Is this to say the censoring of anything only comes from the religious?
City council in LA just banned the building of any new fast food restaraunts
in poorer sections. Cities and counties across the US ban smoking in public
and private areas...I don't think there is any religious basis
All societies set their own morals/ethics by majority opinion. Our
federal government is supposed to reflect that choice by the laws it
passes. This is not always the case and people may disagree with it.
No they do not. Judicial opinion probably has the greatest influence.
That system has a
Robert,
As a fellow secularist, I have to point out that this type of
confrontational arguing serves to discredit us in the eyes of most US
citizens. Please try a different approach.
--JE
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Robert Michael Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
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By the way Morals/Ethics do not equal public law.
Now understand I am talking about this and looking at this as a
Sociologist would.
How the everyday person looks a this is a confusion of all the above
terms and realizations.
Stewart
At 08:25 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
All societies set
By the way some would view secularism as its own religion.
Stewart
At 09:07 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
Robert,
As a fellow secularist, I have to point out that this type of
confrontational arguing serves to discredit us in the eyes of most US
citizens. Please try a different approach.
--JE
I'm still waiting for those computers with auto transmissions to come out.
Mike
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know enough to answer all your questions.
The Pro one is soon to be sent off to a university with my daughter,
despite the urging of
Oh and sticks usually cost a few hundred less! :-)
Stewart
At 11:02 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
I'm still waiting for those computers with auto transmissions to come out.
Mike
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That's all in your head, sticks actually cost more.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
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Oh and sticks usually cost a few hundred less! :-)
Stewart
At 11:02 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
I'm still waiting for those computers with auto transmissions
Right..censorship cause it's good for you! Why is it good for you? Cause
we decided it is!
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this to say the censoring of anything only comes from the religious?
City council in LA just banned the building of any new fast
Interesting you should mention that.
The Aztecs used tobacco in their society for religious and medical
purposes. (I am watching the History channel!)
Stewart
At 11:58 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
So we ban fast acting poisons, but allow slow acting poisons? What is the
dividing line between
I still prefer Stick Shifts, you usually get better mileage with a stick! :-)
Stewart
At 11:02 AM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
I'm still waiting for those computers with auto transmissions to come out.
Mike
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Unfortunately we have two (Executive and Legislative) that do not
seem to be able to make any decisions without consulting public
opinion.
Our current Executive branch seems to be completely unconcerned
about consulting with
On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
By the way Morals/Ethics do not equal public law.
Is this the same as the Ollie North Defense?
Steve
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Nope groups have a tendency to set their own more's which get
translated into morals which individuals accept as ethics. These are
not always in congruency with the laws of the land.
Take for example the area of the country I live in.
For decades and even for a century the mores of the group
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At 03:45 PM 8/4/2008, you wrote:
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At 11:44 PM 8/3/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this to say the censoring of anything only comes from the religious?
I was addressing the forms of censorship that Stewart was discussing.
Those are, for the reasons I described, motivated by religious beliefs, on
the one hand, and
At 08:16 PM 8/3/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have a problem with organized religion.
What problem is that, Stewart? Please enlighten me. I happen to ADORE
both the free exercise and establishment clauses of the First Amendment.
Your right and my right to
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Our federal government is supposed to reflect that
choice by the laws it passes. This is not always
the case and people may disagree with it.
I disagree with the supposed to part. They have a
number of democratic ideals, and a number of
constitutional provisions, to answer to, so, and
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Robert Michael Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
You are correct about the fairness doctrine, it has nothing to do with
censorship but rather a free market vs government regulated market.
Mike
I don't understand the point you are making, since the fairness
At 03:57 PM 8/4/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are correct about the fairness doctrine, it has nothing to do with
censorship but rather a free market vs government regulated market.
I disagree, Mike, because of your use of the term market. The legal
philosophy in this country,
At 07:07 AM 8/4/2008, John Emmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert,
Bob, please.
As a fellow secularist, I have to point out that this type of
confrontational arguing serves to discredit us in the eyes of most US citizens.
No, it doesn't. And, even if it did, how would you
At 07:14 AM 8/4/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way some would view secularism as its own religion.
Which just goes to show you how desperate some theocrat wannabes can get.
In order for secularism, whatever in hell THAT means, to be a
religion, it must
I would not have it say for every pizza hut pizza I order via the net I have
to order a peter piper pizza. I would prefer both able to equally enter the
arena of selling me pizza, and based on taste or price or form/speed of
delivery, and in turn allow me to choose which pizza I eat, how often or
From: Robert Michael Abrams
OK. I'll go from confrontational to vulgar: I'll tell
them to suck my balls.
Mega-dittos!
-Bert
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way some would view secularism as its own religion.
And some view Creationism as science.
Neither view can stand on its own, not being self-consistent.
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On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics.
In practical terms, ethics have guiding principles, while morals have no
need for a basis or any consistency. Thus, morals are more often associated
with religion than anything
At 03:43 PM 8/4/2008, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our federal government is supposed to reflect that choice by the laws it
passes. This is not always the case and people may disagree with it.
I disagree with the supposed to part. They have a number of democratic
ideals, and a
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