Re: [computer-go] light vs. heavy playouts in Many Faces

2008-10-20 Thread Olivier Teytaud
It's also possible that when David says lite playouts he means something heavier than what we think.I doubt even Mogo's heavy playout resembles strong play but is simply tuned with some knowledge that can be implemented in reasonable time. Our heaviest playouts are slower but not not

[computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
The C reference bot indeed had a simple bug. Everything was fine except for when the final move choice was made, I forgot to check for eye. I am surprised it played as strongly as it did because it seems like it would have always filled eyes, but the logic of not selecting a move that has no

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
And now after about 11,000 games we are within 1 standard deviation and the score is very close to 50% so I have confidence that we have 2 functionally equivalent bots. I might now look into building one in the Vala and/or genie language. - Don On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 08:39 -0400, Don Dailey

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Joshua Shriver
Where is the C version for download? -Josh On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The C reference bot indeed had a simple bug. Everything was fine except for when the final move choice was made, I forgot to check for eye. I am surprised it played as strongly

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 14:41 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: Where is the C version for download? I will eventually put it out there, but I wanted to polish it up, comment it, take out dead code, etc.If you (or anyone else) wants a version now I'll let you have it, just email me in private. I

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Michael Williams
I just quit my job, so maybe I'll whip one up in C#. Don Dailey wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 14:41 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: Where is the C version for download? I will eventually put it out there, but I wanted to polish it up, comment it, take out dead code, etc.If you (or anyone

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Christoph Birk
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Don Dailey wrote: And now after about 11,000 games we are within 1 standard deviation and the score is very close to 50% so I have confidence that we have 2 functionally equivalent bots. Why are they not running on CGOS? Christoph

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Vlad Dumitrescu
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 22:30, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will build a web site soon and hope others participate with conforming programs in any language or system. The format I would like is that you zip it up and it unzips to a directory (or directory tree.) Preferably cross

Re: [computer-go] programming (languages) light-simulation contest

2008-10-20 Thread John Tromp
Claus Reinke wrote: As for me, i'm really NOT interested in knowing what langage is good for go programming. That's simply not a question i can ask myself, nor anyone else. This question doesn't make any sense for me. Still if someone can get the standard light playout right in less than 10 code

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:49 +0200, Vlad Dumitrescu wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 22:30, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will build a web site soon and hope others participate with conforming programs in any language or system. The format I would like is that you zip it up and it

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Christoph Birk
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Don Dailey wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 13:47 -0700, Christoph Birk wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Don Dailey wrote: And now after about 11,000 games we are within 1 standard deviation and the score is very close to 50% so I have confidence that we have 2 functionally

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Darren Cook
I will build a web site soon and hope others participate with conforming programs in any language or system. I'll tentatively raise my hand to make a php version. I'm interested in two versions: plain PHP (which will be slow) and a version which uses a custom module that will basically be a

[computer-go] jref, cref

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
Hey, look at this! A coincidence perhaps but these two entries are right next to each at the moment, same ELO rating: 623022 Jref-081016-2k 1330 1912008-10-21 00:55:13 623023 Cref-081020-2k 1330? 272008-10-21 00:55:13 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [computer-go] programming (languages) light-simulation contest

2008-10-20 Thread Don Dailey
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:57 -0400, John Tromp wrote: Claus Reinke wrote: As for me, i'm really NOT interested in knowing what langage is good for go programming. That's simply not a question i can ask myself, nor anyone else. This question doesn't make any sense for me. Still if someone can

Re: [computer-go] reference bots java and C

2008-10-20 Thread Jason House
On Oct 20, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Darren Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will build a web site soon and hope others participate with conforming programs in any language or system. I'll tentatively raise my hand to make a php version. I'll tentatively raise my hand for a D2 version. It's a