Lessened a bit, but not lifted.
On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:47 PM, mike wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/02/china.internet?gusrc=rssfeed=technologyfull
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i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open. went to the
eudora website, and see V8beta is available. is this a good choice to put in
vista? or is it too early.
when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did not
pick up filters, addresses, options
I'm trying to install tools for Visual Studio Express and I'm
Joe, you didn't post the actual error message you're seeing (as far as I
could see, anyway). Without that it's hard to know what to suggest.
In the meantime, you might look at the VSE installation forum. Lots of info
there:
At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open. went to
the eudora website, and see V8beta is available. is this a good choice to
put in vista? or is it too early.
when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it
Censoring content is not part of our agenda. We are in
compliance with applicable Federal regulations with regard
to common carriers.
Pardon the broad brush. Not all telecoms are evil.
This week the FCC told Comcast that they were bad boys because they were
inspecting their customer's packets
Do you think the FCC will react to such impudence with the same fervor
as they applied to a wardrobe malfunction?
Of course not.
Common carriers' needs to maximize profits at the expense of the consumer
are perfectly in line with the current government's standards for Protection
of Corporate
Can everyone here do me a favor and quit bashing religion.
I don't see that happening here. Perhaps you are reading something into
comments that are more than what was intended? This sometimes happens
when a sore spot is being discussed.
What I'm seeing bashed is religious extremism. Religious
Japan is decidedly not a Christian society (I think everyone can agree
on this) Yet they have some strict moral standards on what is allowed
of a sexual nature.
I think after a little bit of research the Rev. would want to withdraw
this example.
Most of the censoring being done on the Internet right now is not
religious based but content based on protecting Children from stuff
they should not have (Because some folks do not want to show or
exercise any restraint) and also to protect our children from being
exploited in a sexual
Qwest only offers usenet with their premium package..which is 45.99 or
something per month for 1.5 megabit. Under this premium price you also
get...wait for it...ONE pop account for email. Cox a couple of years ago
took usenet to the woodshed and dropped the retention rate form more then a
week
Do you think the FCC will react to such impudence with the same fervor as
they applied to a wardrobe malfunction?
I do not know and I can not predict what the FCC decides.
I am about the business of transporting voice and data.
If you pay me I will do it and I guarantee it will be reliable.
Unfortunately you mean 'last' not latest.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions, as I'm perfectly
happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9
They do not want their children to see this. (Hence my earlier quesion
about Kill Bill or The Passion of the Christ -- which is being
evaded.)
I am not a film critic. But Kill Bill was not Quentin Tarantino's best
movie to date. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as Reservoir Dogs,
the
I am not a film critic.
In our context the issue with both Kill Bill or The Passion of the
Christ (and many other films, I picked these two at random) was
excessive, graphic violence.
Should children be allowed to see such stuff?
Sex vs torture?
Who's values?
For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm
that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from
192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages appear 4 or
5 times a day.
There is no more information, so I don't know what causes ZoneAlarm to
Tom I will not argue with religious extremists are dangerous at every
turn. I know I am pilloried by my own church body, but I am not
above regulation so that extremists can be persecuted and
curtailed. (My firm belief is that any freedom will eventually be
turned into an abuse real fast by
Nope they do censor sexual stuff. Not to the extent that we do. We
tend to outlaw all of it, but they only outlaw explicit
content. (i.e. no penetration etc.)
Plus the % of Christian's is nil.. Their main religion is ancestor
worship. (Shintoism)
Stewart
At 10:56 AM 8/3/2008, you
Been there done that.
I also happen to agree with sister.
America tends to follow the traditions of the conservative Reformed
traditions which believe in regulation by the church through
government. (I a oppose this)
Check out John Calvin's experiment in Geneva in the 1500's.
Also their
At 10:13 AM 08/03/2008 -0700, mike wrote
Unfortunately you mean 'last' not latest.
Mike
Yeah, I know. Actually I'm still using 4.2.2 on this old workhorse
machine, and it suits me fine also! On my newer machines, I'm using the
last version. I'm hearing there are a few glitches using V7.1
Me too. I keep and cherish my Eudora paid V 7.1.0.9. Great. Why are
they trying to change it?...
Marcio
At 11:56 3/8/2008, you wrote:
At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not
open. went to the eudora website, and see V8beta is
Actually this wasn't in our context till you changed the context. It was
not children being protected from pornography or some kind of violience
pornography but rather the right to post children IN pornography. You seem
to be arguing for that very thing until the rubber hit the road and you
Qualcomm dropped Eudora and the mozilla group picked it up. They are
essentially trying to skin thunderbird to behave like eudora. If not for
this, Eudroa would be dead alltogether.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Me too. I keep and cherish my
Qualcomm the original owners of Eudora quit developing it.
They handed it over to the folks at Firefox/Thunderbird for them to
develop it as open source.
So any version that comes out after 7.1.0.9 will be free but
developed over/under the Thunderbird engine.
Stewart
At 04:18 PM
For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm
that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from
192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages appear 4 or
5 times a day.
192.168.1.2 is a non-routable address so this is from a computer on
You picked the movies at random? You watched them, right?
No, assuming that I had children I wouldn't permit them to view
these movies.
That would be my responsibility as a parent.
As an adult and a citizen I can watch any material I please.
And I can do it without governmental restriction,
See below.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm
that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from
192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages appear 4 or
5 times a day.
192.168.1.2 is a non-routable
hit START then RUN...when the window comes up type 'cmd' no quotes. In the
command window that comes up type 'ipconfig' again no quotes. Your ip
address will be in the results that come up, should be something like
192.168.1.x. You can do this with all machines connected to the router to
get
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird with
a Eudora hood ornament?
At 10:56 AM 8/3/2008, Sue Cubic wrote:
At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open. went to the
eudora website, and see V8beta is
I think the odd thing here is the port used. I'd check my running
programs as well as my startup.
For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm
that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from
192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages
Actually it is a better Thunderbird. I just installed it on both of
my machines and it installed over my thunderbird.
Better menu, better tools, looks a little more like Eudora, but still
an updated Thunderbird.
Stewart
At 08:08 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8
At 09:08 PM 08/03/2008 -0400, Fred Holmes wrote
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird
with a Eudora hood ornament?
Yes, that's what we're saying.
Sue
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At 08:22 PM 8/2/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can everyone here do me a favor and quit bashing religion.
No. When religion deserves not to be bashed, people, generally
speaking, I predict, will stop bashing it. But this is America, Stewart.
You're
Conclusion:
China which is not a Christian nation has a very strict moral code on what
is allowed and what is not. I can give you many examples out there.
I don't think there are any examples to give. Just because you, or
they, call it a moral code doesn't make it one. Particularly
Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics.
Stewart
At 09:37 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
Morals are set by society.
No, they aren't. Morals and society have nothing to do with
each other. Morals, even assuming such a thing exists, color the
way someone, individually, deals with himself, how he makes
Ethics, however, are very much a creature of society, etc.
Good essay, try to cut that son of a bitch down to five sentences,
please. We all ready know most of this.
Eschew obfuscation.
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Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics.
Not exactly. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality
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I can only account for myself, not others just as I would expect you
to account for yourself and what you do.
Yep. I am on the same boat as the Reverend here but I am not sure
where we are going. This boat looks a lot like a handbasket, come
to think of it...
Note third use and also see Websters #2
Stewart
At 10:21 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics.
Not exactly. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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And to quote a very conservative radio broadcaster there is a
shortage of hand baskets.
Stewart
At 10:35 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
I can only account for myself, not others just as I would expect
you to account for yourself and what you do.
Yep. I am on the same boat as the Reverend here
At 07:43 PM 8/3/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics.
Extant mammals = Unicorns. I gave you examples of clearly unethical
behaviors that might have been moral, assuming morals exist, but, rather
than consider them on their merits, such
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