Re: qtMoko getting bad Network Time
Wait... If I apply to the calue 136 the code from
https://github.com/freesmartphone/cornucopia/blob/master/fsogsmd/src/lib/consts.vala#L975
I get -120 minutes, which is Ok:
---
public int ctzvToTimeZone( int ctzv ) // ctzv = 136
{
var bcd1 = ( ctzv / 0x10 );// =8
var bcd2 = ( ctzv % 0x10 ) 0x7;// =0
var zone = bcd2 * 10 + bcd1;// =8
var sign = ( ctzv 0x08 ) == 8;// true
return sign ? -zone * 15 : zone * 15;// =-120
}
---
This assumes the number is encoded as a 8 bit integer, with the 4 bit
being the sign. There is a comment that seem s to refer to the GSM spec.
The ofono and qtmoko give the same result (+34 hours), and both seem to
expect the sign being in a string form (+ or -). ofono uses atoi(),
qtmoko parses it by hand.
Seems that my provider/modem would work with FSOs interpretation, but
not with ofonoqtmoko.
Jorge
On 07/01/15 16:03, Jorge wrote:
Thanks.
I've found this wording for the time zone info [1][2]:
(indicates the difference, expressed in quarters of an hour, between
the local time and GMT; range
-96...+96)
So, a value of 136 would not be valid. I'll try to track this one.
Jorge
[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/08.03.00_60/ts_127007v080300p.pdf
[2] download-c.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=16235
On 07/01/15 01:08, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Jorge wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation. A question, can you confirm that the
session
excerpt is the one of interest, and it actually says the provider is
giving
the +34 time zone? That would be strange, being the biggest celular
provider
around here. With my Nokia dumbphone I've never seen something like
that
(OTOH, time updatting hasn't worked for me at all last time I needed
it).
America/Montevideo seems to be two hours behind UTC.
The log confirms that QtMoko is definitely looking for the GMT-34
timezone.
Looking at the QtMoko source code, +CTZV is an Unsolicited result
code for time zone change events.
https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/html/atcommands.html
Your operator's CTZV value is 136.
The code handling the +CTZV message is here:
https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp#L683
That code produces 34 hours in front of UTC for your operator's CTZV
value.
There are two other FLOSS implementations of CTZV handling that I know
of, FSO and oFono:
http://www.freesmartphone.org/
https://01.org/ofono
Looking at the FSO code, it produces 8 hours behind UTC for your
operator's CTZV value.
https://github.com/freesmartphone/cornucopia/blob/master/fsogsmd/src/lib/consts.vala#L975
Looking at the oFono code, it produces 34 hours in front of UTC for
your operator's CTZV value.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/drivers/atmodem/network-registration.c#n841
I then tried to find a reference for how to do this correctly, since
none of the FLOSS implementations I can find produce a result that
matches TZ=America/Montevideo.
The closest I could find is a reference to the value being an offset
from Universal Time in units of 15 minutes.
Not sure what the right answer is here, I think you will need to do
more testing with the same SIM card in a variety of phones from you
and your friends and record the resulting timezone offsets. If you can
also record the CTZV value (some phones have debug info available)
that would be helpful too, in case different phones get different
values or use another command. Start by setting the timezone UTC, then
turn on automatic timezone info and then find out what the resulting
timezone offset is. If any of them then get the correct timezone
you'll need to figure out how.
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Re: qtMoko getting bad Network Time
Thanks. I've found this wording for the time zone info [1][2]: (indicates the difference, expressed in quarters of an hour, between the local time and GMT; range -96...+96) So, a value of 136 would not be valid. I'll try to track this one. Jorge [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/127000_127099/127007/08.03.00_60/ts_127007v080300p.pdf [2] download-c.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=16235 On 07/01/15 01:08, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Jorge wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. A question, can you confirm that the session excerpt is the one of interest, and it actually says the provider is giving the +34 time zone? That would be strange, being the biggest celular provider around here. With my Nokia dumbphone I've never seen something like that (OTOH, time updatting hasn't worked for me at all last time I needed it). America/Montevideo seems to be two hours behind UTC. The log confirms that QtMoko is definitely looking for the GMT-34 timezone. Looking at the QtMoko source code, +CTZV is an Unsolicited result code for time zone change events. https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/html/atcommands.html Your operator's CTZV value is 136. The code handling the +CTZV message is here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp#L683 That code produces 34 hours in front of UTC for your operator's CTZV value. There are two other FLOSS implementations of CTZV handling that I know of, FSO and oFono: http://www.freesmartphone.org/ https://01.org/ofono Looking at the FSO code, it produces 8 hours behind UTC for your operator's CTZV value. https://github.com/freesmartphone/cornucopia/blob/master/fsogsmd/src/lib/consts.vala#L975 Looking at the oFono code, it produces 34 hours in front of UTC for your operator's CTZV value. https://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/drivers/atmodem/network-registration.c#n841 I then tried to find a reference for how to do this correctly, since none of the FLOSS implementations I can find produce a result that matches TZ=America/Montevideo. The closest I could find is a reference to the value being an offset from Universal Time in units of 15 minutes. Not sure what the right answer is here, I think you will need to do more testing with the same SIM card in a variety of phones from you and your friends and record the resulting timezone offsets. If you can also record the CTZV value (some phones have debug info available) that would be helpful too, in case different phones get different values or use another command. Start by setting the timezone UTC, then turn on automatic timezone info and then find out what the resulting timezone offset is. If any of them then get the correct timezone you'll need to figure out how. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtMoko getting bad Network Time
Thanks for the confirmation. A question, can you confirm that the session excerpt is the one of interest, and it actually says the provider is giving the +34 time zone? That would be strange, being the biggest celular provider around here. With my Nokia dumbphone I've never seen something like that (OTOH, time updatting hasn't worked for me at all last time I needed it). Jorge On 05/01/15 23:39, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Jorge wrote: I have a correctly set time timezone (America/Montevideo), and when my qtMoko boots up, after connecting to the cellular network a weird dialog appears : The network time is (GMT +34). Set this new time?. If I say No, everything keeps working. If I say Yes the timezone is changed to GMT-34 and as expected the time is borked (00:00 1/1/1970). 34 hours past GMT sounds like your provider has a broken time server. Usually GMT timezones are 0-12 hours before/after GMT and no further. Of course QtMoko should probably handle such broken timezones by ignoring them rather than breaking. Please file a bug about it on the QtMoko bug reports page: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtMoko UI questions...
Ok, thanks, will see what change I see. Right now, on suspend I get 3 days, the same time that with my Nokia 1112, a seawater inmersion survivor. This is, not bad :) Jorge On 04/01/15 08:53, Robert 'Bobby' Zenz wrote: Yes, it is worth being enabled if your phone has been fixed. If I remember correctly there was a hardware bug that would not allow to go the modem to deep sleep (to save energy), instead of sleeping it oscillated between being awake and sleeping or something like that. I think it was bug #1024, and needs to be fixed by soldering a resistor somewhere onto the board. If it has been fixed on your phone, enable the option. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtMoko getting bad Network Time
Hi to all again: I have a correctly set time timezone (America/Montevideo), and when my qtMoko boots up, after connecting to the cellular network a weird dialog appears : The network time is (GMT +34). Set this new time?. If I say No, everything keeps working. If I say Yes the timezone is changed to GMT-34 and as expected the time is borked (00:00 1/1/1970). I guess there is some problem requesting the timezone from the provider. The output from running qpe by hand is the following (just after reading the contacts from the SIM): - AtChat : T : AT+CMER=1,0,0,1,0 AtChat : F : OK AtChat : T : AT+CNMI=2,1,2,0,0 AtChat : F : OK AtChat : T : AT+COPS=0 AtChat : N : +CREG: 2 AtChat : N : %CSQ: 31, 99, 5 AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 5 AtChat : t : AT+CSCB=0,50 AtChat : N : +CREG: 1,000B,25FA AtChat : F : OK AtChat : f : AT+CSCB=0,50 AtChat : f : OK AtChat : t : AT+COPS=3,2 AtChat : f : AT+COPS=3,2 AtChat : f : OK AtChat : t : AT+COPS? AtChat : f : AT+COPS? AtChat : f : +COPS: 0,2,74801 AtChat : f : OK AtChat : t : AT+COPS=3,0 AtChat : f : AT+COPS=3,0 AtChat : f : OK AtChat : t : AT+COPS? AtChat : f : AT+COPS? AtChat : f : +COPS: 0,0,Antel AtChat : f : OK AtChat : t : AT+CSCB=0,50 AtChat : f : AT+CSCB=0,50 AtChat : f : OK AtChat : N : %CSQ: 31, 99, 3 AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 5 AtChat : N : +CTZV: 136 Unable to open '/usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT-34' QTimeZone::data Can't create a valid data object for 'Etc/GMT-34' TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid AtChat : N : %CSQ: 31, 99, 5 AtChat : N : +CIEV: 1, 5 TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid AtChat : T : AtChat : W : AtChat : W : OK TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid AtChat : T : AT+CCFC=0,2 TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid AtChat : F : +CCFC: 0,7 AtChat : F : OK TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid - Around here is when the dialog appears, and it keeps printing TimeZoneData::fromUtc invalid until I select No. Hope it's interesting. Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtMoko UI questions...
Thank Christ and Robert. Another question, in the NeoControl (Neo Hardware Tool) application there's a Deep Sleep option, unchecked. Is it worth enabling? It seems modem related, what's supposed to do? There's also an unchecked Use FSO (freesmartphone.org), what is qtMoko's status with FSO? Jorge On 03/01/15 11:30, Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Jorge xxo...@gmail.com wrote: Also, how are the two charge rate computed? Over what period? And I suppose that while suspended no data is logged, how that is dealt with? There's a charge counter inside the battery. When suspending, the charge and suspend time is stored. When waking up, the charge delta and time delta is used for that. Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtMoko UI questions...
Using qtMoko 58 on a GTA02 here, and have this silly question... What are the two numbers under the service provider (with the globe icon)?. It says 11/9772 now, and have no idea what it means :) And by the way, what is the last item for, under the charge rate, the one with the P icon? Also, how are the two charge rate computed? Over what period? And I suppose that while suspended no data is logged, how that is dealt with? Greetings, Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building qtmoko for Neo.
On 01/20/2014 06:16 PM, Radek Polak wrote: 1. The cdebootstrap step in the script fails unless I add --allow-unauthenticated. Not sure what is going on nor whose fault it is. Hmm maybe you have to install debian/emdebian apt keyring to get rid of this. I am on debian, that's maybe why it works for me... I do have debian-keyring and emdebian-archive-keyring installed, will look a bit further. 2. At some point during the script running, something breaks in my box. Some applets hang, and chromium starts to fail to load complaining on incorrect permissions on /dev/shm. Doing sudo chmod 1777 /dev/shm seems to fix that, but I don't know what else is happening. Ahh interesting, i am getting this error too, but it never occured to me that this is because of qtmoko chroot. It can be related to binded mounts... (will comment later) You can try append -verbose to see more details. Otherwise you might need the devel packages like libasound2-dev libssl-dev but i wonder why they are not installed - i have checked the qtmoko-chroot- armel.sh and they are there. Yes, the packages are there, and running with -verbose show the following: --- arm-linux-gnueabi-g++ -MMD -MF /root/qte/build/config.tests/alsa/.obj/main.cpp.d -c -pipe -DQT_QWS_FICGTA01 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=2 -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -msoft-float -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -DQT_NO_DYNAMIC_CAST -I/root/qte/build/sdk/devices/root/qte/qtmoko/devices/neo/mkspecs/qws/linux-neo-g++ -I/root/qte/build/config.tests/devices/root/qte/qtmoko/devices/neo/mkspecs/qws/linux-neo-g++ -I/root/qte/qtmoko/devices/neo/mkspecs/qws/linux-neo-g++ -I/root/qte/build/config.tests/alsa -I/root/qte/qtmoko/config.tests/alsa -I/root/qte/qtmoko/alsa -I/root/qte/build/alsa -o /root/qte/build/config.tests/alsa/.obj/main.o /root/qte/qtmoko/config.tests/alsa/main.cpp /root/qte/qtmoko/config.tests/alsa/main.cpp:1:28: warning: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory --- Nevertheless, the file /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h is in place, don't know why it doesn't find it. On mounts, yes, there is definitely something fishy. Mount shows the following that does not look right: --- /dev on /home/jvisca/sources/qtmoko-chroot/dev type none (rw,bind) /home/jvisca/sources on /home/jvisca/sources/qtmoko-chroot/root/qte type none (rw,bind) /home/jvisca/sources on /home/jvisca/sources/qtmoko-chroot/var/lib/dbus type none (rw,bind) /var/lib/dbus on /home/jvisca/sources/qtmoko-chroot/var/lib/dbus type none (rw,bind) --- Actually, that is a bit scary :) Regards, Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Building qtmoko for Neo.
Hi, I'm trying to build qtmoko from https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko , following the README., on a Ubuntu 13.04 64bits box, and have some weird behavior. I suppose I have to run sudo scripts/qtmoko-chroot-armel.sh, not armhf, right? 1. The cdebootstrap step in the script fails unless I add --allow-unauthenticated. Not sure what is going on nor whose fault it is. 2. At some point during the script running, something breaks in my box. Some applets hang, and chromium starts to fail to load complaining on incorrect permissions on /dev/shm. Doing sudo chmod 1777 /dev/shm seems to fix that, but I don't know what else is happening. 3. Finally, the script finishes, but the qtmoko-chroot:~/qte/build$ ../qtmoko/configure -device neo step (is the neo there right?) fails with: ... Testing for ALSA: FAIL ERROR: You requested -sound-system alsa but it was disabled. make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 1 4. If I add -sound-system pulse to configure, then it fails shortly after with: ... Testing for OpenSSL: FAIL ERROR: You requested -ssl but it was disabled. apt-get install openssl does not fix it. Greetings, Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
Me too, jffs works but had to enable modem logging to get trough the pin screen. Jorge On 14/12/13 13:41, Francesco De Vita wrote: Thank you Radek, the jffs2 image works on NAND! But, as happened for the uSD version, the system stops at the PIN screen. However, as you suggested, enabling the modem logging solves the problem. Regards Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
Yup, same here. No booting from NAND. On 12/12/13 23:59, Ben Wong wrote: Hey Joif, You're not alone. I get the same message with v58 in NAND; haven't tried on SD yet. I thought it might be DFU transferring the file system incorrectly, but seeing that you have the same problem, I think perhaps the image on sourceforge is corrupted. What's the checksum supposed to be for the QTMoko files? —B On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Francesco De Vita francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hello Flashing QtMoko v58 I discovered that I'm not able to boot any more from NAND. This is what I receive after pressing the power button: UBI error: process_eb: bad image sequence number 1588845893 in PEB 1971, epxected 1933142073 slab error in kmem_cache_destroy(): cache `ubi_scan_slab': Can't free all objects UBI error: ubi_init: cannot attach mtd6 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [c002b0f0] (unwind_backtrace+0x0/0xf0) from [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) from [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) from [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) from [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) from [c0027730] (kernel_thread_exit+0x0/0x8) With v55 it seems to boot correctly but the process stops after the first configuration, and rebooting gives just a black screen. With v56 I have similar errors like above. Any hints on what's going on? I'm so sad... Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Warren Baird wrote: There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of people then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well for them. What are your successes with the Freerunner? With my family on vacation trips we camp in a small van I wanted to make a bed in the van and set it for that use but did not know whether the structure withstand our weight with the specifications of the materials on hand I try to find out that I needed to apply Newton's second law Force = mass X acceleration but I did not know what was the acceleration in normal use and should do a stress test to So I put my phone under the mattress and call my wife We gather information from accelerometers I'm sorry but I can not share that data sorry for my English , the fault lies with google ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About Mplayer ´s source code for op enmoko
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Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
El vie, 27-02-2009 a las 09:08 +0100, kimaidou escribió: @jorge : great news ! I have read to python code, and I don't see where you specify the rate and quality of the recorded wav file ? begin cut paste info def cbRecordStart(self, w): dbg(cbRecordStart) #os.system(arecord -r 8000 -c 1 -v -t wav `date +/home/root/rec-m-%Y%m%d%H%M%S.wav` ) os.system(arecord -D hw -f cd -v -r 8000 -t wav ~/voicenote_ $(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M).wav ) os.system(alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore) def cbRecordStop(self, w): dbg(cbRecordStop) os.system(alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore) os.system(killall -TERM arecord) end cut paste info Other question : have you followed the discussion to merge the 2 other audio recording applications Monologue and Dictator ? Kimaidou Note : English is not my native language ... ,be patient Some time ago I go to a small city of my country (vacations) . I plain to map this for openstreetmap .( there are a blank area) This city don't have good images from yahoo then I only can use gps traces from my Neo . I use voice recording for this job. When I return to home I join a lot o files and do the work. I can tell you some conclusions about using voice recording for mapping. 1) I drive my car and tap my Neo to set a POI ( point of intererest ) . But there is no map at all from the zone then I put a POI in ever cross of ways and I need to record (voice) the name of the streets and other info. This work needs a separate screen with only a big button because we can check the screen to often. 2) While I seting POIs tapping my neo I recording a big wav , but when I return to home I need to correlate this info with my GPS traces.Second recomendation : put full date and time to the filename of voice recording to better correlation including SECONDS. 3) I allway record my gps traces because I put this on inittab : gp2:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/cgpxlogger -i 1 `date +/home/root/gps-%Y%m%d %H%M%S.gpx | tee /var/run/gpslog` But when I put all info into the openstreetmap editor (JOSM) the starting time from .gpx and .wav are different and I need to make adjustments . It's a lot more easy if we start at same time the recording of both info. I put a killall cgpxlogger when I start the recording of voice beacause in my config the process restart. 3b) additionally to previous recomendation if we don't have a GPS fix when we start to recording then we have problems later so check this before start an inform. I can check monologue because I make my try before but I like it. Saludos , Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
El vie, 27-02-2009 a las 10:12 -0200, Jorge Luis Chamorro escribió: . I can check monologue because I make my try before but I like it. Errata : I can't check monologue because I make my trip before but I like it. Saludos , Jorge ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - 3rd version - Can play wav files
El mié, 25-02-2009 a las 15:15 +0100, kimaidou escribió: Hi list, I post here, again, to announce the release of the third version of Voicenote. Now * you can play the wav files you have recorded with voicenote (or other wav files) * you go back the the 1st choice dialog (record or play?) after each action. To quit the script, click on the Cancel button. The page to read for more detail : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote I put your code into a python script from this page : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Data_Logger ... Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly on screen keyboard
kris Occhipinti wrote:
Does anyone have any feedback on my keyboard?
Good things, Bad Things?
So far I haven't seen another keyboard that is as easy to use with
your fingers,
But I haven't really gotten any feedback from others who have used it.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/pykey, line 18, in module
display = Xlib.display.Display()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/display.py, line 85, in
__init__
self.display = _BaseDisplay(display)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/display.py, line 67, in
__init__
apply(protocol.display.Display.__init__, (self, ) + args, keys)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/protocol/display.py, line
53, in __init__
name, host, displayno)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/support/connect.py, line
96, in get_auth
return mod.get_auth(sock, dname, host, dno)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/support/unix_connect.py,
line 100, in new_get_auth
au = xauth.Xauthority()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Xlib/xauth.py, line 46, in
__init__
raise error.XauthError('~/.Xauthority: %s' % err)
Xlib.error.XauthError: ~/.Xauthority: [Errno 2] No such file or
directory: '/home/root/.Xauthority'
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Re: Paroli Base
Jeremy Chang wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:03AM +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote: The Paroli Team wishes all of you a happy new year. Our last update was a while back but development continued and, despite sickness, vacations, Christmas, New Year's as well as jet lags, a lot has been accomplished. Most importantly, you can now find a paroli package in the testing repository[1] which can be installed via opkg. The package[2] is at pre-alpha state but the main phone functions are available and ready to be tested. Please note paroli is not considered a daily phone app, yet. You will find it can be rather unstable at times and might not always react the way you would expect ;) We hope that with the help of the community and lots of hard work we can reach a state where paroli can be considered reliable soon. Information on how to run and use paroli can be found here[3] We also have opened a new base for information, updates and bug tracking: http://www.paroli-project.org The main part is a blog which we will use to inform of small changes, publish tutorials and interesting facts we discover along the road. The page also contains a rough overview of our goals and how we plan to get there, it is a bit scarce right now, but will be filled up continuously. We are hoping for your input via mail, irc, chat or comment fields on our blog. Our new bug tracker resides at http://www.paroli-project.org/trac . It is rather virgin up to now so we encourage you to test paroli and note your findings ;) We also moved our source repository which can now be found at: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=summary [4] Execuse me?! We changed from git.OM to here? Why I don't know this anytime before? Same opinion here. I had no idea about this. Is there a why? As you can see the paroli has great plans for 2009 and we hope some of you will join us and follow our efforts. /The paroli Team [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/ [2] A rough overview about how this package differs from the last tichy package: Tichy migrated into paroli-core and is now a vital part of paroli. It is a slimmed down and more paroli focused version. Among other things EFL is now the default graphical library and the starting process has been optimized.Yaml was replaced with ParseConfig due to performance issues.Plus lots of other small, nifty details. [3] http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/ [4] checkout via git clone http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
Hello everyone, I dont pretend to start a flamewar of FreeRunner vs iPhone. Everyone knows their advantages and disadvantages and at least for me the main reason to buy an openmoko is the freedom. But the new iPhone 3G price was announced, and the 8 Gigas version will cost only $199 USD and it automatically makes the OpenMoko phone expensive, because they have similar characteristics... this could discourage many possible buyers, for purely economical reasons. I dont know if the FreeRunner price can be changed at this moment, but now the FreeRunner is less competitive than the iPhone in terms of price. Best wishes _ Stop squinting -- view your photos on your TV. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/default.mspx?deepLink=photos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
*sigh* The 3G iPhone does not cost $199. It costs $199 when subsidized through a 2 year ATT contract. Thats like saying my Nokia E51 costs nothing, because I got it free with a 2 year contract. Just look Ebay, amazon, etc... you can buy unlocked iPhones for almost the price they have with ATT, in fact there is no ATT in my country, an i could buy one on many shops in the downtown (dont misunderstand me, i want the FreeRunner!!). I am sure it will happen again with the iPhone 3G _ Get your fix of news, sports, entertainment and more on MSN Mobile http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
Granted, the Apple and ATT partnership greatly subsidizes the cost, because of the $960 ($40/mo unlimited data plan for 2 yrs) to $2400 ($100/mo unlimited voice/data for 2 yrs) that you'd spend with ATT also helps cover the hidden cost of the hardware. No doubt, but you can buy unlocked iPhones on many places, including internet and they dont cost $960 What you're paying the extra money for, for the Freerunner, is the freedom of doing whatever you want with your phone. Sure, the iPhone has their SDK released, but all applications still have to go through Apple to operate on your phone -- I don't know if the SDK even allows you to build an application just for your own iPhone to test it. Also, their mobile OS is closed source -- you have no access to hack or tweak it to do *exactly* what you want it to. You can't change the applications that come with the phone, you can't do a lot of things. Of course, thats why I want a FreeRunner!! but in the next months surely you can buy an unlocked iPhone 3G on ebay or the chinatown for $200 USD, and it affects the sales of FreeRunner, remember that GT02 is designed for mass production, not only for geeks like us who love free software _ Stop squinting -- view your photos on your TV. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/default.mspx?deepLink=photos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price - Things clear
Hello, This post is going further my expectations :) so, lets put the things in order: 1) FreeRunner and its freedom is the best, so we dont need an argue about the good reasons to buy one :) 2) In countries where you have to sign a two year contract, the iPhone 3G will be more expensive at the end, but this is not the situation of everyone. 3) Apple will say all time that you will have to sign a contract to get an iPhone, but in the reality they do nothing to stop people unlocking phones and selling them without ATT contracts around the world (check ebay before telling again you have to sign a contract!!!), because they get money for that phones anyway. So I expect iPhones 3G being sold for $199 USD without any contract around the world, and for most people does not matter if this is legal or not. 4) FreeRunner is a product, and need sales to survive. I will buy a Freerunner instead an iPhone because i want a free phone, but many people would prefer to buy an unlocked-hacked-nocontract iPhone on ebay for $199 than an OpenMoko for $399. am I clear enough? furthermore the freedom, there is a war for the smartphones market and a freephone have to be competitive in price, not only in quality and philosophy. Best wishes _ Get your fix of news, sports, entertainment and more on MSN Mobile http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
Is what they always say, like microsoft saying their serial codes will not be hacked... but after one week someone finds a hack that activates the phone without ATT and two weeks after you see unlocked phones in the street, i have no idea where the dealers get them, but you find the unlocked phones just a little more expensive than the phones in contract, and when the situation is out of control, Apple starts selling phones without contract... I am not guessing, it happened with the first generation of iPhones Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:07:07 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price Are you sure about that? According to Engadget [1] you will have to activate the contract in shop which seems to suggest a pretty bum deal if you plan on then unlocking it and selling it at $200. If you do I will buy one from you at that price ;) http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-purchase-and-activation-will-be-in-store-only/ 2008/6/10 Jorge . : [snip] Of course, thats why I want a FreeRunner!! but in the next months surely you can buy an unlocked iPhone 3G on ebay or the chinatown for $200 USD, and it affects the sales of FreeRunner, remember that GT02 is designed for mass production, not only for geeks like us who love free software _ Stop squinting -- view your photos on your TV. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/default.mspx?deepLink=photos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Send funny voice messages packed with tidbits from MSN. Everyone wants to be ready. http://www.noonewantstolookdumb.com?OCID=T001MSN54N1613A ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price - Things clear
Robert Taylor wrote: On the new Iphones, you HAVETO get a 2 year contract. If you decide to quit you will pay a fee that will total up greater than the $600 the phone is worth. The first iPhone was released june 29/2007 and the first hacked that allow you to use it with any operator was announced on july 9/2007. It will happen again and unlocked iPhones 3G will be available, it does not matter if the first bunch are stolen, second hand or refurbished, it short time everyone will be able to buy an iPhone 3G without contract for almost the same price than it contract. Then we will be able to compare unsubsidized iphones with moko. until that moment lets end the flame :-) but if I am right the iPhone will be cheaper even unsubsidized. (although i would buy a moko anyway) furthermore the freedom, there is a war for the smartphones market and a freephone have to be competitive in price, not only in quality and philosophy. This is only true if you do what you are insisting on doing, comparing things that are not of equal value. While it is fine for consumers to be ignorant of these facts and actually think your argument is valid, it's not correct on this thread as you are clearly educated and understand the reality of the situation. not equal value? Moko, iPhone, iRiver, Blackberry... we are talking about smartphones, and money is money. If you buy an orange, and apple or a pinable you pay with money!! every fruit have advantages and disadvantages, but you pay anyway _ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
ian douglas wrote: By my calculations below, a consumer buying an iPhone or a Freerunner, and using ATT for a voice/data plan, is going to spend about $2600 over two years no matter which phone they buy. Jorge's original posting in this thread said the following: the new iPhone 3G price was announced, and the 8 Gigas version will cost only $199 USD and now the FreeRunner is less competitive than the iPhone in terms of price. He was asking about straight out-of-pocket expense, not about subsidies. The end consumer is only going to see the price tag on the phone itself. EXACTLY!! a GNU/Linux geek will see the difference, but GTA02 is for mass production, and i am afraid the price will discourage buyers for the same reasons your are telling The consumer will look at the iPhone and see a price of $199. Then they'll look at the Freerunner and see a price tag of $399. EXACTLY AGAIN! The Freerunner would perhaps be cheaper if the consumer buys pay as you go minutes/data instead of a monthly plan. Excepting if you can buy an unlocked iPhone for less than $399 USD, because in most countries you can buy pay as you go minutes for any phone. The Freerunner would *definitely* be cheaper if they buy the iPhone and start buying applications through iTunes for their phone. Of course, iTunes aplications are horribly expensive and non-free!! If you want to compare the total cost, compare the total cost of buying the new iphone UNLOCKED at retail cost (you can't) plus the data package and THEN we can talk. But the consumer isn't asked to pay the full unlocked price of the iPhone. Just because ATT subsidizes the phone by lessening the profit they make on the $100/month you'll pay them for using their service, Also true _ Get your fix of news, sports, entertainment and more on MSN Mobile http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
