEM? I doubt I will be able to attend any events unless they are in Dallas. I have too much going on in school and I don't really feel like I am part of the project. Thanks, ryan ___ OpenMoko community maili

Re: You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Salve Ryan! Ryan Kline schrieb am Montag, den 12. Februar 2007 um 14:54h: > Actually, I will wait. This is fine. ;) But I fear, you got me wrong. > I think I will wait. I do > understand that this community drinks, but I do not feel pressured to > do the same. >> and [when] you have somed

Re: You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

That does seem to make more sense. I guess I should have said, "I'll drink [juice] to that!" -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:07 PM, ROB wrote: Not that it matters all that much, but I think he was telling you that you didn't have to wait 8 years to "drink to the project" because you can always toa

OpenGL on the Neo1973??

Hello all, I have been reading the postings here for a few months, and up till now all my questions have been answered fairly well without having to post anything of my own. I had an idea for a program I wanted to contribute to the community, but had a quick question first. I mostly program in C

Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

On 2/12/07, Ryan Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have 845 people subscribed to this list who all support what you do 100%. Delays just make us want one more. >All interested developers can purchase Neos starting late March. Do you have to be a developer to purchase in March? I am going to t

You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Actually, I will wait. People who drink before they are 21 are 4 times more likely to become alcoholics, plus, I get 5,000 USD +Interest if I make it til I am 21. I think I will wait. I do understand that this community drinks, but I do not feel pressured to do the same. Thank you for comp

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'd like to check it out, and possibly write a recipe for setting up in this. Simplest: Setup the VM with Ubuntu 6.10; follow instructions on OpenMoko wiki. I don't think a special script will be very useful here since there isn't much (if anythin

Ideas for touchscreen interfaces

Here's a touchscreen mobile product that has a familiarish name and claims to be 'open', by which I think they mean 'has an API'. In any case, this page has ideas to consider for gestures: http://www.neonode.com/en-gb/Products/Neonode-N2/Neonode-N2-technology/U sing-Neno/ Sam Kome

You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

Salve Ryan! On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Ryan Kline wrote: > >>So I propose that all members of the Open Moko mailing lists may > have a > priority on purchassing a phone for testing/troubleshooting (of > course) if > theire is some devices left after develpppers. :):):) > > I'll drink to that (when

Re: Great ;) Re: Storage + Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

Hello. On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 19:38, Robert Michel wrote: > > So microSD cards with 4GB or more are based on SDHC, > and the SD standards are not so open that writing > drivers would be possible to everybody - right? The simplified SD sstandard also covers SDHC. Plain linux kernel already has SD

Great ;) Re: Storage + Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

Salve Harald! Harald Welte schrieb am Sonntag, den 11. Februar 2007 um 22:21h: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:05:03PM +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote: > > Any news on this? I'm not holding by breath for 4GB, but has 2GB been > > confirmed? > > Sandisk 2GB SDSDQU-2048-E10M works just fine. Thank you for

RE: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Hi Daniel, Great job going out and doing this, I'm sure that FIC will eventually move into merchandising some time in the future but great initiative (I also read how you got permission first so that's cool). If you are coming to www.BarCampUSA.org in August make sure you bring a ton of them to s

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 09:48 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sean, > > I'd like to add my voice in support of your decision to delay the hardware. > I've been in situations like this, and I appreciate the difficulty of making > this decision. From my experience, I believe you've made the right ch

Re: Cross-device compatibility

On Monday 12 February 2007 16:31, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: > On 2/10/07, Ulrik Rasmusen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I was wondering how much thought there's been put into making > > applications for > > OpenMoko compatible across different devices. Imagine in a couple of >

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

Sean, I'd like to add my voice in support of your decision to delay the hardware. I've been in situations like this, and I appreciate the difficulty of making this decision. From my experience, I believe you've made the right choice, and I fully support you and your team. I look forward with gre

Re: Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?

I am expressing my interest. Although, I'm getting to like Linux, it's only been a few minutes. On Feb 12, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Michael Dickens wrote: It is one of my goals to get OE running under OSX, in a fashion that is repeatable most of the time by most folks. That way one can do the wo

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote: You can also use Parallels Desktop for OS X at www.parallels.com. Works like a charm for me. -- Terrence Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'd like to check it out, and possibly write a recipe for setti

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Sounds like a question for Jon of Creative Commons. Jon, any advice here? Michael On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, ROB wrote: The solution to dilution via unlicensed use (ie: fan sites) is to give people explicit permission or a license to use the mark under certain circumstances for a certain purpose.

Re: Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?

It is one of my goals to get OE running under OSX, in a fashion that is repeatable most of the time by most folks. That way one can do the work on a PPC or Intel Mac, and not require a VM of any type. This would be -good-, though the VM concept and implementation is awesome IMHO. In doin

Re: OpenMoko as a trademark

On Monday 12 February 2007 08:18, picked up the following transmission from Joe Pfeiffer: > ROB writes: > >Just for the record, as a 'member of the community' or whatever, I > >don't like this. > > Speaking as the designer of the Mopar Mailing List logo (which > incorporates the old Chrysler Motor

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Ryan Kline wrote: I have looked at numerous websites and I am still very confused about what I need to write stuff for OpenMoko (Mostly UI). I use Mac OS X, and I don't have a whole lot of prior coding experience. I learn pretty quickly, though. Does anyone know of tuto

Re: Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?

Oh please do!! And while you are at it, could you make one for Linux, I just installed it. -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Michael, >> While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux shoul

Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?

Michael, >> While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux shouldn't we just join forces and craft an Installer package for getting OE installed directly on a Mac? IMHO, needing to install some VM and a full Linux one of the

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Parallels is $79, sometimes they run offers at $49. Money well spent IMO. It runs very well and increases my productivity greatly because I can run multiple OSes quickly and reliably. I believe they will shortly release a tool to convert with VMware images. I assume VMware will be a good option

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Gabriel Ambuehl writes: >On Monday 12 February 2007 17:18:35 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>I don't mind it a bit. One way >> corporations have destroyed an incredible amount of good-will in the >> past has been by trying to retain a too-tight control over their >> trademarks > >The problem with trademark

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Parallels isn't free, yes? The VMware fusion beta currently is ... of course, it's beta so its utility might not be that great; should be $99 once it's released (maybe beta testers can get a discount? I don't know). I actually use Parallels right now, though I need to try out the VMware b

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Guys, please don't make a long thread out of it. Since Daniel knew about our 200% load, Daniel wanted to surprise us with OpenMoko T-Shirts for FOSDEM, that's why he went forward and created them. He explicitly asked for the permission to use the logos and we agreed. I hope we (as in OpenMoko) wil

Re: New topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko

Hi, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: > What I would like to write: > -Graphically cool looking programs like video ringtones that have > some kind of really cool animation that plays when you get a call. > "video ringtones" are not programs - they are just video > animations. You can do them in

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

The solution to dilution via unlicensed use (ie: fan sites) is to give people explicit permission or a license to use the mark under certain circumstances for a certain purpose. On 2/12/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 17:18:35 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >I don

Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?

* Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070210 19:47]: > > >> > >>Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in > >>letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly > >>T-Zones walled garden. > > > >Let me guess. > >This contains such things as wea

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb: > On Monday 12 February 2007 17:18:35 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> I don't mind it a bit. One way >> corporations have destroyed an incredible amount of good-will in the >> past has been by trying to retain a too-tight control over their >> trademarks > The problem with tradema

RE: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Hey, like the shirts, esp the mug, think I might just have to get me one of those. How about a page on the wiki about the shirts/mugs?? Graham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Willmann Sent: 12 February 2007 03:59 To: community@lis

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

On Monday 12 February 2007 17:18:35 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >I don't mind it a bit. One way > corporations have destroyed an incredible amount of good-will in the > past has been by trying to retain a too-tight control over their > trademarks The problem with trademark law is that if you don't prote

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

You can also use Parallels Desktop for OS X at www.parallels.com. Works like a charm for me. -- Terrence Michael Dickens wrote: VMWare does not support OS X. They have a beta for Intel-Mac OSX. Nothing for PPC Mac though. Expect a full release this summer, with all the great features of t

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

> What is Python? A scripting language. Much like perl, or bash/sh/csh/tcsh scripts - or AppleScipt if you've done that. Or MATLAB. That's great ! I didn't know there was python involved in openmoko... What parts? The networking one? (twisted?) __

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

ROB writes: >Just for the record, as a 'member of the community' or whatever, I >don't like this. Speaking as the designer of the Mopar Mailing List logo (which incorporates the old Chrysler Motors Corporation "Pentastar" trademark with Chrysler's permission), I don't mind it a bit. One way corpo

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

We are going to be able to use java too right? Marty > Hi Ryan, I understand where you're coming from. Right now the process > of getting up and running developing for the Neo1973 isn't > "straight-forward" - especially for a new coder. > > This is for a bunch of reasons, one of which is that th

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Just for the record, as a 'member of the community' or whatever, I don't like this. Sean, you might want to consider keeping tighter control over your trademarks. Just because you are opening your phone, you don't have to open your trademarks for people to use in their own profit making ventures

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

You didn't have to call me a noobjk (im not a fan of nerd speak). Get used to it ;) Thanks so much, that is really what I was looking for. By running Linux, I will be prepared when someone releases an OpenMoko programming suite, right? In theory, yes, by running Linux you'll be prepar

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

You didn't have to call me a noobjk (im not a fan of nerd speak). Thanks so much, that is really what I was looking for. By running Linux, I will be prepared when someone releases an OpenMoko programming suite, right? -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Michael Dickens wrote: I have both

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

On 2/12/07, Daniel Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this something where the proceeds go to Openmoko somehow, or > simply a private initiative? the deal with spreadshirt is that you design the shirts and spreadshirt takes care of the rest. So the price you see is pretty much what spreads

Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt

Richard, On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:54:11 +0100 Richard Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 12 February 2007 04:59, Daniel Willmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I spent some time designing t-shirts and polo-shirts with the > > OpenMoko logo: > > > > http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?sid=211795

RE: Is is it possible to make this Truphone compatible?

Truphone's claim to fame is it's one touch voip install, it obviously wont work out of the box but could be modified to suit eventually. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

I have both a PPC and an Intel-Mac, Do I just download the Linux VMWare? It doesn't seem to have support for Os X. You download a VMWare beta "fusion" for Intel-Mac: < http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/ > Then you download an Ubuntu ISO or a VMWare Ubuntu application: < http://www.ubu

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Woah! That's a lot of information. Let me try to peice it together: I have both a PPC and an Intel-Mac, Do I just download the Linux VMWare? It doesn't seem to have support for Os X. What is OE/BB? Are you saying i need to program in a Linux environment? Thanks, ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:2

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

VMWare does not support OS X. They have a beta for Intel-Mac OSX. Nothing for PPC Mac though. Expect a full release this summer, with all the great features of their other VM players. Can you be more specific about Ubuntu, what I am supposed to get exactly. Ubuntu is a Linux distribu

Re: Cross-device compatibility

On 2/10/07, Ulrik Rasmusen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, I was wondering how much thought there's been put into making applications for OpenMoko compatible across different devices. Imagine in a couple of years, when OpenMoko has been put on 10+ different types of phones, all with different fe

Re: Is is it possible to make this Truphone compatible?

On Monday 12 February 2007 16:16:04 Shridhar Jayanthi wrote: > with a WiFi card. But I was wondering if it's possible to make a IP stack > over bluetooth, to use the OpenMoko. Besides needing a "bluethooth > hotspot", is there any technical reason for which this wouldn't work? You can use IP over

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

VMWare does not support OS X. Can you be more specific about Ubuntu, what I am supposed to get exactly. I've heard of C++, what is the best way to get started? What is Python? For my mockups, should I just use the example pics from the press release? Thanks, ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:5

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

Richard Bennett schrieb: > On Monday 12 February 2007 13:05, Nils Faerber wrote: >> - not even counting in the extreme high power consumption it would >> cause. I assume unless some genious invents a much higher efficient step >> up converter you will not see any small portable device to support bu

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Ryan - Someone suggested getting VMWare & setting up a Ubuntu VM ... this is a -great- suggestion since you're running OSX, -if- you have an Intel-Mac. If you have a PPC-Mac, then this is not an option (AFAIK), and you'll need to either (1) install Linux on another hard drive / partition a

Re:OpenMoko Challenges

It is, of course, disappointing to see a delay. But having a non-functional phone on time would be much more disappointing! Thanks for the update. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listi

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

For programming, you'll need to start to get up and running with C++. That's a fairly daunting task, but if you want to do real programming for the Neo, you'll need to know how to program in C++, or possibly Python. With regards to themes - not sure how they'll be configured, though probably usin

Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Hi Ryan, I understand where you're coming from. Right now the process of getting up and running developing for the Neo1973 isn't "straight-forward" - especially for a new coder. This is for a bunch of reasons, one of which is that the actual software isn't released yet, but will be in the near fu

Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

>>So I propose that all members of the Open Moko mailing lists may have a priority on purchassing a phone for testing/troubleshooting (of course) if theire is some devices left after develpppers. :):):) I'll drink to that (when i'm 21). Sounds like a really (clears throat) great idea. -ry

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