e five days. I had
promised to do this before the end of September; but various
distractions have prevented me. I would really like to do this soon
though; I invite you to suggest dates that would suit you.
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The November 2006 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday,
November 5th, in the European evening and American midday,
starting at 18:00 UTC and ending at about 22:00 UTC.
The Formal division will use 13x13
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Wedd
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The November 2006 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday,
November 5th, in the European evening and American midday,
starting at 18:00 UTC and ending at about 22:00 UTC.
Reminder - it's tomorrow.
The results of yesterday's KGS bot tournament are now reported at
http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/20/index.html
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fa-beta pruning
implies not perfect solution at all, because
evaluation function is not perfect.
Alpha-beta pruning will not replace your evaluation function by a
perfect one :-)
It will reduce the number of nodes that you need to evaluate.
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player the the 3 black stones enclose the 257 intersections.
Maybe not, but it is obvious to a mathematician. BTW, you mean 357, not
257.
The message is: Tasks which are for a human completly trivial are hard
to formalize.
Chrilly
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up is connected to the b11 group.
The b11 group is connected to a15.
Therefore a15 is connected to the live c3 group, and cannot be killed."
I leave it to you to find the flaw in this logic.
ch.sgf
Description: ch.sgf
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ically it is the subgame problem. White to move, what is
the status of the white marked stones. Treated locally, each stone can
be easily saved, but alas, one can dance only on one party.
So, the status of each of those two stones is "unsettled". Not much of
a proble
ko fighting. :)
Seems unlikely. I can't imagine two competent players, say 1p or
better, coming out of the opening with one of them having a two-stone
lead. And, the right to win all ko fights without having to fight them
is only worth half a stone.
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stones before it passes.
Registration is now open. To enter, please read and follow the
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The December 2006 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday,
December 3rd, in the European morning and Asian evening,
starting at 09:00 UTC and ending at about 14:00 UTC.
Both divisions will be five-round Sw
The results are at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/21/index.html.
Congratulations to AyaBot, and to SimpleBot!
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, with games on 11th 12th 13th
14th 15th. But I understand that SlugGo is off sick at present, and as
it is the program that would most enjoy such time settings, maybe I
should wait until I hear that it has recovered?
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ml).
While we are at it, I suggest you remove the copy of kgsgtp.xhtml from
your webpages. It's worse to have outdated documentation on your pages
than no documentation, since everyone gets the updated one when
downloading the kgsGtp client.
Agreed. Done.
Nick
ified versions of GNU Go playing, but I
will welcome a genuine GNU Go and SlugGo.
The KGS page for the event is http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=255
The entry instructions, as usual, are at
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fixes the "five minute rule" bug.
Congratulations to the winner, MoGoBot19!
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;five-minute rule"
but has been fixed.
I am also considering having a Fast tournament, with maybe a minute each
for 9x9, or four minutes each for 19x19. Would there be interest in
such an event? What board size, and time limit, would be popular?
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an be allowed to slip a little without inconveniencing anyone. I shall
use one second a move byo-yomi.
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ed that the organisers will allow this?
I once entered Professor Chen's HandTalk for a human Go tournament which
I was organising, in Oxford. I received no complaints from its
opponents, but several from stronger players, and from British Go
Association officials, who asked me never to do
all the players to agree to play the computer
and in fact many players begged to play it.
What was ironic, was that didn't pay out a single penny but everyone was
happy!
I don't think you understand how mean Go players are. Many of them have
beards because they are too mean to pay
s the city. Does London use something like
Daylight Savings Time, making London time the same as GMT/UCT only part
of the year?
In the winter, London uses UCT; in the summer, it uses BST, which is
one hour ahead of UCT.
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omi would be fair on a 9x9 board.
I see no evidence there of such a consensus. (Even if I did, I would
ignore it.)
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.pl?url=http://www.maproom.co.uk/us
eful/ing-matti.html . Yang Yu-Chia (one of the three people in the
world with a credible claim to understand the Ing rules) has admitted
that he does not know whether Black can start the ko in the second
diagram.
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writes
Nick Wedd wrote:
I think
the 1989 Japanese rules are clearly defined for all cases.
The Japanese 1989 Rules are undefined for each final
scoring position! Details are available on my webpages
and in google
not sure what to do next.
One more vote for simple rules. :)
Agreed.
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lly invasion that does not
require answer, the more skilled player i.e player that correctly
passes should be awarded a point for his skill.
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n me,
where he started by placing eight stones where he wanted them, and I
then tried to live anywhere on the board. Usually I failed, but
sometimes I succeeded. So I think the answer to your question must be,
yes.
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delayed by a week.
Nick
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The January 2007 KGS computer Go tournament will be next Sunday,
January 7th, in the European evening and American morning, starting at
17:00 UTC and ending at about 23:00 UTC.
The Forma
My write-up of yesterday's KGS online computer Go tournament is now
available, at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/22/index.html
Congratulations to MoGoBot, undefeated winner of both divisions!
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s dead stones before
passing.
I like it too. But bots which fail to support it will continue to lose
games as a consequence.
I shall change the page, and avoid saying that IdiotBot claimed its dead
stones were alive.
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lf an hour before midnight GMT.
Registration is as usual, and is as described at
http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/how/index.html
The tournaments themselves are on the KGS site at
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=366 and
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=367.
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Reminder - it's later today
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Registration is now open for this Sunday's bot tournament. This will
use full-sized boards for both divisions. It will start at 16:00 GMT,
and take place in the Asian night,
.. the undefeated winner of both divisions of yesterday's bot
tournament!
My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/36/index.html
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rts at move 158.
and ends at move 182, when MoGo recognises that the 5-dan's ko threat
doesn't work, and connects the ko instead of answering it.
I found this impressive.
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The town of Leksand
http://egc2008.eu/en/leksand/index.php
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be there anyway - probably to a competitor
in one of the other events. There is a list of registrants at
http://egc2008.eu/en/registration/registered.php which you can sort by
nationality etc. But this has not yet received official approval.
Nick
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9x9
Game III 9x9
Played with 1.5 hours from the start of one round to the next
Sunday:
3/24/08 3:00 PM
Exhibition game (19x19)
Monday:
3/25/08 11:00 PM
Debate with participants
<<<<<< quotation ends >>>>>>
The time zone quoted above is GMT; that in the
http:
ave" room.
http://paris2008.jeudego.org/ gives the date as "Samedi 22 mars 2008"
and as "Saturday, March 22, 2008" so I assume that is correct.
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Mr. Ing.
No, the million-dollar prize was for winning a match against inseis -
young trainee professionals, about amateur 6-dan.
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I have put a report of the weekend's challenge games between MoGo and
Catalin Taranu 5p at http://www.computer-go.info/tc/
mainly to make it easier for people to find the game records.
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site at
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=372 and
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=373.
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The title of my original posting was wrong - it should have been April,
not March.
Nick
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Registration is now open for next Sunday's bot tournament. This will
use small boards, 9x9 for the Formal division
executables are
for Windows. However, go programming has moved on in the last few
years, and I would not be surprised to learn that there is little useful
material there.
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The tournaments themselves are on the KGS site at
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e dame
have been filled and the statuses of the groups agreed. They don't need
a bodge to help them with the counting.
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Reminder - it starts in a few hours (13:00 GMT), five hours after the
time of posting this).
Nick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Wedd
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Registration is now open for this Sunday's bot tournament. It will use
19x19 boards for both divisions
.
I think you mean 1h40m?
I also find summer-time (daylight saving) really confusing.
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the winners of last Sunday's KGS bot tournament.
My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/38/index.html
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ince then, I've been building test
harnesses, writing unit tests, and eliminating bugs.
Did you know that weakbot50k and idiotbot don't actually handle the
game end at all? Once both players pass, they switch to using gnu go.
I didn't know that, but it seems a sensible, robu
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Evan Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> Correction: HBotSVN was not reconfigured for s
f
game in 1 minute with such tools, without any workarounds.
PS. I sent a correction to the hardware but I see the report still has
the old information. LeelaBot was on 1 x Intel Xeon 5355 @ 2.66Ghz, so
"only" 4 CPUs.
Thank you for pointing this
gly here. I withdraw the
probation on Jason's bot, and offer my apologies to him. I shall
rewrite my report (and archive the old one, for the historic record).
Nick
Evan Daniel wrote:
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onable. What I have
right now considers a single move in isolation, but it should be
possible to consider a sequence of moves together. Essentially, it'll
increase the available data to use in the resignation decision and
avoid incorrect resignations at idiotic points.
On Thu, May 8, 2
understand me.. Thanks! Norbert
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d, and black thinks the opposite?
They resume play, and try to capture the stones which they think are
dead.
Nick
I hope you'll understand me.. Thanks! Norbert
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These pages may give the times of the rounds in your local timezone,
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These pages may give the times of the rounds in your local timezone,
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AyaMC and StoneGrid were the winners of yesterday's KGS bot tournament,
both undefeated, with 6/6 and 9/9 wins respectively. My report is at
http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/39/index.html
It is longer than usual, because I found quite a few of the games
interesting.
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ere run with a newer version of the
bot. IIRC, they ran with HouseBot 0.7 r763 while the earlier rounds
were run with HouseBot 0.7 r761.
Ok, I have corrected this, thank you for telling me.
Nick
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AyaMC and StoneGrid w
ier
rounds were run with HouseBot 0.7 r761.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
AyaMC and StoneGrid were the winners of yesterday's KGS bot
tournament, both undefeated, with 6/6 and 9/9 wins respectively.
My report is at
http://www
this, I got the version numbers the wrong
way round. I have now put them right, I hope.
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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John Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
After I review the game, it is hard to say ManyFace
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en away from home.
Regards,
Nick
Regards,
David
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Subject: [computer-go] July KGS bot tournament: full boards, slow
Registr
Reminder - it's tomorrow.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Wedd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Registration is now open for this Sunday's bot tournament on KGS. Both
divisions will be 5-round Swiss using 19x19 boards, 43 minutes each
sudden death. The Formal division w
larly high.
I would, as usual, appreciate it if readers would report mistakes. David
Fotland and Jason House, in particular, may have corrections to make.
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So if you want to test your bot under tournament conditions, please let
me know of a time that will suit you. This offer is also open to
entrants to the Computer Go tournament that will form part of the USGC
in Portland.
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Will it include a Computer Go event this year?
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ading this list, and email them privately.
I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team". I expect to deliver these
to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go. Gunnar will also be
speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
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nto Linux. If they can't even find an
operator, then they can hope that the operator I assign to them will
have the competence, and the time (they may be operating several other
programs) to get the stick etc. working.
That's all I can offer. I
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Nick Wedd wrote:
CrazyStonepossible possible
This is "yes" from my point of view. It all depends on the availability
of an operator.
I expect (though I cannot promise) that there wi
ged to run
the two events simultaneously.
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resses and unable to take part, and I may not
be able to get my write-up done until a week later.
(B.) Cancel the August event.
(C.) Hold it on August 17th.
Unless people here persuade me otherwise, I tend to prefer (C).
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"Gifu Challenge"), which has been in early October in the past. I
wonder if anyone here has any knowledge of the schedule of the Computer
Olympiad, or of the date of the Gifu challenge?
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Nick Wedd wrote:
October in the past. I wonder if anyone here has any knowledge of the
schedule of the Computer Olympiad, or of the date of the Gifu
challenge?
Nick
This is the schedule:
http://www.grappa
ideas, and exchange gossip.
Perhaps we (or the subset of us within a given country) could just pick
an existing conference (something on machine learning or games) and all
go there...
My impression is that in Japan, there are conferences like that.
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up in the room at the time it was meant to happen.
I left Leksand before the 9x9 game between Leela and a pro was
scheduled, but I have seen no report of it, and suspect that it suffered
the same fate.
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what can be done to develop the leading
programs on 9x9. It was relayed to the cinema-screen as a warm-up
before MoGo's game.
I will be back with the review as an SGF-file, that is what I managed
to note from her review.
Meanwhile, here is the game record:
pro-leela.sgf
Description: pro
I look at the game record, I see that at the end, the pro has 7:59
left, Leela 4:25. And Black is totally lost: White will capture the d4
group which only has two liberties, connecting her three groups which
already have at least four liberties each, and leaving Black's b2 and b7
group
s it was not finished by the players and KGS is
treating it as escaped.
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(and perhaps the
operator's) for my claim that LeelaBot had more than a minute left.
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't have an image of you for
http://www.computer-go.info/db/operson.php?a=Pascutto%2C+Gian-Carlo
Will you mind if I use that one? :-)
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The tournaments are on the KGS site at
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=409 and
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=410
These pages may give the times of the rounds in your local timezone,
depending on your browser and its settings.
Nick
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find a legal move, so it would make
the best illegal move it could find. This was typically to pick up my
queen, change its colour, and capture my rook with it.
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er and its settings.
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My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Dailey
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I saw an error in this, but when I looked again it was gone.
Yes, I normally make a few errors which I spot soon after uploading :)
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tournaments are on the KGS site at
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=411 and
http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=412
These pages may give the times of the rounds in your local timezone,
depending on your browser and its settings.
Nick
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