Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

A+  Jordi! As an academic, most useful educational materials to leraners community have to be FAIR (findable accessible interoperable and reusable)! So selective use of filtered and uncorrect "quoted" opinions have a flavour of ... project! Those who say that they come as samaritain

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

Salam, If I remember well, the colonists also came to "help". To help someone/nation you need to be humble enough to give them the abstract things (Materials in this case), especially when dealing with young/fresh fellows. I believe from my long teaching experience that its much better to

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi Souad, I basically agree with your inputs, except the one about the “booklet”. Printing is expensive and not good for the planet. Most of the time it goes to the waste can. I can suggest an alternative thing. A specific web page, remarked in each even web page top menu that

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

This is really very ugly. Are we really crazy to believe that the community is not able to decide on their own? I’ve seen a similar situation in other regions and this is outside of the code of conduct (written or not), or the elections proccesses. There are several points here: Have the

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

I'm sorry too to ask you read my email again, as stating the level of engagement is necessary for me to show how the sender are interested and participated in the community and who she has the needed knowledge about the individuals who are deserve to be elected. Stating the committees she is

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Do I need to remind you its not about the numbers, I'm in an exam room with >200 student do you want me ask them to send +1 for 2 Marks. (Just a hypothetical example I will never do that, but others may see nothing in acquiring support in such a way and call for that off-list). Dr. Sami H.O.

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Wafa, Thanks for your email. I, among other members of AFRINIC in Egypt, received the following email from you many times. I wondered at that time why should I vote for these candidates specially for those in Eastern and Southern regions while each one was the sole candidate in

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

This email raises so many questions. While as I have clearly stated – I do not have ANY problem with anyone lobbying on behalf of candidates and their beliefs – however – I have serious issues when other groups that are meant to be neutral start doing this. As such, I need some clarity based

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Sami, My point here is that the campaigns need to be done *only* in a neutral way, not by board or committee members, not by staff, and only to people that you *already* know. So, they should be done only in the official ways determined in the elections process. I’m not, *at all*,

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Sorry Sami, But I fundamentally disagree with you. When you use your position on community based bodies that are meant to maintain a position of neutrality to lobby in this manner - and state that it is "part of our strategy" - without specifying who - it implies that the strategy is that of

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Sander, I'm using a public email (outlook.com) not my official one (sustech.sd), however my signature is MY signature I use it to show the people the ground where I stand when I say something. If I signed as Lecturer in ICT then I say something about Football people should take it as coming

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

So wafa use her public email too :-) Get Outlook for Android From: Sander Steffann Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:27:55 PM To: Sami Salih Cc: Sander Steffann; Andrew Alston; Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Dear Noah, Thank you for your interest in the Foundation. Please let me clarify: (1) Larus Foundation sponsors events in different regions in addition to those in Africa. For example, very recently we have sponsored a few candidates of different ethics to attend ICANN in Morocco. You can find

[Community-Discuss] 2019 Board Elections: Fix against having sole candidates WAS Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hello Ahmed Fadl and the community, Soliciting for votes is not really a problem, indeed if the proposed candidates have strengths that will be of use to the Board, AfriNIC Ltd and the community at large, their promoters and campaign team can work hard at members buy-in for their proposed

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Sami, (re-sending because the previous email had a wrong from address) > I see this email sent to individuals to support/campaign for some nominators > (I'm not in agreement with all proposed names) who are among the public slat > of AFRINIC candidates, IMHO any one is free to campaign. The

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Sami, > I'm using a public email (outlook.com) not my official one (sustech.sd), > however my signature is MY signature I use it to show the people the ground > where I stand when I say something. Exactly. Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi, > (1) Larus Foundation sponsors events in different regions in addition to > those in Africa. For example, very recently we have sponsored a few > candidates of different ethics to attend ICANN in Morocco. You might want to check your geography there and pick a different example  I

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Sami, > So wafa use her public email too :-) Again: it doesn't matter which email address you use, when in the content of the message you claim affiliation. Cheers, Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi Anne-Vivien, I don’t have any doubt about the good intent, but looking at your attachment, it is more negative than good for the community, at least, in my opinion. It is discussing about older versions of the policy proposals (even withdraw ones), so it confuses people. It is citing

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

One more point to add. I recall it has been said that fellows don’t sign an NDA and you also indicated that everything is public. However, when I read your T, it says: II. FELLOW’S OBLIGATIONS J. LARUS’s intellectual property rights (including but not limited to agreements,

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

Hi Wafa, As I’ve expressed in many occasions, I’m all for freedom of speech. However, when you have a position elected by the community, you need to take care and avoid miss interpretations. That’s means that in your messages you must clearly state “hat-off” and not remark your positions as

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

Wafa, While I agree you have the right to campaign for anyone you so please – and I believe that is very much the case – 1. Your email was read as an implication that the ASO was supporting said candidates – which I don’t think anyone believes – and the question has been asked in multiple

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi Jordi, > I think this should not be done by third parties, but authors and staff (see > our previous email on this about a 1-2 pages PDF), not going into 2 and 3 > above and making sure that is done 1 week before the meeting, so only > *latest* proposals/versions are considered. I accept,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi Sander, I agree with your if we mean summary of the discussion, but actually I was meaning summary of the proposal, which in fact is already requested in the proposal forms and is already done by authors. Sometimes that's more a single paragraph, so in those cases I think it should be up to

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

Hi, > • Your email was read as an implication that the ASO was supporting said > candidates – which I don’t think anyone believes – and the question has been > asked in multiple regions to clarify this I have asked my local representatives. I think it is up to the ASO/AC to determine if they

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi, > I agree with your if we mean summary of the discussion, but actually I was > meaning summary of the proposal, which in fact is already requested in the > proposal forms and is already done by authors. Sometimes that's more a single > paragraph, so in those cases I think it should be up

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Hi Jordi, Thank you for your input. Our intention of making this education package is to help those newcomers by providing them a brief introduction to the massive amount of discussions on the mailing list. Afrinic website is complicated and intimidating for beginners and we all know it is not

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Salam, I see this email sent to individuals to support/campaign for some nominators (I'm not in agreement with all proposed names) who are among the public slat of AFRINIC candidates, IMHO any one is free to campaign. The undersigned signature represent the level of engagement of the sender in

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

It won’t be read that way? Well – the very fact that this email landed up on the list seems to imply otherwise – and the communications I’ve had off list – also seem to imply otherwise. Jordi’s email (though Jordi can speak for himself!) also seems to imply that he believes this email

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

DEAR ALL, I STUMBLE ON THE INFO BELOW, IS THIS TRUE AND IS IT OKAY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? Dear, My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. Can the board and the staff investigate this? Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided voluntarily their emails or if they have participated in Afrinic lists, or if those emails are part of their Afrinic

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

@ Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Jul 2019, at 19:35, hkari...@isoc.or.ke wrote: > > Taiwo, > I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting in > Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that we > were given summary and links to the policies before

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

@Taiwo Ohhh... I almost forgot... AFRINIC has a newcomer's day. Even the PDP Co-Chairs gets to address newcomers on the current policies for each meeting with earlier summaries fellows or newcomers have been introduced to on AFRINIC's website. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:15 PM Caleb Olumuyiwa

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Taiwo, I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting in Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that we were given summary and links to the policies before the meeting. We also had a webinar before the meeting and materials emailed to us and

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

> On 3 Jul 2019, at 17:27, Sander Steffann wrote: > > Hi, > >> • Your email was read as an implication that the ASO was supporting said >> candidates – which I don’t think anyone believes – and the question has been >> asked in multiple regions to clarify this > > I have asked my local

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

Dear Taiwo, I do not speak for AFRINIC but I will like to correct some wrong assumption or impression in you email. See comments inline below in blue color markings On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 2:32 PM Taiwo Oyewande wrote: > Hi all, > > Taking a good look at this resource, it is obviously a summary

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

@hellen. Thank you for you insight. Please can you attach a copy of the summary given to you to help new intakes get up to speed. - this is what I encourage and hope AFRINIC can give to new comers and hopefully distribute in the new comers session- . @ caleb .. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Community-Discuss] 2019 Board Elections: Fix against having sole candidates WAS Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 4:12 PM Sunday Folayan wrote: > Let us grab some pop-corn and stayed tuned to this movie channel. > M 樂 very funny. Noah ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Dear Ahmed First and foremost, welcome on-board this community mailing list since I am seeing you post for the first time ever and I hope you will continue to engage in various discussions as a member of the community now. So, I have been catching up with email and I would like to also

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Jordi, On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:51 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: > I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. > I hope you have come down. > > Can all the people that got those emails confirm if they have provided >

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Hi Noah, I’m sure we all have contacts from lots of people from the community, but we use those contacts for the reason they have been provided, is not lawful to use those for anything else. The point here is that even if I’ve your email because we have contected about operational

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

, it happens in life, and yet now we >> > >>>> want to cry when someone else does the same thing. >> > >>>> Let me also say ? it?s not like this hasn?t been happening >> > >>>> before ? and I want to quote from the OIF website: _IOF >&

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

@ Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Jul 2019, at 19:35, hkari...@isoc.or.ke wrote: > > Taiwo, > I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting in > Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that we > were given summary and links to the policies before

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Dear Anne-vivien, On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:32 PM Anne-vivien Paris wrote: > Dear Noah, > > Thank you for your interest in the Foundation. Please let me clarify: > I had missed your email but just for clarification, I am not interested in the foundation actually. > (1) Larus Foundation

Re: [Community-Discuss] 2019 Board Elections: Fix against having sole candidates WAS Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections

On 3/Jul/19 15:10, Sunday Folayan wrote: > I propose the following fixes: I also agree that it's better to focus on constructive fixes rather than labour what has already happened. We could all do that for days and we'll still be spinning our wheels 12 months from now. > c) Where there is

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

I spend 20% of my e-mail time unsubscribing from lists I was signed on, that I have zero clue about. I don't wonder how my e-mail address was obtained (I mean, I could guess since Google'ing myself actually returns a usable result), but I just don't have the time. A further 10% of my e-mail time

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Fully Agree with Sanders comments bellow. We already have the frameworks in place. On 7/3/19, 8:22 PM, "Sander Steffann" wrote: Hi Jordi, > I think this should not be done by third parties, but authors and staff (see our previous email on this about a 1-2 pages PDF), not

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

Salam I hope you reply Ahmed, since we have very bad experience with unknown fellows who come once to raise suspicious issue then disappear ! Looking for your positive continuous engagement. BR Dr. Sami H.O. Salih Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST Head of R, NTC, SUDAN