well
is efficiently run insurance programs.
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The model to follow is not Canada ...it's the Netherlands !!
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don't think there is anyone smarter in the world about social and
economic
party than the Swedish Socialdemocratic Party)
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From: b s-w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:41:52 AM
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Creating
: [CGUYS] Canada
I am not sure. When you talk about rationing it sounds like
a bad thing. But in terms of dollars and cents the Canadian System
has to make sure that the tax money is well spent. In the
US the private sector has a lot of rationing by the insurance
companies
Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that
nearly everybody wants isn't socialism. It isn't welfare, since we will be
paying for it, only we will pay significantly less than with the current
for-profit system. It's smart fiscal policy when you can improve service
it is, it works. And it will. -Paul Meyer -
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Canada I am not sure. When you talk
about rationing it sounds like a bad thing
Whatever the form univeral access takes it will require the
government restructuring of health care markets.
This will be attacked as socialist (and already is) no matter what
distinctions u.a. supporters will make.
Those folks who fear creeping socialism will probably never
support u.a.
I shake my head in great wonderment when the Christian right
advocates capitalism. They completely ignore the book of Acts which
showed that early Christians practiced a form of socialism or communalism.
Stewart
At 03:53 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
Sadly, I have to agree with you , Paul. Use
The model to follow is not Canada ...it's the Netherlands !!
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From: b s-w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Canada
Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that
nearly everybody wants isn't
Exactly!!! it is all driven by the end result!! Profit and giving
top executives hefty pay checks.
Stewart
At 06:18 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
But without the opportunity to fleece the sick and the aged how will the
top executives be able to scrape up the dough to pay their $50,000,000
Yes, it is even better...
Marcio
At 09:13 PM 8/17/2007, rlsimon wrote:
The model to follow is not Canada ...it's the Netherlands !!
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From: b s-w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Canada
Creating a less expensive, probably
All health care systems, including the US ration resources on some basis.
The ironic thing about the health care debate focusing on Canada and Britain
as alternative models is that we are familiar with them because of linguistic
and cultural similarities but neither are particularly well funded
British and Canadian system are quite different. In the British the
docs are employees of the system. In Canada they are not.
Marcio
At 03:05 AM 8/15/2007, Paul Meyer wrote:
All health care systems, including the US ration resources on some
basis. The ironic thing about the health care debate
I am not sure. When you talk about rationing it sounds like
a bad thing. But in terms of dollars and cents the Canadian System
has to make sure that the tax money is well spent. In the
US the private sector has a lot of rationing by the insurance
companies. And then
Paula include Hospitals in that also. Does anyone remember the name
Scrushy? Former CEO of Healthsouth one of the bigger players in for
profit healthcare/hosptials. He is now in federal custody due to
State Bribery charges but was acquitted of fraud with his own company
for misstating
Paula, I am a psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst
and I trained and worked in the USA for thirty years.
I love this Country. I even became a citizen. But
the insurance companies do ration in a perverse
way. I even had a web page to protest against them:
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