He who dies with the most toys wins. (I am not sure what.)
Grateful heirs, I presume.
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He who dies with the most toys wins. (I am not sure what.)
Stewart
At 09:13 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
Hmmm...does make one wonder who on this list has a very expensive lil red
sports car doesn't it? :-)
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In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:27:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
popoz...@earthlink.net
Hmmm...does make one wonder who on this list has a very expensive lil red
sports car doesn't it? :-)
D
In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:27:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
popoz...@earthlink.net writes:
Kind of reminds me of he old school yard argument on whose daddy
could beat up who.
Or
> Right now I would declare it even.
>
> They both have the same size.
>
> GIVE IT UP GUYS!
I do believe that's what I've been claiming all along.
I don't like to talk, but it's a little known fact that Tom was rejected as
an early version of Smilin' Bob for the Enzyte ads.
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> Have you seen
> the various stop-motion dissections of the ads posted on YouTube?
Oh. My. God.
I've seriously been underestimating how much deep, deep psychosis this ad
has disturbed.
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> Lets stay away from any technical discussions. We don't want to talk
> about computers here. Lets just focus on the atmospherics
Except that you haven't actually talked about anything.
It's just been a bizarre collection of rantings and non-sequitors.
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> WFBs love to wallow in cheap. That's why the bad choices made in Laptop
> Hunters are so appealing to you.
The only thing appealing to me about the ads are how they drive you and rest
of the Bizarro-Scooby Gang bat-shit crazy.
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Right now I would declare it even.
They both have the same size.
GIVE IT UP GUYS!
Stewart
At 07:55 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
>I call 2-5% statistically insignificant.
WFBs love to wallow in cheap. That's why the bad choices made in Laptop
Hunters are so appealing to you.
A 2-5% gain with an o
Never going to win an argument about not saving money with a mac user,
that's for sure.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >I call 2-5% statistically insignificant.
>
> WFBs love to wallow in cheap. That's why the bad choices made in Laptop
> Hunters are so appealing to you.
>
>I call 2-5% statistically insignificant.
WFBs love to wallow in cheap. That's why the bad choices made in Laptop
Hunters are so appealing to you.
A 2-5% gain with an old chip set not set up for DDR3 does show that the
new technology has a benefit. Marry that with a new chip set made for
DDR
>Isn't this the part where we take off your mask and you blame those meddling
>kids for ruining your plan?
Lets stay away from any technical discussions. We don't want to talk
about computers here. Lets just focus on the atmospherics
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> >So, MS is not allowed to talk to the press, or what?
> >They can only answer questions and never offer
> >information? Is this new dictum also going to
> >apply to Apple and every other company in the
> >US, or is it just Microsoft?
>
> Yes, lets stay away from any technical discussions.
> W
> Old benchmarks run with old chipsets that don't take advantage of DDR3
> show speed increases of 2 to 5 percent. Not much, but not bad for $12.
> http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2989&p=8
I saw that test and avoided mentioning it because it was so old. Turns out,
not much has chan
> Old benchmarks run with old chipsets that don't take advantage of DDR3
> show speed increases of 2 to 5 percent. Not much, but not bad for $12.
> http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2989&p=8
I call 2-5% statistically insignificant.
So, you can get a new motherboard and 1 GB of RAM
> The report in Dailytech refers to a planted Microsoft story and
> acknowledges that with the phrase "Microsoft says...". Unfortunately,
> anything Microsoft says is news. The reporter knows it is bullshit, but
> nevertheless feels the need to report it. But why are you harping on
> that?
Isn't
>So, MS is not allowed to talk to the press, or what? They can only answer
>questions and never offer information? Is this new dictum also going to
>apply to Apple and every other company in the US, or is it just Microsoft?
Yes, lets stay away from any technical discussions. We don't want to talk
> The report in Dailytech refers to a planted Microsoft story and
> acknowledges that with the phrase "Microsoft says...".
So, MS is not allowed to talk to the press, or what? They can only answer
questions and never offer information? Is this new dictum also going to
apply to Apple and every othe
>The first 2 words of the article: "Microsoft says..." Funny, you'd
>expect a "planted" article to try and hide that fact a bit more than
>it did. Gosh, do you think it might be an independent article based
>soley on a MS blog?
The report in Dailytech refers to a planted Microsoft story and
ac
>Don't believe me? Let a fellow MFB explain it all for you:
>http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-654277.html
Old benchmarks run with old chipsets that don't take advantage of DDR3
show speed increases of 2 to 5 percent. Not much, but not bad for $12.
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/s
> >That 125% bit, that's not a sarcastic cheap shot, is it?
>
> Do you have any facts or insights to provide, or just more carping?
Um, isn't that what I asked you?
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>What I have to conclude from this is that some implementations of the
>USB standard are faulty and do not work the way they are supposed to.
Your evidence does not necessitate that conclusion. You did not have an
example of successfully copying multiple GBs successfully and all the
failures yo
> Four times faster memory access.
It's like a 4-lane road, desgined to handle 1,000 cars/minute, with a
speed limit 100 MPH, but has 6,000 cars per minute on it. It doesn't
matter how big the road is if it's filled with nothing but 911 Targas
driven by legally-blind little old ladies with glacia
Well all I know is that many years ago my boss would answer tech
questions this way.
We don't do Windows and we don't do Mac's. He himself was a MFB.
Stewart
At 02:21 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
mike wrote:
..all the other users are just
sitting around saying, apple who? They know who Apple i
mike wrote:
..all the other users are just
sitting around saying, apple who? They know who Apple is, it's just not on
their radar .
Is that the definition of cluelessness or ignorance?
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Kind of reminds me of he old school yard argument on whose daddy
could beat up who.
Or for the older boys who has the bigger
Stewart
At 02:04 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
Hahaha...Not real sure that MS is to blame for the fact that we're easily
entertained! :-)
This thread has been fun
> MS is planting stories that Windows has driven Linux out of the netbook
> market. According to these stories the return rate on Linux-based
> netbooks has been so huge that retailers have stopped carrying Linux in
> favor of the far superior offering from Microsoft. MS now claims a 90%
> market s
Hahaha...Not real sure that MS is to blame for the fact that we're easily
entertained! :-)
This thread has been fun to watch though. I will admit that!
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In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:01:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t...@tjpa.com
writes:
But we are more entertained by them than the
>Basically, the laptop hunter ads are not targeted to those that populate
>this list I don't believe.
But we are more entertained by them than the average joe. Have you seen
the various stop-motion dissections of the ads posted on YouTube?
I hope MS does not start issuing take down orders.
>> Read about DDR2 vs DDR3 before you spout off.
>
>A marginal performance increase, ~5%, in most applications for a
>significant price premium, ~100%-200%. IOW, very Mac-like.
Four times faster memory access.
A GB of DDR2 is about $18, DDR3 is $30. For WFBs $12 is a lot of money.
I'm waiting t
Part of it is USB and part of it is equipment.
I have four different thumb drives.
2-1 GB
1-4 GB
1-16 GB
I move stuff back and forth all the time.
I have tried to sue the 16GB drive to move large files (video etc.)
from computers but have given up. It will not take sustained writing
of larg
>That 125% bit, that's not a sarcastic cheap shot, is it?
Do you have any facts or insights to provide, or just more carping?
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I was in there a few months back. I think i opened Notepad and opened this file
UserDictionary.lex For some reason that don't work now.
I followed the Hard Drive path and found it without a problem though!
Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor!
563-872-3788
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>To imply that the average Joe knows anything more about their equipment
>than they read in some magazine somewhere is wrong.
Ignorance raised to the level of virtue.
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>Ok...who makes the camera in the Apple laptops? Who makes the sensor in the
>windows box? I'm sure you know who builds them since you know the sensor in
>the windows box is sub standard.
That entire class of sensors is substandard: Mac and PC. The problem is
with the cooing, not the sensor.
Okay, so you can tell the different advantages and costs between, say
PATA, SATA and SAS, right? You know, for example, which max-out at
7,200 RPM and which go to 15K RPM, and you know the cost differences as
well. Same with power supplies and so on, right? You can compare
configurations by comp
>Of course apple ram is so much better, they have the same switch when memory
>is made.
Read about DDR2 vs DDR3 before you spout off.
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I wasn't forgetting your vast experience. I'm just telling you that
USB does not have this problem normally. Clearly there's something
wrong somewhere. If you're being paid to fix it, I hope you've come up
with a better solution than to install 1394 in all those machines.
Actually, I see my own ch
Ok...who makes the camera in the Apple laptops? Who makes the sensor in the
windows box? I'm sure you know who builds them since you know the sensor in
the windows box is sub standard.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >After reading Tom's response, and the first email call
In truth, "most" average users have never torn down anything. They don't
tear down their TV's to tweak it's performance, they don't tear down their
IPods, or their gaming machines, or their cars. They buy something that does
what they want it to do for the price they're willing to pay. Pe
Probably right...I'm only sitting at the ninth or tenth version of my
current whitebox I built from ground up. Not to mention the one I have
behind the tv. Or the macs from years ago I took apart and put back
together..
Best Buy? Nah, I usually stick to the wholesaler downtown or Fry's
electro
>After reading Tom's response, and the first email calling the windows guy
>elitist, I'm thinking some don't know what elitist means. It's hard to be
>an elitist when you are the populist.
"G" seems to be a caricature of what MS thinks a MFBs looks like, but to me he
looked from the start like
Um..might want to read what you wrote...you brought up never showing the
product.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >Also, Tom, you may want to actually watch the I'm a mac/I'm a pc ads...I
> >don't recall OS X ever being shown at all. But I could be wrong.
>
> You need to wo
>I think again this is mac users attributing their own feelings to those they
>think they are competing with. I was listening to Adam Corolla the other
>day, he was talking about the worst thing that happens to movie stars when
>their name is mentioned is not someone saying 'oh I HATE that guy', i
Mike,
You sound like you've never torn down a Mac; maybe not even a PC, to
replace or upgrade components. You've probably never spec'ed, sourced
and built a PC either. Just another ignorant WFB. So Mac and PC both
use the same components, eh? Salesmen at Bestbuy must love
you!
Thank you,
Ma
>Also, Tom, you may want to actually watch the I'm a mac/I'm a pc ads...I
>don't recall OS X ever being shown at all. But I could be wrong.
You need to work on your vocabulary...
personification (põr-sÄn1õ-f¾-kE2shõn) n. Artistic representation of an
abstract quality or idea as a person.
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I doubt windows users give it a second thought let alone sit around steaming
about how nice a MBP is compared to a HP or Dell. I know when a friend came
over with his new MBP the first thing I thought was that it was extremely
beautiful. Can't say it was 2300 dollars more beautiful then the HP I
After reading Tom's response, and the first email calling the windows guy
elitist, I'm thinking some don't know what elitist means. It's hard to be
an elitist when you are the populist. It's interesting to watch the MFB's
sputter on for a page about how much these ads don't matter..so much they
h
Tom Piwowar wrote:
"G" says Macs are all about esthetics and proves he isn't by selecting a
really ugly computer. Like Lauren's, the computer he selects is huge, not
what most people today think of as a laptop. It is really a compact
desktop. Does not look like something a "picky" person would b
> Laptop Hunters strikes again. And misfires again.
>
> This time we meet "G." I encounter this type of person from time to time.
> Someone with a tenuous grasp on technology who thinks they know it all.
> Best to just stand back and let them waste their money. Not a sympathetic
> character either.
>At 5gbps (theoretical maximum), USB3 is 6X faster than firewire800.
>The next firewire in the works, firewire3200, is still slower than
>USB3.
You are acting just like "G."
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>This is not normal. You have a problem somewhere - one of the
>interfaces, or maybe bad cables.
You forget that I am out in the field all the time. I'm not describing
one computer. I'm describing 100s.
>Note that USB3 is FULL duplex. Yes, it operates in BOTH directions.
USB3 isn't anything. US
>Just saw another new Windows ad on TV. No Lauren. A guy this time.
> He says that Macs are all about esthetics, not computing power. He
>wants a Windows machine because he is "picky." He is an elitist.
Laptop Hunters strikes again. And misfires again.
This time we meet "G." I encounter this
This is not normal. You have a problem somewhere - one of the
interfaces, or maybe bad cables.
Note that USB3 is FULL duplex. Yes, it operates in BOTH directions.
At 5gbps (theoretical maximum), USB3 is 6X faster than firewire800.
The next firewire in the works, firewire3200, is still slower than
>USB3 claims to be 10X faster than USB2. In real world applications, that
>makes it about as fast as FW800. But is it as reliable as FW for video?
>I doubt it. What if the USB3 device isn't the only one on the bus? How
>does it compare the the new FW project?
Based on personal experience, I avo
Yes! When I saw that I was reminded of some results of a speed test I
saw a year or two ago that showed that a Mac ran Windows faster than the
Dell, HP and other Windows machines in the test.
phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Just saw another new Windows ad on TV. No Lauren. A guy this time.
He
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