Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread roguemoko
On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and being a good friend;) If someone

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 08:01:47 roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends would get desperated. I

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Mosher
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread roguemoko
On 12/05/2009 10:39 PM, Steve Mosher wrote: Well, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Dale's case is somewhat special. You're right and I don't purport to be in possession of all the facts. The 9 months for which he had the device in his possession, in my eyes, signify his willingness

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread roguemoko
On 12/05/2009 8:42 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: You're right on this one too. I bought it knowing it was not still an usabe phone, and I didn't care about it Neither did I :) I'm a big believer in putting one's self into other peoples shoes. Open source, and the bigger picture, freedom of

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Mosher
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: On 12/05/2009 10:39 PM, Steve Mosher wrote: Well, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Dale's case is somewhat special. You're right and I don't purport to be in possession of all the facts. The 9 months for which he had the device in his

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-10 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Sábado, 9 de Maio de 2009, Craig Woodward escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: knew what you were getting into, bravo for you.  For us, it doesn't make getting hit with a bat any more pleasurable, despite how much you tell us you enjoy it. You could try to

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-09 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For the Conspiracy Theorists out there: Steve and I are discussing this off-list. For everybody else: This list will now be free of my vitriol while Steve and I talk. Enjoy. Steve Mosher wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: Hi Steve, I appreciate your

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread arne anka
Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. you put up your freerunner for sale at ebay months ago. you don't write anything productive on this list. why don't

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread arne anka
Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread arne anka
I appreciate there is a very high identification with the product among the remaining users. But please dont behave like this is the Scientology mailinglist. Using an open phone obliges you to be open minded :-) it has nothing to with identification but with dale's way to act. he doesn't use

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 08 May 2009 09:47:00 Christoph Pulster wrote: Please discuss different point of views and dont call Dave a troll. The fact is, Freerunner was promoted as a phone. A lot of customers are not happy with the Freerunner as a daily phone. Sales are running very low for this reason.

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. you put up your freerunner for sale at

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread arne anka
Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly for testing only). So I want to react for once as well: then there's no need for you to feel addressed :-) You see, in the end, Dale's not that wrong: a year after I bought the phone, I would at least expect a stable

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
Cant let this pass ... On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:33 +0200, arne anka wrote: Hmmm ... I do contribute and I do use my freerunner (sometimes, mostly yeah, and there we are again. _i_ for one do not have complaints (at least no significant amount different from other phones i used) about the

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in such a calm

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. dale, you told us all of this already -- at least ten times. Sources? I don't think it has been ten. and I've

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you very much for a rational contribution to this thread, Franky. Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: so, how is a globally true statement of fit to be used as ... possible? it might be true for _you_, but it isn't for _me_ -- so please, always be aware that those statemants express only _your_ point of view, not an objective

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee: arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just like to say thanks for addressing the points I make in

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui -- Frink! Today is Pungenday, the 55th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Marcel wrote: I'm sorry to contradict you (am I really?), but using Nazi slogans in such I call for the rule of Godwin's Law! Rui nice 1! Franky

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve, I appreciate your replying to this thread. I would however point out that I believe that you should have already been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list: I sent three emails to Openmoko asking about getting

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel wrote: Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 14:43:16 schrieb Dale Maggee: arne anka wrote: Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. ... beautiful and intelligent people in the world, and your country reflects that... :) ) wow. insulting and slimy at once! I'd just

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Get your facts straight... he doesn't use an fr No, I don't use one, but I own one. That's the whole problem: I had to buy another phone, just to have a phone. and he does in no way contribute http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool -- what do

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Pulster wrote: IMO most misunderstandings happen because marketing of the Freerunner was focused on mobile phone. So customers expect a mobile phone to use as a mobile phone. However Freerunner is a multi-purpose developement

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-08 Thread Steve Mosher
Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve, I appreciate your replying to this thread. I would however point out that I believe that you should have already been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list: I sent three emails to

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread Gothnet
arne anka wrote: nope. he's just a troll. he's just saying what a lot of people are thinking I still hope to use my OM for *something*, but the chances of it ever being a reliable mobile phone are looking pretty slim. -- View this message in context:

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. Before I bought My Neo, I was told by OM that it would work as a phone. Once I got it and said WTF This doesn't work as a phone! I was told by OM that 2008.8 would. So I waited. It

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread jeremy jozwik
seriously... go write the prime minister or something. if your not going to contribute your just wasting everyone else's time On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka wrote: Bitter much? : ) nope.

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guten Tag, Sieg Heil. Seriously... You may not have heard of it, but There's a concept that's been around for a while called Free speech... you know, as opposed to free beer. Goebbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin.

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-07 Thread Steve Mosher
Hi Dale. I got a note from the people who handle these issues. In looking through our store records we were unable to find any order from you at openmoko.com. That doesn't mean you haven't purchased a phone. If you could, provide me with the details of your purchase. Who you

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-06 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) My guess would be that a whole lot of people have realised that their $400 Neo is better used as a boat anchor, and put them on ebay. or in the

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-06 Thread Yogiz
Bitter much? : ) On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000 Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) My guess would be that a whole lot of people

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-06 Thread arne anka
Bitter much? : ) nope. he's just a troll. On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000 Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-06 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:09:35 Dale Maggee wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) My guess would be that a whole lot of people have realised that their $400 Neo is better used as a boat anchor, and put them on ebay. or in

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-06 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hehe, what gave you that idea? ;) Yogiz wrote: Bitter much? : ) On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:09:35 +1000 Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?)

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:27:59 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I haven't tested them all..), they

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread rakshat hooja
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread rakshat hooja
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:22 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread KaZeR
David Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/5/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro. We have about 15 distributions around but as far as I know (I

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and the the community doesn't seem to be pushing together for One Working Distro.

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:22:03PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community work seems to be slowing down now (because of the summer?) and

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Petr Vanek
Edit /etc/paroli.cfg (or /etc/paroli/paroli.conf, look for it since I don't know from heart and the phone is in another room), and set to true the activated status of advanced and restart paroli. lol a few corrections only: in /etc/paroli/paroli.conf enable settings: [settings]

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Marcel
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze than OM2009.

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Pander
Marcel wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 08:27:59 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: OM2009 testing 2 was released some days ago. So far ~3 e-mails on the list about it. New version of Mokomaze was released some days ago, too. Around 50 mails. To me this tells that people are more interested in Mokomaze

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) Angus

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread jeremy jozwik
i barely use my phone so openmoko is working great as a ogg and gps tool. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really

Re: Ain't it funny..

2009-05-05 Thread KaZeR
Angus Ainslie-2 (via Nabble) a écrit : On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way