RE: $100 computers (was: Microtouch)
>> $100 would also get you Qi Hardware's Nanonote units, which is >> comparable to a Raspberry Pi + monitor + keyboard that you can >> actually carry in your pocket and use on the go (comes with a Li-ion >> battery, runs for ~9 hours in my experience). >> >> I have one. I like it. I use it mainly as a smart music-player; I've >> also written and run some Python and Scheme programs on it (so, it >> makes a nice `programmer's calculator' for, e.g.: solving recursive >> problems). >> >> Not sure what others do with theirs. >> >> A couple of friends also have them, and it seems to take about >> 3 days between ordering from Sharism in Hong Kong and having them >> arrive on our doorsteps in the US. >> >MikroElektronika has variants of this for AVR, ARM and *PIC* $99 http://www.mikroe.com/eng/products/view/688/mikromedia-for-xmega/ > Actually, MikroElectronika seems more along the lines of what I want. I saw the NanoNote a while back, and I just don't like the Makeup Compact look of it. Now to figure out WHICH MikroMedia I want (-= As long as I don't HAVE to buy the programming environment as well. I'm sure gcc can handle the task, right? Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Microtouch
>On 02/07/2012 10:13 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: >>> Subject: Microtouch >>> >>> Just spotted on: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>> >>> Microtouch - The ultimate AVR-based iPhone killer! >>> http://www.ladyada.net/products/microtouch/ >>> >> >> >> Does anyone know how old this is? I've got ~$100 ready to buy it they >> get more in stock. The page says 3-5 days, but not when it was last >> updated. >> I hope the first batch wasn't the only batch. I'd really like to play >> with a<$100 tablet. >It looks like it was originally announced a little over a year ago (Jan 27, 2011.) http://www.adafruit.com/blog?s=microtouch is the blog search for posts related to >the microtouch. Now I'm confused as to whether to get to $90 microtouch with it's cute touch screen and pocket size on an 8-bit microcontroller, or wait and get a raspberryPI for $35 and full Linux, but needs a TV for display??? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Microtouch
> Subject: Microtouch > > Just spotted on: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Microtouch - The ultimate AVR-based iPhone killer! > http://www.ladyada.net/products/microtouch/ > Does anyone know how old this is? I've got ~$100 ready to buy it they get more in stock. The page says 3-5 days, but not when it was last updated. I hope the first batch wasn't the only batch. I'd really like to play with a <$100 tablet. > =) > ~ elf Pavlik ~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GTA04 Group Buy - Status
-Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:49 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners Subject: GTA04 Group Buy - Status >Dear all, > >... > >I think we need to heavily increase the awareness about the GTA04 in the Linux communities! There have been no reports in the usual new channels of the >announcement that the GTA04 is now ready to be ordered. At least I have not seen them. > >And, if I read this: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/smartphone_spying_app/ > >it is obvious why the open and free software community needs a device where every individual has control over the software. > >Some ideas: > >... > >If you have additional ideas, please share! > I first heard about OpenMoko on lwn.net I keep a window open there daily and update it a few times a day to keep up with Linux development. I think someone with good inside info should write a good article for posting on lwn.net and submit it. This should increase visibility greatly. I'm sure there are other sites others use to keep up with Linux. This is just the one I use. >Nikolaus > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Potential buyer
Depends on how you define open and phone. Openmoko, depending on the distro you install and how much you play with it varies from basically usable phone to extremely fun/frustrating hardware that might make occasional calls or texts. I've used it as both over the years I've used mine. For a phone that 'just works' and meets some level of open, there are various Android platforms and ports. HTC recently announced they are unlocking the boot loader for all future HTC 'Droids. How 'open' you consider these is a point of opinion, however for the most part they make great smartphones. I'm now running an HTC 'Droid Incredible as my regular phone and it does most everything I want from a smartphone. But then I don't actually hack much anymore. Also, as mentioned, there IS some work on a next-gen Openmoko-based device. Not much good without the Openmoko chassis, display etc, but it'll be the next ubergeek hacking device for this community. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Have I fried my freerunner?
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Chuck Norris wrote: > 04.03.2011 06:27, John O'Hagan пишет: > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:16:54 + > >> > >> "John O'Hagan" wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> After a couple of years of fairly trouble-free > >>> qtmoko-FR use, I used a cheap in-car charger on a > >>> recent trip. The charger died, and the FR itself > >>> began exhibiting a number of odd behaviours such > >>> as not coming back from suspend, indicating > >>> charging status when it was not charging, > >>> crashing, and after a couple of days, not booting > >>> into qtmoko at all. > >>> > >>> Instead, I get an error like "debugfs dir creation > >>> failed -19", then a Debian login prompt. > >>> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ssh into the > >>> FR to investigate, as it doesn't show up on my > >>> debian laptop as usbX or ethX, only as /dev/ACM0, > >>> so I'm stuck as to how to get the USB networking > >>> going. > > > > [...] > > > >> Woo, don't smells good. > >> But I would try to reflash it with QtMoko once again. or with a > > > > totally > > > >> different distro such as Android. The secodn one has an > > > > installer that > > > >> verbose the output of the flashing progress. This way, you can > > > > see if it > > > >> fails to write on some clusters on the flash. > >> > >> Let us know the results ! > > > > Thanks for your reply. I'm a little confused about what is going on > > in my FR. The fact that I'm getting a Debian login prompt means it > > is actually booting, right? So the problem must be in subsequent > > stages of initialising Qtopia? > > > > Because it's not showing up as /dev/ethX or /devusbX as I > > mentioned, I haven't been able to re-flash it or even back it up > > with neotool, which doesn't find the device. To be honest it's > > been a long time since I flashed it because I've been updating > > qtmoko using apt-get, so I may be doing it wrong. Any advice how > > to ssh into the freerunner in theses circumstances? I needed to reflash both Qi and the rootfs to get a bootable phone, but to no avail: although the reflashing went fine, the FR will no longer charge, although the battery indicator showed charging status. Both my batteries are now dead. Looks like my poor FR took quite a beating from that cheap charger. Any advice how to diagnose/repair this? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMobile.nl Image?
How out of date is the OpenMobile.nl image listed here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#OpenMobile.nl_Download Is it possible to apt-get update from this image? As I no longer have any Linux boxes, except my FreeRunner, this is the least painful way to try qtmoko, but I would prefer a more up-to-date version. Any change of OpenMobile.nl updating it's image? ATM, I'm still running H:1, but it's getting rather out-of-date and I've moved to a Droid Incredible for my daily phone as my daughter got a free upgrade on her unlimited service plan. I.E., I'm free to play with my FreeRunner without having to worry so much about occasional breakages (-= Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Have I fried my freerunner?
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:16:54 + > > "John O'Hagan" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After a couple of years of fairly trouble-free > > qtmoko-FR use, I used a cheap in-car charger on a > > recent trip. The charger died, and the FR itself > > began exhibiting a number of odd behaviours such > > as not coming back from suspend, indicating > > charging status when it was not charging, > > crashing, and after a couple of days, not booting > > into qtmoko at all. > > > > Instead, I get an error like "debugfs dir creation > > failed -19", then a Debian login prompt. > > Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ssh into the > > FR to investigate, as it doesn't show up on my > > debian laptop as usbX or ethX, only as /dev/ACM0, > > so I'm stuck as to how to get the USB networking > > going. > [...] > Woo, don't smells good. > But I would try to reflash it with QtMoko once again. or with a totally > different distro such as Android. The secodn one has an installer that > verbose the output of the flashing progress. This way, you can see if it > fails to write on some clusters on the flash. > > Let us know the results ! Thanks for your reply. I'm a little confused about what is going on in my FR. The fact that I'm getting a Debian login prompt means it is actually booting, right? So the problem must be in subsequent stages of initialising Qtopia? Because it's not showing up as /dev/ethX or /devusbX as I mentioned, I haven't been able to re-flash it or even back it up with neotool, which doesn't find the device. To be honest it's been a long time since I flashed it because I've been updating qtmoko using apt-get, so I may be doing it wrong. Any advice how to ssh into the freerunner in theses circumstances? Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Have I fried my freerunner?
Hi, After a couple of years of fairly trouble-free qtmoko-FR use, I used a cheap in-car charger on a recent trip. The charger died, and the FR itself began exhibiting a number of odd behaviours such as not coming back from suspend, indicating charging status when it was not charging, crashing, and after a couple of days, not booting into qtmoko at all. Instead, I get an error like "debugfs dir creation failed -19", then a Debian login prompt. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ssh into the FR to investigate, as it doesn't show up on my debian laptop as usbX or ethX, only as /dev/ACM0, so I'm stuck as to how to get the USB networking going. Any help appreciated. John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: The epoch is upon me.
OK. I was a little confused about the mention of 2 super caps at the time. That make more sense. I'll have to check for an American source and get one. I've got some rusty soldering skills I can brush up before I attack my phone. Cheers, John Gay From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Deering Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: The epoch is upon me. Jon, I'm don't know how you can be sure the clock battery is to blame, but I just wanted to mention that I replaced the battery with a single supercap. The pair of supercaps was because I have two freerunners. Ben On 12/21/2010 07:55 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The epoch is upon me.
The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MeeGo 1.1 for FreeRunner?
Does anyone know how difficult it would be to port MeeGo to the
FreeRunner?
After all, we don't have enough distro's yet (-=
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RE: Yocto for Openmoko?
>Am Samstag, den 30.10.2010, 13:15 +0400 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: >> > Just saw the announcement on lwn.net for the Yocto Project. >> > >> > This aims to create a standard build system for embedded systems. >> > Sounds like it might be an interesting way to build for the FreeRunner. >> > >> > Of course it also sound like 'yet-another-build-system' tool. >> > >> > Just wanted to high-lite this to the various people building various >> > distros and hear their feedback on what this might, or might not >> > offer for simplifying builds for the FreeRunner. >> > >> > Cheers, and let the flames ignite (-= >> >> Isn't that Yocto based on the same OpenEmbedded as current build >> system for several distros is? > >Yes, it is. > >Although it might contain some higher-level shells that could simplify dealing with >the actual build process. > That was my point. It's supposed to simplify the config process and create SDK, QEMU images and such. But on the other hand, do we need Yet-another-build-system? Does it offer something useful to set it apart from what's already out there? At the very least someone could add the FreeRunner to this list of supported target platforms for Yocto. Maybe the GP2X could be another target to work on. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Yocto for Openmoko?
Just saw the announcement on lwn.net for the Yocto Project.
This aims to create a standard build system for embedded systems. Sounds
like it might be an interesting way to build for the FreeRunner.
Of course it also sound like 'yet-another-build-system' tool.
Just wanted to high-lite this to the various people building various
distros and hear their feedback on what this might, or might not offer
for simplifying builds for the FreeRunner.
Cheers, and let the flames ignite (-=
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RE: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
The other problem I've noticed with my H:1, if I try to rotate the screen from the AUX menu, I get the WSOD )-= A rotated screen should give me enough chars, but I don't know if it'd do 24 lines. -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Timo Juhani Lindfors Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:15 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program "Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE)" writes: > Actually, it works like a dream! I plugged my USB-> serial adapter > from my FR to an IBM server serial port, ran picocom and was able to log in. > Only problem: The IBM expects the terminal to 80 char X 24 lines and > the terminal on the FR is only 39 char X 24 lines. My xterm on my FR offers much more characters :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Hackable:1] serial terminal program
>"Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE)" writes: >> recognizes and assigns to /dev/ttyUSB0. My problem is, minicom won't >> run > >I prefer picocom. > Tried that, but it's too small . . . Is there a microcom? (-= Actually, it works like a dream! I plugged my USB-> serial adapter from my FR to an IBM server serial port, ran picocom and was able to log in. Only problem: The IBM expects the terminal to 80 char X 24 lines and the terminal on the FR is only 39 char X 24 lines. Guess I'll see how bad this limit really is when I NEED to use this. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
> Hi, Hello, there (-= > > When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? As soon as you design it? I've heard that some people are looking at taking the openmoko core project and trying to apply it to better hardware. There were some offers to use production facilities and such, but I wouldn't hold my breath. But it would be nice. > > Regards > Sriranjan > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Hackable:1] serial terminal program
I've been wanting to try using my freerunner as a serial terminal to debug servers via serial. I've got a USB->serial adapter that H:1 recognizes and assigns to /dev/ttyUSB0. My problem is, minicom won't run because the shell screen is to small. Mickeyterm fails to find a bunch of python modules and things via dbus. I've even tried cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 but it says the line is busy. Anyone know of a serial terminal program that does work on H:1? Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [gta02-core] Openmoko Beagle Hybrid
Anyway, can you please keep focus on the original question (everything else does not bring us forward): Which option would you prefer? 1. PCB and very special components only (you can go shopping yourself). 2. PCB and complete component set (unsoldered) 3. PCB and components already soldered on a professional SMT line (we can use one) 4. same as 3 including a Wi2Wi GPS receiver module So, If I get the Populated PCB and LCD module for 169 Euros, does that mean I don't have to break a Freerunner? That's the most attractive option to me. I like my Neo (-= Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner Remote Desktop?
I use tightVNC on my PC and run x11vnc on my freerunner. Cheers, John Gay From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Nashvin Gangaram Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:22 AM To: Openmoko_Support; Openmoko_Community; SHR_Users Subject: Freerunner Remote Desktop? Hi everyone Does anyone know of any way to "Remote Desktop" to the Freerunner (to see the Freerunner display on PC, via USB). Preferably for SHR on Freerunner and Linux Mint or Ubuntu on PC... I've looked at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#GUI_on_desktop_through_SSH , but this seems to only allow specific applications to be displayed on PC. Thanks :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Removing dependent libs?
>-Original Message- >>Subject: Re: Removing dependent libs? > >> I remember debian used to have a simple tool to check for and remove >> orphaned libs, but I don't remember what it's called. I'm also >> slightly nervous it might remove some libs that aren't orphaned, just >> not properly listed. > >deborphan >or >apt-get autoremove > Tried this, but it only removed arora, not the extra libs that were installed with it. I tried both autoremove and --auto-remove. I'll try installing deborphan to see if that helps. >___ >Openmoko community mailing list >community@lists.openmoko.org >http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Removing dependent libs?
I tried installing arora on H:1 just to try a different web browser experience and it installed quite a few qt libs as dependencies. I wasn't impressed with it and removed it, but can't find an easy way to remove these un-used libs? I remember debian used to have a simple tool to check for and remove orphaned libs, but I don't remember what it's called. I'm also slightly nervous it might remove some libs that aren't orphaned, just not properly listed. Anyone know an easy way to check the dependencies for an app? Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)
As rasterman knows quite a bit more about hardware than most people I
know, I'm curious to know his opinion on the Flow G1.5 and up-coming G2
from Gizmo for you?
http://www.gizmoforyou.net/site/
Sounds at least as open hardware-wise and Openmoko was and seems to
actually be available for a price, though a rather high one.
I also find the game platform and general-purpose daughter card rather
interesting.
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RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:37:23 +0100 GNUtoo said: > > On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 11:37 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > 1. i'd like something not crawlingly slow 2. i'd like to use the 3g > > data rates telcos offer here, but where their 2g data rates are much > > more expensive 3. i'd like it to work when i travel (going to korea > > and japan for example only 3g phones will work). > > 4. i want a touchscreen that is large enough to be really usable (as > > such the 2.8" lcd is really more like 2.2 or 2.4" thanks to the > > bezel - for input). > > 5. again speed, capacity, screen, baseband, usability. > Did you hear about recent palm pre progress? > It could be the first of the phones-running-semi-free-software to be > usable. I find the Flow G1.5 from http://www.gizmoforyou.net quite an interesting dev-kit. Wish I had 520 Euro spare to play with. Also the Daughter VX 1.0 and the PXA Gaming Platform look almost as fun. Again, if I had some spare cash, I'd have both of these as well. I do have a GP2X, which was the forerunner of Pandora. It's not vaporware, despite appearances. Unfortunately, I don't have enough money to play with all these emerging embedded toys and test gravity regularly, and I'd prefer to test gravity. I get less abuse from the wife testing gravity than playing with code. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes > Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes > What distribution you run most of the time? Hackable:1 > If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change > over to, and why? I'm looking for a distro that can do BT headset and keyboard. ATM, I've only got the keyboard working, my headset pairs, and I think it talks, but I can't hear anything. Doesn't look like anyone has got a BT headset work on FR with any distro??? > Thank you :) > r > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > ___ > Shr-User mailing list > shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org > http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: QtMoko v19
I've just got 1, 2 part question: What is the status of BT? I changed from qtExtended to H:1 to get my BT keyboard working, but I can't get my BT headset working. If I can get both of these working on QtMoko, I'd be willing to change from uboot to get back to a QT-based phone. I've looked around, but can't seem to find a definitive answer. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
H:1, qtmoko or . . . .
ATM, I'm running H:1 rev5 and am really happy with it, since H:1 was the first to work with my BT keyboard for me. Now I've got a BT headset as well, but I can't get it to connect to H:1? Before switching to H:1, I was using qtextended quite happily, though I never got BT working with it. Now I'm checking the reviews of qtmoko, and it's looking quite good, but I can't find any definitive answers RE: BT headset and keyboard. Has anyone any experience setting up and using BT headset on the FR with any distro, but especially either H:1 or qtmoko? Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
Hi, Haven't been reading the list much in a long time... I have a Neo, which I never could use as a day-to-day phone, due to battery life. Now I've got an N900, just wanted to comment on this: From: Laszlo KREKACS > I also doubt if it runs smoothly on a weaker device (processor-wise). Today > on the train I saw a guy with nokia N900. He was reading some texts on it. > Oh dear, the scrolling was awesomely laggish. As an openmoko user I > know a bit about laggish scrolling;-) It is really sad such a highend > device still suffers from it. (not as bad as openmoko though) > > I find that very much depends on what applications you have running, and I'm wondering if there's a memory leak in the browser. There seems to be a browser daemon that uses a lot of processor even when it's not running--but after killing all the browser windows, it gets responsive again for a while. So some of the time it's really responsive, but now and then it gets really bogged down... killing stuff brings it back. I think most of the laggishness is completely related to applications, and something that can be fixed--if I keep the number of open apps down to around 6 or so, it's usually just fine. I do find myself rebooting it once or twice a week, which does clear up some of these issues. > An iphone had never such problem, and it has a weaker hardware... > That's because you can't run multiple apps on it! I wrote up an initial review on the n900 here: http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/3/nokia-n900-first-impressions ... already most of the things I identified as shortcomings are no longer issues, either because there's now applications for it, or there was a feature I didn't know about (such as a browser mode that allows for mouseover, select, and drag-and-drop). In short, after having it for a month, I'm really happy with it. Now to find a gpsd package so TangoGPS can figure out where I am... Cheers, John Locke http://www.freelock.com - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Congratulation, Wikireader! 7th in Amazon TOP 100
2009/10/30 Sean Moss-Pultz : > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:29 AM, john wrote: >> >> 2009/10/29 Sean Moss-Pultz : >> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Michal Brzozowski >> > wrote: >> >> 2009/10/29 Laszlo KREKACS >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACS >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/ref=pd_ts_pg_4?ie=UTF8&pg=4 >> >>> >> >>> Just to put this into perspective: >> >>> Amazon Kindle got 7111 customer review while WikiReader 13. >> >> >> >> You'd need to compare for how long each one is being sold. >> > >> > That and it does help to have a front page listing ;-) >> > >> > -Sean >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> >> So, bagged myself one of these bad boys today and I am equally excited >> as when I first got my hands on a 1973. Really looking forward to >> educating myself while I ride the Tube! Keep up the good work! > > Thanks John. Please let us know what you think when it arrives! > > -Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I received it already I meant to say. Very impressed! I am going to see if I can setup some offline mobile learning experiments at a couple of Uni's here in London. John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Congratulation, Wikireader! 7th in Amazon TOP 100
2009/10/29 Sean Moss-Pultz : > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: >> 2009/10/29 Laszlo KREKACS >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Laszlo KREKACS >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/ref=pd_ts_pg_4?ie=UTF8&pg=4 >>> >>> Just to put this into perspective: >>> Amazon Kindle got 7111 customer review while WikiReader 13. >> >> You'd need to compare for how long each one is being sold. > > That and it does help to have a front page listing ;-) > > -Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > So, bagged myself one of these bad boys today and I am equally excited as when I first got my hands on a 1973. Really looking forward to educating myself while I ride the Tube! Keep up the good work! John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?
Hi.. 2009/10/28 Shawn : > hi guys, > does anybody has try to port the scheme interpreter(guile,etc) to > openMOKO? > [snip] > I just built Guile 1.8.5 from shr-unstable. If you like I can put the packages up somewhere. John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:29:17 Marcel wrote: > They actually mean telepathy as in telepathy, since there's an IM client > named telepathy they want to use. Of course also for telephony. :) > > -- > Marcel Oops, then I withdraw my comment. You are still going to get some weirdo's accessing the site but then they can be quite entertaining sometimes. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:07:47 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > Renamed to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TelepathyIntegration > > Rui Err... ummm, I don't want to insult anyone but you may want to look up the word you are using. I realize that English is a second language for most of you but to make it easier for people to perform a proper look up, the word you want is "telephony". "Telepathy" is something quite different and will get you all sorts of crackpots accessing you site. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: linphone
On Monday 21 September 2009 17:11:18 Tschaka wrote: > Hi John, > > i have two positive suggestion for you. first is: i got linphone to play > and record sound!! > with the hints from the mail you quoted, the packages there (dunno if > neccessary) and a self-created alsa state file [1], it works. > > i moved the /etc/asound.conf file somewhere else (dunno if neccessary, try > it out), loaded up the state file and now can make calls. however there is > one problem: you will hear yourself with a 1 sec delay occasionally. try to > edit the state file and finetune it. > > > second is: you can add contacts through rightclicking on the contacts > thingy in linphone. now there is the literki keyboard (you can find it > through searching the mailing list), which lets you open up an emulated > mouse with pointer and right and left click. read rusolis' announcement for > further instructions. simply "rightclick" on the contacts area, click on > add and off you go. > > hope this helps. Please report back your experiences with the asound.conf > removal and your results. > > Greetings! The removal of the asound.conf file just caused the audio to not work. I have not delved very far into the inner workings of the Neo so I don't know if any errors are available to report. Since there is no "messages" file I can't list it here. I'm presuming that you meant me to use the state file that you linked to in your email. I put it on the neo and rebooted (don't know how to "load" the state machine from the command line). Your new state file had no discernible effect on the quality of the audio. It was still very broken up and delayed and exactly the same as the original state file. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linphone 3.1.0
On Monday 21 September 2009 16:35:18 MicVM wrote: > Has somebody of you guys managed to run linphone3 in shr in the meanwhile? > I tried every possible statefile and asound that i found on the mailing > list (also tried without asound.conf) but still no success. The standard > voip statefile is ok for the microphone, but no sound comes out of the > earpiece. Any ideas? I was able to get linphone to work as far as installed and running with no apparent errors. The audio is broken but is playing, I can hear the voice from the PBX coming through when I dial in for voicemail. It's broken but loud enough to hear. I have done no changes to any of the audio system so the defaults that come with a SHR-unstable download and linphone 3.1.0 should be how it's currently setup. Not much help I'm afraid. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: linphone
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: linphone Date: Monday 21 September 2009 From: John Dowd To: Johan Thelmén On Saturday 12 September 2009 05:18:35 you wrote: > I use this. > > http://87.227.108.179/neo/linphone-3.1.0/ > > But because of printed audio errors witch we can see if running from > commandline, I had to remove /etc/asound.conf But it should probably be > fixed in application instead. Used this to build it > http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building SHR > > I also remember there was some problem with the mic audio setting. But I > used it oneway with asterisk. Johan, It's installed now and working over the wifi and the audio even works after a fashion. My next problem is that it doesn't seem to have a way of recording the numbers that I would call. Since this is a demo I don't want the person presenting to have to type in the SIP address everytime. Is there a way of adding SIP phone numbers to the caller list? Right now it appears but I can't see how to put anyone into the list. Cheers! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 --- -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR-U: More Adventures with Wifi
I'm now trying to just run the Neo with no Wifi encryption (the AP doesn't
like something about the Neo's WPA handshake... next weeks problem) and with a
static IP address (the Neo's dhcp client s/w doesn't like something about the
DHCPOFFER message from the AP... next month's problem).
So I have the following in the interface file under "/etc/network":
# Wired or wireless interfaces
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
address 192.168.1.20
network 192.168.1.0
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
up route del default gw 192.168.0.200
And here is the contents of the "wpa_supplicant.conf" file:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# Open:
network={
ssid="Asterisk"
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=80
}
Now, when the Neo boots, it appears that the wpa_supplicant.conf file does get
accessed and the AP can be seen allowing it into the network. However, once
the Wifi part is done the default route through the usb0 interface is still
there. The last line "up route del default gw 192.168.0.200" does not have any
effect and, the usb cable is not even plugged in but when I use the Neo's
terminal to look at the route table, there's the default route which I believe
confuses the TCP/IP stack on the Neo and I can't shell into it (I have read
the Wifi page about Neo and have done the subsequent mods.).
Has anyone been able to get the Neo to setup properly for Wifi access at boot?
Cheers!!
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Re: SHR-U: Mokonnect...
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 11:24:20 Warren Baird wrote: > I must admit that even though I generally prefer gui tools for this kind of > thing - life got a lot easier once I bit the bullet and just created a > wpa_supplicant config file with all the networks I usually connect to in > it. Warren, Thanks for the advice. I'm a big time user of scripts and I hate GUI's. However, the use of Mokonnect is a last gasp effort to get the Neo to connect to my AP (Access Point). I would prefer to use the normal linux init scripts but I've been finding some bizarre behaviour with them. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-U: Mokonnect...
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 10:53:08 Valery Febvre wrote: > I think The file you are looking for is: > > /usr/share/mokonnect/mkconfig.py Yeah, I found it and blew it away and now the installation does look like a new one. The big problem now is that the scan function of Mokonnect no longer works. Bummer. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-U: Mokonnect...
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 10:53:08 Valery Febvre wrote: > I think The file you are looking for is: > > /usr/share/mokonnect/mkconfig.py Yeah, I found it and blew it away and now the installation does look like a new one. The big problem now is that the scan function of Mokonnect no longer works. Bummer. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR-U: Mokonnect...
I've run into a problem using Mokonnect. I configured it once and now I can't delete that configuration. I scanned for an AP, selected the one I wanted, entered in the connection information for it. I inadvertently did not add a password and now it will not let me change that setting. the password field is unselectable and I can never connect to that AP. Also, the scan goes on forever now. the easiest way to fix the AP information stuff would be to blow away the file that has the information in it so that the next time I run the app it looks like the first time but I can't find the file. Anyone know where it is? I already tried to remove Mokonnect and then re-installing it but the information persisted. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Icon issue with SHR-unstable...
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 03:45:36 Robin Paulson wrote: > yes, png will work fine > > which icon theme are you using? i've got the nEo theme installed in > shr-u, and it changes the root of the pixmaps dir to a different > location (dunno how, must be a conf file somwhere), so the location on > my machine becomes > > /usr/share/icons/nEo/86x86/apps I didn't change any themes once I had loaded on the SHR-U load. I had a look and there was a directory /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps and I copied the png file for linphone to it. No joy. Thanks for the help though. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Icon issue with SHR-unstable...
I can run the Linphone app but on the neo main display the linphone icon is shown as the default (or unknown) icon of a blank page. The linphone app has a linphone.png file under /usr/share/pixmaps (I just copied it there) but after I rebooted, it's still the blank page showing. Where should the linphone icon file go and is a "png" format the correct format to use for SHR? Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need a SIP based phone application
On Monday 14 September 2009 09:41:41 m k wrote: > there is a repo to get linphone from: > > /repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4t<http://www.google.com/bookmarks/u >rl?url=http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4 >t/&ei=b0OuSvC5BIuCoQP1qvylDA&sig2=DXiPCcdvLtcV6EH7ZZsp9g&ct=b> > > > using opkg install linphone linphonec linphone-rings and This Page > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone to setup via linphonec i managed to > log into http://iptel.org/ and even got it to play some nice music to me by > dialling the test number - but .. > > this only works by using the stereoout.state. As soon as i switch to > voip-statefile there is no way to get as much as a blip out of linphone :( > The same statefile worked under Debian using Twinkle so i have no clue > whats different. Thanks to everyone who replied and you were all very helpful. It looks like linphone is the app of choice simply because it installs as is with the SHR- unstable packages right now. I actually don't need the audio to work, I just need the SIP protocol stack to work. Linphone seems to do that although the GUI is a bit messed up on the Neo display. There is a lot of text crowding and improper sizing of the various dialog windows and icons but I can live with that for now. Apathy would be nice if it was actually available but it seems to be a bit of a ways out for a delivery to the SHR-unstable package list. Twinkle seems to only be available for a debian system and I'm not about to try and tangle with package importing right now. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need a SIP based phone application
On Monday 14 September 2009 09:22:10 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > http://www.openapathy.org/screenshots/ > > Designed for the freerunner, uses elementary. > > Laszlo Thanks Laszlo, looks promising but I will probably be done by the time this application is actually available to the SHR-unstable distro. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need a SIP based phone application
On Friday 11 September 2009 18:13:15 Giovanni wrote: > twinkle > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Twinkle Thanks but since I'm using SHR, I'm not certain that the package can be easily imported since Twinkle is for a debian installation. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Web site promoting open hardware?
Stefan Monnier writes: > While looking for new hardware, I noticed that all the open hardware > I know, I discovered it by accident while reading some mailing-list. > > Is there a web site somewhere that kind of centralizes this info to try > and make it easier for openness-conscious consumers to find > appropriate hardware? Of course, there are various notions of "open > hardware", so there might be parts of the site for hardware-hackers, for > example, but I'm more interested in a web-site for end-users. Also it > might include hardware that is not itself open source, but where the > company states a clear commitment to Free Software principles. > > I.e. a site that links to things like Openmoko, Qi, AlwaysInnovating, > maybe Lemote, OpenPandora, ... > > Any hint? > > > Stefan http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Freest_hardware_comparisons has been developing for a bit. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need a SIP based phone application
I'm still struggling with the Wifi side of the Openmoko Neo but I'm sure all of the problems are resolvable. However I well ultimately need a SIP phone application in the end. I'm running the SHR-unstable load and I'm wondering if anyone knows of such an application? I was using the linphone application when I was using the OM-2008 distro but that distro has been discontinued and the linphone app is no longer available. The URL used to download linphone no longer exists. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wireless Signal Power Levels...
I've been working with the wifi aspect of the Openmoko trying to setup for a SIP based phone system. One problem that I've been having that someone pointed out is that the signal levels may be one problem that I'm running into. When I have a wireless connection and I do a "iwconfig" on the Neo side, the signal level is being shown at -147dBm. Apparently that is very low and the expected working level should be around -90dBm. I'm running the AP (Access Point) using hostapd on PC with a USB wireless dongle so I do have access to the AP and settings. My question is: is the signal level really a problem and is there a simple configuration setting that I can use to try and fix it? Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...
On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:39:54 Paul Fertser wrote: > You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources > wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus > turning everything off. Thanks Paul. I installed the fsoraw utility (funny, I did a "opkg search fsoraw" and found nothing, then I did a "opkg list | grep -i fsoraw" and saw it in the list. Then I typed "opkg install fsoraw" and voila, it installed). I managed to get the fsoraw utility to start the wpa_supplicant applications and I could see the wpa handshake being done on the AP (Access Point) side. Then the udhcpc (busybox dhcp client) started up and did it's usual round of ignoring the response to its DHCPDISCOVER messages (this is why I want to get dhclient). Eventually it actually did send a DHCPACK and it had an IP address. I spent too long congratulating myself and gloating because just as I issued the ssh r...@wifi-ip-address-of-my-neo the AP log said that the wifi had been disassociated and the Neo was showing that the wifi timed out due to inactivity. This is a few steps forward. Thanks for the help. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 12:24:41 George Brooke wrote: > No problem, glad it got sorted out. > > solar.george I can now manually configure the wireless interface but I need to come up automatically during boot and start the dhcp client. I can see that the kernel does boot and somewhere during init the interface is brought up. However, somewhere later during the init the wireless interface is being shutdown. If I go into the Setup application I can see that the wireless option is turned off. If I turn it back on it then the interface does come up. However, it is not persistent across boots. How do I turn off the current system setting of turning off the wireless interface? I have a "wlan" script in the "/etc/init.d" directory and once I manually bring up the wireless interface I can run it and it does configure the interface properly. Also, I'm running into the same problem with the busybox udhcpc application that I've seen before. It does not see the DCHPOFFER from the AP. It ignores it and continues to issue the DCHPDISCOVER. There was a application dhclient that ran on the OM2009 distro. Is there anything available here on the unstable SHR? One person mentioned that the problem was that the Signal level (which is -147dBm) is way too low and should be at least -90dBm. Where would I change this? I have some control over the AP if that is where the change needs to be. And on more piece of information that I need I can bring up the shell on the Neo but the keyboard that pops up does not have an obvious way to insert (or type) a carriage return. There has to be a way? Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:00:52 George Brooke wrote: > I mean on the laptop side > 1. Plug neo into laptop > 2. run dmesg on laptop > [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices > [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-2, CDC > Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f > [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether > [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5 > 3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5 Bingo, it works and you are correct, it's now on eth1. Good thing I put that "Respectfully" at the start of my reply or I might have to buy your beer for the rest of my life. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...
On Friday 04 September 2009 16:23:51 George Brooke wrote: > usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken. > > solar.george Respectfully, who cares what the interface is called on the Neo side, this does not reflect back to the device (in this case a laptop) at the other end of the usb cable. That device (the laptop) does not see any ethernet i/f because the Neo is not starting one. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...
I need to setup the Openmoko phone to use a wireless (WPA2 encryption) connection so that I can then use a SIP phone application to connect to a AP that runs Asterisk. I have the AP system in place and in fact I've been able to configure the Neo using the older om2008 load to set this up and I could demonstrate it working. That was much earlier this year. The system has been sent back to me to make it more robust and consistent. The previous system was very hard to get working. The biggest problem was that the dhcp client (Busybox udhcpc) would most often just ignore the response to it's DHCPDISCOVER message sent by the AP. It would accept it eventually but with a boardroom full of customers, telling them that it would connect eventually doesn't seem to mean much to them. I just recently replaced the udhcpc application with the dhclient application and this worked much better. I would like to do this demo using the more recent SHR loads since the om2008 series seems to be abandoned. I have a few issues and I'm wondering if someone knows how to get around them. I've put the lastest stable load of SHR on. I have been able to get the wireless to work by modifying the various wpa_supplicant and init.d files by hand but, the phone comes up without the wireless chip turned on so I have to go into the settings application and actually turn it on. It's not persistent. I then have to run my init script and then it connects (I can see the wpa handshaking being done on my AP). However the DHCP client "dhclient" doesn't appear to be available under SHR and I have to fall back to busybox's udhcpc. It just doesn't seem to work. According to the SHR project page, I could use Mokonnect to configure all of this but it's not available to the stable version and I tried to load the unstable package but it gives me startup errors and then gacks. I've tried to put a unstable SHR load on the Neo but then I run into all sorts of incompatibility issues and I get things like the usb0 interface is unavailable and I therefore can't then get at the Neo to fix things. Is there a magic combination here that I can put together so that I can use the wireless interface with the SHR load? I'll deal with the SIP phone application after I get this up and running. Cheers!! -- "To Err is human, to forgive is NOT company policy." John Dowd S/W Contractor email: jdowd at gmail dot com Cell: (613)316-7884 Home: (613)234-7884 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
Actually one of the things I would like to do with a NanoNote is turn it into a dedicated Twitter client! I think opinion will always be divided on form factor. I have owned many devices from the Psion Series II through to the iPhone but I still like Zaurus clamshell designs. I also like the idea of a tiny Linux computer in my pocket or even on a key chain. I don't see the progression as trying to compete with the iPhone but to look at new areas such as hackable wearable computing. Thus I am interested in seeing things get smaller and cheaper and more hackable and not getting more shiny! John. 2009/7/24 Christoph Pulster : [snip] > > Psion Plc. invent the clamshell and set the top-level of usable keyboard > verses form-factor with Series 3 twenty years ago. > We are in the SMS/twitter age now. Some vitual keyboard with multi-touch > usability is sufficient. People who want to write full sentences buy a > pencil with white paper. > > > In general, what advantage does the NanoNote have to an Iphone with > Linux installed ? > > > Christoph > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
Congrats! Kudos for going clamshell! John. 2009/7/20 steven mosher : > A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture. > Drop by and say hello. > http://www.qi-hardware.com/ > > Steve > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall : > John, > >> I made some contact with Openmoko regarding joining their Openlab >> programme a while back now and need to follow that up. We have created >> an MSc in Network and Mobile Computing which has a module designed to >> specifically use "Openmoko". The MSc starts this September so I am >> very interested to share ideas and help spread the love. > > Sounds goodand the university's program to use "Openmoko" in the MSc > sounds great. > > Are you then the contact for Openlab? Can you speak for them? > [snip] No, I was looking to join and contribute to the materials etc. It is mainly a bunch of Taiwanese universities. I am based in the UK. I like the idea of sharing learning resources. I think Openmoko could have a good future within education so I think your work with USP is a great step forward. John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
Re: OpenLab 2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall : > Brenda, > >> Brenda Wang wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> It's really great to hear this. >>> In Taiwan, Tsing Hua university also has a OPENlab. >>> > > I would like to work with the community to engage various universities, > but as I have mentioned before, with limited resources and a press to > get the Openmoko program stable and moving forward again, I think we > need to do this systematically and directly. > > In the meantime, do you have a contact name for the OPENlab at Tsing Hua > University? > > Warmest regards, > > maddog > > I made some contact with Openmoko regarding joining their Openlab programme a while back now and need to follow that up. We have created an MSc in Network and Mobile Computing which has a module designed to specifically use "Openmoko". The MSc starts this September so I am very interested to share ideas and help spread the love. Regards, John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
2009/4/24 Roland Whitehead : > What you haven't experienced then is "Toothing". Apparently, it's rife > on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends > up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing > to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be > lots of new users! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing > Which has a link to Dogging! BlueDogging anyone? :) I hacked my Bluetooth logger to post devices found to Twitter. A more interesting read than most people's Twitter feeds! John. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Lightly used FreeRunner for sale
Hi all, I have an extra FreeRunner, purchased from the first batch of Neos delivered to the US. It's very lightly used, with a Zagg Invisible Shield protector on the screen, and comes with an extra (third-party) battery, original packaging, and all of the goodies that it shipped with. I'm parting with the FreeRunner because I'm a poor college student who needs the money for other endeavors. I'm asking for $250 or best offer, which I feel is a reasonable price for the unit, considering it's in rather good condition and still has all the accessories. My specific model has the 900MHz GSM chipset, and is known to work on the local T-Mobile network without any problems. Willing to either meet locally (Rochester, NY) and exchange for cash, or ship anywhere via PayPal payment (buyer pays shipping!). Although I'm sure you're all aware of what it looks like, a picture of mine is available at: http://files.leetcode.net/uploads/2008/09/cimg2923-modified.jpg You can contact me off-list at this email address if you're interested. Cheers all -- John Reese LeetCode.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
Leonti Bielski writes: > Hello! > > I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. > What choices do I have? > > Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly > (board is not resized). > I've been happy with Xboard. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] e17 screen lock
"Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" writes: > John Sullivan ha scritto: >> So, I build e17 from svn and use it with illume on Debian. >> >> By default, the e screen locking function goes to a password lock, which >> obviously isn't good for the FR. I know that on SHR using illume this >> instead goes to a simpler lock mechanism that can be unlocked just by >> pushing a button or whatever. >> >> Can anyone suggest how I can get behavior like this instead of the >> password lock? > > Go in enlightenment configuration -> Input -> Key bindings -> > Keycode-177 define it as Simple Desktop Lock. Brilliant, thanks. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] e17 screen lock
So, I build e17 from svn and use it with illume on Debian. By default, the e screen locking function goes to a password lock, which obviously isn't good for the FR. I know that on SHR using illume this instead goes to a simpler lock mechanism that can be unlocked just by pushing a button or whatever. Can anyone suggest how I can get behavior like this instead of the password lock? Thanks, -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly browse keyboard
Pander writes: > Hi all, > > Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could > not resist making one myself. the result is here: > http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html > Nice, is there any way to remove the box that usually shows the words that are being typed at the top? Since no words are being typed, that'd be a nice way to save space, but I guess if it were easy to remove it you would have done so already. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suggestions for development environment/tools for new app
I recently got my gta2 running om 2008.12, and I'm enjoying using this system. I'm about to start another application, using the gps and touchscreen. I have a background in python/gtk, but do C/C++ for a day job. What development framework/tools/libraries would folks recommend? I did a gtk/python app, and while I got it working quickly, it was a little clunky - As is usually the result of my python/gtk user interfaces! I've seen the Qtopia development stuff, and also seen C/C++ using gtk or qt... Suggestions for a library/tool/env for a new app? I'd love to be able to run it on X11 or whatever for development, then run it on the moko when I have it done; recompile OK. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Illume won't show any icons
Marcel writes: > Hello, > > I have a fresh e17/illume running under debian, but Illume doesn't display > any > program entries although there are plenty in /usr/share/applications. I know > there are issues with categories since Illume doesn't display all of them, > but a known working one was/is "Applications" (with an 's'). This workaround > doesn't work for me, I have Applications as Category but the entry still > doesn't appear. > How may I fix this? Do you have a menu file installed? http://wjsullivan.net/git/?p=freerunner.git;a=blob_plain;f=illume-applications.menu;hb=HEAD is what I use, extracted from a tar that raster put out at some point. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
I should be there by about 8pm. I will look for an array of geeks :) 2009/2/11 Gothnet : > > Bump. > > I'll be there between 6 and 6.30. > > And if the batteries on my eee hold out I'll be happy to shove a recent > android build onto any unattended FRs :) > > > > > gnublade wrote: >> >> Just pinging the list to say that we're on for the 11th (this >> Wednesday) at the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street from 7.30. >> >> http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/Old_Bank_of_England/Fleet_Street >> >> Invite any OM owners, potential owners and interested parties, >> hopefully we can get a good mix of distributions and share our tips, >> tricks and war stories. If you own an OpenMoko it goes without saying >> bring it with, even if it's a brick you never know somebody might be >> able to breath some life into it. >> >> Hope to see you there. >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2307690.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
joa...@verona.se a écrit : > usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 79 > usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 > usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 > usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 80 > usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 > usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 > usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 81 > usb 4-1: device not accepting address 81, error -71 > usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 82 > usb 4-1: device not accepting address 82, error -71 > hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 > > I had this issue before, but only sporadically. Now I get it nearly > always. What can I do? Will connecting a network adaptor to the > freerunner in host mode be more reliable? You may want to try another USB wire. I recently had "device descriptor read/64, error -71" failures with the wire shipped with my USB external hard disk happen with both the hard disk and the FreeRunner. The USB wire shipped with the FreeRunner works with both the hard disk and the FreeRunner; so I suppose this kind of error is the fault of the wire. Best, John Mandereau ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
Yeh, I am up for that. I will bring my 1973 for a bit of nostalgia! John. 2009/2/1 Gothnet : > > Hello all, > > So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still having a pub > meet on the 11th? > > I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of England > on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is lazily close to > work :) > > So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about the state > of the world/phone? > > I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name kinda > stuck. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2255676.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Default Illume Keybd Layout
Brock writes: > I extracted it and dropped it into place to work in debian. I've been > using it for several days and like this layout quite a bit... I threw in > a fuzz factor of 60 for sloppy slapping the keyboard, works great. > Same here, on Debian. Haven't tried the fuzz factor yet but we'll see. But something I've been meaning to look into for a while -- the font used for the letters on the keys and for the word suggestions above the keyboard is very very small. Is there an interface to set that somewhere or do I need to edit the theme file? It's a bigger font on SHR and FSO. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?
> nor safe until the disease is quarantined and dies out.
>
> Source:
> http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/israel/how_can_israel_claim_to_be_a_%27democracy%27_when_it_has_no_constitution_nor_borders?/`
>
>
>
> The problem with intellectually insecure whites
>
> Kevin MacDonald
>
> January 19, 2009
>
> America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of
> affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public
> opinion. But it certainly creates some management issues — at least in the
> long run. After all, it's difficult to come up with an historical example of
> a nation with a solid ethnic majority (90% white in 1950) that has
> voluntarily decided to cede political and cultural power. Such
> transformations are typically accomplished by military invasions, great
> battles, and untold suffering.
>
> And it's not as if everyone is doing it. Only Western nations view their own
> demographic and cultural eclipse as a moral imperative. Indeed, as I have
> noted previously, it is striking that racial nationalism has triumphed in
> Israel at the same time that the Jewish intellectual and political movements
> and the organized Jewish community have been the most active and effective
> force for a non-white America. Indeed, a poll in 2008 found that Avigdor
> Lieberman was the second most popular politician in Israel. Lieberman has
> advocated expulsion of Arabs from Israel and has declared himself a follower
> of Vladimir Jabotinsky, the leading pioneer of racial Zionism. The most
> popular politician in the poll was Benjamin Netanyahu — another admirer of
> Jabotinsky. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni are
> also Jabotinskyists.
>
> The racial Zionists are now carrying out yet another orgy of mass murder
> after a starvation-inducing blockade and the usual triggering assault
> designed to provoke Palestinian retaliation — which then becomes the cover
> for claims that Israel is merely defending itself against terrorism. This
> monstrosity was approved by overwhelming majorities of both Houses of
> Congress. The craven Bush administration did its part by abstaining from a UN
> resolution designed by the US Secretary of State as a result of a personal
> appeal by the Israeli Prime Minister. This is yet another accomplishment of
> the Israel Lobby, but one they would rather not have discussed in public.
> People might get the impression that the Lobby really does dictate US foreign
> policy in the Mideast. Obviously, such thoughts are only entertained by
> anti-Semites.
>
> But I digress.
>
> In managing the eclipse of white America, one strategy of the mainstream
> media is to simply ignore the issue. Christopher Donovan ("For the media,
> the less whites think about their coming minority status, the better") has
> noted that the media, and in particular, the New York Times, are quite
> uninterested in doing stories that discuss what white people think about this
> state of affairs.
>
> It's not surprising that the New York Times — the Jewish-owned flagship of
> anti-white, pro-multicultural media — ignores the issue. The issue is also
> missing from so-called conservative media even though one would think that
> conservatives would find the eclipse of white America to be an important
> issue. Certainly, their audiences would find it interesting.
>
> Now we have an article "The End of White America" written by Hua Hsu, an
> Assistant Professor of English at Vassar College. The article is a rather
> depressing display of what passes for intellectual discourse on the most
> important question confronting white people in America.
>
> Hsu begins by quoting a passage in F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby in
> which a character, Tom Buchanan, states: "Have you read The Rise of the
> Colored Empires by this man Goddard?" … Well, it's a fine book, and everybody
> ought to read it. The idea is if we don't look out the white race will
> be—will be utterly submerged. It's all scientific stuff; it's been proved."
>
> Buchanan's comment is a thinly veiled reference to Lothrop Stoddard's The
> Rising Tide of Color which Hsu describes as "rationalized hatred" presented
> in a scholarly, gentlemanly, and scientific tone. (This wording that will
> certainly help him when he comes up for tenure.) As Hsu notes, Stoddard had a
> doctorate from Harvard and was a member of many academic associations. His
> book was published by a major publisher. It was therefore "precisely the kind
> of book that a 1920s man of Buchanan's profile — wealthy, Ivy
> Le
[OM2008-12] Default route under wifi always has the USB default route as well...
I followed the instructions on the wiki for setting up the "interfaces" file under "/etc/network". On the wiki page they have the following for the wireless interface: # Wired or wireless interfaces auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf up route del default gw 192.168.0.200 up route del default gw 192.168.0.200 On the wiki page they mentioned to put the route delete line twice since the first one did not seem to ever work. Well, putting it twice never works either. Has anyone been able to successfully remove the USB interface as the default route? I can do it once I've ssh'd to the device with a simple command but I'm trying to automate this device as much as possible since it's going to be used in demonstrations by people who have no clue. Cheers!! -- John Dowd email: jdowdster at gmail dot com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008-12] syslog output...
Actually I spoke too soon. When I watch my FR boot, I can see the wpa_supplicant is printing out some errors and a fair amount of text as to what the error is. When I do a "dmesg" those messages are not there, when I do a logread to a file and examine the file, it's not their either. Also, logread is the output from the driver and kernel printk primitive, not what I would see in a proper syslog which is where wpa_supplicant and various startup daemons would print. Cheers!! On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM, john dowd wrote: > yes it does, thanks! > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Marcel wrote: >> Am Thursday 22 January 2009 20:48:43 schrieb john dowd: >>> I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in >>> /var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really >>> need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is >>> actually running so where is its output? >>> >>> Cheers!! >> >> Doesn't logread show the syslog? IIRC it does Correct me if I'm wrong. :) >> >> -- >> Marcel >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- >John Dowd > >133 Waverley St. >Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 >Home: (613)234-7884 >Cell: (613)316-7884 >email: jdowdster at gmail dot com > -- John Dowd 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 email: jdowdster at gmail dot com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008-12] syslog output...
yes it does, thanks! On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Marcel wrote: > Am Thursday 22 January 2009 20:48:43 schrieb john dowd: >> I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in >> /var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really >> need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is >> actually running so where is its output? >> >> Cheers!! > > Doesn't logread show the syslog? IIRC it does Correct me if I'm wrong. :) > > -- > Marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 email: jdowdster at gmail dot com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008-12] syslog output...
I see the syslog.conf file says to put the messages in /var/log/messages but there is no file and no logged output. I really need to see the log from when the system was booting. syslogd-ng is actually running so where is its output? Cheers!! -- John Dowd 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 email: jdowdster at gmail dot com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008-12] Wireless interface won't accept the DHCP offer...
I've configured the FR to use dhcp to get an IP address through the wireless interface after it connects to the AP using WPA2. This has been working for quite some time. I did have the occasional event where the FR would get booted but it would just start cycling along doing the dhcp discover and after a few minutes of this I would reboot the FR and the next time up it would come and finish the connection and I would have a good wireless connection to the FR. I control both ends (I've created the AP using a laptop, USB wireless dongle and the s/w application hostapd). The FR boots and negotiates the wifi access but when it comes to the dhcp negotiation its failing. I can see the AP listing the DHCP DISCOVER message and sending to the FR (I know its the FR since the MAC address is correct) the DHCP OFFER. The FR only prints the DHCP Discover message and never seems to see the DHCP OFFER. I haven't done any changes to the s/w on the FR and this problem usually does go away after a few minutes but its now been a few hours and doesn't seem to be fixing itself. I'm wondering what kind of scenarios can occur where the dhcp client just can't use the dhcp server's offer? Cheers!! -- John Dowd 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 email: jdowdster at gmail dot com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FrogPad & Freerunner
Thomas Markus writes: > On 1/17/09 12:39 AM, Braydon Fuller wrote: >> Has anybody had any experience with this keyboard? >> >> http://www.frogpad.com/ >> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/zoom/ >> > > My girlfriend is using one at work all the time and likes it a lot. It > takes some time to get used to though. It takes about 2 to 3 weeks to > get up to speed again, but learning dvorak is probably harder :) > > I'm also considering one in combination with a FR on the road for text > entry. Haven't tested it though, but it's just a regular USB-keyboard so > it should work just fine. I'm using the bluetooth frogpad with my FR. Works great. It's a little bulkier than I expected though, and it's not very useful unless you're sitting down. -- -John Sullivan -http://www.wjsullivan.net -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet
Hi Jan, I added a couple of pubs to the wiki. I really don't mind which location. If it became a regular meet it would be fun to try them all out! By coincidence I appear to have recommended two Samuel Smith's pubs which might not suit everyone. I will drink anything me :) John. 2009/1/16 Jan Henkins : [snip] > Hello John, > > On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:23, john wrote: > Please suggest a location. I find the BITE site an "Indispensable" (c)(tm) > tool in cases like this: > > http://www.beerintheevening.com/ > [snip] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet
I am up for a few beers and some moko action if I am free on that date (I will know soon). Re: the venue I don't mind the location but something more central might work better depending who wants to go of course! However, you do have first dibbs on location :) John. 2009/1/16 Jan Henkins : [snip] > > Depending on the number of people, if we are a small group (8 and less), > The Dove Inn in Hammersmith is a really nice place. Food is OK, placement > is fabulous (right on the Thames, see link below) and it's easy to get to. > However, it is small and popular, we might have to book. What I really > like about it, is that it has an enclosed area out the back looking on to > the Thames if somedbody quickly need to nip out for a "fix" (be it getting > a GPS or nicotine fix...). > > I will put this in the WIKI as a recommended venue. > > The Dove details: > > http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith > [snip] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[boot loader] Error messages from boot loader, are they written to FLASH?
I've worked in other environments with embedded devices and usually,
the boot loader will write any error or information output to FLASH
which can be pulled out and looked at after the fact. I've noticed
that the u-boot for Neo writes some message to the console and then
overwrites it as it recycles back to the boot loader menu. Is there a
way to see this message? While trying to use the AUX and Power button
to navigate and then fumbling for a magnifying glass to read the
screen, I am never able to really read the message that is coming up.
I'm trying to setup my Neo to boot from the uSD.
Cheers!!
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Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?
The communication works fine with neocon. Thanks.
My problem now is that I follow the wiki for setting up the SD to be a
backup system. I get into the boot loader and add the menu line:
setenv menu_2 Boot from microSD part2 (ext2+ext2): setenv bootargs
\${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
\${mtdparts}\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 \${sd_image_name}\;
bootm 0x3200
I also check it with the "printenv" command and then use the "saveenv"
to write it to NAND. What happens is that the command returns :
GTA02v6 # saveenv
Saving Environment to NAND...
Erasing Nand...GTA02v6 #
and when I restart to the boot loader menu, my menu entry is not there.
Cheers!!
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Al Johnson
wrote:
> I just use minicom, connect to /dev/ttyACM0 and enable line wrap. If you could
> be more specific about what's wrong then perhaps I could help.
>
> On Wednesday 14 January 2009, john dowd wrote:
>> Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message
>> [closed] printed out for every key and no joy talking to the device.
>>
>> Is there a console program out there that works right now and that
>> people are using to communicate with the Neo Freerunner?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
>> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:38:30 -0800 (PST)
>> >
>> > Gothnet wrote:
>> >> john dowd wrote:
>> >> > I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings
>> >> > that they would like to share.
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> Search the wiki for a program called neocon, that seemed to work for me.
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > Haven't tried using serial terminal software with OpenMoko,
>> > but in general, have found cutecom to have a nice GUI
>> > interface.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Gora
>> >
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Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?
OK, it was a integration problem between the keyboard and my chair. I ran it as root and voila it works. Thanks everyone who responded. Cheers!! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM, john dowd wrote: > Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message > [closed] printed out for every key and no joy talking to the device. > > Is there a console program out there that works right now and that > people are using to communicate with the Neo Freerunner? > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:38:30 -0800 (PST) >> Gothnet wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> john dowd wrote: >>> > >>> > I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings >>> > that they would like to share. >> [...] >>> Search the wiki for a program called neocon, that seemed to work for me. >> [...] >> >> Haven't tried using serial terminal software with OpenMoko, >> but in general, have found cutecom to have a nice GUI >> interface. >> >> Regards, >> Gora >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > John Dowd > jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org > 133 Waverley St. > Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 > Home: (613)234-7884 > Cell: (613)316-7884 > -- John Dowd jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?
Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message [closed] printed out for every key and no joy talking to the device. Is there a console program out there that works right now and that people are using to communicate with the Neo Freerunner? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:38:30 -0800 (PST) > Gothnet wrote: > >> >> >> >> john dowd wrote: >> > >> > I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings >> > that they would like to share. > [...] >> Search the wiki for a program called neocon, that seemed to work for me. > [...] > > Haven't tried using serial terminal software with OpenMoko, > but in general, have found cutecom to have a nice GUI > interface. > > Regards, > Gora > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?
I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings that they would like to share. Cheers!! -- John Dowd jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[0m2008-9] Trying to partition the uSD card but unable to umount the partition that has been created
Would anyone know which application I would have to kill to be able to unmount the partition that was created on the uSD card? I want to backup my current kernel & rootfs to the uSD card since it is now stable. Apparently the Qtopia_db.sqlite file was created for the Qtopia apps but I can't easily see who is using the partition. Cheers!! -- John Dowd jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
Well I tried the NeoTool but it has its limitations. I was going to copy my current configuration to the uSD card as the backup. I tried the wiki page "Booting From SD" and was going to prepare the uSD card by partitioning it. I then saw that there is an entry: /dev/mmcblk0p1 49792048497872 0% /media/card when I do a "df". When I go to the mount point I found this file: qtopia_db.sqlite What the heck is this file doing there? >From what I understand, I must partition the uSD and then copy kernel & rootfs to the various partitions. Why would an app. have grabbed the uSD card? Cheers!! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM, john dowd wrote: > Thanks guys!! > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dale Maggee wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> john dowd wrote: >>> I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but >>> not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: >>> >>> Opening USB Device 0x:0x... >>> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" >>> Claiming USB DFU Interface... >>> Setting Alternate Setting ... >>> Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 >>> dfuERROR, clearing status >>> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 >>> dfuIDLE, continuing >>> Transfer Size = 0x1000 >>> dfu_upload error -84 >>> >>> This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. >>> Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> -- >> >> >> NeoTool will backup your root partition to a flashable jffs2 without >> using dfu-util" >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool >> >> Regards, >> - -Dale >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFJbRonFbVnQRV3OEYRApQwAKCm9M/V1hJ/5vtWthVIotL6rU8CKwCfTypI >> 0Sr1/X6Y+q6DMatM/IWygQ0= >> =D7Ag >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > John Dowd > jd...@slashdevslashnull.org > 133 Waverley St. > Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 > Home: (613)234-7884 > Cell: (613)316-7884 > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
Thanks guys!! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dale Maggee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > john dowd wrote: >> I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but >> not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: >> >> Opening USB Device 0x:0x... >> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" >> Claiming USB DFU Interface... >> Setting Alternate Setting ... >> Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 >> dfuERROR, clearing status >> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 >> dfuIDLE, continuing >> Transfer Size = 0x1000 >> dfu_upload error -84 >> >> This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. >> Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? >> >> Cheers!! >> -- > > > NeoTool will backup your root partition to a flashable jffs2 without > using dfu-util" > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool > > Regards, > - -Dale > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJbRonFbVnQRV3OEYRApQwAKCm9M/V1hJ/5vtWthVIotL6rU8CKwCfTypI > 0Sr1/X6Y+q6DMatM/IWygQ0= > =D7Ag > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
To be clear, you are saying that this is a u-boot issue? I usually go and sacrifice a few chickens and make sure that it's a new moon before I update a bootloader. Especially when I don't have a debug board or external way of updating flash. Cheers!! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote: > john dowd wrote: >> I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but >> not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: >> >> Opening USB Device 0x:0x... >> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" >> Claiming USB DFU Interface... >> Setting Alternate Setting ... >> Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 >> dfuERROR, clearing status >> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 >> dfuIDLE, continuing >> Transfer Size = 0x1000 >> dfu_upload error -84 >> >> This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. >> Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? > > You should update uboot to get it completed. Uboot-git has a fix for this. > BTW you can follow the Backup wiki, and generate a jffs2 via ssh without > dfu-utils ;) > > -- > Treviño's World - Life and Linux > http://www.3v1n0.net/ > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? Cheers!! -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix? On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM, jamal wrote: > Salut, > > Ive been sitting on an openmoko phone i bought when the website first > came up in July/Aug 2008. It is in good shape given i hardly used it. > > Make me an offer in Ottawa - I will meet you at some coffee shop and > exchange it for cash. > > cheers, > jamal > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2
Sorry, my finger slipped and I posted before I was finished typing... I have also posted the question on the PBX site (Asterisk). Since SIP is a standard and Linphone isn't, I didn't really want so much of a "linphone" slanted answer but a SIP application answer. Cheers!! On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:45 PM, john dowd wrote: > True but you never know where knowledge is waiting to be revealed! > > I have also posted the question on the PBX > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Al Johnson > wrote: >> On Tuesday 30 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >>> I'm wondering if someone could verify the following SIP interaction >>> between linphone and the s/w PBX that I'm running. >> >> This would be better directed to the linphone list as it's unlikely to be >> openmoko-specific. It might help to say which PBX it is too. >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > John Dowd > jd...@slashdevslashnull.org > 133 Waverley St. > Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 > Home: (613)234-7884 > Cell: (613)316-7884 > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2
True but you never know where knowledge is waiting to be revealed! I have also posted the question on the PBX On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 30 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> I'm wondering if someone could verify the following SIP interaction >> between linphone and the s/w PBX that I'm running. > > This would be better directed to the linphone list as it's unlikely to be > openmoko-specific. It might help to say which PBX it is too. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2
I'm wondering if someone could verify the following SIP interaction between linphone and the s/w PBX that I'm running. The Neo registers (using linphone) with the PBX and I can see the registration happening but then there is a "REQUEST NOTIFY" coming from the PBX to linphone. Linphone responds with a "481: Subscription does not exist". I've attached this interaction in the tcpdump formatted file and I'm hoping someone would look at it. What I think is happening is that the PBX is actually informing linphone that there are some voicemail messages waiting but linphone does not support this feature and does not know what to do with this part of the protocol. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured >> to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do >> NOT have a SIMM card in my phone. >> >> I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other >> side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so >> badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU >> utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know). >> >> What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to >> do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or >> am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability. >> >> Cheers!! > > I have made SIP calls using the linphone CLI over wifi with WPA-TKIP and the > audio quality was fine. I don't recall which codec it was using, but the > Freerunner is certainly capable of making high quality SIP calls over > encrypted wifi. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 sipReg.tcp Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Make the sound setting permanent
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 09:32:57AM +0100, julien cubizolles wrote: > Hi, I've switched to Om2008.12 yesterday and really enjoyed it. I'm > suggesting an improvement to the volume bar during calls. Could the last > setting be recalled on the next call. So far, I've always needed to set > it to max and it's not very convenient when you don't use a headset. > > Also, what alsa setting does it change ? Refer to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1489 and http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=eb855af76018bedf6a89b9ac736d2ffa3961932b It doesn't change alsa, but uses AT+CLVL instead. > Btw couldn't this volume bar be adjusted by the AUX button (you don't > really need to lock/unlock during a call). It would be more convenient > in my opinion : you don't need to put down the handset to ajust it. > > Thanks for the good work, > > Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
I'm sure someone has mentioned this application before but just in case, have you ever heard of using the accelerometer to check the batter status? The application that I heard about was: when the application is running, you shake the FR just like you shake an opaque water bottle to determine if its full or not, the application will cause the phone to "gurgle" with the appropriate pitch in sound that you would get if the FR's battery was full, half emtpy or empty. This would be way kewl!! Cheers!! 2008/12/20 François TOURDE : > Le 14230ième jour après Epoch, > Lothar Behrens écrivait: > >> Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: >> >>> Lothar Behrens writes: >>>> Is there a way to do this ? >>> >>> while true; do >>> if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then >>> alert >>> fi >>> sleep 120 >>> done >>> >> >> this is a starting point :-) > > I've a small script that works as a daemon, checking interval depends > on the charge (described on a file), play sounds (except when > charging) depending on the current charge. > > There is no doc, no install proc, it's not packaged, but it can be > done easily... > > The config file (default values in the script) contains: > > # Les différents niveaux > THRESHOLDS="100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency" > > Each group of check parms is max:min:delay:sound > > If level is between (_max_,_min_), the "aplay" _sound_.wav and wait _delay_ > for next check. > > Hope it helps. > > > > -- > PR: Le serveur (de news) de PacWan est en panne depuis le mois de juillet ! > AT: A mon avis ils vont finir par s'en apercevoir, mais il risque de manquer >des articles. >-+- in: Guide du Cabaliste Usenet - La Cabale se propage (mal) -+- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
I found the problem. The actual directory being searched by default is the /usr/share/pixmap. Linphone is installing a directory containing its various "png" files there but not putting the extended path into the desktop.linphone file. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM, john dowd wrote: > Already checked but no joy. > > Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the "About" menu item > that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the > community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work > through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help. > > Cheers!! > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson > wrote: >> Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory >> will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop >> >> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >>> 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I >>> had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify >>> it and see if that gets it working. >>> >>> Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question >>> (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm >>> using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the >>> linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use. >>> Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the >>> proper icon file? >>> >>> Thanks for all your help Al. >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson >>> >>> wrote: >>> > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and >>> > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. >>> > >>> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >>> >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the >>> >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the >>> >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. >>> >> >>> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it >>> >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even >>> >> try. >>> >> >>> >> Cheers!! >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the >>> >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and >>> >> > copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy >>> >> > the registration details from one and paste it into the other. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >>> >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually >>> >> >> (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've >>> >> >> only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is >>> >> >> funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh >>> >> >> into it from my laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" >>> >> >> application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a >>> >> >> call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate >>> >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source >>> >> >> code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the >>> >> >> twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice >>> >> >> would be appreciated. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Cheers!! >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors >>> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> > "Robin Paulson" writes: >>> >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be p
Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2
I'll have to look through the community mails then. I have seen people referring to optimization problems. Perhaps I'm running into some questionable s/w. For now, my requirements were to only show a mobile phone registering with the s/w PBX. Voice was not part of the initial requirements. However, for demonstration purposes I would really like to have it working. Thanks for you confirmation Al, it gives me a start if I have to work on this problem. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured >> to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do >> NOT have a SIMM card in my phone. >> >> I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other >> side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so >> badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU >> utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know). >> >> What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to >> do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or >> am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability. >> >> Cheers!! > > I have made SIP calls using the linphone CLI over wifi with WPA-TKIP and the > audio quality was fine. I don't recall which codec it was using, but the > Freerunner is certainly capable of making high quality SIP calls over > encrypted wifi. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Already checked but no joy. Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the "About" menu item that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory > will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop > > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I >> had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify >> it and see if that gets it working. >> >> Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question >> (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm >> using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the >> linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use. >> Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the >> proper icon file? >> >> Thanks for all your help Al. >> >> Cheers!! >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson >> >> wrote: >> > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and >> > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. >> > >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the >> >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the >> >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. >> >> >> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it >> >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even >> >> try. >> >> >> >> Cheers!! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the >> >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and >> >> > copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy >> >> > the registration details from one and paste it into the other. >> >> > >> >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. >> >> >> >> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually >> >> >> (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've >> >> >> only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is >> >> >> funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh >> >> >> into it from my laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" >> >> >> application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a >> >> >> call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. >> >> >> >> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate >> >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source >> >> >> code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the >> >> >> twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice >> >> >> would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers!! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > "Robin Paulson" writes: >> >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to >> >> >> >> (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, >> >> >> >> and get access to the debian archives directly? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra >> >> >> > 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ___ >> >> >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> >> >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2
I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do NOT have a SIMM card in my phone. I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know). What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability. Cheers!! -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify it and see if that gets it working. Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use. Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the proper icon file? Thanks for all your help Al. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson wrote: > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. > > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. >> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even >> try. >> >> Cheers!! >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson >> >> wrote: >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy >> > it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the >> > registration details from one and paste it into the other. >> > >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. >> >> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package >> >> by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed >> >> to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order >> >> to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my >> >> laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can >> >> then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this >> >> is really going to suck. >> >> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code >> >> (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle >> >> debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be >> >> appreciated. >> >> >> >> Cheers!! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > "Robin Paulson" writes: >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) >> >> >> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access >> >> >> to the debian archives directly? >> >> > >> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M >> >> > of space but SD cards are cheap. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
