Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer pisze: You can use the nc/pty combination for that as described in http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/qpe-430-plus-qemu/ Note though that due to some weird bug this doesn't work for multiplexing mode :/ I took a solution mentioned in this article and worked perfectly for my Neo 1973. killall gsmd nc -l -p 5000 /dev/ttySAC0 /dev/ttySAC0 Only conditions is that you have to use Openmoko distro. I'm using latest Debian distro and I have old OM lying on Flash. Under Debian my modem hangs after manually connecting via cu from Phone, so the hack above doesn't work. I suppose the problem is connected with multiplexing bug that Mickey mentioned, as multiplexing in Debian is enabled . So I used OM and it worked well. I can call my Neo's GSM modem from any network machine. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Lead Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
Timo Juhani Lindfors pisze: (...) would at least give you gsm.pipe that allows you to read and write to GSM. If you really need a tty with all the odd ioctls then it's bit more challenging and you probably want to use Thank you Juhani and Clemens (from other post) for response. I'll try to play with it. As I'm using Debian with OpenmokoFramework, I've found *gsm0710muxd* http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Implementations/gsm0710muxd than can be accessed throught DBus which can be accessible from local network, not only from localhost. And that can be a solution too if I could really access GSM modem throught it. Anybody used *gsm0710muxd*? Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Lead Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
Greetings, I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux' /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port. I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages. Any ideas? Thank you in advance. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Lead Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: do not need _any_ interface features
Hi. Michael Kremliovsky pisze: If I do not want to have any UI and I do not need voice, can I reliably send data with a reasonable speed? If so, what are the benchmark speeds? You mean sendig data via GPRS? Throwing away GUI and other CPU consuming services won't help in this case as neo is 2G phone with GPRS data channel. All limits are caused by GPRS technology limitations. According to WIKI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS you can have maximum throughput 60 kbps download and 40 kbps upload. It depends on your SIM rating plan. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT+CRSM=176,28512,0,0,123 (was Re: home zone functionality)
Many of those type of AT commands are gsm-modem specific. Many of them are far from AT standard and are implemented only in modems of that manufacturer. Google for M35 modem specification in PDF and then for such command in offical AT commands set. Kiro Zimmer pisze: According to [1] the AT-command AT+CRSM=176,28512,0,0,123 should list the stored (and encoded) homezone values. This works on my very old Siemens M35 but not on any newer phone I have tried, even when the same SIM was used. So this AT-command seems to be phone specific. Does anybody know how this command is implemented on other phones? Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP+IAX Program Theory for OM
Hi Kyle. Kyle Bassett pisze: specified time. If the user does not answer or a connection problem persisted, then the asterisk server can forward the call to the user's regular (OM or third party) cell line. --User can give one phone number to all contacts and have asterisk decide how to handle the call (routing not just to the cell phones, but to home lines, etc.) The problem with forwarding call to land/cell line is that I as an owner of OM phone will pay for connection between asterisk and cell/land line operator because AFAIK no operator would handle incoming connection for free (at least in Poland). We have many SIP operators so it could be done but always I should pay for routing packets to my home/cell number. It's like paying for incomming connections while abroad and in roaming. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: To everybody! Brenda -Full time editor on board
Brenda Wang pisze: Hello everybody: Hello Brenda! Best wishes to you. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth networking
Phani Kumar Kancharala pisze: I followed the steps given in wiki and I could able to scan the bluethooth devices and connect to the servers using pand -c MAC. But I couldn't see any bluetooth interface like bnep0 on phone. Can anyone help me to get ride of this. I am using 2.6.22.5 http://2.6.22.5 kernel with Qtopia image. I'm using the same kernel, but with Openmoko. I don't know if you have all modules with Qtopia. Yesterday I finally managed to connect my PC with Neo. I wish you luck. Maybe try with Openmoko with the same kernel. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA01 Gllin ipkg
Mike Montour pisze: Dan Staley wrote: I recently got my GTA01 and am trying to get the gllin ipkg from http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ . However, everytime I download it, it says it is corrupted. Some people had similar problems in the past - they would download a copy of the EULA rather than the package itself. You might try it with a different browser, and make sure that it's passing the Referer: header correctly. The above URL works for me. Same here, when I installed it for the first time. Open the link in ordinary web browser, then scp it to the phone. Don't try to pass this url directly to IPKG. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GutenFlash
Hi Gilles, Gilles Casse pisze: GutenFlash is a RSVP text reader: for example, it displays a text one word at a time in large font on the screen. Any chances to implement speech syntethiser to read the text? I think there's a one on OpenEmbedded. Any ideas? Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone's reading bugzilla?
Krzysztof Kajkowski pisze: Recently I started to test newest OM snapshots and fill in new bugs in bugzilla. But I'm wonder if this is neccesary or needed? I filled some IMHO severe bugs (contact list is not working, dialer is not working - #1120, #1121, #1122) but there's no answer. Does it mean you already know about these bugs and are already fixing them or have no time to looks at them? Do you want us to test your software? Sounds like a chaos after first days from opening the OM shop. Nobody controlls this. Regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?
Hello. Ilja O. pisze: It was already said that two SIMs working simultaneously would require two trancievers. This is obviously is not a case of GTA02. Planning feature list for GTA(03|04) is quite a waste of time until GTA02 will be released. AFAIK gsm modem is about 1/3 of phone production costs. IMHO basic neo would never have two modems as it's still very rare to use dual-sim and it would generate unwanted neo's price rise. Regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?
Hi. kkr pisze: dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?
Hello. Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller pisze: dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Here is a description what dual SIM means and why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM I knew that and this is an excerpt from article you metioned: Normal GSM phones contain a single transceiver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transceiver; dual-SIM phones must have dual transceivers, and according to what kkr wrote dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! I suspend what I wrote - if both SIMs should be active at the same time (above) it reqiures two modems (aka transceivers)... Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] pisze: I suspend what I wrote - if both SIMs should be active at the same time (above) it reqiures two modems (aka transceivers)... I meant I affirm what I wrote - sorry, spelling mistake. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YAMA - Map Application intended for OpenMoko
Hello András. Schmidt András pisze: I am developing a GPL map viewing application. Project home page is: http://yamamap.wiki.sourceforge.net/ It has three main versions: * Java-Swing for desktop * C#-Windows.Forms for .Net CF, Windows desktop and Linux desktop * C#-GTK# for OpenMoko (and Linux desktop) I'd be happy to test it on Neo/OM. Sadly no AFAIK no support for Java and C# yet. Is somebody planning to let out Java on OpenMoko? Best regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...
Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move like this. Best regards for Harald. http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko Best regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
When will usb host driver be available in OM kernel?
Hello. As far as I know there's no USB host driver in OM kernel, so even if external USB device is self powered or power connector is attached there's no chance to connect anything to Neo. When will it be available? You could provide it with other two drivers - mouse and keyboard, and that would be awesome. Other drivers would come next by porting some of them from other linux distros especially for devices such as memory sticks or web-cameras. What do you think about that? Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: How to enable USB-host mode
I mean to turn USB host on while openmoko running. I want to connect some usb external devices not to flash it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: - turn GTA01 off - press left side top button FIRST (i guess the touch screen is in front fo you) - press (while you still press the left side top button) the on/off button Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to enable USB-host mode
Hello. I've made my 3-direction USB cable with +5v power but I need some tips how to enable USB host mode in Openmoko. Please help. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS accuracy
Sven Klomp pisze: On Friday 21 September 2007 21:43:45 Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: 2007/9/21, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi! Check out picture in this article: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/41 I had my Neo on the buttom of my back pack while riding a bike. Accuracy was up to about 2m. It was realy good. This sounds (and looks) very promising. I added Geocaching as possible application to the Wiki. BTW: Nice blog with interesting (and for me some new) details. But unfortunately in Polish :-) The latest articles are bilingual or if they don't they are surely directed to Polish OM Community. Openmoko.org.pl co-director :-) Best regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsmd: need hints for troubleshooting
Hello. Zak pisze: Hi, tried using the openmoko-dialer in vain. The /tmp/gsm.log file contains the lines attached to the end of this email. I also find that the applet of top menu disappears whenever I power on the GSM module using the pull-down menu. This is known bug. Add /etc/init.d/gsmd restart to /etc/matchbox/session just before dialer line. It should work now. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?
Ortwin Regel pisze: Seems like it should, with the instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD . Could someone prepare binaries ready for putting onto my SD card? And is there a program that can format cards with different filesystems from Windows? Yes it is - Openmoko with neo. Look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ipkg -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?
My idea is to have one OS on flash memory and second on SD card. Anybody knows if it would work? Regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
