I meant that corporations do not become feasible until government
matures enough to provide the infrastructure they depend on. Legal,
police, fire (some of my taxes go to volunteer fire dept.), roads and
laws to make trade possible. Since they are legal entities making
income, it is logical to
is this real looks like it, but never been asked for password before!
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:38:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Starpower Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If it is real, it is stupid. I would not respond to any such message.
I would rather lose the account.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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is this real looks like it, but never been asked for password
before!
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Subject:TERMINATION OF
This absolutely, positively looks like the classic phishing scheme that
everyone warns us about. Don't do it without checking it out with Starpower
first. They should have all this information already.
--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Judy Cosler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Judy Cosler [EMAIL
i agree about the phishing, but the return address seemed legit!
i tried to send to spoof @star it bounced back!
will try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This absolutely, positively looks like the classic phishing scheme that
everyone warns us about. Don't do it without
Just for future reference, what specifically makes you think it looks
real? I see no such indication anywhere.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Judy Cosler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is this real looks like it, but never been asked for password before!
Original Message
is this real looks like it, but never been asked for password
before!
NO WAY is this real. No real company would ever send out a message
requesting your user information and password.
There are other giveaways as well. First, the grammar is atrocious. Second,
the reply-to address is not
Short answer:
THIS IS NOT REAL. This is absolutely a scam. Report it to Starpower
NOT using the email address in the mail.
The long answer:
Look a little more carefully, and there are lots of things about it
that don't sound real at all. For starters, it sounds like a typical
phishing scam
It looks like a phishing email and a WHOIS search for the owner of the i12.com
domain turned up an organization in the UK. Of course, the classic sign is the
plain request for your password.
You shouldn't reply, but forward the email to Starpower's abuse reporting email
address.
Scott
i did!
thanks.
the from address looked real. that was what threw me off!
Scott McClure wrote:
It looks like a phishing email and a WHOIS search for the owner of the i12.com
domain turned up an organization in the UK. Of course, the classic sign is the
plain request for your password.
You
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Judy Cosler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i agree about the phishing, but the return address seemed legit!
i tried to send to spoof @star it bounced back!
will try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] if phish@,,, fails
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:53:24AM -0500, Judy Cosler wrote:
the from address looked real. that was what threw me off!
Remember - the from address on email is just like the return address
on a letter you might get in the paper-post. The post office doesn't
check the address when you mail a
StarPower already has full access to your email account... they have no need
for your password.
Silly Phishing scam.
- Brian
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Chris Dunford sez:
This is a classic phishing scam, so delete it and forget about it. Never
respond to ANY email that asks for passwords, account numbers, etc.
Also, never click on links to websites in emails that ask you to verify
your information. If it is a company/bank that you do have an
Don't blame the corporations. They play by the rules (and loopholes)
enacted by congress. And don't blame the GOP; the dems have had 2 years
of power and I've seen no effort on their part to fix this situation.
Not fair. With ultra slim majorities in the last few years, neither party
has been
Another way to avoid phishing attacks is to switch to Open DNS (opendns.com).
They filter known phishing sites and give you a warning page. (
http://www.opendns.com/features/phishing/)
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Chris Dunford sez:
This is a classic
All corporate income comes from the customer base (read the rest of
us), we pay all taxes, directly or indirectly. Corporations have two
choices over the long term - pass on all costs to their customers, and
taxation is a cost, or loose money until the capital investment is
gone and then
It's worse then you think if you are measuring this way..
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/28/business/fi-mozilo28
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All corporate income comes from the customer base (read the rest of
us), we pay all taxes, directly or
After careful review of the AP's story, Tax Foundation economist Josh
Barro found that the AP significantly overstated the number of large
corporations not paying corporate taxes.
Tax Foundation vs. GAO, who to trust? Hired guns for the radical right or
a non-partisan Congressional agency?
It's worse then you think if you are measuring this way..
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/28/business/fi-mozilo28
That is right, my figures did not include stock options, which often are
many times larger than the standard compensation.
I don't and can't imaging anyone who would.
But I guess that is okay if you are one of those be considers $5M/yr to
be a middle-class income.
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The argument was over the analysis of the GAO report by the AP. The
claim is that the AP misrepresented the GAO report. But then the
press never errs.
Matthew
On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
After careful review of the AP's story, Tax Foundation economist Josh
Barro
How do you conclude that corporate income belongs to the state via
taxation, and any reduction in the tax take is a subsidy?
The line income belongs to the state is nutty thinking and precludes
any rational discussion. Nobody but dead Marxist-Leninists ever takes
such an extreme position. You
On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Judy Cosler wrote:
is this real looks like it, but never been asked for password
before!
I would never respond to such a post. I can see all kinds of
reasons not to reply, and no reasons why I would.
Steve
That is why the original assertion is scary. The assertion was made
that profits not collected via taxation were a subsidy. A subsidy is
when you give something that is yours by right to another party to
encourage action by that party. For profits not claimed via taxation
to be a
Apple discontinued its free iCard service in July 2008. I had used
it a lot; it was a good way to send a modest email greeting card,
especially if you'd forgotten to snail-mail a regular card in time
for someone's birthday; and it was great for casual Christmas/
holiday season cards to
I don't and can't imaging anyone who would.
But I guess that is okay if you are one of those be considers $5M/yr to
be a middle-class income.
Maybe someone running for high public office?
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If you are referring to McCain, he was evading a question on income
wealth with an absurdly high number. You can't seriously believe he
thinks 5M a year is middle class.
Though he had the good sense to realize immediately, and say that his
joke would be taken seriously by his opponents. I guess
Not so. It is the highest in the industrialized world. See Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
The Problem with stating the rates are the highest is that while the
rates may be high, the actual amounts paid amount to among the lowest in
the world.
See for example:
For the third or fourth time I have been automatically unsubscribed to
this listserv because, the notice says, messages have been bounced back
from my Cox email account. Each time before I resubscribed, but this
time I have set up a gmail account for receiving listserv messages.
This message
Post successful. I've been using gmail for this for years. Just don't
expect to see your own messages until someone replies.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the third or fourth time I have been automatically unsubscribed to this
listserv because, the
Thanks for the reply.
However, I don't see my original message at all. This is the same as
different group that I belong to, a Yahoo group, that comes to a gmail
account. I can't tell if my message is received unless someone replies
to it.
John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
Post successful. I've
Actually, I resubscribed to the Computer Guys to the Cox address as well
as subscribing for same on the my gmail address, to see if there were
any differences. I figure in a few weeks the Cox address will be
unsubscribed once again.
My question: the gmail account is a POP address; I'm using
For the third or fourth time I have been automatically unsubscribed to
this listserv because, the notice says, messages have been bounced back
from my Cox email account. Each time before I resubscribed, but this
time I have set up a gmail account for receiving listserv messages.
I would not
However, I don't see my original message at all. This is the same as
different group that I belong to, a Yahoo group, that comes to a gmail
account. I can't tell if my message is received unless someone replies
to it.
You can always take a look at cguys.org or one of the archives.
If you are referring to McCain, he was evading a question on income
wealth with an absurdly high number. You can't seriously believe he
thinks 5M a year is middle class.
This is the guy who owns so many houses that he can't recall how many? I
could understand being a bit fuzzy about how many
IMHO, you should go whole hog and give up the POP. At least give it a
fair trial for a few months. Lots of advantages, though it takes a bit
of getting used to.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question: the gmail account is a POP address; I'm using
A reporter apparently noted that technically he owns no houses...this was on
politico. All of them are owned by Cindy or members of the family.
Mike
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are referring to McCain, he was evading a question on income
That is why the original assertion is scary. The assertion was made
that profits not collected via taxation were a subsidy. A subsidy is
when you give something that is yours by right to another party to
encourage action by that party. For profits not claimed via taxation
to be a
My question: the gmail account is a POP address; I'm using
Thunderbird. When I get messages via Thunderbird from this listserv,
what happens to the messages at gmail? Are they saved on gmail, or are
they erased when I view them in Thunderbird?
If you set it up as POP the messages are
Also unfair. I'm sure he knows how many houses HE has, but not how many
his rich wife with all her trusts has. And lets not get into the rich
wives area; I'm sure Cindy, with her measly $100M would be considered
middle class by Theresa with her $1B.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
If you are referring to
Not only that but Obama's income with his wife for last year was
listed as 4.3 million not bad for a guy who has done public service
most of his life.
Stewart
At 09:01 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:
Also unfair. I'm sure he knows how many houses HE has, but not how
many his rich wife with all her
That is why the original assertion is scary. The assertion was made
that profits not collected via taxation were a subsidy. A subsidy is
when you give something that is yours by right to another party to
encourage action by that party. For profits not claimed via
taxation to be a
Not only that but Obama's income with his wife for last year was
listed as 4.3 million not bad for a guy who has done public service
most of his life.
You should write a book too.
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My question: the gmail account is a POP address; I'm using
Thunderbird. When I get messages via Thunderbird from this listserv,
what happens to the messages at gmail? Are they saved on gmail, or
are they erased when I view them in Thunderbird?
The reason that I ask is for an archival
Has anyone tried unsuccessfully placing orders at Amazon.com recently?
I'm trying to order a few odds n ends but keep getting errors in
Firefox and IE6 - for about two weeks now.
I managed to order a single item just now, so I know they aren't down
entirely. Strange.
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