Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: I will patch some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Olivier Migeot a écrit : On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: I will patch some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) I'm from the very north (Lille) and surroundings. Let me know if you're interrested . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Olivier Migeot wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: I will patch some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) It's around Lille. A fix-party is scheduled at 'La braderie' on saturday (5th sept.). Mine should get patched soon (by Thomas) and i'll post feedback, if he doesn't burn my phone. Otherwise, i'll post insults ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/fixing-bug-1024-successful-reports-tp3299014p3558879.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
As the Braderie is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of what could happen to your phone... P.S. : If I don't post message after Thursday, call the Police, Kazer would have killed me ... KaZeR a écrit : Olivier Migeot wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: I will patch some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. Where in France are you doing this? I could all be very interested ;) It's around Lille. A fix-party is scheduled at 'La braderie' on saturday (5th sept.). Mine should get patched soon (by Thomas) and i'll post feedback, if he doesn't burn my phone. Otherwise, i'll post insults ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: As the Braderie is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of what could happen to your phone... My... I won't be able to make it. Too bad. I hope something similar will occur around Paris later. Good luck with the Braderie anyway. -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Olivier Migeot a écrit : On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: As the Braderie is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of what could happen to your phone... My... I won't be able to make it. Too bad. I hope something similar will occur around Paris later. Good luck with the Braderie anyway. Okay, but if you come on our coutry side one day, you'll be welcome to be fixed ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hi there ! I updated my (by adding a 10uF cap in parallel), and the result is totally excellent ! I can stay up to 4 days without pluging my FR, and during those days calling 1h. I tried on SHRu QtMoko v8, same results. So, I can say it's fixed for me. I will patch some other french FR the coming days. I'll ask to post here. David Garabana Barro a écrit : O Martes, 21 de Xullo de 2009, ivvmm escribiu: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I have fixed it a month ago with a new 0805 22 uF capacitor. Since then, having deep_sleep active, I have not suffered from recamping nor lost any call :) Although I haven't measured battery sleep time, I can assure it's far higher than before. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
O Martes, 21 de Xullo de 2009, ivvmm escribiu: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I have fixed it a month ago with a new 0805 22 uF capacitor. Since then, having deep_sleep active, I have not suffered from recamping nor lost any call :) Although I haven't measured battery sleep time, I can assure it's far higher than before. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 15:52 +0200, David Garabana Barro wrote: O Martes, 21 de Xullo de 2009, ivvmm escribiu: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I have fixed it a month ago with a new 0805 22 uF capacitor. Since then, having deep_sleep active, I have not suffered from recamping nor lost any call :) Although I haven't measured battery sleep time, I can assure it's far higher than before. I had the same fix (22uF 0805 cap) done last week, with the same results as above. For extended batter life, again, nothing firm, but I was able to use my FR for three days (calls, SMSs, ~1h of GPS, general screwing with it) without requiring a recharge. The reduced battery drain in suspend is quite noticeable, about 5-7% overnight. This fix really puts the FR into a useful battery life range. Kind regards, Toaster signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Paul Fertser schrieb: Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) Simply slowly pull the wlan board, it unglues easily. Be careful dismounting the can, better spend more time on it. Just pull it a bit with a pin-pointed knife in every reasonable place, eventually it will come off. Good luck! I DID IT!!! without smd capacitor disassembling until the modem circuit si uncovered is a real bitch! took ma over an hour to get the can off! the good part: you dont need an smd capacitor!!! you need a capacitor which is small enough to fit in the gsm antenna and some of these lacquer wires (which are used in unductor coils) solder a wire to c1009 (+) the lacquer wire easyli fits through the can even when colosed, colder it to the capacitor (+) solder another wire to gnd of the capacitor solder this wire anywhere where you can find gnd (i used the drilled holes at teh edge od teh mainboard) place the capacitor in teh gsm antenna, close everything and you are done, no smd capacitor needed, no smd soldering station needed. it works!!! standbytime now is 100 hours which means for me 2 and a half day of typically phone usage total uptime till i need to charge. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Dnia 10 sierpnia 2009 12:53 Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com napisał(a): Paul Fertser schrieb: Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) Simply slowly pull the wlan board, it unglues easily. Be careful dismounting the can, better spend more time on it. Just pull it a bit with a pin-pointed knife in every reasonable place, eventually it will come off. Good luck! I DID IT!!! without smd capacitor disassembling until the modem circuit si uncovered is a real bitch! took ma over an hour to get the can off! the good part: you dont need an smd capacitor!!! you need a capacitor which is small enough to fit in the gsm antenna and some of these lacquer wires (which are used in unductor coils) solder a wire to c1009 (+) the lacquer wire easyli fits through the can even when colosed, colder it to the capacitor (+) solder another wire to gnd of the capacitor solder this wire anywhere where you can find gnd (i used the drilled holes at teh edge od teh mainboard) place the capacitor in teh gsm antenna, close everything and you are done, no smd capacitor needed, no smd soldering station needed. it works!!! standbytime now is 100 hours which means for me 2 and a half day of typically phone usage total uptime till i need to charge. Good job! I just want to ask You about some nice photos of this wire/fix : Best regards Bartlomiej Zimon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Bartłomiej Zimoń schrieb: Dnia 10 sierpnia 2009 12:53 Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com napisał(a): Paul Fertser schrieb: Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) Simply slowly pull the wlan board, it unglues easily. Be careful dismounting the can, better spend more time on it. Just pull it a bit with a pin-pointed knife in every reasonable place, eventually it will come off. Good luck! I DID IT!!! without smd capacitor disassembling until the modem circuit si uncovered is a real bitch! took ma over an hour to get the can off! the good part: you dont need an smd capacitor!!! you need a capacitor which is small enough to fit in the gsm antenna and some of these lacquer wires (which are used in unductor coils) solder a wire to c1009 (+) the lacquer wire easyli fits through the can even when colosed, colder it to the capacitor (+) solder another wire to gnd of the capacitor solder this wire anywhere where you can find gnd (i used the drilled holes at teh edge od teh mainboard) place the capacitor in teh gsm antenna, close everything and you are done, no smd capacitor needed, no smd soldering station needed. it works!!! standbytime now is 100 hours which means for me 2 and a half day of typically phone usage total uptime till i need to charge. Good job! I just want to ask You about some nice photos of this wire/fix : Best regards Bartlomiej Zimon can post photos in the next days (need to fix the fix a little and also need to find the battery for my camera) ( but i won't open up the can again) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Bernd Prünster a écrit : Paul Fertser schrieb: Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) Simply slowly pull the wlan board, it unglues easily. Be careful dismounting the can, better spend more time on it. Just pull it a bit with a pin-pointed knife in every reasonable place, eventually it will come off. Good luck! I DID IT!!! without smd capacitor disassembling until the modem circuit si uncovered is a real bitch! took ma over an hour to get the can off! the good part: you dont need an smd capacitor!!! you need a capacitor which is small enough to fit in the gsm antenna and some of these lacquer wires (which are used in unductor coils) solder a wire to c1009 (+) the lacquer wire easyli fits through the can even when colosed, colder it to the capacitor (+) solder another wire to gnd of the capacitor solder this wire anywhere where you can find gnd (i used the drilled holes at teh edge od teh mainboard) place the capacitor in teh gsm antenna, close everything and you are done, no smd capacitor needed, no smd soldering station needed. it works!!! standbytime now is 100 hours which means for me 2 and a half day of typically phone usage total uptime till i need to charge. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, We (french FR comunity) are trying to solve the #1024 bug. I put a 10uF SMD cap inside my GSM can, and I saw an increased battery life. your way to solve it is not as clear as I understand it. Correct me if i'm wrong : you only soldered the (+) of the c1009 cap to the GND ? or other way my english tell me you did : on wire on the (+) of the cap, on on the (-), and the two wires on the GND of the phone ? By advance thanks a lot. Thomas openmoko-fr.org freerunner.daily.free.fr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hi, We (french FR comunity) are trying to solve the #1024 bug. I put a 10uF SMD cap inside my GSM can, and I saw an increased battery life. your way to solve it is not as clear as I understand it. Correct me if i'm wrong : you only soldered the (+) of the c1009 cap to the GND ? or other way my english tell me you did : on wire on the (+) of the cap, on on the (-), and the two wires on the GND of the phone ? By advance thanks a lot. Thomas openmoko-fr.org freerunner.daily.free.fr maybe i screwd the description up i attatched a pic describing how i did it. basically solder a lacquer wire to c1009's (+) wich you will fit through the shielding can so you can add another c in parallel which can be any kind of tht electrolyte capacitor small enought to fit in the gsm antenna. ofcourse this c also needs to be connected to gnd, so take another peice of lacquer wire to connect the other capacitors (-) to gnd. hope it helps (pics will be postet within the next days) br inline: 1024.png___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Nice a picture is universally understandable ! Just a doubt I still have: why did you draw the c1009 outside the GSM antenna. regarding to this picture : http://n2.nabble.com/attachment/2971067/0/GSM_Modem_rework_try.JPG It is inside ... I'm a bit upset ... Bernd Prünster a écrit : Hi, We (french FR comunity) are trying to solve the #1024 bug. I put a 10uF SMD cap inside my GSM can, and I saw an increased battery life. your way to solve it is not as clear as I understand it. Correct me if i'm wrong : you only soldered the (+) of the c1009 cap to the GND ? or other way my english tell me you did : on wire on the (+) of the cap, on on the (-), and the two wires on the GND of the phone ? By advance thanks a lot. Thomas openmoko-fr.org freerunner.daily.free.fr maybe i screwd the description up i attatched a pic describing how i did it. basically solder a lacquer wire to c1009's (+) wich you will fit through the shielding can so you can add another c in parallel which can be any kind of tht electrolyte capacitor small enought to fit in the gsm antenna. ofcourse this c also needs to be connected to gnd, so take another peice of lacquer wire to connect the other capacitors (-) to gnd. hope it helps (pics will be postet within the next days) br ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i attatched a pic describing how i did it. basically solder a lacquer wire to c1009's (+) wich you will fit through the shielding can so you can add another c in parallel which can be any kind of tht electrolyte capacitor small enought to fit in the gsm antenna. Fit in the gsm antenna? Do you mean fit under the gsm shield? And using ceramic cap is recommended because low ESR is needed and electrolitic caps can't provide that. If you connect your electrolitic cap in parallel with the original one (as you did) then you're probably ok but nevertheless i recommend to use ceramic. Also shield itself is connected to the GND plane so i wouldn't go that far for a ground. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
I've been following this discussion from a distance, not paying much attention, but I'd like to warn that this fix is better done by replacing the original capacitor. One should avoid putting wires inside an RF can, especially if they run towards the outside of the can. It ruins the can shielding purpose... you're probably setting yourself up for some other different problem derived from RF interference after you do that... Citando Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr: Nice a picture is universally understandable ! Just a doubt I still have: why did you draw the c1009 outside the GSM antenna. regarding to this picture : http://n2.nabble.com/attachment/2971067/0/GSM_Modem_rework_try.JPG It is inside ... I'm a bit upset ... Bernd Prünster a écrit : Hi, We (french FR comunity) are trying to solve the #1024 bug. I put a 10uF SMD cap inside my GSM can, and I saw an increased battery life. your way to solve it is not as clear as I understand it. Correct me if i'm wrong : you only soldered the (+) of the c1009 cap to the GND ? or other way my english tell me you did : on wire on the (+) of the cap, on on the (-), and the two wires on the GND of the phone ? By advance thanks a lot. Thomas openmoko-fr.org freerunner.daily.free.fr maybe i screwd the description up i attatched a pic describing how i did it. basically solder a lacquer wire to c1009's (+) wich you will fit through the shielding can so you can add another c in parallel which can be any kind of tht electrolyte capacitor small enought to fit in the gsm antenna. ofcourse this c also needs to be connected to gnd, so take another peice of lacquer wire to connect the other capacitors (-) to gnd. hope it helps (pics will be postet within the next days) br ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: I've been following this discussion from a distance, not paying much attention, but I'd like to warn that this fix is better done by replacing the original capacitor. Yes, with the one with low ESR, so one most probably will have to use a ceramic. One should avoid putting wires inside an RF can, especially if they run towards the outside of the can. It ruins the can shielding purpose... Probably yes, probably not. Depends on luck and black magic. But you're right, if routing anything outside the shield can be avoided, it should be. Or at least some small nice ferrite should be placed on the fire as near to the can as possible. Thanks! -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Paul Fertser schrieb: Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes: I've been following this discussion from a distance, not paying much attention, but I'd like to warn that this fix is better done by replacing the original capacitor. Yes, with the one with low ESR, so one most probably will have to use a ceramic. One should avoid putting wires inside an RF can, especially if they run towards the outside of the can. It ruins the can shielding purpose... Probably yes, probably not. Depends on luck and black magic. But you're right, if routing anything outside the shield can be avoided, it should be. Or at least some small nice ferrite should be placed on the fire as near to the can as possible. Thanks! Jup thats right it depends mostly on luck. i just gave it a shot and it works flawlessly, if it had not worked i could have simply unsolered it. i did not take a close look at the schematic but i would guess this c1009 acts a s buffer for modem power supply, right?! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i did not take a close look at the schematic but i would guess this c1009 acts a s buffer for modem power supply, right?! Yes, for the main PLL power supply. In the deep sleep mode this PLL is turned off and due to the layout bug 10uF buffer is not enough. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
giacomo `giotti` mariani schrieb: Hello to Everyone, I'm seriously thinking to perform the fix on my phone, but I'm afraid to have some lack of knowledge. Is some guide/how-to available out there? Thank you very much Giacomo i know this would better be asked on teh hw list, but here i target a wider audience: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) who knows the answers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com writes: i treid to remove the can from the modem, but there is this other small pbc ontop of it that seems to be glued and connected to the mainboard through a connector plug. my question: how to remove the can without damagin anything? (there is this metal mesh which is glued on aswell , but that wont be a problem) Simply slowly pull the wlan board, it unglues easily. Be careful dismounting the can, better spend more time on it. Just pull it a bit with a pin-pointed knife in every reasonable place, eventually it will come off. Good luck! -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hello to Everyone, I'm seriously thinking to perform the fix on my phone, but I'm afraid to have some lack of knowledge. Is some guide/how-to available out there? Thank you very much Giacomo -- /_\ The ASCII Per comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hi, I am also interested to get my daily phone :-) Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right yet requires an insulator. That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is required. Some questions: I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that recamping, but I am able to do phone calls. I tried to start logging the battery with r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do date mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/ PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo sleep 5 done battery-data to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not to be installable with opkg (OM 2008). Where do I get it? What capacitor voltage is required or what capacitor could be used or where could I get a sample / buy one (22uF 0805 low-ESR)? I have no matching screwdriver, but an ESD save place to solder the capacitor with a Weller WECP 20. Is there any hardware fix party planned near stuttgart (I could provide the ESD equipment)? Is that ok? Thanks Lothar Am 22.07.2009 um 16:46 schrieb Daniel Willmann: Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:48:25 +0400 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports. Since about 5 days I'm using my #1024 fixed device as my main phone (before I only used it with my test SIM) and so far stability is pretty good. I measured standby time (GSM on, phone in suspend) of around 140h which makes the Freerunner much more comfortable to use in my opinion. While increasing the capacitance does work to solve #1024 the actual problem is that the capacitor is not integrated in the regulator feedback loop (iirc). So while it's not the correct solution it's probably the best you can do without another hardware revision. Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
On Thursday 23 July 2009, Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I am also interested to get my daily phone :-) Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right yet requires an insulator. I don't think there's enough space under the can. If there had been I doubt people would have been using the methods in this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-June/001230.html That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is required. The method in the post above avoids the long wire and unsoldering, but still needs insulation above and below. Some questions: I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that recamping, but I am able to do phone calls. You can't make or receive the call when the phone isn't registered, and in worst case the phone will spend ~1/3 of the time reregistering. Networks seem to handle reregistrations differently though - O2 UK sometimes thought the phone was switched off when I called it, while Orange and t-mobile always connected. This may have been luck though... I tried to start logging the battery with r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do date mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/ PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo sleep 5 done battery-data to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not to be installable with opkg (OM 2008). Where do I get it? It wouldn't help on om2008.x as it isn't using FSO. You should be able to use apm or the sysfs battery entry to get similar information though. See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Am 23.07.2009 um 18:11 schrieb Al Johnson: On Thursday 23 July 2009, Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I am also interested to get my daily phone :-) Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right yet requires an insulator. I don't think there's enough space under the can. If there had been I doubt people would have been using the methods in this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-June/001230.html Ok, I don't know. As of reported to work I would do it as described. But I also wait about my reseller (pulster) if this is a warranty. Then I wouldn't do the work by my self :-) If not, I would like to see some pictures from that. Are there any around? That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is required. The method in the post above avoids the long wire and unsoldering, but still needs insulation above and below. The insulation I think is better than not doing it :-) Some questions: I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that recamping, but I am able to do phone calls. You can't make or receive the call when the phone isn't registered, and in worst case the phone will spend ~1/3 of the time reregistering. Networks seem to handle reregistrations differently though - O2 UK sometimes thought the phone was switched off when I called it, while Orange and t-mobile always connected. This may have been luck though... I indeed had some reregistering and saw that by the symbol :-) I tried to start logging the battery with r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do date mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/ PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo sleep 5 done battery-data to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not to be installable with opkg (OM 2008). Where do I get it? It wouldn't help on om2008.x as it isn't using FSO. You should be able to use apm or the sysfs battery entry to get similar information though. See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs I am look forward to update to a newer version of whatever. There I only need something: Working phone (calls/sms), working GPS (with navit), working WLAN (at least with scripts). A plus would be bluetooth with headset for car radio and optionally working hands free. Has the Om2009 such a feature set? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:48:25 +0400 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports. Since about 5 days I'm using my #1024 fixed device as my main phone (before I only used it with my test SIM) and so far stability is pretty good. I measured standby time (GSM on, phone in suspend) of around 140h which makes the Freerunner much more comfortable to use in my opinion. While increasing the capacitance does work to solve #1024 the actual problem is that the capacitor is not integrated in the regulator feedback loop (iirc). So while it's not the correct solution it's probably the best you can do without another hardware revision. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fixing bug #1024 successful reports?
Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
