From: David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like to see 30 minutes per side, since
that's pretty typical for human games.
I'd like to see 10 minutes per side, obtaining an accurate
rating more quickly, although I realize that shorter times are
less suited for MC based programs.
Is it an
Just realize that with 30 minutes for each side, each round will be 1 hour,
so for a reasonable rating (which is debatable) of 170 games this will
mean that one computer has to compete one complete week continuously.
I naturally will use the 19x19 server, but it will be not often that I can
play
Ah. Orego will have the ponder feature soon.
I am busy to include pondering for FirstGo.
Should be ready within a few days.
Edward.
On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote:
ponder means to use the opponents time to think
- Don
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong
etc.)
And: is the answer the same for 9x9 and 19x19 boards?
Thanks,
Edward de Grijs
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From: Sylvain Gelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I truly believe that we can make big steps in this direction and getting
much better (real not simulation) players that way.
Hi all,
Thanks for answering Sylvain.
I find MoGo already very impressive, so it surprised me that
you think that more big steps
From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am considering to change the time control when I change
over officially to 5 minutes instead of 10. 5 minutes seems
more than adequate for the Monte Carlo programs which play
quite strongly even at 2 minutes per game.
Hello all,
I prefer very short
Hi Sylvain and all,
Thank you very much for sharing the binaries.
I am very interested in a windows binary to use MoGo as an
extra sparring partner, (I cannot use linux at this moment),
I do not mind if the binary is slower, because even then
the MoGo program will be stonger then my
Hello all,
is something known about this tournament yet?
In
http://www.computer-go.info/events/future.html
is stated that this tournament would take place this year
in Germany, but so far no news.
Does somebody have more information?
Edward
Hi Stefan and all,
I really want to ask Eric van der Werf, if I could get a copy of his
program steenvreter, which won gold in Amsterdam 2007. Do you have some
contact with him or with some other programmers in the Netherlands?
No, not directly.
I suspect they are reading this
Hi all,
For CGOS 19x19 I prefer a short time control (10min/game) because:
1) More quickly a more accurate rating can be established.
I do think that the rating differences inbetween programs due
to a shorter time setting do not change significantly (more
than a few stones),
Subject: RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun,
2007-10-28 at 11:54 +0100, Edward de Grijs wrote: Hi all, For CGOS
19x19 I prefer a short time control (10min/game) because: 1) More quickly
a more accurate rating can be established. I agree with Don. 10 minutes
If I combine some reactions so far I understand that
the main motivation to have 30min/game or longer time
controls is that that is more comparable to the pace of
humans, and that is is more easy for some new
programs (not MC based)
I can imagine that some humans will argue that blitz
maintaining full control as a server?
Thanks,
Edward.
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:17:03 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
[computer-go] Re: Update of MoGo binary release, and windows version
available! To: computer-go@computer-go.org Adding quit does not help?
Edward de
What would get YOU to bring your program to the Congress? What would you
like to do once you are there? Cheers, David
Hi,
due to my limited funding: compensate the travelling costs, or
make it possible for me to send the program, so it can run on
a local computer there, or
by remote
Hi to all,
Can someone help me with this problem, for which I cannot
find a solution:
I am trying to run MoGo in an automatic way, using the
cygwin toolkit.
The problem in its simplest form is this:
If I use MoGo on the command line, typing the commands which
are send by stdin (i suppose) it
Thanks Hideki, Chris and Jacques for your replies.
Hideki wrote:
Then, you can make a very simple program that passes a file to stdout
first and passes stdin to stdout after the end-of-file of the file.
And use it as a.out file | mogo arguments.
Is this not the way a tail -f works?
This is
Hi,
I have a solution now, thanks for all the help.
For those interested, the solution for me:
I use a ruby script (thanks Chris), to open de mogo
program (with IO.popen) and with gets en puts
it is possible to read the commands from stdin,
and outputs these commands to mogo.
Obvously ruby
Nobody really believes ratings are 100% right on the money accurate. But
it's silly not to use the most correct method possible. Ratings are a very
useful approximation to reality and you might as well get as close to that
reality as you can.- Don
But then we have to take the amount
Just for the record,
For 19x19 I like a time setting of 5 to 10 minutes (max) per side.
My main two reasons:
1) It takes to long to establish a good rating estimate.
2) For the near future I can only run on a single cpu machine
at night. During the day my wife is using this computer, and
Hi all, thanks Yamato for the positions.
FirstGo version 330 results:
1k playouts - 27/50 passes10k playouts - 30/50 passes100k playouts -
33/50 passes
(100k takes about 8 seconds/position average on P4 2.67Ghz.)
Edward.
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