Sorry, it should go on device-owners list.
Bartlomiej Zdanowski pisze:
Hi
Michael Lauer pisze:
This is correct. There were some BitBake / OE changes that required
doing a full rebuild. I expect the feed to be up again within the next
12 hours or so.
You're right! It's up.
I'd like to introduce Michael Shiloh and Joachim Roh Steiger -- two
new members of the OpenMoko team. Their primary responsibility will be
to support you, the OpenMoko community developers. I'm sure you'll all
agree this is an extremely important (and too often neglected in this
project) role ;-)
I lost my hope... Thank you for response.
Henry Law pisze:
My neo can use GPRS. But need to stop gsmd first.
I put all the AT command in to chatscript and try pon gprs. ppp0 appear
after a while. I am using PEOPLES in HongKong and the SIM card does not
have a PIN.
Could you send me your
On 9/6/07, Denis Parchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks!
Anyone saw new Apple announcement? Now iPhone is priced at $399..
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/steve-jobs-live-apples-the-beat-goes-on-special-event/
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Best regards,
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 05:18:36PM +0100, thus spake David R. Newman:
Nkoli wrote:
On 9/6/07, *Denis Parchenko* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
sold in the first 30 hrs than in the following month, but beyond that,
$399 iphones are highly detrimental to the success of
My neo can use GPRS. But need to stop gsmd first.
I put all the AT command in to chatscript and try pon gprs. ppp0 appear
after a while. I am using PEOPLES in HongKong and the SIM card does not
have a PIN.
Did you see any AT command log in /tmp/gsmd.log or /var/log/message?
Henry
Bartlomiej
On 9/6/07, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello.
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 23:27, Ole Tange wrote:
I just got a 4 GB SD flash card. It seems this does not work. It may
just be this model though.
Mine works fine.
http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=93
Dear Community,
I'd like to introduce Michael Shiloh and Joachim Roh Steiger -- two
new members of the OpenMoko team. Their primary responsibility will be
to support you, the OpenMoko community developers. I'm sure you'll all
agree this is an extremely important (and too often neglected in this
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal you
currently have with SMedia. I wouldn't be surprised if the people you
were talking to had no idea this sort of
On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of
nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with.
I think it will need to be $300 or less to sell large quantities.
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On 9/7/07, David R. Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the Neo, even as a small-quantity development kit, only costs $300.
That's still less that $399. A mass-produced OpenMoko phone would cost
less (particularly if it was ready to use in the Chinese, Japanese and
Indian markets).
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On 9/5/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5 Sep 2007, at 22:27, Ole Tange wrote:
I just got a 4 GB SD flash card. It seems this does not work. It may
just be this model though.
Does it show up at all or just doesn't mount? you may need to format
as ext3 if it doesnt mount.
It
On 9/7/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of
nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with.
I think it will need to be $300 or less to sell large quantities.
I
On 9/7/07, Peter Viani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/7/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of
nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with.
I think it will
In my opinion software can make the difference.. I think openmoko should go
in the direction of providing things not possible in a closed phone.. And
hardware upgradability (possibility to change processor, or to add memory)
would mean that the initial investment can be compensated with the
On Thursday 06 September 2007 18:52:35 David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
Anyone saw new Apple announcement? Now iPhone is priced at $399..
...an act which has certainly pissed off all the folks who got suckered
into standing in lines for days and paying through the nose to be the
first kid on
I think it is important to get the neo1973v2 out on sale as soon as
possible. Then we can make software that may defend the price. I don't
think the basic version could be sold for any less than $400. Maybe
the advanced kit could be sold for $500? I don't know. But I think
that the phone
Raphael Jacquot wrote:
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
we need
* flawlessly working dialer
* flawlessly working address book
* flawlessly working SMS send/receive
the rest can probably wait ;D
And directly after that a flawless browser and flawless instant messanging.
Because that is
Andreas Utterberg wrote:
Better to get it out now with more bugs, then later with less bugs.
I disagree: having *any* noticeable bugs in a release product will bring
a lot of criticism. Having more bugs just to get a release out the
door will generate a lot of bad press about the efforts put in
pe, 2007-09-07 kello 20:18 +0200, roby kirjoitti:
In my opinion software can make the difference.. I think openmoko
should go in the direction of providing things not possible in a
closed phone..
Indeed.
Comparing to the iPhone is useless, and the Neo will not be in direct
competition with it
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
I think it is important to get the neo1973v2 out on sale as soon as
possible. Then we can make software that may defend the price. I don't
think the basic version could be sold for any less than $400. Maybe
the advanced kit could be sold for $500? I don't know.
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Hell, a simple app for encrypted voice calls over GSM data will
instantly make it the cheapest, most transparent secure cellular, adding
it on the top of the shopping list of another niche. I'm sure there are
other killer features that add a niche at a time. And those add
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Hell, a simple app for encrypted voice calls over GSM data will
instantly make it the cheapest, most transparent secure cellular, adding
it on the top of the shopping list of another niche. I'm sure there are
other killer features that add a niche at a time. And those add
On 7 Sep 2007, at 19:51, ian douglas wrote:
Andreas Utterberg wrote:
Better to get it out now with more bugs, then later with less bugs.
I disagree: having *any* noticeable bugs in a release product will
bring
a lot of criticism. Having more bugs just to get a release out the
door will
On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Andreas Utterberg wrote:
What the v2 neo needs is a nice oi, the best would be if its
possible to add compiz fusion, beryl effects to it. That would
really boost the interest to the mass, just look at the development
speed to the berylproject had, and the very
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 12:35 -0700, Ted Lemon wrote:
On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Andreas Utterberg wrote:
What the v2 neo needs is a nice oi, the best would be if its
possible to add compiz fusion, beryl effects to it. That would
really boost the interest to the mass, just look at the
pe, 2007-09-07 kello 21:49 +0200, Jens Fursund kirjoitti:
All this sounds really good, but am I wrong when I say that the GPS has
been cancelled for GTA02?
Yes you are, and please don't quote an entire message for a short
comment like this.
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The tphone chinese I phone knockoff has more feature and sells for $200
retail.
It has apentouchscreen but other than that has amny more features.
Runs linux . Any provider, two sim card slots for provider swicthing.
Memeory card slot.
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:26 am, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote:
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Hell, a simple app for encrypted voice calls over GSM data will
instantly make it the cheapest, most transparent secure cellular, adding
it on the top of the shopping list of another niche. I'm sure there are
other killer features that add a niche at
Ted Lemon wrote:
At a minimum, we need:
- It's got to actually work as a mobile phone.
that's the most important thing
- At least several hours of H.264 playback.
possibly doable but I don't believe the current hardware can handle it
- A good music app, ideally tied in to the
On 9/7/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it appear those things are so expensive that I couldn't find any price
for it. (searching for secure cell phone on google)
also, it appears that none of those things can talk to one another, each
doing it's little thing.
now, if we can have
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/7/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it appear those things are so expensive that I couldn't find any price
for it. (searching for secure cell phone on google)
also, it appears that none of those things can talk to one another, each
doing it's little thing.
IMHO...
I've been following the Neo1973 for months now, lurking, and tend to
disagree with just about all comparisons I've read w/ the iPhone. When
someone references the iPhone I think iPhone, I could care less.
I think it's great that the Neo1973 is now getting some exposure, but I
think
pe, 2007-09-07 kello 13:35 -0700, Shawn Rutledge kirjoitti:
It's easy to think first of doing it over a data connection. But I
can imagine more of a signal-processing approach.
This has been hashed to death. Short of it: the GSM codec actively tries
to throw away anything that doesn't sound
Amen!
I couldn't have stated it better my self. I don't like it when people say
oh no the I phone is going to squich the Neo1973. Me no phone can touch the
neo1973. For me it is a revolution, that will change the way phone
industry. For far to long the phone industry has been this big monster
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 08:27:36PM +0200, Andreas Utterberg wrote:
What the v2 neo needs is a nice oi, the best would be if its possible to add
compiz fusion, beryl effects to it. That would really boost the interest to
the mass, just look at the development speed to the berylproject had, and
On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Raphael Jacquot wrote:
- At least several hours of H.264 playback.
possibly doable but I don't believe the current hardware can handle it
The point here is that for the GTA02, if the video hardware supports
hardware playback of H.264, we need a driver that allows
What about patent crap?
http://news.com.com/8301-13579_3-9773982-37.html
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Wow, this thread has gone really off topic :) But I figure I'd add in my 2c.
A GSM Data call can carry up to 9.6kb/s. Using a good voice codec
like Speex, one can get voice still sounding decent at 2kb/s.
I don't really know much about the inner workings of GSM, but is there
anything stopping one
Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 05:18:36PM +0100, thus spake David R. Newman:
Nkoli wrote:
On 9/6/07, *Denis Parchenko* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
sold in the first 30 hrs than in the following month, but beyond that,
$399
There, remembered to change the subject line...
pe, 2007-09-07 kello 14:33 -0700, Ted Lemon kirjoitti:
On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Raphael Jacquot wrote:
- At least several hours of H.264 playback.
possibly doable but I don't believe the current hardware can handle it
The point here is
On 9/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The iPhone killer, competitor, or comparisons you have been describing -
to
me - should not be done against the neo. The iPhone killer will be a
later
model OpenMoko phone brought out after much custom development and
innovative ideas
On Friday 07 September 2007 19:25:17 Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of
nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with.
I think it will need to be $300 or less to sell large quantities.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...meaningful comments...]
Thanks! I couldn't agree more. I want to stay out of this thread, but
if I were to comment, I couldn't have said it better than you.
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- Michael Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/
The iPhone killer, competitor, or comparisons you have been describing - to
me - should not be done against the neo.
I happen to think that the neo is indeed an anti-iphone. Unfortunately
a lot of people confuse this position with the idea that the neo is an
iPhone killer - something
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