Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:56:41 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
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On 5/15/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People that want to use Qt prob. prefer Qtopia over OM, so I think GTK is
the only correct
On Mon, 19 May 2008 08:17:27 +0200 Stefan Gojan
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:56:41 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
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On 5/15/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People that
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green wrote:
| Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| | Greetings all,
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| | I wonder if it would be useful for devel purposes to have the OM
| | sourcetree imported into LXR
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) belkocze:
[...]
please READ THE EMAIL. suddenly the use of efl means We are efl based. the
non-use of shipepd gtk apps means we dont support gtk and so on are all
bizarre views people hold and are espousing on these lists. they are not true.
we use EFL for
On Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:15 +0200 Piotr Duda [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) belkocze:
[...]
please READ THE EMAIL. suddenly the use of efl means We are efl based. the
non-use of shipepd gtk apps means we dont support gtk and so on are all
bizarre views people
Hey guys,
A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now,
we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are
producing...so whats up?
Are they already producing the Freerunner?
Steffen
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Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
Steffen Winkler wrote:
Hey guys,
A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now,
we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are
Hallo Michele,
* Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
Uhh... please not more features, a working phone is big enough at
first!
Tim Niemeyer
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I don't think they are implementing other features... it is a bit too late.
I think they are testing what they already have.
:)
Tim Niemeyer wrote:
Hallo Michele,
* Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is
2008/5/19, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
It is OK if they need more time, we have already been waiting for a
couple of years, so we can wait for a couple of weeks more. We just
want to hear the
Hi,
I tried it two years ago with the german provider base (they had the
first UMTS/GPRS flatrate). They gave my device some internal IP address.
To get my device accessible from the internet I wrote a script that
build an SSH tunnel (with port forwarding from server to mobile device)
from
There ought to be a specialization of Dialer to be able to type your
voicemail password without having it echo, switchable dynamically.
Just an idea - my son was complaining that his cheap Nokia didn't have
such a feature, so I figured that OpenMoko should.
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda like
an ultrasound :)
digger
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a
while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April
Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to
Enlightenment (E17) and the main
How does one go about getting the new software version as a qemu image?
I am intrigued... and since I have (in the last week or so) started
having doubts about getting a freerunner I would very much like
something to inspire me again. It is not the freerunners fault, by the
way, that I am having
Subject: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: Mon 19 May 08 10:27:25AM -0400
Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
... and the main applications from the GTK-based apps
(developed by OpenMoko and OpenedHand) to QTopia (but using X11, of
course).
Thanks for
Hi to all (have been reading along this list for a long time :),
Sure you can use the Freerunner without gsm. It will just be was any PDA
without gsm-modem (well it will be better ;)
Jake
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How does one go about getting the
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Brandon Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either way, you could write a simple program on the phone to keep connecting
to an end point (server) and give the server reverse access (stunnel) back
to the device.
Yeah, thats what I was hoping to avoid :-)
I was
I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have
been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be possible to
switch to them in a direct and clean way.
OF COURSE THEY ARE :-) Carsten has made it very clear on this same
list within the last few days that all
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There ought to be a specialization of Dialer to be able to type your
voicemail password without having it echo, switchable dynamically.
Just an idea - my son was complaining that his cheap Nokia didn't have
such a feature,
Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: Mon 19 May 08 12:16:30PM -0400
Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have
been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be possible to
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software.
I've done Daily Snapshot Reviews since January. I enjoy bug hunting
and communication. Where can I get this image? Does it run
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and
gets the job done, why does it matter
Hmmm, the two would seem to counteract each other. (not displaying, but
remembering it for you)
I would be happy if it acted like my office phone does. It only displays,
and re-dials, the actual phone number, and nothing after that. This is easy
to do on a cell phone. Display the number typed
Ian Darwin wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a
while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April
Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to
Enlightenment
I second that. Is there a way to test the new software on qemu?
Looking forward to start hacking stuff on my OM...
Ivo
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How does one go about getting the new software version as a qemu image?
I am intrigued... and since I
The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you
build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says.
good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the
test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg.
Talked
Can you estimate a time frame?
Please
Alexander Frøyseth
steve skrev:
The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you
build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says.
good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on
On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:49:20 -0700
Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Steven Milburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm, the two would seem to counteract each other. (not displaying,
but remembering it for you)
Not at all. When I enter a password in my
Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and gets
the job
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not at all. When I enter a password in my blackberry, it shows the
character for a second, then puts in a *.
The Samsung Blackjack 2 does this too, pretty handy to making sure
you've typed what you intended.
Lasse Poulsen wrote:
On my old old old Nokia 1610 i
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
C++/QT versions running on my phone.
I really don't
Joachim Steiger wrote:
Nicholas A. Bellinger
| I wonder if it would be useful for devel purposes to have the OM
| sourcetree imported into LXR (http://lxr.linux.no/)
currently i would rather like to put that onto the 'todo when we have
a bit more time again' list.
This seems like a great
Andy Green wrote:
| currently i would rather like to put that onto the 'todo when we have a
| bit more time again' list.
Never, then :-)
didn't say that. but we have to prioritize stuff, else we will sink that
boat pretty fast by drilling to many holes without proper plugging em. ;)
| also
I've just posted about the software update that has been discussed here
today, so I figured I'd take this opportunity to tell you all about my blog:
gettingstartedopenmoko.wordpress.com
I welcome comments but please be gentle. I'm new to blogging.
Seriously, feedback and suggestions
yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to
Disty in EU and our HUB in the US.
We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. thats a 2-3
diffrence right there.
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Hey michael.
I think this is a great idea for you and other openmoko employees, but
why not just run your own wordpress? Its so simple.
Blogs.openmoko.com or something.
Either way, the idea of internal people blogging is great :)
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Brandon Kruse
On May 19, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Michael
I'm a Dope.
best case is I would start to test phones around the first of june. Then
pack and ship.
Air freight is probably 1 week to Fremont ca.
Sea is like 3-4 weeks.
hate logistics yet?
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Oh right, well thank you =].
You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they
already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in
the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?
I know its probably on the mailing list
Hey,
Erm, you say that SMS is free, or at-least receiving them is. Maybe if
you could implement such an application, you could get your server to
SMS your phone when you have important messages with a special trigger
code, and then you're phone would connect and download the messages?
Not
Ok . . . this a completely self interested question. I'm ALREADY IN
CHINA and would happily venture to the factory to get my hands on one
of these (I've been using a company phone for the last month waiting
for it to appear - the boss is starting to wonder).
Is this possible? Where in China is
One of the resellers in Germany appeared to be accepting orders last I looked,
but production handsets aren't shipping yet. See Steve's post from this
evening for an official update on timescales. Some key developers have
recently received preproduction handsets, so someone may have mistaken
Good idea, but not top priority for a little while.
M
Brandon Kruse wrote:
Hey michael.
I think this is a great idea for you and other openmoko employees, but
why not just run your own wordpress? Its so simple.
Blogs.openmoko.com or something.
Either way, the idea of internal people
On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:12:12 -0700
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hate logistics yet?
I'm sure that some people enjoy organising stuff like that, I'm
certainly not one of them!
Good to know that the phone is beginning to materialise though,
solar.george
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Your question was answered 27 minutes before you wrote to the mailinglist.
see: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html
I guess somewhere in the last week of june (when shipped via air). But
this is just my guess!
Hi,
It would be great if you could post instructions for emulating the new
software
solar.george
On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:54:56 -0700
Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just posted about the software update that has been discussed
here today, so I figured I'd take this opportunity to
Ian Darwin wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU software. [...]
Short form: functionally, it works. Among other things, the phone wakes
up reliably on incoming rings (assuming it's booted and suspended, of
course), and GSM voice works
Michael Shiloh wrote:
I've just posted about the software update that has been discussed here
today, so I figured I'd take this opportunity to tell you all about my
blog:
Cool!
Here is another FAQ entry (with a few holes to be filled in):
Yeah - I was thinking of that after I saw the questions regarding
running OSA on Qemu.
I'll post this as soon as I find out how to do this :-)
Michael
George Brooke wrote:
Hi,
It would be great if you could post instructions for emulating the new
software
solar.george
On Mon, 19 May 2008
Great, It will need a custom kernel patched for the emulator it appears.
George
On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:42:43 -0700
Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah - I was thinking of that after I saw the questions regarding
running OSA on Qemu.
I'll post this as soon as I find out how to do
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
no it was not announced. it was a management decision. :)
[CUT]
Im not trying to continue this thread, Im not trying to start any flame wars
about one toolkit vs another... Im very sorry if it looked like this - it was
no my intention... :-)
that's
digger vermont wrote:
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
shhh... don't get up the child :)
Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :)
It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line.
This [1] is not live neither it's building a Freerunner, but
Erm, you say that SMS is free, or at-least receiving them is. Maybe if you
could implement such an application, you could get your server to SMS your
phone when you have important messages with a special trigger code, and then
you're phone would connect and download the messages?
Not sure if
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Well, I much appreciate your work and your openness with community,
unfortunately I can't say the same about Openmoko in this occasion since
this should be an Open company and so I'd have appreciated it more if
the decision would have been debated before with
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Well, I much appreciate your work and your openness with community,
unfortunately I can't say the same about Openmoko in this occasion since
this should be an Open company and so I'd have
On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:
Thanks for posting your review. Perhaps you (or another Freerunner user)
can answer a few more questions:
How good is the audio quality when having a GSM voice conversation with
another person? Can the other caller
What about the Email-Push-Service. I don't know if this is provider
specific. T-Mobile Germany offers this service for about 5 €/month with
free transfer. I don't know how it works, but the name makes me think,
the provider pushes the mail to the phone.
Any ideas?
Greetings Bastian
Steven
Steven Kurylo wrote:
And you'd end up arguing about the colour of the bike shed none stop.
Some decisions openmoko just needs make to deliver us a phone.
I know and I appreciate it... I'd just like more if they would have a
better communication with us and with 3rd party developers (anyway
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the Email-Push-Service. I don't know if this is provider
specific. T-Mobile Germany offers this service for about 5 €/month with free
transfer. I don't know how it works, but the name makes me think, the
provider
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between
alphabetics and numerics; unfortunately the gesture needed to do this
(a triangle drawn counter-clockwise from lower left) is a bit hard to
it is?
Hi,
Seriously, feedback and suggestions are welcomed.
very good idea. Thumbs up!
Dirk
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