Re: [Germany] GSM Prepaid offer from Tchibo: user2user calls free for next 24 months

2007-07-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ortwin! Sorry for my bad english - and missing activitiy on this list for the examens period... Ortwin Regel schrieb am Friday, den 27. July 2007 um 15:22h: Only Tchibo - Tchibo calls are free, and only for 24 months if you buy before 2007-08-09. Calls to old Tchibo sims and Sims sold

[Germany] GSM Prepaid offer from Tchibo: user2user calls free for next 24 months

2007-07-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, sorry that this is only a tip for OpenMoko people in Germany - there is a quite interesting offer since today: Prepaid SIM for 5 Euro with free calls to other SIMs (users) of this special sold offer for the next 24 month. I haven't found a limitation of minutes/month.

Re: Audio I/O questions

2007-03-28 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 28. März 2007 um 08:38h: On Wednesday 28 March 2007 00:52:20 Robert Michel wrote: Ahh.. I can hear it with the Neo1973 headset as well, wenn I pull out the headset for 0,7mm - mybe my 2,5 mm 4 pin jack is not accurat enough. I got

Audio I/O questions

2007-03-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I'm very happy that the Neo1973 has - stero headphone out - mono mic in (for headset) this give us much power for having much fun with the neo. : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Hardware#Analog_wired_Headset Analog wired Headset There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which

Master Studies in Embedded systems starts in Pforzheim/Germany

2007-03-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Seems that this master courses are not given in English: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/87322 http://es.hs-pforzheim.de/menue/frame_ma_es.htm Is here someone on the list with good contacts to the hs-pforzheim? Do you have ideas how to make OpenMoko populare there? rob

I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :((

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Michel
Mike (or better everybody new to this project/list)! I'm in favor to welcome everybody on this list, to respect him and to help that his interest, effort and skills will be supported and answered that it is most efficent for him and the community. But as hard as I try to stay patient and

Re: Creating a SIP client for the OpenMoko

2007-03-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Chuck! On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Chuck Pareto wrote: I was thinking about getting a Sip phone to use with the Gizmo Voip service (my friend is using it and loves it), but then thought about creating a Sip/Voip client to run on the OpenMoko. Does anyone know if this would be possible? Of

Asterisk Channel Driver to allow Bluetooth Cell/Mobile Phones to be used as FXO devices.

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! A good friend of mine told me that there is a new patch out for asterisk to use a mobile with Bluetooth for *inbound* calls ;))) chan_cellphone-- Use Bluetooth cell / mobile phones as FXO devices see: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8919 --snipp-- Asterisk Channel Driver to allow

also people.openmoko.org Re: Wiki is open

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tomasz,*! On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: It looks like http://wiki.openmoko.org is open to public :-) GREAT stuff there : Also under people.openmoko.org - I asked Mickey and all pictures and documents there are also for the public :)) like:

And please use a emailclients with working Reference Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard, *! I full agree with you! But dubbel mails from gmail is IMHO not the worst - it is starting new threads with every answer be not using working Referneces or In-Replay-To On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Richard Bennett wrote: Hi, Why so many people who believe in the ideals put

Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working Reference Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Excuse me, I myself was writing once here on this list about respect and to give everybody a warm welcome. The best solution for mailinglist formal things would be personal mails with explaination... Robert Michel schrieb am Dienstag, den 13. Februar 2007 um 13:57h: The gmailers here

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working Reference Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve hank! Thank you for your feedback ;) On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, hank williams wrote: You are misinformed if you believe that gmail does not handle threads properly. Maybe, it would be nice when other gmail users explain gmail users how to use gmail proper, instead of that I have to inform

Great ;) Re: Storage + Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

2007-02-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! Harald Welte schrieb am Sonntag, den 11. Februar 2007 um 22:21h: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:05:03PM +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote: Any news on this? I'm not holding by breath for 4GB, but has 2GB been confirmed? Sandisk 2GB SDSDQU-2048-E10M works just fine. Thank you for this

You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ryan! On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Ryan Kline wrote: So I propose that all members of the Open Moko mailing lists may have a priority on purchassing a phone for testing/troubleshooting (of course) if theire is some devices left after develpppers. :):):) I'll drink to that (when i'm

Re: You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ryan! Ryan Kline schrieb am Montag, den 12. Februar 2007 um 14:54h: Actually, I will wait. This is fine. ;) But I fear, you got me wrong. I think I will wait. I do understand that this community drinks, but I do not feel pressured to do the same. and [when] you have someday

[3GSM] Feb 6, 2007: Funambol Shows Open Source Push Email, Contacts and Calendars for Everyone at 3GSM World Congress.

2007-02-06 Thread Robert Michel
Source: http://www.funambol.com/press/Funambol_3GSM07_release.pdf :) --snipp-- Funambol Shows Open Source Push Email, Contacts and Calendars for Everyone at 3GSM World Congress Funambol demos mobile email portal for consumers, open source Java client for mass market devices and OpenMoko platform

Thoughts about Bluetooth equipement - does somebody knows a Bluetooth camera?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Some thoughts about Bluetooth equipment: -Keyboard -Mouse -Headset -Carkit -PC/Laptop/Router with Bluetooth -printer -soundgateway(?) -embedded devices with Bluetooth -other bluetooth mobiles to do converence calls or when the Neo1973 v1 hasn't GPRS class A - to use GRPS while phoning *g*

Re: Thoughts about Bluetooth equipement - does somebody knows a Bluetooth camera?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! It seems that http://www.bluetooth.com/ has a good overview - we could pick devices from their when they are supported with Linux. Somethink like linux-usb.org would be nice. Robert Michel schrieb am Sonntag, den 04. Februar 2007 um 15:34h: So what more? Are there digital cameras

enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I don't know how much enviroment friendly development was criteria for the v1 - but this point would be nice to consider - at last for v2: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/copy-of-how-the-companies-line OpenMoko will enable the user to use the phone

Airplain mode Re: Cellular usage

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Kyle! Wellcome to the openmoko community mailinglist ;) On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Kyle wrote: I hope I am posting this properly. I was thinking about my infrequent airline trips and their dislike of cell phones. Is there any possibility to turn off the transmitter in software? Yes the

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tomasz! On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: 2007/2/4, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't get me wrong, I don't ask for making all better from the beginning - but on the longterm, it would be nice to promote OpenMoko/Neo1973 also with ecological criterias. Average

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Robert Michel writes: You can still use phones made in 60's, are you sure touchscreen will survive 40 years too? ;-) First I was comparing mobil phones, second, because the touchscreen has no mechanical parts, I think it is possible

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! Oleg L. Sverdlov schrieb am Sonntag, den 04. Februar 2007 um 23:36h: All this is good. a) how the company (FIC) is supposed to make a profit by manufacturing less phones? Who is saying that FIC should produce less phones ;) When FIC is producing phones which are usable 2-5

Re: AT commands (Re: But wich GSM chip? Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?))

2007-02-03 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! Harald Welte schrieb am Samstag, den 03. Februar 2007 um 14:49h: I put the list into the wiki - it would be fine to mark out which are not the optional ones and how to use them. So from this list, every contribution, commentation of this commands are welcome. For

What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Bryce,*! Some video information given by Sean in november: http://www.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000340.html On Fri, 02 Feb 2007, Bryce Leo wrote: Yeah, for management. Actual Video decoding is done by a dedicated chip, Broadcom BCM2722. Good find. I guess i

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
be lower On 2/2/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salve! Does anybody has experiances/ideas about Voice over GPRS? How long is the delay? It could maybe used for asyncron voice communication Talk2Talk (instead of pushing a button) In Germany did three Prepaid Provider published

Ok I should write _asyncrone_ Voice over GPRS in the subject from the beginning ... ; )

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! On Fri, 02 Feb 2007, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: * Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070202 18:18]: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Also, most data plans specifically prohibit VoIP usage and may even prevent it technically.

What more to add to http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/GPRS ? Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Paul! Paul Wouters schrieb am Freitag, den 02. Februar 2007 um 18:13h: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Robert Michel wrote: Does anybody has experiances/ideas about Voice over GPRS? See: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rc277/globe02.pdf Thank you, I direcly put this good source into our wiki

Re: Crytped calls through 9600Baud GSM-data connections?

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Paul! Paul Wouters schrieb am Freitag, den 02. Februar 2007 um 20:43h: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Robert Michel wrote: Did you discussed OTP, using less mobile device batterypower to add to the voicestream to build an encrypted connection between on users mobil and his homeserver

Re: Other uses for the gsm/gprs hardware....

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tim! On Fri, 02 Feb 2007, Tim Newsom wrote: While the phone is not on a call, can we use the gsm audio codec or other hardware/software to do useful work? For instance, decoding of some audio file or something like that. Yes but not with the GSM IC - the Neo1973 itself has a quite

2-3 flavours ; ) Re: the power of defaults Re: Any alternative ideas to fullscreen popup-messages?

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Bryan,Mickey,*! IMHO an important usergroup for OpenMoko/Neo1973 (in the beginning) will be *nix administrators, developers and maintainers. A comfortable ssh client will makes their smartphone to a mobile terminal - that the device is trustworthy is very important... They are used to use

[moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Fred! Welcome to the OpenMoko community. :) On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am new to this mailing list. I have not seen any email mentioning Ruby and Rails. Can anyone please forward old emails relating to ruby in openmoko? please use google with

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve denis! denis schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 11:03h: I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. AFAIK the Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs (beside the screen backlight and

11 Lanuages :) Re: Wikipedia update

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sergio! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Sergio Bessa wrote: OpenMoko in Portuguese http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko Great! I have also seen that we have a finish version new as well! Was it your work, Janni-Matti? So that makes 11 languages now :))) Hey this is fun and shows how powerfull

One general wish - let us make encryption as easy then possible!

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! paranoid on Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 19:28h: Well, you're not wrong, certainly: people use MMS even though it _is_ horribly broken (and expensive, etc.) I guess the point I'm attempting to make here is that in addition to the

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! First it sounds a very smart idea to have biometric security, but sorry, when I give you some sceptical feedback. On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Ben Burdette wrote: Here are a couple of items for the phone wish list: data encryption and biometric security. Biometric security wasn't

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mary! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Mary Stovel wrote: I can set up my voip service to forward calls to my cell (or any or multiple numbers). Because my home phone calls are less expensive than my cell calls...when I am at home, I would like my cell phone calls to ring over to my home

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mark! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Heilpern, Mark wrote: Watching things like tv's MythBusters defeat fingerprint sensors is interesting and entertaining, but when you know they're using several year old, out-dated technology for the sensors they evaluate, you might suspect that there's more

Re: AT commands (Re: But wich GSM chip? Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?))

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! Thank you for the list. On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:11:53AM -0800, Dimitris Kogias wrote: Isn't the AT-capable port going to be available to userland via a serial abstraction? If so, its AT command profile won't be a secret very long.

Q: How does USB hubs work? Re: Multiple USB Devices

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Michael Fletcher wrote: I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem to find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB HUB into the 1973. So that for example the phone can charge, have a USB WiFi dongle attached and

Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Suresh! I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you. The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody has to use patience when things will be published. And also the official realease would create more feedback when they are able to publish unpublished fakts ... :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary Re: Translators needed?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Engin! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk wrote: In my opinion the translations must be done professionally for such a product like this. Instead of volunteers who are not professionals, volunteers who are professionals and volunteer who can provide a professional translation must

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary Re: Translators needed?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Engin! I like your motivation and your will to find a some experienced in localisation/translation. You have the experiance with the localization of RSSOwl and that the help of 3 friends seems not to be enought to reach a professional translation. On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk

We have alread 9 languages! :) Re: Translators needed?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve José! Your offer started a very fruitfull thread - thank you! On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, José Suárez wrote: Hi to everybody. I've been quite excited about the OpenMoko development and release schedule. I'm pretty sure I would like to buy one Neo1973 when they were available and became

Re: Is vim included out-of-the-box or shall i port? (was: Re: Development environment

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richi! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of vim, will vim (or another derivitive of vi) be among the included applications, or shall I try cross-compiling it right now? (I can't live w/out vim). To

2-3 parallel solution to choose by the user? Re: Any alternative ideas to fullscreen popup-messages?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mickey! I think many users could live with popups, but I would like to choose a solution that would not nag me with full or havesize popups I mean on the longterm, but as official design of Openmoko, working with every aplication. On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:

I proposed to move to the community mailinglist Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve David! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, David Ford wrote: p.s. the subject line is no crossposting! which list do people want this to remain on? I think it is clear that it is a general talk about SMS/MMS and not the question how to use the SDK, how to crosscompiling. Without a clear seperation

Wikipedia update :) Re: We have alread 9 languages! :) Re: Translators needed?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Krzysztof! Great! Krzysztof Kajkowski schrieb am Mittwoch, den 31. Januar 2007 um 22:03h: 2007/1/31, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please all visit: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Translation and add your name when you like to join. Polnish seems to get a strong

Charging while using USB devices possible? Re: Multiple USB Devices

2007-01-30 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Michael! On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Michael Fletcher wrote: I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem to find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB HUB into the 1973. So that for example the phone can charge, have a USB WiFi dongle attached and

Email Push Service :) smtp+dnotify+Asterisk+... :)

2007-01-30 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, I can't understand why Blackberry and other has become so big into the market, because the server side software for a push service are normal linux admins tools. But wait - the client side need some open programmable devices - like OpenMoko and the Neo1973 :))) When GPRS is always on,

[moved to openmoko-community]Re: Translators needed?

2007-01-30 Thread Robert Michel
Salve José! Welcome to Openmoko :) I'm just a student tring to support the community, so we do not have an official list moderator, and the official openmoko team member are very busy. Your mail was send to the wrong list... On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, José Suárez wrote: Hi to everybody. I've been

Re: idea: second SIM card support

2007-01-30 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Myk! Welcome to openmoko community :) On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Myk Melez wrote: I live in the US but regularly travel to Hungary, and I have a second SIM card for use abroad. I know it's too late for v1, but for future versions of the phone, I'd find it useful for the phone to support

Re: Q: desktop software?

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Bryce! On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Bryce Leo wrote: I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. That sounds like a fantastic idea. It should be pretty simple to get something like FreeNX up and running on the

Re: Silent mode timeout

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! Good idea ;) On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Ben Burdette wrote: A simple feature that I'd like to see is a silent mode timeout. What always happens with my current phone is I set it to silent mode because I'm in a movie or a meeting, and then later I forget to turn the ringer back on.

transparent effect to overlay two calender Re: idea: World Clock

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mary,*! Nice idea :) On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Mary Stovel wrote: The pictures of the Neo show a clock. Will this be a world clock? I would like that the normal calendar shows time of daylight - brigher background during the local day - darker background during the nigth (maybe

Hint for all webmail-user Re: Hint for gmail-users: How to mute a conversation

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sencer,*! First I thought your tipp would be to avoid 100 lines of quote by using a webmailer To avoid that non gmail-users thing that mailing with gmail is more comfortable/better than with a normal emailclient my tipp: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Sencer wrote: Hello fellow

Re: Hint for all webmail-user Re: Hint for gmail-users: How to mute a conversation

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Declan! Declan Naughton schrieb am Sonntag, den 28. Januar 2007 um 13:59h: You can also unsubscribe from the list @ https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community :) Other lists: https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ Will this help to let the community grow? I don't

Re: Q: desktop software?

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Oleg L. Sverdlov wrote: What software is planned on desktop side? If any. I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. Then a full emulation to use the full Neo1973 power (beside

lightwight good XHTML webbrowser? Re: wap browser? any better one than wApua?

2007-01-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jose! Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente schrieb am Samstag, den 27. Januar 2007 um 03:43h: WAP 2.0 supports XHTML-Basic and XHTML-Mobile Profile, so use a XHTML browser instead... Old WML is dead! Hmm, e.G. the German Railway http://wap.bahn.de is still using wml 1.0 so what will

Re: Position of u-SD slot?

2007-01-27 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Michael! On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Michael Dickens wrote: I'm interested in making use of the u-SD slot with a card much like the Spectec microSDIO WiFi 11g Card, but one developed in house for more general wireless networking. I assume that the u-SD slot is accessed via the back

Re: Combine a SoC and memory on a SD card or Usb device...Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Marcin! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia pi?tek, 26 stycznia 2007 13:55, Robert Michel napisa?: For real paranoid sellers: Build a chip with memory and an embedded system on a microSD card or mini usb device and sell this. Use an unique encryption for every

Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve David! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, David Schlesinger wrote: ACCESS is a participating member of both OSDL's Mobile Linux Initiative and of the Linux Phone Standards Forum--I'm acting chair of the MLI Steering Committee and vice-chair of LiPS' Architectural Working Group--and we've

Re: Some thoughts about the real importanted dates for OpenMoko/Neo1973 3GSM World 2007 Barcelona this year ...Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
that? Is it realy so hart to spend patients for 2-3 weeks? hu? Now to Marcus answer: On 1/25/07, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 03:42 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I don't think that people buy a new phone to going on holiday with the new phone - AFAIK the most

Unified message menue? pictures? Re: CallWave

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jesse! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Jesse Ross wrote: There was some mention on this list a while ago about an iPhone-style Visual Voicemail system. I wouldn't mention apple as refference for this idea - apple like to claim patents for solutions and like to sue... The following service could

Glossary Re: Communications (was Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?)

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richi! Good point! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote: And with that, let me state that I think it important to use Figures of Speech as little as possible in these mailing list. For one thing, many of the members of these lists don't have English as their primary language (I know

Re: CallWave

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Peter! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Peter A Trotter wrote: It's clear the technology is available to make this possible without any crude hacks. We need to make friends with the carriers in so many ways to make this project fly. Why? The Neo1973 could become the voice mailbox in most of the

IMHO only with the power/security of linux-vserver.org :) Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Shu! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: On 1/25/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/01/07, Shu Hung (Koala) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't we just use the Flash for Linux 9 on OpenMoko? It is proprietary software, and using proprietary software is

Re: Speakerphone

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:11:50AM -0500, Gervais Mulongoy wrote: I am not sure how important this feature is for others, but will the Neo1973 have a loud speaker? The Nei1973 has three speakers in total. Two speakers for stereo

To complete the memory questions - and 128 MB RAM? Re: Some thoughts: 1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly? Reply-To:

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! Thank you for your answer - a litte more information like about the technical based flash size of 64MB would avoid some speculations... ;) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: If there was a technical way how we could have put larger NAND flash in the device, we would have

Why not switching automaticaly? Re: Gesture command

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Foucault! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Foucault de Bonneval wrote: I was thinking of BT profiles and of people who constantly move form home to car to office to client ... So changing BT profile must be easier that calling a number or accessing diary, phonebook. matter of personal

Re: intelligent (system-wide) profile switching. gestures and events (Was: Re: Why not switching automaticaly? Re: Gesture command)

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Declan! Maybe is a general system-wide profile switching not intelligent enough? Of course it will be usefull but maybe there will be more possible. Declan Naughton schrieb am Donnerstag, den 25. Januar 2007 um 20:58h: Reading this, a potentially handy feature hit me, so I'm letting

Please no spreading flame wars about licence and free software in every thread!

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
: - respect for the others, - patience, e.g. untill this project starts for the public - and the willingness to join compromises. Dave Crossland schrieb am Donnerstag, den 25. Januar 2007 um 22:56h: On 25/01/07, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking, if the OpenMoko phone had

Some thoughts about the real importanted dates for OpenMoko/Neo1973 3GSM World 2007 Barcelona this year ...Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Marcus,*! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Marcus Bauer wrote: On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list. It shall be. It? Respect is the absolute basic for communication and cooperation. The fact that I didn't answer

sorry s/FPGA/BGA/g Re: Some thoughts: 1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Justyn! Justyn Butler schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 00:47h: Firstly apologies if I've misunderstood what you're saying. :) When it' my failing... But I think it is: can I use the flash chip from inside a USB memory stick to upgrade the neo1973 flash? yes Once I get my

short answer - other feedback is wellcome Re: g quastions

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Eugene! I'm just a student and normal member on this mailinglist, so I don't know more than it was written on this list since November. On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Eugene Kozlov wrote: Hello Can somebody explain What is about hardware licensing? Also open source? (shared pcb schematics,

hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. So for beening on the road, it could be nice to be able to use a USB flash drive directly. Our first idea was to hack the Neo1973 and give some power to the port. Another idea would to solder some capacitor into the memory drive, maybe

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +capacitor(s) +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: Maybe with a small USB connector to avoid the need for an adapter to use with the Neo1973? Just putting the small USB jack on the other side and the USB memory drive becomes dual use. With small or big jack. Would

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: Robert Michel writes: Since last Dezember it is forbidden for the driver to touch a PDA/mobil Ok, I think that's a case of wrong translation. It's forbidden to pickup the phone. you are quite allowed

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jose! Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 08:44h: For exemple, we use it only if we are in a game or if the phone is ringing... If the command were shake to phone to answer, I could accidentally answer the phone while I play with my kids!

Re: hack idea: USB flash memory drive modification- +battery +small usb jack

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! ok, foget my capacitor idea... the capacitor would not have much power after some hours - and charging it every day would be Robert Michel schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:28h: the Neo1973 has an unpowered small size USB port. So for beening on the road, it could

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:49h: * Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:01]: Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 13:48h: Robert Michel writes: Since last Dezember

Ok, one point is cleard - but what is with the external antenna and the general operation lizence of the car?

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Andreas! Andreas Kostyrka schrieb am Mittwoch, den 24. Januar 2007 um 14:58h: * Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070124 14:52]: I'm not a lawyer, but if you read the ticker, the OLG just found that a PDA with a GSM module is to be treated as a mobile. Now, the Adac article claims

consider to use a proxy Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with javascript machine, etc)? Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing. So a Proxy on the Neo

Squeak for the kids! Use Linux-vserver power before giving your Neo to a kid (or someone else) Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you recognized the power of multi-touch gesture recognition http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000258.html Robert Michel schrieb am Samstag, den 25. November 2006 um 04:22h: And for inspiration, remember the video about the squeak educational

Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Sean announced a Neo1973 Car Kit: We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard kit): A Car Kit and a Hacker's Lunchbox. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001006.html I haven't a car (and if, I wouled be no question to choose th H-box)

Conference system / poster wall for the FOSDEM Re: Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 1/23/07 1:38 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Michel wrote: I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 Are you sure? :) I'm speaking. :))) Very

Re: OpenMoko-ID

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Richard Franks wrote: Will we have something like this? Do we want something like this? It could be useful for contact-sharing, authentication, I would like see a decentralized system that also works offline - when I meet a person I'd like to give him a

Re: Neo1973 Car kit - some pittfalls due laws possible?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! Joe Pfeiffer schrieb am Dienstag, den 23. Januar 2007 um 09:00h: Robert Michel writes: but I have some doubts about the Car Kit because I heard that most of cars sold the last 10 years have a gerneal aproval (Allgemeine Betriebserlaubnis) that would expires when a radio

No problem - connect it via USB or Bluetooth Re: keyboard, please!

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve quixote! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, quixote wrote: It could be relatively easy to add a keyboard if it was simply an added hinged component, i.e. you had much the same shape, but it would be twice as thick (and heavy) for those of us desperate to have keyboards, and it would open on the

BTW could be the protocolls propritary and with the need to pay licence fees? Re: BT Vehicle Profiles

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Marcin, *! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia wtorek, 23 stycznia 2007 17:41, Duncan Hudson napisa?: 1. Get any Linux powered device into car system range. 2. Run 'hcitool scan' 3. Identify line which match car system. 4. Run 'sdptool browse ADDRESS_OF_CAR_SYSTEM|grep

Re: GPS Outage

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Foucault! On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Foucault de Bonneval wrote: just two points about GPS : - will the Neo have a GPS connexion for an external antenna. Because some car glass don't let signals go through and some people I know had to buy antennas for Tomtom (pare brise athermique in French)

Some thoughts: 1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?

2007-01-23 Thread Robert Michel
Salve, Just some question and possible answer (I'm no expert): what will be the difference beween the 64MB NAND Flash memory of the Neo and 1GB NAND Flash inside a USB memory device I have bought for 12 Euro like: http://www.priz24.de/product_info.php?products_id=1970 ? So in case there will no

IMHO more a viewer problem and not a display problem one ; ) - better pdf and webbrower Re: Idea for one of the next Neos: Projecting the display via LEDs

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Uwe! On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Uwe Koch wrote: it's still always the same problem: Mobile phones' displays are to small (size or resolution) to view documents, ebooks, whatever - but they are small to carry with. On the other hand PDAs are to large to carry with but are a better solution

Let us not forget to give every new one a *very* warm welcome - Let us write a welcome message to all new subscriber! HowTo search the Mailinglist archive:http://www.google.de/search?hl=deq=python+si

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jose and all new or old subscriber of this list! As much as I'm happy that new people join this mailing list, please consider that some hundreds or thousands people are on this list and repeating low level question will generate noise. So again, I'm very happy that many new people find the

Re: Phone for the blind

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Warren! On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Warren Noronha wrote: Is there a text to speech feature planned. I ask this cause a while back a friend of mine who works with the blind, was looking out for phone to for his students (who are blind) Do you know this thread:

Re: Is python built-in

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mikko! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: On ma, 2007-01-22 at 14:10 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: I seriously doubt it. I found python RPM and it has about 10 MB *compressed*. All default Neo1973 software (including kernel

As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Soeren! On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will the neo have some other i/o ports forwarded to the outside besides the usb port and audio jack? AFAIK unhappyly not. i'd be intersted if there is one to do spi with a microcontroller. if not, would there be one iside the

Some IO hack ideas...Re: As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve soeren! [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Montag, den 22. Januar 2007 um 17:23h: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:00:52PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I hope you (and other hardware hackers) are not to much disapointed and do use OpenMoko and Neo1973 for cool and interesting projects and hacks

Yes, let as walk into on room and you'll hanging out with us all, with talking a bit about OpenMoko/Neo1973 :)))) - Re: Sean, do you need a table in Brussel for the FOSDEM 2007? ; ) Re: Neo1973 devi

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Dienstag, den 23. Januar 2007 um 00:41h: On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Sean, when you are at the FOSDEM, do you need a table in BXL? Look: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths Many Open... there, but OpenMoko is still

Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 I'm probably just going to be walking around and hanging out with you all. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001891.html But when he'll bring some or many Neo1973 with

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