[CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-26 Thread mike
suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/1867831,ihnatko-verizon-droid-iphone-110509.article Good review/comparison of the new moto droid with the usual comparisons to the iPhone. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins / mo ... use them or lose them. 1000 minutes/month. That would require that I spend around 4 per cent of my waking hours every single day yacking on the cell phone. Heck, I'm no teenager.

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
For those who do support by phone, this isn't anything. An hour a day in a ten hour workday spent on the phone is 1200 minutes a month. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
Correction, the samsung moment has an 800mhz CPU, one of the fastest on the market be it iphone, blackberry or android. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: That was all on my phone, an HTC Hero. The moto droid can do the same, all the android phones are similiar

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:38 PM, mike wrote: I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move, never admit you are wrong... Precisely my point. Asked to present facts, Mike responds with a long

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread mike
I responded, in detail. Try reading the posts. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:38 PM, mike wrote: I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, mike wrote: For those who do support by phone, this isn't anything. An hour a day in a ten hour workday spent on the phone is 1200 minutes a month. I do Mac support. Don't need that many minutes.

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread db
1000 mins/ mo. That's about 1/2 hr a day on the cell phone... db tjpa wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, db wrote: T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins /mo ... use them or lose them. 1000 minutes/month. That would require that I spend around 4 per cent of my

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
I believe that after a given period of time they are required to give you an unlock code to allow you open your phone up for any service provider that fits. (In this case GSM) you can then subscribe to a service and put in the SIM card. I think that you should be able to use any hardware

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Both the unlocking and jailbreaking are done with software? Depends on the phone. Some phones need a special SIM to unlock, others must be connected by cable to a PC with bluetooth turned off. Some phones all you need is an unlock code which is calculated using the IMEI, model number,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread John Emmerling
I decided to take a peek at Mr. Ihnatko's blog. From the home page, it's apparent that his career depends on the continued success of the iPhone. That discredits him sufficiently in my mind. Furthermore, he can't write in proper English: Ah: but my iPhone spends a lot of time in it’s car

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread Chris Dunford
Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, this makes up for any issues their might be For me, the killer feature of a cell phone is being able to make and receive phone calls. :)

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In several reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest part of the iPhone, it does most other things very well...calling not so good. On Sat,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, mike wrote: Indeed this is a given, but not always with some cell phones. In several reviews including the last moto droid one, the poor call quality of the iPhone was brought up again. This has always been the weakest part of the iPhone, it does most other

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:17 AM, mike wrote: Some people need or want different things from their cell phone. For me the killer feature is multitasking, I don't believe you. Multi-tasking makes no sense on such a tiny screen. Just try to convince us that you are going to watch a streaming

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better. I have multiple apps open all the time. Maybe you need to work on being able to do more at one time like others are already doing. On Nov 7, 2009

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread David K Watson
What kind of multitasking is it that you want to do on a small handheld that is so crucial? I don't have have an iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch, and I can surf the web or compose an email, etc. while listening to music, and you can do more than one thing at a time of this sort with the

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). They will offer you that if you are a long time

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
Make no mistake, none of it is crucial. But If I can get a phone that lets me do it, why would I not get that phone? I'm not one of those users as Tom is who assumes whatever *I* do is all that anyone ever has to do and anything else is shite. I know different people have different needs,

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:04 PM, mike wrote: Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better No. You just said something silly and I called you on it. Your failure to respond with anything factual

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:02 PM, David K Watson wrote: What kind of multitasking is it that you want to do on a small handheld that is so crucial? I don't have have an iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch, and I can surf the web or compose an email, etc. while listening to music, and you can do more

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:39 PM, mike wrote: In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with a friend in London and checking twitter

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000 mins...). That's

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread tjpa
Pogue says... Still, the Droid’s multitasking pays off in two situations: when you want to listen to Internet radio while you work in other apps, and when you’re switching between programs a lot. Since they’re already open, you don’t have to wait for them to start up again with each

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes for $49. ( I used to pay $45 for 1000

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, db wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has an unadvertised minutes plan called Loyalty that gives customers, who have been with them for a while, UNLIMITED prime time minutes

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote: I decided to take a peek at Mr. Ihnatko's blog. From the home page, it's apparent that his career depends on the continued success of the iPhone. That discredits him sufficiently in my mind. What he really liked

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
I responded in kind to your crap. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:15 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:04 PM, mike wrote: Yes of course. You know better then everyone else what they need. Oh wait that's not right, yer just an arrogant snob who thinks he knows better No. You

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
I read carefully your uninformed bullshit. You cry someone misunderstands what you say just when you know they've got it exactly, stick and move, never admit you are wrong. You tell me I'm lying and I'm the guy who needs to explain? You have no clue what you are talking about clearly, you've

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
It can take the SIM but I don't think you get every bell and whistle...perhaps not even 3g? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yeh... and you might like to know that since Feb, T-Mobile has

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I believe that after a given period of time they are required to give you an unlock code to allow you open your phone up for any service provider that fits. (In this case GSM) you can then subscribe to a service and put in the SIM card. I think that you should be able to use any hardware

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
T-Mobile does not have roll over minutes so $45 is for 1000 mins /mo ... use them or lose them. If you are not already a T-Mobile customer, I am not sure that you can get the new unlimited mins for $49 Loyalty plan ... but it wouldn't hurt to ask. It's by far the best minutes deal out there

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49??? Uh Oh! ... Just realized ... I guess as it stands now I would have to contractually pay ATT/Apple until my 2 yr. contract ran out anyway. And I would have to buy a T-Mobile data

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No you buy a used Iphone that no longer has a contract on it. I just read an article about a an Iphone/Worldphone possibly 3rd qtr 2010. Stewart At 07:59 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: REALLY??? Does that mean I could get an iPhone and find someone to unlock it and put my chip in it for $49???

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the ones that say they are new shrink wrapped in the box. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: No you buy a used Iphone

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes... I googled around and see that people are selling 3G models ... some new in the box ... and supposedly unlocked for $300-$400. How are people unlocking them? Especially the

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
What's the difference between unlocking and jailbreak? And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink wrapped? db mike wrote: There is software out there that unlocks and others that jailbreak. On Nov 7, 2009 7:57 PM, db

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
Unlocking means you can then stick a sim in the phone from another carrier and it will take it. I had an ATT tilt that they gave me the unlock code for, put my tmobile sim in and everything worked. Jailbreaking allows you to run unofficial code on the iphone and using third party app installers

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread David K Watson
That is the kind of answer I've been looking for, that I haven't seen at all anywhere else. Whatever works for you, fine. You make a good case for your phone. (Was all that on your phone, or was it at your computer and you are giving an example of what you'd like your phone to do?) However, do

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Shrink wrap does not mean much. You can buy the packaging material and rewrap an item. If it has been jailbreaked etc. it has been opened. Stewart At 09:25 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: And how could they have done that to the phones that are advertised as such but still in their boxes shrink

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread db
Both the unlocking and jailbreaking are done with software? What's a tilt? db mike wrote: Unlocking means you can then stick a sim in the phone from another carrier and it will take it. I had an ATT tilt that they gave me the unlock code for, put my tmobile sim in and everything worked.

Re: [CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko

2009-11-07 Thread mike
That was all on my phone, an HTC Hero. The moto droid can do the same, all the android phones are similiar hardware except for the moto droid having a better screen and the samsung moment having 8 gigs of built in memory. There are something on the order of 100,000 apps for iphone, I think at