[Computer-go] Fwd: mental imagery in Go

i'm looking for people with expertise in ​art, ​ computer graphics ​,​ and/or AI software to help me make a video series about mental imagery in Go, partly with a view to expressing mental images in the form of heuristic rules that a program could use to generate and evaluate candidate moves. any

Re: [Computer-go] Mental Imagery in Go - playlist

to err, or not to err... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08b0iw3qiAIindex=5list=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Mental Imagery in Go - playlist

​Thanks for the link to the CMU CNN paper, Steven, which ​was very interesting. I noted with some pleasure that they included a fovea stream - although maybe that is a bit of a misnomer, as whereas animal foveas roam around the image, building (i think) a symbolic structural description of the

[Computer-go] Mental Imagery in Go - playlist

Thanks for the replies to my first message; i looked at the links you supplied and comment on them later in this email. I noticed that Google does not show you the playlist when you look at episode 1 of the series (of currently 3 videos), so you may have missed the second two episodes which are

Re: [Computer-go] Mental Imagery in Go - playlist

introducing... *HALy* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZa2cklrj20index=4list=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S -- ​personal website http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Mental Imagery in Go - playlist

strategy is KISS, which stands for Keep It Simple, Stupid! more to come On 4 August 2015 at 10:33, djhbrown . djhbr...@gmail.com wrote: ​Thanks for the link to the CMU CNN paper, Steven, which ​was very interesting. I noted with some pleasure that they included a fovea stream

Re: [Computer-go] how do I start building a Computer Go AI?

you enrol, unless you are like Mozart. i would recommend reading the links in this to get a taste of what the mountain you want to climb looks like: http://www.citeulike.org/group/5884/library/order/year,desc, -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown

[Computer-go] Nao Go anyone?

. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7JJDT4jcA0=PL4y5WtsvtduozO-9oG5nZZI8IPUD6EDif=12 ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Overcoming the Monte Horizon Effect

. Walter and Bruce pointed the way to how Zen et al can be rescued from the Monte swamp on Go mountain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SJbEWuvlMM=28=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Could you please stop using "Zen" and stop posting here?

yes to both requests ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] what the point is for such a [level playing field] tournament

there are 2 points: 1. for research reasons, provided all the entrants were open source and full disclosure. John McCarthy (the father of AI) pointed out many years ago (footage featured in my movie "computer Go to come"), it would be like a one-design sailboat competition, so that it would be

[Computer-go] MIG26: The Horizon Effect (Part 1)

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[Computer-go] The Horizon Effect (Part 2)

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Re: [Computer-go] Limit on processor power?

John McCarthy advocated a level playing-field like one-design sailboat races for AI competitions. having competed in some of those (sailboat races, that is), i can attest that even in one-design formulas, the field is not entirely level, as flukey winds and the occasional freighter going through

[Computer-go] computer Go to come

. yes i do misunderstand how anyone can believe Lighthill was right to say AI cannot ever happen whilst simultaneously not saying people should stop trying to climb the unclimbable mountain of "Boom! combinatorial explosion" like the silly old farts featured in my latest cinematic masterpiece

[Computer-go] Group Strength (Part 1)

​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X8a-SoasFgindex=6list=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer

[Computer-go] Programme NAO to play Go and talk about it

velopment [7] https://www.aldebaran.com/sites/aldebaran/files/nao_datasheet.pdf <http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/kismet/kismet.html> <http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-downloa

[Computer-go] re Mental Imagery

> Many Faces of Go gives reasons for its moves after fact. It reasons about > the position using go proverbs, life and death analysis, group strength and > connection information, etc. If you have a copy, you can ask it to explain > its reasons for making a move. > Many Faces of Go is a

[Computer-go] Maximum Frequency method

thank you for sharing the paper. "the Maximum Frequency method is based on the maximization of the difference between the expected reward of the optimal move and that of others" intuitively it feels that biasing random search towards the optimal route would yield reduced failure rates, yet it

[Computer-go] You be the Judge

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[Computer-go] tsume-go perception experiment

Dear G and B, thank you and Haylee for participating. i have produced a preliminary video of the experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVMYMYM7kEM=11=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S ​i hope you don't mind being presented as a computer-generated voice :) Please advise whether the

[Computer-go] open bank

a start: 1999 Static analysis of life and death in the game of Go. Ken Chen, Zhixing Chen. https://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~games/go/seminar/2002/020703/ld.pdf -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown

[Computer-go] re Static analysis of life and death in the game of Go. Ken Chen, Zhixing Chen.

and "false eye". or am i missing something? -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Life and Death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOAFYutILU=8=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org

[Computer-go] Do you see?

> "When I click on a youtube video, I don't expect much. But I do expect to > be at least marginally entertained" > In ancient Rome, the plebeia (commoners) were ruled by a government comprising an Emperor and a Senate. Plebs had no say in how society functioned, but they were allowed to allowed

[Computer-go] what do you (or does your computer) see?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoO7Nhlf_k4=PL4y5WtsvtduqNW0AKlSsOdea3Hl1X_v-S=10 Please reply by posting a comment on YouTube ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

ot understand if you raise them in a YouTube comment. I am aware that the video touches on several myths whose historical origins and current implications are not common knowledge. -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown

Re: [Computer-go] copying the human natural processes

i never have, did not, and do not propose biomimicry. indeed, it seems to me that things are moving in the exact opposite direction, for of late, most of my opponents across the internet Go board seem to have adopted AyaBot et al playing styles, and for all i know i am playing against man-machine

Re: [Computer-go] I would like people to play with correct handicap to get a more reliable rating

. whereas the majority of teenage kgsers i encounter suffer from hyperhubris amongst a plethora of other sociopathological handicaps, mathematically, it ought not to matter a whit to a bot's own self-esteem when the witless up themselves against it because the kgs ranking algorithm surely ought to

Re: [Computer-go] Goggernaut Russia+China vs The World stalled machine cycles

. As a lifelong pacifist [2], i would prefer it had a kinder, gentler name, one that semiotically signifies United peoples, in contrast to the doublethink [3] NWO which really means OWN because everything doublethink means the opposite of what it says; as in 1913 when they said "Federal Reserve"

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 "Deans and department heads"

. i may have just been unlucky, but in my experience such people are impediments to progress rather than catalysts of it, as their principal preoccupation is cya and/or empire-building the anarchic web is probably a more fruitful Eden time is money, so the less money you spend, the more time you

Re: [Computer-go] Vol 69, Issue 5 hoping for a respect as the lottery win

. Aretha Franklin wanted r-e-s-p-e-c-t, but frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn. this note is not a riposte to the latest epistle in a stream of libelous personal abuse, but a clarification intended to stimulate thought among any young-at-hearts that may also subscribe to this forum. why would

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

. "sharing code is typically not going to be practical." that's not what i suggested. perhaps someone else can explain the concept of message-passing distributed architecture better than me ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

[Computer-go] modus operandi

"To have a joint effort there would have to be a strong financial force to pull everyone into the same time table, licensing model, and so on". Money does make the world go around. Anthropologists and sociologists and investigative journalists have revealed that throughout the history of mankind,

Re: [Computer-go] where do I start?

. . Sometimes - maybe always - a good night's sleep helps one see the picture more clearly in the morning. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to stop writing emails late at night and shoot my mouth off because i shoot myself in the foot in the process. As i did last night. I need to

Re: [Computer-go] impact of AI on Go ... Where / How do i start ?

it rather depends on what you think AI is all about and what you want to achieve. there are two kinds of people in the world: those who are curious, and those who just want to make yet another cloned ticky-tacky mousetrap so they can compete on the Go playing-field because they're no good at

[Computer-go] When is a group not a group?

orld microdomain like Go. I recommend reading anything John McCarthy has to say on this subject. -- http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] seeking an algorithm for circumscribing a shape

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Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

thank you very much Ben for sharing the inception work, which may well open the door to a new avenue of AI research. i am particularly impressed by one pithy statement the authors make: "We must go deeper: Iterations" i remember as an undergrad being impressed by the expressive power of

Re: [Computer-go] Lee Sedol's reviews on AlphaGo games

-- patient: "whenever i open my mouth, i get a shooting pain in my foot" doctor: "fire!" http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Beginner question : how to choose a board representation

Jean-Francois Romang wrote " I want to start something new. :-)" do you mean an engine new to Go programming, or just something new to you? if the latter, you could copy and paste a published algorithm or recode alphago which is fully described by its Nature paper. that would be like

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

, but no. Just no. >> >> one has to expect a certain amount of abuse when going public, and to >>> expect that eager critics will misrepresent what was said. >>> >> >> Your vast experience in the field means your opinions were formed way >> before we

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

dex.ru>: > >> I think the error here is that the game outcome is not a normaly >> distributed random value. >> >> Dmitry >> >> 30.03.2016, 12:57, "djhbrown ." <djhbr...@gmail.com>: >> > Simon wrote: "I was discussing the results

[Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

ample size. perhaps you could ask a statistician next time. -- patient: "whenever i open my mouth, i get a shooting pain in my foot" doctor: "fire!" http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Comput

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

uot; doctor: "fire!" http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

pt properties with simple postfix possessives such as "is" (eg "group X is weak"). And AHA's goals have direct English equivalents (such as "invade moyo Y" or "make a base for group X"). ref: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2205530 QED (Quite E

Re: [Computer-go] "English Explanations" based on Neural Networks

for that, probably. ;-) >> >> -- >> Petr Baudis >> If you have good ideas, good data and fast computers, >> you can do almost anything. -- Geoffrey Hinton >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > -- patient: "whenever i open my mouth, i get a shooting pain in my foot" doctor: "fire!" http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

On 31/03/2016, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: > somehow he went into a > "strange loop", and in the end he was asked to stop posting. asked by the very person i was trying to help! That was the last straw. Ironically, whilst i was openly trying to help all montes, not just

Re: [Computer-go] (no subject)

my foot" doctor: "fire!" http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home https://www.youtube.com/user/djhbrown ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] joseki tutors

thank you Robert, Petr and Michael for sharing; i have to admit i was surprised by the number of joseki tutors out there; i vaguely remember it was all started by smartgo, wasn't it? btw, does smartgo run properly under wine on Linux? I am bemused by josekipedia's use of vox populi to vote for

[Computer-go] Postscript... Preface

= Go talking software (featuring coalesced expert commentaries on Alphago's mistake in game 4 and a suggestion for an enduser-useful variation network editor student programming project) ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] Postscript... Preface

Igor, you are used to seeing game trees with the game record (= 'main line') at the top, and variations underneath, which is how they are usually presented - and gogui 'thinks' the same way as you, and automatically labels all branches of the tree as variations A,B,C etc. with the expectation

[Computer-go] OmegaGo

6D out of the blue is no mean achievement,... 60+ years ago, the market for gizmos in UK was flooded with cheap Japanese copies of European products; but whilst innovation and product quality improvement by European manufacturers faded as their fat cat owners complacently went cocacola-soaked

[Computer-go] Is Go group pattern recognition by CNN possible?

Surely, someone, somewhere, has used, or tried to use, a CNN to label groups in a Go game 361-pixellation? Q: what's the point of Go? A: 361 (you would have thought someone else would have already thought of that one) Minsky and Papert threw a spanner into the works of the NN Magi of the day,

Re: [Computer-go] Postscript... Preface

/04/2016, Igor Polyakov <weiqiprogramm...@gmail.com> wrote: > it bothers me that the main line is not the main line > > On 2016-04-15 23:35, djhbrown . wrote: >> <http://lcipm.blogspot.com.au/> = Go talking software >> (featuring coalesced expert commentari