Re: [CGUYS] Backup
My wife has made it clear to me I will pay dearly for the rest of my short life if our digital photos are lost. Therefore I have them backed up on my system, backed up to the white box I built to play movies on our tv and I've also uploaded all of them to a friend's RAID 5 NAS at his home via VPN. If all this fails due to some catastrophe I'm sure even with all of my planning I'll still deserve my painful death. Mike On 5/8/07, D Freye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We had a good backup system at Kraft. Anything you want to keep goes on the U drive. The U drive sets on a server that gets daliy backups and most likely is running raid 5 or some other raid system. Dale Be at Peace. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Why not build back up function into the computer?? (was back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?)
Because it's way too much trouble. And in the Real World, it just wouldn't work. People that want to back up, will. I see clients all the time that are only interested in saving their digital photos. They learn how to burn DVDs and they're done. They use webmail so they have little if anything else to actually back up. Use Google Docs (or similar) and you too won't even have to back up your important documents. why isn't backing up - the hardware and the software - a built in function of the computer itself? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Why not build back up function into the computer?? (was back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?)
Tony, Sounds good, but I'd have to first learn what you are talking about and how to do it :) After reading your response and Mike's this thought occurred to me: Everyone who seems to know much about computers seems to advise that everyone regularly back up their computer. The same for running antivirus, spyware, adware and whatever else I'm leaving out or not aware of. Yet I believe I've heard the stat that only a fairly small minority of users (not speaking of businesses) actually back up regularly, not to mention doing the other important security things (spyware, etc.) The figure 20% of users doing regular back ups comes to mind, though not sure where I heard this or how accurate it is. Nevertheless, if regular backing up is something that everyone who owns and uses a computer should be doing, regardless of their technical expertise, why isn't backing up - the hardware and the software - a built in function of the computer itself? Or are there some computers that actually do this? I envision a modular set up with a back up drive that could easily be removed, which could also maybe make extra copies for separate storage at the same time onto DVDS, CDS. I also envision the back up function running automatically as a default (or as automatically as possible, say, every day at least) and that before each back up, built in anti-virus software, spyware, adware, whatever-else ware software would be run on the info to be backed up, so a clean backup would be likely. Maybe even some diagnostic exam to see if one is about to back up corrupted or damaged files, etc. If backing up or checking for spyware are important if not essential functions that should be performed regularly, they should be built in as part of the computer to the extent feasible, IMO. Is this asking too much or somehow unrealistic? It just seems to me that if something should be done as a regular part of using a computer, why not build it in and make it as easy and as automatic to use as possible, for all levels of users? So if someone wants, take my idea and go make millions on it; just remember me and send me a small royalty if you don't mind! I realize most PC makers don't usually also develop software for their computers, but maybe Apple could do this or maybe more PC makers could and should start producing an integrated, whole product. Could the fact that Apple develops both its software and its hardware be part of why it is generally considered a better product? Knowing little about the technical aspects of any of this, it intuitively seems like it designing an integrated product - hardware and software (including my back up module :)) - would more likely avoid glitches and produce a better product. Just wondering. I wonder if companies like Apple, Microsoft or PC developers ever hire novices or average users to give them feedback on what is needed or desirable in their products or if they basically only get the perspective and feedback of techies, programmers, and experienced users? From my perspective, computers and everything about them (still) seem unnecessarily complex and complicated, though admittedly this is based just on PCs. I do realize it is the American way to have endless choices and options for each of these things - ways of backing up, spyware, anti-virus, firewalls, adware, ISPS, email program, this program, that program, etc. However, for myself, and I suspect many, maybe most, average or novice users, all these choices simply add too much complexity, too many decisions, too many things to think about as far as whether they work with each other program or each piece of hardware, leading to the requirement of spending too much time and energy (mental and otherwise). Perhaps those who are much more knowledgeable about all of this like having so many options, but I think many users, myself included, would simply like a computer that works reliably, with as much of this stuff being pre-packaged and automated as possible. We would like it to be more like buying a new car, where what you need and want, as much as possible, comes with the car, not programs or hardware that you have to make decisions about and purchase subsequent to purchasing the car. The goal should be an integrated product and simplicity, not unnecessary fragmentation and thus unnecessary complexity. I also realize such complexity does create jobs for some who like and have mastered much of it, but I'm speaking as a simple user who wants to spend more time using the computer as a tool or a means than time, energy and money making sure this tool is working properly. Of course all tools need to maintained, but the maintenance shouldn't equal or exceed the utility of the tool in the first place! And, of course, we could say much the same thing for all the other ever-changing technological gadgets and gizmos that are out there and which are being constantly develope
Re: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up?
Mike, Sounds like a fairly easy way to do regular backups, though couldn't afford it at the moment. I'm stuck copying onto DVDS, which I tried, but didn't go so easily. Had more to back up than on DVD's worth and was hoping it would be like I remember copying onto floppys, where the copy would be continued onto the next floppy after being prompted. But unless I missed some option for this using XP backup utility, couldn't do this, so couldn't do the option of backing up all info on computer. Ended up doing a selective backup several times to whittle it down to what could fit on one DVD, then did some more on another. Certainly didn't seem like something that I would likely go through on a very regular basis! Guess I'll just muddle through with trying to remember to regularly back up especially important documents. Randall - Original Message - From: "Michel Lowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up? Randall, I bought a Western Digital external (USB) hard drive, 250Gig. Newegg lists a Maxtor 500Gig external drive for $150. My WD came with an automatic backup utility that makes it bootable and even includes a scheduler. The timer pops every week on Wednesdays and I get a full backup during lunch. No muss, no fuss -- especially futzing around with media. The downside is like you say: if you have anything undesirable on your PC it will get backed up, too. Probably a good idea to clean the PC somewhat, do a full virus scan, run some of the spyware/malware checkers before your first backup. Good luck, -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] back up question: what to back up and what doesn't need backing up? Have only done very sporadic and partial data back ups in past, but after hearing yesterday's CG's show (mention of cost of data recovery!) and seeming increasing problems with computer's performance, decided it's high time (past time) to start backing up all those precious files regularly. However, not sure which of the options in the back up utility that came with computer to use. Tempted to use option to back everything on computer up for comprehensiveness and simplicity, but wonder if this might mean backing up some bad and nasty things which might harm the back up disk (plan to burn onto rewritable DVD, as don't have any other good back up options that I'm aware of). I definitely want to back up email as well, unless I can export it all to some other secure venue. There is an option to customize back up in order to select what to back up. I could do that if I knew I was going to back up everything important and it also might be nice not to back up a lot of unnecessary, space consuming files. Any suggestions? Should I just use the back up everything option? Thanks, Randall * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
All of this shows the fallacy of, I think, software-commanded power off. Most people think that in order to turn something off, you have to throw a switch. If no switch was thrown, it can't possibly be "turned off". I seem to recall from the "dark ages" some Macs that had no power switch at all. Software power-off. Some three-fingered salute was used to power it up. The only way to truly power it off was to unplug it. Fred Holmes At 09:06 PM 5/8/2007, Stephen Brownfield wrote: >This reminds me of when I set up my mom (who was in her mid 80s at the time) >with a new eMac. I gave her a user account (I kept administrator privileges >for myself) and told her that she couldn't break it. Within a week she >called me to say "I killed it!" All she did was shut it down. I explained to >her where the power button was and she had it up and running in no time. > >Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
This reminds me of when I set up my mom (who was in her mid 80s at the time) with a new eMac. I gave her a user account (I kept administrator privileges for myself) and told her that she couldn't break it. Within a week she called me to say "I killed it!" All she did was shut it down. I explained to her where the power button was and she had it up and running in no time. That's odd, is this common? I gave my Mom (79) a new E6600 PC (my build) last Christmas. I also kept admin privileges. She called me and said it didn't work anymore. I asked if the power light was lit on the computer. Yes, she verified that. Then I asked if the power light was lit on the monitor. What had happened was that my brother had switched the monitor off. I explained where the monitor power switch (a black switch on a black fascia, not obvious, VP930b) was located. No problems after that, except that my brother pulled out the old Gateway that I had networked to the E6600 to act as a printer and removable drive server. Why he did that I'll never know, I had to kill him. Now I'll have to do a road trip to get the printer up and running. :-) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
>I would have said that the same was true in the other direction - everything >is digital, after all. Not entirely true. Converting to digital can add distortion if the signal level are too high and the A-D conversion starts to clip. There are also signal adjustments that are part of the process, like equalization. You can also have audio compression. First thing to do is to be more precise in describing the problem. "Lower audio quality" does not mean anything. It is just an expression of general unhappiness. Exactly how is it of "lower audio quality?" * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
>You need to reread the facts. >http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/04/25/qthack/index.php 1) This was not a hack of the Mac OS. This was a hack of QuickTime. The same method of attack works on both Macs and PCs, thus demonstrating further that this is not a hack of the Mac OS. It is a hack of QuickTime. 2) That is what making the contest simpler means. Nobody was able to hack the Mac OS. They changed the rules to allow a hack of an application runing on the Mac. There are probably other applications that can be hacked too. 3) This was a demonstration of a problem. No malware took advantage of the defect and the defect has already been corrected. That is a very different situation from an operating system that has many malware exploits in the wild. Sloppy thinking or reality distortion? I don't know which. I do know that I prefer accuracy. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
This reminds me of when I set up my mom (who was in her mid 80s at the time) with a new eMac. I gave her a user account (I kept administrator privileges for myself) and told her that she couldn't break it. Within a week she called me to say "I killed it!" All she did was shut it down. I explained to her where the power button was and she had it up and running in no time. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a call today from a sometime client. A Mac user, fwiw. She couldn't get her computer to turn on, having had to "force quit" something yesterday. Since I couldn't understand her explanation of her difficulty, I arranged to go over and take a look at the machine. Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a "shut down" instead of a "force quit" yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the "on" switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the "on" switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine "on"? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] CD-MP3 issue
I want to thank everyone for your suggestions, and I'd like to respond to some of them. I was able to copy the book into a folder on the hard drive and then use Roxio to create an audio CD with the first two chapters, and play them in my car's CD player. I can see that it'll take many CDs for the entire book. So I thought I'd use a CD-RW and copy a few chapters to a CD and after listening to them, erase the contents and write a few more chapters to the CD-RW. Looking in my car's operating manual, it says that the CD player won't play CD-RWs. Bummer. I haven't yet tried doing the same thing using iTunes, but it looks like it'll do the same thing. My 2004 Accord doesn't have an audio jack, so I won't be able to use a portable CD player that way (although I do have one of those cassette tape converters that plugs into the audio-out of a CD player, so I can actually play it through the cassette player). The reason I don't use an iPod is that I download audiobooks through the Montgomery County Public library, which subscribes to the Netlibrary.org system, and all audiobooks are in secured licensed WMA format, which Apple does not support. Now, the bottom line, which really surprised me. Although I was unable to sync the book's files in the "normal" way using Microsoft's Media Player 10.0, I was able to start playing the book (from my hard drive), and while playing through Media Player, I was able to sync it (drag the files) from the Now Playing screen, whereas previously I was unable to do it from the Library screen or Ripping screen. No explanation. It just didn't work from the Library or Ripping screen and did work from the Now Playing screen. Thanks again to everyone. Stu ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
Remember - "A job worth doing is worth getting paid for." On May 8, 2007, at 11:42 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 8, 2007 10:11:04 AM PDT Subject: Re: What should one charge? Thanks very much for the comments, everyone! What a thoughtful group! In "real" life, when not turning on computers, I repair/replace chair seats for customers. (Hence the e-mail name.) It took me many years, probably about 10 years in fact, to realize that I was giving away repairs which customers therefore did not appreciate. Once I started charging for repairs (broken wood frames, tightening rungs to keep the chairs from falling apart when used, etc.) these services became valuable. Some folks did their own repairs, which is/was a blessing as it means I can concentrate on what I enjoy, and others have me do their dirty work for them. But at least I get compensated now for the time it all takes. I take a similar approach to showing folks how to turn on their computers. & It actually took me a few minutes to find the "on" switch on the eMac. It's pretty inconspicuous. The thing that threw me about my client, though, was that she really didn't realize that there was an "on" switch. The computer was just always turned on. Next time, though, I'll have to use E Riley Casey's pricing scheme. It certainly would have been more beneficial than my charge. :) Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donald G. from Joshua Tree. We like it here. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? Assuming your source is a 44.1 kHz sampling frequency "Red Book" CD and you were ripping to WAV format it should be an exact image in terms of the digital data. You haven't introduced any D/A or A/D conversions at this point. All you are doing is copying data. It would help if I knew what the recording equipment was, what the sampling frequency was, and what your listener is using as far as equipment. I warn you in advance that I'm not an expert but I have done a fair amount of this sort of thing. I'm not familiar with Exact Audio but I have used Nero. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
The only thing I would think of is using a low bit rate, but that applies only to MP3's I would think. Stewart At 07:32 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: It shouldn't. How does the cd sound to you? Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
> I don't know if Vista has been checked, but a new XP SP 2 computer, > connected directly to the Internet (no router, say a DSL modem or cable > modem - as most ISPs want you to do, even now), will be hacked in a matter > of minutes (usually around 10-20 minutes). > > A new, out-of-the-box Mac OS X computer in the same situation will not get > hacked. I hate to point this out, but you're assuming that the one Windows Firewall isn't turned on, if it is, it's harder to "own" an XP computer. I don't know what the default is nowadays for XP installations, haven't done one in over 3 years, but I remember being annoyed by the new firewall which wouldn't warn you if there was a trojan on your system but would likely prevent someone taking over your computer via the internet. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
On 5/8/07, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Listener says that copy has lower audio quality than the original, so he will have to hire a professional to do the same. Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? AFAIK, you can't lose any quality when ripping to a WAV - it has the same exact digital encoding that was on the CD. I would have said that the same was true in the other direction - everything is digital, after all. I don't see how the quality could change - even with a cheaper disk or cheaper reader, you are still just reading the exact same bits. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
It shouldn't. How does the cd sound to you? Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
No, for a vulnerability that had yet to be exploited. As soon as it was revealed, it was patched. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:53 PM, mike wrote: So Apple released a security patch for...a vulnerability that doesn't exist...got it. Now it all makes sense. Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
Generally they are current within weeks. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:44 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
You aren't trying to assume or infer that some here might be prejudiced? Come on now. why interject a bit of truth or realism here as there are some who will not stand for it.(at least for long...) If the world were as some would like, there would not be any consultants out there driving around in their hummers.. Just try to imagine a world without MS windows and everyone had a Mac running the apple OS. Then there would be the Apple haters. Some might be jealous that Steve Jobs and co. did not really market properly the original MAC instead of holding it so closed. PS: Andrew Flueglman had a Mac in my basement 3 months before it was introduced. I wanted one at the time. It was neat... Rich At 07:19 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: Date:Tue, 8 May 2007 16:03:03 -0700 From:mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-438CF46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This contest proved that a mac could be hacked easily...as soon as there was some motive to do so which was money. This has been the contention of many that the reasons macs aren't targeted is not because they are more secure but because there is no point, no money in it. If your job is to get as many machines on a botnet as possible why would you target such a minuscule audience? If you are interested in making money from spam, again why target an audience where there are nothing but empty seats in the theater? In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
So Apple released a security patch for...a vulnerability that doesn't exist...got it. Now it all makes sense. Mike On 5/8/07, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/8/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I admit it...you are right. Macworld lied...computerworld...dozens of > news > organizations lied. MS paid big for this one. I take it all back. > MacWorld didn't lie. Nowhere in the article did it say there was any vulnerability in Mac OS X. Because no one found one. If there is a vulnerability in PHP, then anyone running PHP with their web server is vulnerable - Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. Same for QuickTime. And this probably will show those interested in going after Macs that apparently the only approach is to look for this kind of thing. And it is definitely potentially dangerous - or at least it was for a few days. Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
On 5/8/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I admit it...you are right. Macworld lied...computerworld...dozens of news organizations lied. MS paid big for this one. I take it all back. MacWorld didn't lie. Nowhere in the article did it say there was any vulnerability in Mac OS X. Because no one found one. If there is a vulnerability in PHP, then anyone running PHP with their web server is vulnerable - Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. Same for QuickTime. And this probably will show those interested in going after Macs that apparently the only approach is to look for this kind of thing. And it is definitely potentially dangerous - or at least it was for a few days. Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Loss of quality in ripping CDs?
This might not be the best newsgroup to answer this question, but here goes. I was asked to make a compilation of selected music from several CDs for a single new CD. (These were locally recorded, not copyrighted, and a single "master" CD was made of each performance.) So I used Exact Audio Copy, http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/, a program that professes to eliminate all sources of errors if possible in ripping a CD (with multiple error checks, including reading each audio sector on the CD at least twice and up to 50 times) and then converts to a WAV file stored on hard disk. From the WAV file I burn the compilation to a new CD with Nero. Listener says that copy has lower audio quality than the original, so he will have to hire a professional to do the same. Question: is it possible to lose quality when ripping and re-recording as I've described? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
On 5/8/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This contest proved that a mac could be hacked easily...as soon as there was some motive to do so which was money. No, it didn't. It did prove (which didn't need to be proven), that there are cross-operating system vulnerabilities. One of them is the widespread use of QuickTime. It also proved that in spite of offering money to hack OS X, no one could do it. Actually, most Windows exploits are not because of things like QuickTime or PDF vulnerabilities. I don't know if Vista has been checked, but a new XP SP 2 computer, connected directly to the Internet (no router, say a DSL modem or cable modem - as most ISPs want you to do, even now), will be hacked in a matter of minutes (usually around 10-20 minutes). A new, out-of-the-box Mac OS X computer in the same situation will not get hacked. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I admit it...you are right. Macworld lied...computerworld...dozens of news organizations lied. MS paid big for this one. I take it all back. Happiness is in your own little world unruffled and unfettered by things such as truth. Mike On 5/8/07, Mason Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People have been spreading this intellectual honesty for years, and still no mac exploits. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: > In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could > allow > arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of > the type > that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac > os then > windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is > misunderstood by > most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do > anyone any > good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked > to about > security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I > hope for is > a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. > > Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
People have been spreading this intellectual honesty for years, and still no mac exploits. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
This contest proved that a mac could be hacked easily...as soon as there was some motive to do so which was money. This has been the contention of many that the reasons macs aren't targeted is not because they are more secure but because there is no point, no money in it. If your job is to get as many machines on a botnet as possible why would you target such a minuscule audience? If you are interested in making money from spam, again why target an audience where there are nothing but empty seats in the theater? In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike On 5/8/07, Mason Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When was the last time this happened on a Mac? Apple has already patched the hole that was documented in very short order, as they usually do. Windows on the other hand.. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 3:09 PM, mike wrote: > So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit > for mac os > could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any > number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a > commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. > > That would solve the problem. > > Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
When was the last time this happened on a Mac? Apple has already patched the hole that was documented in very short order, as they usually do. Windows on the other hand.. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 3:09 PM, mike wrote: So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
You need to reread the facts. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/04/25/qthack/index.php That's from macworld, not exactly in the pocket of MS. It was not a proof of concept it was an actual exploit of an actual bug in quicktime. Changing the rules meant the mac user would have to go to a website and click a link...that's IT. That's ALL. This type of hack is the same as most on windows. So a hack that attacks a mac in the SAME WAY as windows is making it easier? As stated in the article it was akin to the windows cursor flaw, click and your owned. Take your Apple specs off and stand back, get some perpsective, your constant windows bashing is taking a toll on your objectivity. Windows is now like a loaded gun, and after stating that you say that's not an exaggeration? Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os >could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any >number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a >commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. This is a terrible exaggeration. This was not an "exploit", but a minimal proof of concept. The contest had run for days with no winner so they changed the rules to make it easier. Apple patched it a few days later. You seem to have a problem distinguishing between the real and the unreal. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Tom in this case you and I are both in agreement. TIVO could have the up to date info if it wanted. Stewart At 05:40 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: >I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I >found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it >does not pick it up on Season Pass. Programming services that are used for Tivo & Replay are almost never updated for last-minute programming changes. In the Internet Age we expect better. And we could get better. Because most stations broadcast ID information in the blanking interval, my HDTV has an "info" button that displays info about what I'm watching. This often includes the name of the program. A smart box could detect that the scheduled program was not being broadcast on schedule and could record it when it actually is broadcast. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
>I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I >found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it >does not pick it up on Season Pass. Programming services that are used for Tivo & Replay are almost never updated for last-minute programming changes. In the Internet Age we expect better. And we could get better. Because most stations broadcast ID information in the blanking interval, my HDTV has an "info" button that displays info about what I'm watching. This often includes the name of the program. A smart box could detect that the scheduled program was not being broadcast on schedule and could record it when it actually is broadcast. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
I was mainly commenting on the NSCAR race for Saturday night which was rescheduled for Sunday. I ended up being out all of Sunday so did not get a chance to reset my TIVO for that race. (Usually they rain delay for hours not a whole day.) I will contact them and put a bug in their ear. Stewart At 03:19 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: Tivo and other DVRs get their scheduling information from services like Tribune. If the programmer doesn't give them updating information, then these services will not have it either. I like to check sites like Titantv and Zap2it for my regular "tv guide" info. My Tivo makes daily calls for scheduling data but ... see above. YMMV I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it does not pick it up on Season Pass. -- "So it goes" - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922-2007) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
I used to do that sort of work. I think you did the right thing charging her just $25. Consider it the cost of developing a new good customer. Bart - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: [CGUYS] What should one charge? I got a call today from a sometime client. A Mac user, fwiw. She couldn't get her computer to turn on, having had to "force quit" something yesterday. Since I couldn't understand her explanation of her difficulty, I arranged to go over and take a look at the machine. Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a "shut down" instead of a "force quit" yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the "on" switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the "on" switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine "on"? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB Flash drive
All right! The Rev. Dude rules Guy stuff don't fade just because you're older! Yeah, my hands ain't so steady now either. LOL Bart - Original Message - From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] USB Flash drive Well I got a chance to try out my fix to transfer the data. IT WORKED! I bought a cheap USB HUB at Walmart. Took the cover off, and snipped off the wires (saved me from having to cut a perfectly good cord, plus price was the same) Took the reinforced end off, and peeled back the cover of the wire. Bought some longer Steel stick pins (I had thought of using the original contacts, but too short and almost impossible to solder back on!) Bent different pins at different angles so that they would not touch! (after of course tracing and figuring out which color went where.) Had to use my hemostats to attach one wire as I could not get a stick pin to solder at one contact point.) Had wife hold memory card, attached the cord to a USB extension cord and immediately (well almost) it started to install the memory card. Had one glitch and had to start over. (had to be very still) Got every thing transferred. As soon as it was done, I had wife detach cord, and then allowed myself breath! Now it was simple to transfer it to a new memory stick and bagged the old one. $20.00 for a new memory stick and whatever I can get out of him for time, trouble and materials. (For what they charge for drive recovery My price will seem low.) Would I want to do it again NO! My fingers are not as steady as they used to be, and I do not have a proper work bench with the proper light. (I need one of those magnifying lights! with clips!) Stewart At 10:30 PM 5/4/2007, you wrote: If you heat that chip up, there is a chance you may wipe the memory... I am not sure but I would think twice about soldering directly... Have you thought about holding probes firmly to the contacts while someone else salvages the data? db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
>So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os >could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any >number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a >commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. This is a terrible exaggeration. This was not an "exploit", but a minimal proof of concept. The contest had run for days with no winner so they changed the rules to make it easier. Apple patched it a few days later. You seem to have a problem distinguishing between the real and the unreal. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Tivo and other DVRs get their scheduling information from services like Tribune. If the programmer doesn't give them updating information, then these services will not have it either. I like to check sites like Titantv and Zap2it for my regular "tv guide" info. My Tivo makes daily calls for scheduling data but ... see above. YMMV I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it does not pick it up on Season Pass. -- "So it goes" - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922-2007) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I have spent over $10,000 on hardware this year, and untold time, that serves no purpose other than to scrub spam. I can tell you from experience, logs and stats that 90% of our spam is coming from infected Windows machines. I am beginning to firmly believe that Windows IS a virus. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: The point is that by using Windows you are harming me and I wish you would stop. The malware, spam, and security measures are becoming too much to bear. I should not be forced to build walls and hire guards just because you insist on running a crackhouse. Stop running defective software! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
BTW, a lot of the new higher-end copy machines will also let you scan and save in various formats, although 600 dpi might be a bit of a stretch, and I don't know about the size of the scans on the average high-end copy machine, either. The machines cost a fortune, but if you need to both copy and scan... I take it you're looking for a flatbed scanner--the tray-feed ones aren't nearly as common, so there might not be much in the way of statistical databases on their lifespan. As a rule, you can get a moderately priced flatbed scanner for a lot less than a similar quality tray-feed scanner. But the tray-feed machine is much more efficient if you have to scan a lot of pages. I'm getting ready to scan about 60 documents right now, and--thank heavens--I'll be using a five-year-old Canon DR5080-C, not the dinky little flatbed scanner that it replaced. --Constance Warner -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:33 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. >Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I >tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much >luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another >scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe >5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, >doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are >hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a >difference. tia. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stop running defective software! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
>What is the reason that most folks seem to leave their computers (client >computers) on and connected to the Internet 24x7? I don't. I shut my >computer off when I'm not going to use it for a period of time (especially >overnight). I also disconnect it from the Internet (via software >firewall, usually) whenever I'm away from it. Every computer that is not >a server ought to be treated that way. Even if they get a 'bot on my >machine, they will have a tough time activating and using it. This last week Future Tense had a program on energy consumption by the tech industry. They say that our failure to turn things off is becoming a problem. Lots of energy wasted by computers that are running, but not doing anything. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
>It doesn't matter why he wants Windows on the Mac (he did >tell us later on). It never occured to me to ask WHY he wanted >to do it, I simply assumed that he had a need that the Mac was >not able to meet on its own. The strident reactions remind me of a time when I was frequently telling people on a bus, airplane, waiting room, etc.: "This is not a smoking area." Many were indignant that I was violating their rights. I am happy that times have changed. The point is that by using Windows you are harming me and I wish you would stop. The malware, spam, and security measures are becoming too much to bear. I should not be forced to build walls and hire guards just because you insist on running a crackhouse. Stop running defective software! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
The apple tv does not also put out 720p in any meaningful way...meaning any movies you download from itunes or in even the trailers from Apple's own site. As engadget said in their review, it's not called the Apple HDTV for a reason. Mike On 5/8/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I beleive that Apple TV is similar to TIVO which is a type of DVR. No, Apple TV is much less than it could or should be. It just plays files you have on disk. It has no recording functions. For that you will have to go elsewhere. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
My experience with scanners was for large engineering data. (They cost about $5k-$10k each, but cheaper now than then). If left to themselves, the customers would try to keep the scanners going long after they were junk, the interface to the computer was obsolete, and the cost of maintenance was climbing through the roof. Replacing scanners at least every five years is a good way to prevent all of that. Mark Snyder -Original Message- Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
Tom you are right and you are wrong. There are all different types of scanners. A $49.00 scanner might be just right for the once a quarter, maybe once a month scanner. But it will not be right for an institution that must scan a multitude of documents, small books etc. all the time. They may require an ADF unit, high resolution, longer platen etc. (most bottom end scanners limit to 8.5 x 11) Also note some of the higher end models with do transparency scanning while the cheaper once won't. It is not a simple answer. Stewart At 02:32 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. >Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I >tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much >luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another >scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe >5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, >doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are >hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a >difference. tia. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
>I beleive that Apple TV is similar to TIVO which is a type of DVR. No, Apple TV is much less than it could or should be. It just plays files you have on disk. It has no recording functions. For that you will have to go elsewhere. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
>I could manage without Windows, but why not have it there, just in case? I used to do that, especially with books, but now books are obsolete and I'm gradually tossing them. When I toss an obsolete tech book that I never read that is a waste. Unlike books which are mostly not dangerous to have around (unless Homeland Security takes an interest in your reading habits), having Windows around can be potentially harmful. Would you keep a loaded shotgun at your front door, "just in case?" Some people would. The argument for not having Windows and not having that loaded gun is about the same. It could potentially hurt others. Both the gun and Windows owner will insist: "I know what I'm doing." Yet the plague of shootings and the plague of malware would not exist if they were not around. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
Depends on the scanner. A $49 scanner is not durable. A $ scanner will probably last until it is technically obsolete. If you spend $ to buy 200 $49 scanners and discard one every month, they will outlast the one $ scanner. >Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I >tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much >luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another >scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe >5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, >doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are >hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a >difference. tia. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
I bought a Viewsonic from our local Power company this spring. It has multiple hookups to it, (From HDMI down to video composite level) It also has a VGA connector and will take raw Video input from the computer (via VGA cable) and looks splendid, (Just like a huge 32" monitor, which I wish I had in my office) I beleive that Apple TV is similar to TIVO which is a type of DVR. I have TIVO and like it immensely. But it does have one glitch I found out this weekend. If an event is cancelled and rescheduled it does not pick it up on Season Pass. Stewart At 12:24 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote: Looking for information / considerations / experience here. I want to purchase and LCD TV for our living room on a non-expansive budget. I also want to be able to feed said TV programming not just from an attached DVR and DVD player (and VCR probably for some stuff), but also ideally other content from our computers. What do I need to do this? Is this what the Apple TV does? Does the Apple TV fill any of the other above roles such that I could eliminate the DVR or DVD or both? Any thoughts welcome. Matthew Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
>The thing that threw me about my client, >though, was that she really didn't realize that there was an "on" switch. >The computer was just always turned on. Fantastic confirmation of just how well the Macs do run. In contrast it would be a rare Windows user who did not know about BSOD, the three finger salute, anti-virus, anti-spyware, and patch Tuesday. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. I import MP3s from the book-on-CD into iTunes; convert them to AIFF [or WAVE] for audio CDs [in Advanced menu, or set Preferences to import as AIFF], then burn disks directly from iTunes. Very easy, very fast, but can you do that in the Windows version? It's free. We have a Honda Civic that has an audio input jack beneath the DC input/cigarette lighter. Doesn't the Accord have this? We use a portable CD player when we travel instead of an iPod because we buy disks and want to play them immediately, also the CD player isn't as likely as an iPod to be stolen. Isn't it time to get a new MP3 player, or go retro with a personal CD/MP3 player? store.apple.com red tag sale - iPod shuffle 1GB $49; Nano 2GB $109; 4GB $149 - prices change hourly/daily Creative Zen Micro 6GB Sale -$100 http://us.creative.com/products/products.asp?product=10795&category=213&subcategory=214 Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Matthew Taylor: > Looking for information / considerations / experience here. I want to > purchase and LCD TV for our living room on a non-expansive budget. I also > want to be able to feed said TV programming not just from an attached DVR and > DVD player (and VCR probably for some stuff), but also ideally other content > from our computers. What do I need to do this? Is this what the Apple TV > does? Does the Apple TV fill any of the other above roles such that I could > eliminate the DVR or DVD or both? Do yourself a real favor, get a TV which can serve as a monitor or accept VGA or preferably DVI input and forget trying to for example adapt the output from your computer to your TV. I also strongly suggest getting a tuner capable of ATSC and QAM (which are the two most common HDTV formats, one for broadcast, the other for cable). * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] LCD TV's and how to feed them
Looking for information / considerations / experience here. I want to purchase and LCD TV for our living room on a non-expansive budget. I also want to be able to feed said TV programming not just from an attached DVR and DVD player (and VCR probably for some stuff), but also ideally other content from our computers. What do I need to do this? Is this what the Apple TV does? Does the Apple TV fill any of the other above roles such that I could eliminate the DVR or DVD or both? Any thoughts welcome. Matthew * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
Thanks very much for the comments, everyone! What a thoughtful group! In "real" life, when not turning on computers, I repair/replace chair seats for customers. (Hence the e-mail name.) It took me many years, probably about 10 years in fact, to realize that I was giving away repairs which customers therefore did not appreciate. Once I started charging for repairs (broken wood frames, tightening rungs to keep the chairs from falling apart when used, etc.) these services became valuable. Some folks did their own repairs, which is/was a blessing as it means I can concentrate on what I enjoy, and others have me do their dirty work for them. But at least I get compensated now for the time it all takes. I take a similar approach to showing folks how to turn on their computers. & It actually took me a few minutes to find the "on" switch on the eMac. It's pretty inconspicuous. The thing that threw me about my client, though, was that she really didn't realize that there was an "on" switch. The computer was just always turned on. Next time, though, I'll have to use E Riley Casey's pricing scheme. It certainly would have been more beneficial than my charge. :) Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Itunes. If you import the audio book into Itunes you can then burn the tracks as an audio CD. It will take more than one CD in that format. On May 8, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu When you burn the CDs, get it right the first time. I messed up when I was burning an Audivle.com book (they allow you one burn from your download) and had to pay them a little more to get a second shot. Bill * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Itunes. If you import the audio book into Itunes you can then burn the tracks as an audio CD. It will take more than one CD in that format. On May 8, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MP3-CD
Using either Roxio or Nero. Copy all the MP3 files to your harddrive in a folder. Using Roxio or Nero, make Audio CD's (Music) and then copy only enough tracks to the CD as allowed by the software. Be sure to close out the CD's (finalize) when you burn them. Sounds like about 7 CD's worth of audio. Stewart At 09:34 AM 5/8/2007, you wrote: I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] MP3-CD
I purchased a book-on-CD and it is in MP3-CD format; the entire book is on a single CD. The CD player in my car is not advanced enough to play MP3 files, and for some reason I cannot transfer the 400MB book to my MP3 player (Creative Zen Micro -- it seems that the book is too large -- I am speaking with Creative tech support about this). Is there any software that will allow me to convert the book to a format that I can play in my car CD player in a 2004 Honda Accord? Thanks. Stu ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
David Turk sez: >I struggle with this all the time when doing freelance work. I can do a >portrait in my sleep, but does that mean since it's easy for me, it >should be cheap? Most photographers feel they're charging for their >expertise & skills Exactly. It took me a long time to realize this. It probably is what put me in the most trouble. For the longest time I would charge portions of an hour if the job was a quickie, and just as quickly I was missing paying my bills. Heh heh. Once I began charging a two-hour minimum to account for driving time (time spent on the road that I can't be working with another client) and prep time (if I have to download any update files, etc. before I go), I found a number of things happened. One, I stopped grumbling so much about the terrible traffic around here. That, of course leads to a much better mood when I arrive. :) Also, my clients began to avail themselves of that two hours if what I was there to do didn't fill it, which means they asked more questions, took more notes, and learned a lot more. Sometimes I was able to write up instruction sheets for whatever I did while I was there. So, basically, while I did it to cover drive time, the minimum is that expertise and skills bit really. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
For turning the computer on - $2.00 For round trip travel DC metro area- $60.00 For teaching the user about the on / off switch & the difference between sleep and shut down - $150 This shouldn't be an issue of computer / technology anxiety, male vs female, left brain vs right brain, old versus young or any of the other little dividing lines we like to make mountains of in our spare time. There are very few people yet alive in North America who have not grown up with the concept of the ON / OFF switch on an electrical appliance. The right to choose not to read the directions should come at some expense. Hows that for a jaundiced reply ? ;-) == in reply to ... I got a call today from a sometime client. A Mac user, fwiw. She couldn't get her computer to turn on, having had to "force quit" something yesterday. Since I couldn't understand her explanation of her difficulty, I arranged to go over and take a look at the machine. Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a "shut down" instead of a "force quit" yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the "on" switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the "on" switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine "on"? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. -- E. Riley Casey Silver Spring MD 301-608-2180 ph 301-608-0789 fx 301-440-2923 shoe phone Entertainment Sound Production ( http://www.ESPsound.com ) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
I struggle with this all the time when doing freelance work. I can do a portrait in my sleep, but does that mean since it's easy for me, it should be cheap? Most photographers feel they're charging for their expertise & skills (not to say I haven't encountered some people who charge by the size of their egos, rather than their talent...) david David Turk Photographer Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of g.knight Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:28 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge? This is an interesting thread, especially the response about not knowing someone's personal handicaps (including lack of knowledge). The first thing that strikes me is that we are in a profession where others think they can do the same thing (my granddaughter can do HTML, so why should I pay you big bucks?) -- sort of like paying attorneys to write wills (it seems so simple...). The second is that with some professions we are seemingly stuck: plumbers, drywallers, telephone installation, furnace repair, AAA. If you can get someone to show up at the appointed time, it seems worth the $95 to walk through the door -- rather than having to spend our own time doing this chore, without the correct equipment. It is, as Michel notes, our training and experience. If she could fix it herself, she'd do so. We solve some of this with maintenance contracts, adjusted annually. I might also, before walking out the door to an appointment, said "it is $95 for me to walk through the door" which would cover some of the travel time involved. We also bill on a set hourly rate, in 15-minute increments. Perhaps we need a conglomerate of "certified" computer professionals where the rates are set and those who hire us know that up front. /gayley knight businessherway.net Michel Lowe wrote: > A plumber in Northern Virginia charges $95 just for showing up. Mechanics > charge anywhere from $50 to $75 per hour. When you figure out the average > doctor visit of 15 minutes runs you at least a $15 deductable ($60 per > hour)but she really charges $40 for the visit ($160/hour) I'd agree with > your customer: $50/hour for computer repair is VERY reasonable. > > Remember, it's not the actual service you performed that she's paying for > it's also your training and experience. BTW, Verizon bills at least $150 > per hour to install and/or trouble shoot routing and switching gear on their > customer's site. > > -Mike > > -Original Message- > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:11 PM > Subject: [CGUYS] What should one charge? > > Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the > computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the > mouse a > couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is > 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a > "shut > down" instead of a "force quit" yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was > > saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple > of > minutes to find the "on" switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as > you > face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched > the "on" switch, and the computer turned on. > > So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine "on"? > > I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. > Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a > bargain. I > thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. > > I would be curious to hear from others though. > > Mical Wilmoth Carton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What should one charge?
This is an interesting thread, especially the response about not knowing someone's personal handicaps (including lack of knowledge). The first thing that strikes me is that we are in a profession where others think they can do the same thing (my granddaughter can do HTML, so why should I pay you big bucks?) -- sort of like paying attorneys to write wills (it seems so simple...). The second is that with some professions we are seemingly stuck: plumbers, drywallers, telephone installation, furnace repair, AAA. If you can get someone to show up at the appointed time, it seems worth the $95 to walk through the door -- rather than having to spend our own time doing this chore, without the correct equipment. It is, as Michel notes, our training and experience. If she could fix it herself, she'd do so. We solve some of this with maintenance contracts, adjusted annually. I might also, before walking out the door to an appointment, said "it is $95 for me to walk through the door" which would cover some of the travel time involved. We also bill on a set hourly rate, in 15-minute increments. Perhaps we need a conglomerate of "certified" computer professionals where the rates are set and those who hire us know that up front. /gayley knight businessherway.net Michel Lowe wrote: A plumber in Northern Virginia charges $95 just for showing up. Mechanics charge anywhere from $50 to $75 per hour. When you figure out the average doctor visit of 15 minutes runs you at least a $15 deductable ($60 per hour)but she really charges $40 for the visit ($160/hour) I'd agree with your customer: $50/hour for computer repair is VERY reasonable. Remember, it's not the actual service you performed that she's paying for it's also your training and experience. BTW, Verizon bills at least $150 per hour to install and/or trouble shoot routing and switching gear on their customer's site. -Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: [CGUYS] What should one charge? Client has a very nice eMac running System 10.4.8. When I got there, the computer was turned off. I asked how it was turned on, and she tapped the mouse a couple of times. I said: That's nice. You can do that when the computer is 'sleeping.' But it's obviously turned off right now. (She must have done a "shut down" instead of a "force quit" yesterday.) Client had no idea of what I was saying. I had never had to turn this machine on before, so it took a couple of minutes to find the "on" switch. It's on the right side of the machine (as you face the screen), and just behind and below the wire connections. I touched the "on" switch, and the computer turned on. So -- what does one charge for turning a client's machine "on"? I did a couple of other housecleaning things. Added a couple of bookmarks. Was there about 1/2 hour. I charged a mere $25. She thought it was a bargain. I thought it was a joke, but I had to charge something. I would be curious to hear from others though. Mical Wilmoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Scanner stats
I don't know of any studies on scanner life span. You may be able to check a few of the top scanner maker's web sites for specs, which can help a little. I would think a five-year replacement plan would be a good one, though. Look also to see how often major improvements are introduced and how often the connectivity interface changes. You will want to take advantage / keep up with those too (not just wait for things to break). Mark Snyder -Original Message- Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. david * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Scanner stats
Has anyone done a study on the average life of a scanner? I know I tried finding similar stats on digital cameras awhile ago, but not much luck. I need to tell my supervisors when we can expect to get another scanner to replace the one that's out for repairs. I'm guessing maybe 5-7 years. This scanner is used every day in a normal 40-hour week, doing anywhere from 10-50 scans per day. At least 1/3 of the scans are hi-res (8x10 @ 600dpi, 30x40 @ 300dpi, etc.), if that makes a difference. tia. david David Turk Photographer Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
