Re: [CGUYS] Miraculous Healing of Mouse

2009-06-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Gail.Miller gail.mil...@comcast.netwrote: - Original Message - From: Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Miraculous Healing of Mouse At 08:07 PM

Re: [CGUYS] Why Apple wins. every. time.

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: Right, netbooks aren't computers but iPHONES are not phones but computers... In reality, cell phones aren't really phones. They are actually two-way radios as far as the phone side of their usage is concerned. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Wright
You missed a step. If someone has not yet purchased an Intel based Mac they have to now buy an Intel based Mac so it would be even more costly. Is this what you call Tomonomics? 29 + [cost of new Intel Mac] = 29 BTW, I think it's downright rude how we Windows people haven't heard one word

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Vista-Ready New computer + cost of Vista + (oops!) new computer (that can actually run Vista and all of its marvels). WFBonomics, I suppose. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Is this what you call Tomonomics? 29 + [cost of new Intel Mac] = 29 BTW, I think it's downright rude

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Wright
Vista-Ready New computer + cost of Vista + (oops!) new computer (that can actually run Vista and all of its marvels). WFBonomics, I suppose. Actually, that's Intelonomics (or maybe markting-troll-o'nomics), since they were the ones pushing for that idiotic monkier. Any WFB could have told you

[CGUYS] Windows XP active partitions question

2009-06-11 Thread Robert Carroll
I have discovered that some of my external hard drives have been marked as active when I converted them from FAT32 to NTSC. Each drive has one partition only, and there are no OS on these drives. Will having active partitions on multiple drive cause me a problem? If so, is there a way to

[CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread mike
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/11/jimmy-fallon-rocks-out-with-project-natal/#continued Jimmy on his late show playing natal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness,

Re: [CGUYS] Windows XP active partitions question

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Wright
I have discovered that some of my external hard drives have been marked as active when I converted them from FAT32 to NTSC.  Each drive has one partition only, and there are no OS on these drives. Will having active partitions on multiple drive cause me a problem?  If so, is there a way to

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread Chris Dunford
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/11/jimmy-fallon-rocks-out-with-project- natal/#continued Jimmy on his late show playing natal. Jimmy Fallon, M$ minion. And, oh, so much for Tom's staged demo theory. * ** List info,

[CGUYS] Nasty virus going around - others getting these today? Any fixes?

2009-06-11 Thread johnleehol...@gmail.com
Mac Linux users can ignore this ;-) In very large numbers we have been getting a very difficult virus that Norton Anti-virus does not fix. A colleague described the virus as a social engineering [attack which attempts to infect] . . . with the W32.Acktantta virus. This virus replicates by

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Steve at Verizon
I've mentioned earlier here, that I put the Win 7 beta on my 3 year old Lenovo laptop back in Jan, and the RC when it came out, and it runs fabulously; even better than with XP3. I did invest $11 at Microcenter to take it to 2G. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Win 7 actually will run on many XP

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The best we have to offer do not usually go into politics. Besides which I thought Elvis was not dead he just went home to his home planet. Stewart At 02:41 PM 6/11/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: 50 million Elvis fans can't be

[CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
The Washington Post today, Thursday, June 11, has a good article about how the transition to digital television has missed virtually every single promised advantage over analog TV. The claims made by broadcasters and their lobbying organizations that were designed to ensure and garner public

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Dunfordseed...@gmail.com wrote: Well, he won one election, anyway. Actually, he won them both by hook or by crook. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright  Let's put this all into a certain perspective.  Market forces have made it abundantly clear that the Windows operating system and the computers that come supplied with that OS are absolutely superior in every way, shape and form.  The sales figures have made this an indisputable

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Wayne Dernoncourtway...@panix.com wrote: That's ridiculous!  Personal computers (small computers designed to be owned/used by an individual) have been around for what 25-30 years?  Microsoft has been in the drivers seat for 20-25 of those years (since DOS

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Can I ask an enormously stupid and off the wall question? Why is it that some folks seem to have nothing but problems with Windows and I have nary a problem? Granted I have had a problem or tow along the way. I have done real stupid stuff like do upgrade instead of clean installs, cloned

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Bill Wajert
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: 50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong. They think he is still alive. Look at it another way. If this were a presidential election, what words would you use to describe the voting gap between 1st and 2nd place?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
What do you do with your windows computer? Do you install everything under the sun that looks neat? I do on my Mac. Why is it you have to only do clean installs? And why have you had to reload Windows a time or two? I've upgraded my OS on my Macs, but never had to reload the OS. My guess

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
1000 times better then Obama? What planet are you living on? I'm not one to bad mouth Elvis. I was never a fan but hand nothing against him. So he never qualified for my praise or condemnation. On the other hand Obama was elected to clean up the mess. And with a few exceptions I have,

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Can I ask an enormously stupid and off the wall question? Why is it that some folks seem to have nothing but problems with Windows and I have nary a problem? Dunno. I wonder the same thing. Some folks

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Bill Wajertwrws...@swbell.net wrote: He might not have been the best we had to offer, but he is 1000 times better than Obama. Ouch!!! And the guy has only been at it for such a short time. He's even continuing a number of the Bush policies, yet he is already

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread Tony B
You forgot a link. But I'm not even sure what you're complaining about. 8vsb? ATSC? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM, phartz...@gmail.comphartz...@gmail.com wrote:  The Washington Post today, Thursday, June 11, has a good article about how the transition to digital television has missed

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread Roger D. Parish
Try this link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/09/AR2009060903144.html?wprss=rss_technology At 8:12 PM -0400 6/11/09, Tony B wrote: You forgot a link. But I'm not even sure what you're complaining about. 8vsb? ATSC? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, mike wrote: Jimmy on his late show playing natal. And engadget says... Also, anyone notice Fallon asking Kudo if this would ship in 2010 and Kudo declining to answer... Need I say more?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread b_s-wilk
Can I ask an enormously stupid and off the wall question? Why is it that some folks seem to have nothing but problems with Windows and I have nary a problem? Stewart, Is that a rhetorical question? You're a techie and know what you're doing. You know enough to see a mistake BEFORE it

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread b_s-wilk
The Washington Post today, Thursday, June 11, has a good article about how the transition to digital television has missed virtually every single promised advantage over analog TV. The claims made by broadcasters and their lobbying organizations that were designed to ensure and garner

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread Art Clemons
The Washington Post today, Thursday, June 11, has a good article about how the transition to digital television has missed virtually every single promised advantage over analog TV. The claims made by broadcasters and their lobbying organizations that were designed to ensure and garner

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: But, doesn't marketplace dominance determine what is best? I thought that concept was the whole theory of how the almighty marketplace sorts out the wheat from the chaff. Absolutely, I'll pick the $1 McDonalds burger over a sirloin steak

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 10, 2009, at 10:36 PM, mike wrote: As far what Tom is talking about, he can blame MS as he always does, but it's more of an ISP problem. Even if MS begs them to do this, they have to agree. Attempted obscuration (of course). Nevertheless it is M$ at the heart of this dirty deed.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: So why is it that I seem to have very little problems running windows and some seem to have nothing but problems. It all depends on what you are comparing it to. This afternoon I ran into somebody who moved back to her home town a

[CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread b_s-wilk
24 iMac = old time drive-in movie theater Get a USB drive adapter and try connecting the bare drive to your iMac, http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adaptv2.php. Find one discounted at macsales.com or provantage.com. Or get a Thermaltake or Startech USB HD dock if you have SATA drives.

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread Tony B
Actually, no, I didn't hear that question at all. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, mike wrote: Jimmy on his late show playing natal. And engadget says... Also, anyone notice Fallon asking Kudo if this would ship in 2010 and Kudo

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Thanks, but I guess my question kind of still dangles out there. They are SATA drives that came out of earlier iMacs. With this external Antec it shows up on the laptops, but not on the new iMac. I'm just wondering why. The whole reason for buying the thing was to make transferring old

[CGUYS] Spiteful Win7 Release

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
So much smarter than those regulators from Old Europe, M$ has announced that the European version of Win 7 will ship with no software to access the Internet. Take that you croissant eaters who think you would simply download FireFox. Maybe you'll be able to get a copy via the post?

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread Roger D. Parish
Which USB port are you plugging the external enclosure into? It might be a low-power port that can't power the disks. At 7:05 PM -0700 6/11/09, Jeff Miles wrote: Thanks, but I guess my question kind of still dangles out there. They are SATA drives that came out of earlier iMacs. With this

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Well dang, that was it. I didn't know there was a difference. Of course in my excitement over getting the new computer and setting it up, I didn't bother reading the book. Jeff M On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: Which USB port are you plugging the external enclosure

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Tony B wrote: Actually, no, I didn't hear that question at all. Why am I not surprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: Well dang, that was it. I didn't know there was a difference. Of course in my excitement over getting the new computer and setting it up, I didn't bother reading the book. I really hate it when I have to connect via USB instead of FireWire.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread b_s-wilk
Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net escribió: I will go with the last part before any of the other. (Although I seriously wonder if anyone has God on their side. I would much prefer to be on his side than have him on my side. theological diatribe here. Just kidding. I like your

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Art Clemons
The cheapo Win7 releases at Best Buy seem to be 50 and 100 for upgrades. I heard it was from Vista only. Apparently you can upgrade from XP, only thing is that win 7 will not use your apps and settings, it will instead make your old windows folder into something that is saved (you likely can

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread b_s-wilk
You plugged it into the keyboard? an unpowerd hub? HAHAHAHAHA! Dang! Try a powered hub, http://tinyurl.com/lp8ydu. Well dang, that was it. I didn't know there was a difference. Of course in my excitement over getting the new computer and setting it up, I didn't bother reading the book.

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will

2009-06-11 Thread mike
I'm surprised you don't think MS was at the heart of the Bush 'crimes'hmm, maybe you do. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 10, 2009, at 10:36 PM, mike wrote: As far what Tom is talking about, he can blame MS as he always does, but it's more of an ISP

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tony Bton...@gmail.com wrote: You forgot a link. But I'm not even sure what you're complaining about. 8vsb? ATSC? Who's complaining? I was merely paraphrasing and pointing out a Washington Post article about how digital television is not delivering what had

Re: [CGUYS] Shiny new iMac [was: Apple Does it Right]

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
No, I had the keyboard plugged into the first USB slot. I had the external plugged into the 3rd slot. I switched them and now everything is working fine. The mouse is the only thing I have plugged into the keyboard USB slots. By the way, this small little keyboard is a pain in the butt. I

Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Art Clemonsartclem...@aol.com wrote: It's a good bet that most broadcasters didn't want ATSC, it's an additional expense and new transmitters had to be bought or alternatively expensive alterations to existing ones had to be made. To the best of my

Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Bing Against Their Will

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Miles
Gates didn't have enough money for Bush to squander. Why use one guy when you can use a whole country? On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:20 PM, mike wrote: I'm surprised you don't think MS was at the heart of the Bush 'crimes'hmm, maybe you do. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM, t.piwowar

Re: [CGUYS] jimmy fallon and natal

2009-06-11 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Well, yeah. You might say why you're apparently assuming that declining to talk about the release date really means won't ship in 2010. Did you notice that in order to get the system to work they all had to wear red jump suits and stand