Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, mike wrote: What is a real gps? I am assuming you mean the iPhone doesn't have one? The iPod uses triangulation based on cell phone towers with known locations. I think this depends on getting a signal from at least 3 towers. This is better in urban areas

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:43 PM, betty wrote: ... sucky browser like Saferi Is it Safari on the iPhone you despise, or Safari in general? Safari is quite a good browser, at least on the desktop. I use FireFox, Safari, and Opera throughout the day. Each has strong and weak points, but the

Re: [CGUYS] changing the rules of Web addresses

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 27, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: According to the Daily Mail, the ICANN board will pass a resolution this Friday that will allow entire Web addresses to be written in non-Latin alphabets. There were several false starts on this that created huge security holes. The

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
What does droid have to do with ipod touches? On Oct 28, 2009 6:29 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, mike wrote: What is a real gps? I am assuming you mean the iPhone ... The iPod uses triangulation based on cell phone towers with known locations. I think this depends

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
BTW, how does the touch do this with no cellular antenna? Think it WiFi to get your location. On Oct 28, 2009 6:29 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, mike wrote: What is a real gps? I am assuming you mean the iPhone ... The iPod uses triangulation based on cell phone

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK first off you are an ignorant philistine. Secondly you think (I should be careful with that concept) that because a landline phone company had coverage in this area that they had a good cell coverage at the same time. Actually they did not have good coverage down here for landline. This

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:55 AM, mike wrote: What does droid have to do with ipod touches? Mike is dazed and confused (again). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness,

Re: [CGUYS] changing the rules of Web addresses

2009-10-28 Thread Stephen Brownfield
This was the kind of issue that I was really wondering about when I made the initial post on this. tjpa wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: According to the Daily Mail, the ICANN board will pass a resolution this Friday that will allow entire Web addresses to be

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, mike wrote: What is a real gps? I am assuming you mean the iPhone doesn't have one? The iPod uses triangulation based on cell phone towers with known locations. I think this depends on getting a signal

Re: [CGUYS] Proper permissions for OS X slave drive?

2009-10-28 Thread Stephen Brownfield
tjpa wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:57 PM, db wrote: I recently bought I new primary sata drive for a MacPro and loaded Leopard on it while keeping the 2ndary internal sata drive ... which included data ... intact. Now under leopard, under permissions, it still sees an unknown account which is

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Oh by the way what does Apple have to do with this. They signed the agreement with ATT to sell their product and if they did not do their due diligence to make sure the network would handle their product they bear some

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
Tom was talking old touch, not iphones. On Oct 28, 2009 8:09 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, mike w... This might be a change on the newer models but Apple now uses the GPS satellites.

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
Maybe, I just have to stop expecting you to keep a thread straight. Or to make sense in general. On Oct 28, 2009 8:09 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:55 AM, mike wrote: What does droid have to do with ipod touches? Mike is dazed and confused (again).

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK so you are saying Jobs is just like everyone else out to get our money? I thought Apple was the home of altruism? Verizon also did not want to be stuck with the problems. From what I understood Apple wanted everything but was willing to give nothing. Verizon said we wont play that game.

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Stewart Marshall
Tom you will get a kick out of this one. http://earthlink.com.com/8301-17852_3-10384706-71.html?part=earthlink Stewart At 10:02 AM 10/28/2009, you wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:55 AM, mike wrote: What does droid have to do with ipod touches? Mike is dazed and confused (again).

[CGUYS] Stress Test

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Y
I have a Dell laptop E6400 that has been giving a client trouble. Due to a few thermal trips I had to replace the motherboard and cpu. I want to deploy this to the client asap but I want to stress the board and cpu as much as possible to test the fix out. What procedure or software would the

Re: [CGUYS] Stress Test

2009-10-28 Thread Tony B
I'd run Prime95. http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Ed Y inbox1...@verizon.net wrote: I have a Dell laptop E6400 that has been giving a client trouble. Due to a few thermal trips I had to replace the motherboard and cpu. I want to deploy

Re: [CGUYS] Stress Test

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Ed Y wrote: What procedure or software would the group recommend to do this? I would like to keep additional cost as low as possible. Heat lamp. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:17 AM, mike wrote: Maybe, I just have to stop expecting you to keep a thread straight. Or to make sense in general. Just quit banging your head on the table. Maybe if you owned a Mac? * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: http://earthlink.com.com/8301-17852_3-10384706-71.html?part=earthlink Funny. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK so you are saying Jobs is just like everyone else out to get our money? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8A5GmrrwG0 * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
I do...and three ipods. On Oct 28, 2009 10:42 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:17 AM, mike wrote: Maybe, I just have to stop expecting you to keep a th... Just quit banging your head on the table. Maybe if you owned a Mac?

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Verizon also did not want to be stuck with the problems. From what I understood Apple wanted everything but was willing to give nothing. Verizon said we wont play that game. So Apple approached ATT and ATT jumped at the deal because

Re: [CGUYS] Proper permissions for OS X slave drive?

2009-10-28 Thread db
Thanks for that info... but I really want to correct the ownership and permissions for the drive before I go forward ... not just have them ignored for the moment. My intuition is that incorrect ownerships and perms on that 2ndary drive will come back to bite again in some way some time if I

Re: [CGUYS] Stress Test

2009-10-28 Thread Tony B
Is this just clever humor or would you really use a heat lamp to stress test a laptop? How? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Ed Y wrote: What procedure or software would the group recommend to do this?   I would like to keep additional

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Finally stop with the backwoods droid crap. You want the gummnt to buy you a femtocell? I think not. This is a choice you made. Its like the client who moved to the boonies to get low rent and then bellyaches that I charge them for

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Stewart Marshall
The love of money is the root of all evil. Stewart At 12:47 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK so you are saying Jobs is just like everyone else out to get our money? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8A5GmrrwG0

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Stewart Marshall
It is an it isn't. I chose the profession the profession has led me to these places. So it is not just a single choice. One big difference I don't get to call the financial shots. Again the profession wins out. Stewart At 12:56 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: You want the gummnt to buy you a

Re: [CGUYS] Proper permissions for OS X slave drive?

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 1:46 PM, db wrote: Thanks for that info... but I really want to correct the ownership and permissions for the drive before I go forward ... not just have them ignored for the moment. What I told you is correct. If you copy such files to someplace where these settings

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: It is an it isn't. I chose the profession the profession has led me to these places. Maybe a Wall Street investment bank is need of a chaplain? * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: The love of money is the root of all evil. A root not the root. Evil has many other roots, like religion for instance. How many infidels have we killed today? * **

Re: [CGUYS] Proper permissions for OS X slave drive?

2009-10-28 Thread db
Yes, I know that but I need the files to be on the 2ndary drive (that's why it is there!) and it still leaves me with a 2ndary that has the wrong permissions and ownership. I'm trying to fix the problem and not just the present symptoms. It's not complicated to do once I know what they

[CGUYS] High Speed internet providers

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Y
I have a family member that is moving to Suffolk, VA and needs to get a high speed internet connection for work purposes. Whenever I relocated high speed internet was a criteria I had to have before I even considered moving into an area. Unfortunately he did not. So if anyone out there knows

Re: [CGUYS] Stress Test

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Y
Thanks Tony B for your suggestion. I am running it now. If anyone else has a suggestion it is more than welcome. I'd run Prime95. http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103 * ** List info, subscription

[CGUYS] Beware: Mozy backup is deleting /tmp file...

2009-10-28 Thread db
on OS X Tiger systems which stops your printing and gives fits to programs like Photoshop etc. db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Tom was talking old touch, not iphones. No the question Tom answered was- What is a real gps? I am assuming you mean the iPhone doesn't have one? Why is the name cheese would anyone associate a wifi only device with GPS using

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: It is an it isn't. I chose the profession the profession has led me to these places. Maybe a Wall Street investment bank is need of a chaplain? I'd recommend an exorcist

Re: [CGUYS] Proper permissions for OS X slave drive?

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 3:27 PM, db wrote: Yes, I know that but I need the files to be on the 2ndary drive (that's why it is there!) and it still leaves me with a 2ndary that has the wrong permissions and ownership. I'm trying to fix the problem and not just the present symptoms. The

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
First off different translations. I will consult the originals. Usually the words all have a definite article (the) which English does not include so depending on the translators they either include or delete the article. Our church is a Church of the Gospel not law so we do not go after

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Or a good delousing. Stewart At 03:55 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: It is an it isn't. I chose the profession the profession has led me to these places. Maybe a Wall Street

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall trying to drag this back to 'puters - sort of Verizon also did not want to be stuck with the problems. From what I understood Apple wanted everything but was willing to give nothing. Verizon said we wont play that game. I'm not so sure that it wasn't more that Verizon

[CGUYS] Another take on Windows 7

2009-10-28 Thread MrMike6by9
I was happy to hear these guys expound on the whole Windows 7 thing from the perspective of people who use Macs while doing their paying jobs. MacBreak Weekly #164: Pinch, Pull, And Tug - running time about 1 hr. 26 min. - http://twit.tv/mbw164 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Alex Lindsay, Andy Ihnatko

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread tjpa
On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: How much worse was ATT's network that Verizon's at the iPhone intro? As I understand it, the iPhone eats data service like candy. Precisely. Bandwidth-guzzling iPhone called Hummer of cellphones

[CGUYS] Interesting Article

2009-10-28 Thread Mark A. Metz
Virtual ants designed to protect from other virtual invertebrates: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33509921/ns/technology_and_science-security/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread mike
It does, it would have tested the capacity of any network, but verizon's 3g covers a much larger swathe then and now compared to ATT. There have been articles out about with the new smartphones coming out, phones less painful to browse the web, that all the networks are going to be pushed. On

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Precisely and Verizon is still building theirs out in anticipation of that event (notice not as a result of that) Verizon is really pushing their smart phones and now only charges 29.95 a month for an unlimited (well 5gb) data plan. Stewart At 08:06 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: It does, it

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread betty
Wow Stewart, you almost achieved superstardom with your OK first off you are an ignorant philistine. Great! Not so good here. Apple wanted worldwide sales for the iPhone. Verizon doesn't do GSM, but Apple wanted them to do that to get the iPhone. Verizon doesn't get the iPhone without GSM. I

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Verizon is selling some multi band phones for that purpose. I did and I plan on it. I am dumping my PDA and will end up with a Netbook. Much more useful. Stewart At 08:18 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: Wow Stewart, you almost achieved superstardom with your OK first off you are an ignorant

Re: [CGUYS] Please Help! Scores (maybe hundreds) of emails have disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox

2009-10-28 Thread Elaine Zablocki
I'm using Eudora, and one reason I'm using Eudora is that each email folder has its own file on my hard drive. I back up that drive every few days to an external drive. If there's a failure, at most I lose a few days' email. At 10:31 AM 10/18/2009, tjpa wrote: Sorry that we are not more

Re: [CGUYS] Please Help! Scores (maybe hundreds) of emails have disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox

2009-10-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Score another one for Eudora. Stewart At 10:04 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: I'm using Eudora, and one reason I'm using Eudora is that each email folder has its own file on my hard drive. I back up that drive every few days to an external drive. If there's a failure, at most I lose a few

Re: [CGUYS] Please Help! Scores (maybe hundreds) of emails have disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox

2009-10-28 Thread mike
Thunderbird does this too I believe On Oct 28, 2009 7:22 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Score another one for Eudora. Stewart At 10:04 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: I'm using Eudora, and one reason I'm using Eudora is that ...