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at ecore_main.c:87 20 0x0806db62 in
> #main (argc=1, argv=0xbfaa9804) at e_main.c:941
>
> probably because of
>
> Error connecting to bus: Failed to connect to
> socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
>
> My unstable chroo
fnitely not installed the same
place e is installed :) do you have more than 1 install of e? did u install
e17 in /opte17 or /usr and install illume with a different prefix?
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > setup - so use x-ui.sh in the illume s
ages Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.01]
> > 24 pages shared Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: [275269.01]
> > 0 pages swap cached Aug 20 22:13:23 om-gta02 user.err kernel:
> > [275269.015000] Out of memory: kill process 1277 (hald) score 308 or a child
> > Aug 20
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> >
> > no.. you need to find who is leakin
ily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made kernel
overcommit.. a tunable parameter! and... cunningly.. on the FR (and as wel on
my desktop) it's turned off! :) so... a moot point really. :)
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entirely!
yes.. this requires work on the part of app authors in userspace. but it's the
right thing to do (imho).
anyway - the same userspace oom daemon can then choose to kill processes should
the situation become dire - and in this case it could be sure NOT to kill X,
window manager, la
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> >> Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTEC
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> > 1. colors. what's up with your colors? are you on ppc? the 16bit engine
> > assumes identical endianess to th
but even WinCE has it... and we have no
such ability right now - no standard... so we are stuck with uglier hacks as
the only solution. :(
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> > and luckily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made
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> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ut
> there you're already in big trouble if you have to fallback on the
> oom-killer.
true - and the kernel oom killer should mostly handle this, BUT it is possible
to do better. a userspace oom killer can trawl all .desktop files and thus know
if the app is run by
onsidering its a bytecode vm. it's also used very rarely
in edje files - only when simple event -> response logic fails and more is
needed.
you might seriously want to learn more about the code before you evaluate it
and poopoo it as many of the things you have assumed are just totally
}
> }
> programs {
>program { name: "go_active";
> signal: "e,state,selected";
> source: "e";
> action: STATE_SET "selected" 0.0;
> target: "bg";
> target: "fg1";
> tar
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said:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:31:43 +0100 Helge Hafting
> > said:
> >
> >> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> >
> >> When I try
your themes - reduce
thew workload for the renderer. a scalecache DOES help. i have checked. its
a visible difference. :) it just needs to be done so it doesnt cause
instability :) thats on my todo actually in the next few weeks.
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said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) writes:
> > actually nothing floating point here at all. all integer. evas actually
> > scales quite fast. considering its scaling everything on the fly... with
> >
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:44:12 +0100 Helge Hafting said:
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> > i really suggest you have a better look at the code. it uses timepoints.
>
> Good advice. Critic based on assumptions isn't good enough.
> Still, the problem remai
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:01:51 +0100 Petr Vanek said:
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) (CH(R) wrote:
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> >remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually
> >works just fine on the more modern devic
ing that it is possible in this case to
have your cake, and eat it too - with incredibly trivial/little effort. it's a
little surprising that it wasn't done this way from the start just to retain
portability and support for everything else at the same time. :)
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he was wrong that they fired me though. :)
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. you don't un-postpone if you just let all the people go who work
on the software).
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to qvga.
please dig over the archives of this list. this has been gone over in gory
detail before :)
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nything that is plugged
will have a big chance of coming loose in these events). if you are willing to
accept a phone more the size of an n800 (no longer fits nicely in a pocket)...
t might be doable...
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a waste of
> time.
draping?
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> > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:23:38 +0200 Tobias Diedrich > +openm...@tdiedrich.de> said:
> >
> >
> >> Iain B. FIndleton wrote:
> >>
> >>> A significant issue fo
on a separate list. Some of these discussions have already started.
>
> What can you do to help?
> 1. Move GTA02 code upstream.
> 2. Stay Involved.
> 3. Continue work on applications
> 4. Buy a FreeRunner.
> 5. Get involved in GTA03 discussions
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> Best,
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>
han vga, and more appropriate to the hw behind it - but there was
pretty much a very vocal group saying "hell no way". so vga it is. you are free
to try run it at qvga if you want - but i suspect you wont have many friends
following you :)
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> > beware of jumping all over 3d as the solution. i have recently been
> > working on a gles2 engine for evas. i have run it on 2 platf
on on the future of the Neo.
> > As it seems Openmoko stopped funding FSO too.
>
> hello, are there any 3G phones which run debian and spport all the hardware
> yet?
no. (if there are.. it's news to me and i'd like to know).
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etc.). otherwise.. i'll skip the rest
and go easy :) just some suggestions. otherwise.. good job! :)
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than refresh the screen by a large margin (whereas on
most other gfx systems ever since.. it has been faster to write than refresh -
so you can wait for vblank then quickly write knowing you will stay ahead of
the rescan).
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
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the way to make it as sensational as possible.
sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half
the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a
pretty boring media. :)
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image
> that is fairly far from readable.
> * The best place I know of to find Arabic speaking FOSS related
> activity is project Arabeyes - http://arabeyes.org/. Sadly, it
> appears that the project is fairly inactive for some time now.
the reversed stuff has re
ddle of the window - swipe to scroll) i chose
not to try and push the work back onto the app to adapt to a limited window
side.
in reality - apps should probably handle this themselves. i know e's config
dialogs mostly dont fit - but that is a todo item. it's being worke
ot at all about e or gtk or qt, but what to
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written in fltk and it's lightning fast with a small footprint.
> What do you guys think about a stack (on top of debian for convenience)
> that uses flwm and everything else in fltk?
isn't fltk just a wrapper around gtk?
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now u cant drag those anymore if the window is too bit as it will scroll the
window, not move the scrollbar inside the window or the slider.
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key: x y;
key2: x;
block2 {
key1: x y;
}
}
etc. etc. etc. no need for escapes, all on one line etc. etc. etc. in addition
you can also make use of cpp macros as edje_cc passes the .edc through cpp
before parsing (ie use #include, #define macros #ifdef's etc.)
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> > > > won't be many things left you could purchase.
> > > >
> > > > btw: that whole question is not at all about e or gtk or qt, but what
> > > > to expect from a frre device -- and that question in turn has been
> > > > discussed in extenso already.
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2 I can understand now. As for point 3, I can't really see
> > > how that is a benefit.
> >
> > so getting new improvements quickly (instead of waiting years for it or it
> > never happening) is bad?
> That seems to me like a "fallacy of many questions". If it is important,
> please consider rewriting that last question.
not really - but things improving is good. if things just stagnate and dont
change you are stuck where you are. bugs, lack of features, tools, uses, etc.
will plague you and you continually work around them or just give up and dont
do them. it's never a bad thing for thnigs to get better quickly. if they are
constantly unstable - that is bad. but reduced instability and more features..
is good. especially if it comes rapidly.
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them though. as
for apt-get install - you'll need to find some new repositories for that. we
are actually preparing a snap of efl right now. elementary isn't included
thoguh.
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> > http://www.rasterman.com/files/wp2.avi
> >
> > (i'm not done with it yet).
>
> This is 100% astonishing and sexy - I want that on my desktop :P
> Co
> typical scenarios would probably be from sms/email to another sms/email
> or web browser and vice-versa. Any ideas?
nothing to do with e/illume, all to do with toolkit.
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t put that selection in the
copy buffer, and going anywhere else to paste will paste it.
so it's there in elementary -= handling copy/paste with fingers on a
touchscreen. but other toolkits will have a .. harder time.
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xv support are really great news! :)
> What about xrand and composite?
xglamo had xv support ever since (long before gta02 went on sale). i even
quoted performance numbers using accelerated xv in xglamo long ago.
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>
> Do you remember the subject of that thread?
> I'm trying to find it,only for curiosity
godd.. beats me. i'd just search for "yuv" "glamo" xv" "fps" like this:
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> If there is no swap out solution. I would just don't bother.
bingo. stic to x. it buys you gtk, qt, sdl, gl, blah blah blah all at oince
with the management environment already known and developed. it's trivial yo
develop for ON your desktop.. as thats already your windowi
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:24:55 +0100 Tilman Baumann said:
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> On 27 Apr 2009, at 02:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
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> > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:38:20 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> > > >
> > said:
> >>
> >> Recent
the popup menu
> goes under the topbar...
yeah. that's a generic problem i have to fix with the hoversel - it doesnt
account for window bounds at all. add that to the long list of things to do! :)
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and just iconify its window?
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nding/handling so it finds the existing
instance of itself and ipc's asking it to show its window again - much like
firefox does or a whole bunch of apps these days can do.
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i missed, please redirect me to the correct
> page. Thanks.
tried scp? :) nice and easy. sshfs is another option if u want it from a gui
fm...
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ork for smartphones,this time provided by big
> >> guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
> >> web site. any clue any one?
>
> Mumble mumble... may they join/fund FSO guys? :)))
somehow... i just don't see that happening.
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the simple version it seems is that they simply don't like fso's api. marcel
holtmann said its too low-level and they don't see it as something they want.
ask them for more
oo much.
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> >>
> >
> > Um.. We are very much alive and well -- That's official.
> > Thanks for caring.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Will (I work here)
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> According to the wiki, you and Sean are the only
window anyway,
so all you really need to do is, on resize, query x for the orientation, if
orientation matters. if it doesn't just adjusting to the new size is what you
should be doing anyway.
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d so you need to rotate the camera image back, but no
camera on freerunner)
2. you have some special markers/buttons around the screen that you have
buttons/indicators referring to these. (not on freerunner)
other than that window resize events are all you need (and if you need a new
custom layout - t
e that is not that :) ask mirko.
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able to feel were the key is as you have 2 edges (left and right)
closer and more likey to be under 1 fingertip and "feelable". but absolutely
not a touchscreen.
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not more accurate u get zero key press as opposed to the one you wanted when its
a square. then you aways get a press - the question is - are you so far off that
u pressed the wrong key.
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y to write small commands in the
> terminal.
go for it. that is why i made the dic format so simple - i paid a big price in
compute overhead to use that dict.
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er.. I got two software patents
> (company forced me to), wanna read them?
NO! never! i shall poke my eyes out first and fill my ears
with cement! :)
/me heads back to his safe patent ignorance zone :)
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f a tiny prtion of the tip of the triangle
> and you have a parallelogram... hmm just a tiny portion.. say a two
> pixel wide section
i wonder what a judge/jury would say to such technical "bypassing"? :)
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stylus is better, but the ts isnt very sensitive)
> yes, you substitute one error for the other. the issue is the probablity
> of those errors and the time to correct..
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> no harm in testing the approach, if somebody has time on their hands
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n u have a stylus - u can be quite accurate and hit the key
you want regardless of shape! :)
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hind x's back to fiddle with backlight and play
with /sys/* is bad).
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is just one of several gadgets).
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> about 10 inches. So the FR should be set to about 110 dpi. This would have
> about the same effect as using a font size of 5 points.
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ather small and lean.
extensions exist to do just about everything. very little does not exist in
some x extension these days.
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you'd have to
write a "forked" x with all sorts of hooks higher up. - but it's possible...
and then x client work as they always did - and get more use of the hardware :)
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do all
their gfx ops WITHOUT a single round trip (thus no cache flush) and they only
flush on final draw of everything - so just once per frame really (for the app).
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n terms of
performance and i have other much better and more important platforms to
support as well :)
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Ope
lable then.
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:01:51 +0100 "Nicola Mfb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 2008/11/17 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> no - it's not possible to do a "scroll" (via blit) as you have
> > alpha ch
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