Re: [CGUYS] trying to predict 10 worst products of 2009

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
number 1, windows7 ...the other 9, likely stuff that works with windows7 ...am I way off Before you are allowed to predict that Win7 will be so bad, you need to list all the stuff that's wrong with Vista. * ** List info,

[CGUYS] Vista Dual Booting Disaster

2008-08-11 Thread Jay Montero
I did a bad thing: I installed Linux on a new laptop running Vista. I had done this before with other versions of Windows no problem. Now Windows fails to start. It just sits at the blue screen. Repair mode does the same. Googling reveals what I should have done to create dual boot but my

Re: [CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Court blocks MIT students from showing subway hack

2008-08-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Techdirt discusses the MIT presentation ( http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080811/0035111937.shtml) complete with link to presentation in the comments. It is another example of the Streisand Effect which is where your lawyers manage to publicize exactly what you want them to block. On Sun, Aug

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't want some punk programmer telling me I have to re-engineer my business.

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox bookmarks

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
i only have 2.16 Ff doesn't find any updates. Correct. You need to download and install version 3. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox bookmarks

2008-08-11 Thread betty
i only have 2.16 Ff doesn't find any updates. FF2.x is similar to 3.x, except commands for sorting are in the View menu instead of attached to buttons. Download, http://www.mozilla.com/. For plug-ins/Add-ons, support, forums, see links at top of page. Organize bookmarks in the sidebar,

Re: [CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Court blocks MIT student

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
Techdirt discusses the MIT presentation ( http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080811/0035111937.shtml) complete with link to presentation in the comments As undergrads I think the students deserve an A. However there is nothing in their report that is not obvious. The business about open locks

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Does this sound like a good plan? Get a new fast Vista machine because that is what is out there. Load XP on a virtual machine running under Vista to handle legacy software. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't want some punk programmer telling me I have to re-engineer my business. Again, an overstatement (the original, not

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Does this sound like a good plan? Get a new fast Vista machine because that is what is out there. Load XP on a virtual machine running under Vista to handle legacy software. Most users won't need to. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox bookmarks

2008-08-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
FF2 is at the end of the road. FF3 Isn't an update to FF2 it is the next step. Works fine and most of my favorite plugins are working fine. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Judy Cosler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I can do that. wonder why Ff shows no updates?? Tom Piwowar wrote: i

[CGUYS] Registry Error

2008-08-11 Thread Richard P.
My relative's Windows PC has come up this morning with a registry error (Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM) and the computer is recommending repair. Is there a way to save the system, data, and programs or are we beyond

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox bookmarks

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
FF2 is at the end of the road. FF3 Isn't an update to FF2 it is the next step. Works fine and most of my favorite plugins are working fine. Now, if FF3 were Vista, that would be phrased differently: FF3 is not so bad unless you want to run legacy plug-ins.

Re: [CGUYS] Vista Dual Booting Disaster

2008-08-11 Thread Brian Jones
I remember that most Windows install CD's include a way to repair the master boot record (MBR) and point it to the boot sector of your partition. I have not tried it, but this web page seems to have your solution:

Re: [CGUYS] Vista Dual Booting Disaster

2008-08-11 Thread Brian Jones
Jay, If you want to look for it, there is a Microsoft Knowledge Base article describing the correct order to install various Windows operating systems with other operating systems. Some combinations are incompatible, and the article will show this in a table. - Brian - Original

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Larry Sacks
Wow. I think your experience, while nice to hear, is dependent on the person (people) you talk with. About 6 months ago, I took my dad's Mac Mini (it was bought about 3 months after Apple first introduced them) into an Apple store to diagnose what was wrong with the built-in wireless on it.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Fred Holmes
Can that virtual folder be readily backed up? I.e., is the location of the virtual folder obvious? Or does vista provide a new backup program that can be readily used to back them up? Fred Holmes At 09:54 AM 8/11/2008, Chris Dunford wrote: For the most part, the ones that have problems are

Re: [CGUYS] Vista Dual Booting Disaster

2008-08-11 Thread Fred Holmes
I think I'd get a third party boot manager that has been written / updated since Vista came out and knows how to handle this situation straightforwardly. At 08:25 AM 8/11/2008, Jay Montero wrote: I did a bad thing: I installed Linux on a new laptop running Vista. I had done this before with

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread mike
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Steve Rigby
On Aug 11, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Larry Sacks wrote: In this case, most of the customer service was staffed with people in red shirts who knew even less than the people forced to read a script of choices. The above situation does not equate in any way, shape or form to what I experienced.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread David K Watson
If Tom were to use virtualization, he'd be better off doing it on a Mac or Linux machine, because virtualization is notoriously buggy and runs with too much overhead on Vista. However, if he is running the legacy software as one of his primary applications, he would be adding a layer of

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Can that virtual folder be readily backed up? I.e., is the location of the virtual folder obvious? Or does vista provide a new backup program that can be readily used to back them up? E.g., you can't write to Program Files any more, but a lot of old programs try to. For those, Vista puts

Re: [CGUYS] Vista's Security Rendered Completely Useless by New Exploit

2008-08-11 Thread mike
I read the same article on another site, something of note, one of the security guys they talk to is Dino Zovi, the guy who took the macbook at last years pwn to own contest in minutes commenting he went after the mac 'cause it was the easiest of the three'. At this years contest the mac again

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Larry Sacks
Everyone can and does have their own experiences. This was in Apple's Burlingame store. Most of the stores in Silicon Valley seemed to be deluged with customers so it's quite possible that Apple's hiring standards might not be as strict. Can you walk with your eyes closed? Y/In something

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 12:46 PM 8/11/2008, David K Watson wrote: http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1132588.html California state computers can't handle pay cut, controller says, It turns out that the California payroll system is a legacy COBOL system being held together with spit and baling wire. The article is

[CGUYS] AntivirXP08

2008-08-11 Thread Frank Sestir
My brother in law did a video update from CNN this morning and ended up with AntivirXP08 problems. Does anyone have a simple cure? Is this really where the problem came from? Any help in ridding this from his computer (short of reinstalling WinXP, etc) would be appreciated. TIA Frank

Re: [CGUYS] AntivirXP08

2008-08-11 Thread John DeCarlo
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Frank Sestir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother in law did a video update from CNN this morning and ended up with AntivirXP08 problems. Does anyone have a simple cure? Is this really where the problem came from? Any help in ridding this from his computer

Re: [CGUYS] AntivirXP08

2008-08-11 Thread Brian Jones
This might work: (from http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-removal/antivirxp08-anti-vir-xp-08-removal-instructions ) Unregister AntiVirXP08 DLL Files: %ProgramFiles%\[RANDOM NAME]\MFC71.dll %ProgramFiles%\[RANDOM NAME]\MFC71ENU.DLL %ProgramFiles%\[RANDOM NAME]\msvcp71.dll %ProgramFiles%\[RANDOM

Re: [CGUYS] Firefox bookmarks

2008-08-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: FF2 was the WIN ME of firefox. I think Vista is nearly ripe enough to use. FF2 is at the end of the road. FF3 Isn't an update to FF2 it is the next step. Works fine and most of my favorite plugins are working fine.

Re: [CGUYS] AntivirXP08

2008-08-11 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro
I got one the other day, perfect, CNN saying that the US Government as going to subsidize citizens house payments. I did not resist... it said that my activex was not going to play that and there was one to download... I did... No CNN. The next day I did again and that AVG catch the malware.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? Look at my email headers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? Look at my email headers. I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Vista's Security Rendered Completely Useless by New

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
For those who may be interested, I don't know enough about security to judge the objectivity of this: One of the black hats is from IBM and the other from VMWare so these are not basement hackers. I think this vulnerability fits the Microsoft MO: a huge security structure built on an insecure

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
In this case, most of the customer service was staffed with people in red shirts who knew even less than the people forced to read a script of choices. I think they could sense that you were not one of the faithful -- as a rule, non-believers don't get the same help.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? Why would I want to do that? I'm not running a museum here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
This solution to my quandry clearly cost Apple a fair amount of money, but they obviously wanted to keep a long time customer happy and figured that an investment in that would be worth it to them. About 10 years ago we installed a Moen kitchen faucet. They promise a lifetime warrenty.

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread mike
I think they changed that rule, hence apple's increasing market share...they finally realized in all their glitter and ego that if they want NEW customers they can't treat them like crap. Mike On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this case, most of the

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread mike
Just a cupboard with some old figurines. I can't think of any apps that I miss so much I'd run in an emu just to keep active after ten years of being out of circulation on mac or windows. BTW, no offense here if Gwen is being held captive by tiny trolls but...what happened to her? She seemed

[CGUYS] VMs (was please help with VISTA)

2008-08-11 Thread David K Watson
Really? What software do you use? What kind of host system (RAM in particular)? From:mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been running various VM's on xp and vistanary a bug. Overhead? I don't have a screamin machine but it seems plenty fast enough. Mike On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Larry Sacks
Now, now Tommy, you seem to forget that I'm a Mac user too. I think they (the not-so-real-Geniuses in their clean red tops) might have gotten used to having Glitterati (and Glitterati wanna-be's) happily absorb whatever drivel is spewed out. I prefer to see it more as a test to show one's

Re: [CGUYS] VMs (was please help with VISTA)

2008-08-11 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, David K Watson wrote: Really? What software do you use? What kind of host system (RAM in particular)? From:mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been running various VM's on xp and vistanary a bug. Overhead? I don't have a screamin machine but it seems plenty fast enough.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? Why would I want to do that? I'm not running a museum here. So, Vista is useless because I have to run legacy software. OS X is fine because I'm not running a museum. OK, that makes sense.

[CGUYS] CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-11 Thread mhartwx
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Re: [CGUYS] My Macintosh saga

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
Now, now Tommy, you seem to forget that I'm a Mac user too. I said *faithful* You and Bill Gates make the mistake of thinking salvation can be purchased. No soup for you! * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
OK, that makes sense. Thank you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
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