Re: [CGUYS] Upgrade Plan was Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-24 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Reid Katan wrote:

Quoting "John H. Davis" :

   I heard 10.5 no longer supports iphoto, anyone see other problem spots?


I have X.5.8 on my Mini and it came with iPhoto. I think it was X.5.4 out of 
the box. Only used it once, but it seems like it worked okay.


I have 10.6.2 on my Mac Mini, and it came with iPhoto 8.1.1. I believe
that's part of the iLife package, which came for free with my Mac which
I purchased directly from Apple.

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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon SMS

2009-12-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

try telepho...@vzwpix.com

The first one is the standard for SMS the one I am giving you now is 
for MMS messages.


the first one I know works.  send one to me at sangr...@vtext.com and 
I will let you know I got it.


It is possible he is ignoring it, or does not recognize the tone it 
sets off, but if he is doing SMS with his family it should work.


Are you on the In Network?

Stewart



At 11:02 PM 12/24/2009, you wrote:

I've tried that. They claim to have not gotten it. I'm confused.
They're Luddites, is it possible they're getting it and just don't
know it?


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[CGUYS] AAAHH, the old days

2009-12-24 Thread DRG
Our first computer was an Apple II which we upgraded to 64k of ram and  
added an '80 column patch. Had twin (external) 5 1/4" floppy drives  
and also could write to cassette tape. This was a few years before the  
Macintosh and long before Windows.


By the way, we Still have the Apple II.

donald

Radio is the theater of the mind; television is the theater
of the mindless.
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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon SMS

2009-12-24 Thread Tony B
I've tried that. They claim to have not gotten it. I'm confused.
They're Luddites, is it possible they're getting it and just don't
know it?


On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
 wrote:
> telephone num...@vtext.com
>
> Stewart
>
>
> At 09:21 PM 12/24/2009, you wrote:
>>
>> My boss has a Verizon cell phone and I would love to send him an
>> email. He texts within his family all the time, but doesn't understand
>> the concept of email. My few attempts at test emails, using addys I've
>> found on web searches, have been ineffective.
>>
>> So. Can someone with a Verizon plan please tell me what the *current*
>> Verizon SMS addys are?


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon SMS

2009-12-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

telephone num...@vtext.com

Stewart


At 09:21 PM 12/24/2009, you wrote:

My boss has a Verizon cell phone and I would love to send him an
email. He texts within his family all the time, but doesn't understand
the concept of email. My few attempts at test emails, using addys I've
found on web searches, have been ineffective.

So. Can someone with a Verizon plan please tell me what the *current*
Verizon SMS addys are?


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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread mike
I've used these to fix the MBR more than once on vista...the windows rescue
disk is useless in most cases.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> Spoken like someone that has never heard of Windows XP, or all
> subsequent versions of Windows. Do you still have a floppy drive in
> your computer? :)
> http://tinyurl.com/ot3wc
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:01 PM, John DeCarlo 
> wrote:
> > I beg to differ,
> >
> > "fdisk /mbr" is still used all the time to fix the Master Boot Record.
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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread mike
I'd like to see the benchmarks, anything that works better is better.  I
just don't see how a single drive can keep up with hundreds and hundreds of
users hitting the drive compared to RAID.  Also to note is cost, there may
be better things than RAID that cost 10x as much...so RAID is the answer
until the cost can be justified.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> On Dec 24, 2009, at 9:59 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
>
>> And please don't use "enterprise" as if it were an example of good
>> engineering.  I work at the enterprise level and have for years and I see
>> more stupid things done by big enterprises with big IT staffs than in most
>> SMBs.  So many people there want to use the "old, reliable" methods.  Even
>> when it no longer makes much sense.
>>
>
> Thank you. The point is that one has to keep up with technology. Last years
> answer is last years answer. Or in the case of RAID, that's s 1999.
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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is the one I was looking for thank you Tom.  (I could not 
remember the name of it.)


The ultimate Boot disk is FREE for download.

It includes all the wonderful utilities I was talking about.

Download it and use it.

Stewart


At 07:25 PM 12/24/2009, you wrote:


Yes it would. Scroll back on this thread to where I posted about the
Ultimate Boot Disk. I has lots of malware fighting tools including a
DOS command line.

Or you can keep pissing and moaning with the "it can't be done" crowd.


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 24, 2009, at 9:59 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:

And please don't use "enterprise" as if it were an example of good
engineering.  I work at the enterprise level and have for years and  
I see
more stupid things done by big enterprises with big IT staffs than  
in most
SMBs.  So many people there want to use the "old, reliable"  
methods.  Even

when it no longer makes much sense.


Thank you. The point is that one has to keep up with technology. Last  
years answer is last years answer. Or in the case of RAID, that's  
s 1999.



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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Tony B
Spoken like someone that has never heard of Windows XP, or all
subsequent versions of Windows. Do you still have a floppy drive in
your computer? :)
http://tinyurl.com/ot3wc


On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:01 PM, John DeCarlo  wrote:
> I beg to differ,
>
> "fdisk /mbr" is still used all the time to fix the Master Boot Record.


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[CGUYS] Verizon SMS

2009-12-24 Thread Tony B
My boss has a Verizon cell phone and I would love to send him an
email. He texts within his family all the time, but doesn't understand
the concept of email. My few attempts at test emails, using addys I've
found on web searches, have been ineffective.

So. Can someone with a Verizon plan please tell me what the *current*
Verizon SMS addys are?


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread John DeCarlo
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:18 PM, mike  wrote:

> Like I said, you've never had to work in enterprise level areas.  You need
> a
> LOT of I/O when 300 users are all hitting the same sql database, reading
> and
> writing to it all at once.  A hard drive?  The network would grind to a
> halt
> and no work would get done.
>
> Except that modern benchmarks don't show any appreciable performance
improvement from RAID.  Maybe 1-3%.

It used to be a huge difference when hard drives were slower and more
expensive.

And please don't use "enterprise" as if it were an example of good
engineering.  I work at the enterprise level and have for years and I see
more stupid things done by big enterprises with big IT staffs than in most
SMBs.  So many people there want to use the "old, reliable" methods.  Even
when it no longer makes much sense.

Remember when this first came up?

It was mostly because organizations like Google and Amazon (cloud, EC2,
etc.) can't afford to use RAID any more.  Too expensive, too unreliable, too
many failures, and not much benefit, even potentially.

Enterprises can certainly afford to do their own benchmarks.  Have your
enterprise done one lately?

In fact, if you want high availability and high performance, you are either
massively redundant, like Google, or not even having hard drives in every
machine.  Too much work to replace a machine with a hard drive in it with
little benefit.

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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread John DeCarlo
I beg to differ,

"fdisk /mbr" is still used all the time to fix the Master Boot Record.

I agree when it comes to doing disk partitioning - few would rely on fdisk
for that any more.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> Fdisk was rendered unneeded long ago. Since WinXP (or maybe Win2k?)
> the Windows install routine allows you to do all the partitioning you
> want. Without floppies or a floppy drive. A bit cumbersome, but it
> does the job.
>
> Gail, I hope you're ignoring 90% of what you're reading here. They're
> agonizing over old and nonexistant problems. Just reinstall the OS,
> doing a full format if it makes you feel better.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:
> > On Dec 23, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
> >>
> >> The old utility Fdisk would really come in handy here.  He has to wipe
> out
> >> all partitions, seen and unseen (that is why Fdisk) to get rid of this
> >> monster.
> >
> > Yes it would. Scroll back on this thread to where I posted about the
> > Ultimate Boot Disk. I has lots of malware fighting tools including a DOS
> > command line.
>

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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Tony B
Fdisk was rendered unneeded long ago. Since WinXP (or maybe Win2k?)
the Windows install routine allows you to do all the partitioning you
want. Without floppies or a floppy drive. A bit cumbersome, but it
does the job.

Gail, I hope you're ignoring 90% of what you're reading here. They're
agonizing over old and nonexistant problems. Just reinstall the OS,
doing a full format if it makes you feel better.


On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
>>
>> The old utility Fdisk would really come in handy here.  He has to wipe out
>> all partitions, seen and unseen (that is why Fdisk) to get rid of this
>> monster.
>
> Yes it would. Scroll back on this thread to where I posted about the
> Ultimate Boot Disk. I has lots of malware fighting tools including a DOS
> command line.


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Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access

2009-12-24 Thread mike
Um...it can't be...so...  That's ok. Thanks.  I'll take care of it via the
router.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:17 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> On Dec 23, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote:
>
>> You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test account with
>> Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to complete access to the
>> computer.
>>
>
> Thanks again to David for his detailed explanation. Do you find it
> frustrating that they continue to piss and moan that it can't be done?
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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 23, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
The old utility Fdisk would really come in handy here.  He has to  
wipe out all partitions, seen and unseen (that is why Fdisk) to get  
rid of this monster.


Yes it would. Scroll back on this thread to where I posted about the  
Ultimate Boot Disk. I has lots of malware fighting tools including a  
DOS command line.


Or you can keep pissing and moaning with the "it can't be done" crowd.


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread mike
Like I said, you've never had to work in enterprise level areas.  You need a
LOT of I/O when 300 users are all hitting the same sql database, reading and
writing to it all at once.  A hard drive?  The network would grind to a halt
and no work would get done.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:03 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> On Dec 24, 2009, at 5:16 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> What does the job if RAID is so bad?  What was the replacement?
>>
>
> I suggest using a hard drive. Plain and simple. 2TB drives cost little more
> than $100.
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Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 23, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote:
You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test  
account with Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to  
complete access to the computer.


Thanks again to David for his detailed explanation. Do you find it  
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Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, mike wrote:
I don't know, that's why I asked, if I can do it where is the place  
I input

the time codes for access/no access?


There's a screen for that.

Its one of the tabs under Parental Controls.


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Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:46 PM, mike wrote:
I expected this...you find the dock useful because it contains  
information

at a glance...but expecting that on the iPhone home screen is anti
apple...uh right.


One of the reasons for the failure of WINCE and the triumph of iPhone  
is that Apple was not afraid to innovate a new user interface that was  
appropriate for a different device.


The latest stats show that Apple has taken the lead as the #1 selling  
smartphone.



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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:50 PM, mike wrote:

spreading FUD though is childish.


Your faith in this old, worn out technology is touching, but handing  
out bad advice is reprehensible.


We used RAID back long ago when we had to. In the old days when drives  
were slow and small. It was never a reliable technology, but we put up  
with it because we had to. Today when I can get a 2TB drive for little  
more than $100, using RAID is just silly.



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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 24, 2009, at 5:16 PM, mike wrote:

What does the job if RAID is so bad?  What was the replacement?


I suggest using a hard drive. Plain and simple. 2TB drives cost little  
more than $100.



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Re: [CGUYS] Upgrade Plan was Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-24 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:08 PM, John H. Davis wrote:
I heard 10.5 no longer supports iphoto, anyone see other problem  
spots?


You heard wrong.

That is a way out claim. I would not trust that source again.


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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :


Reid these are designed to be destructive, not money making.

They are made to do as much damage and as much inconvenience as
possible. They are done for fun.


I know, but you'd think they write the virus to hang out and spread  
itself for a while before killing its host.



The ones to make money seem to be much easier to take care of and fix.


Ironical. Isn't it. Those are the ones you'd think would want to hide  
in all the good hiding places.



Such is the humor of some folks who "just want to have fun."


Maybe they could get into the artificial intelligence field. (-:


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread mike
What does the job if RAID is so bad?  What was the replacement?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> Or maybe because nobody can understand the question? :)
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM, mike  wrote:
> > I've been
> > waiting...months?  A year?  for the answer about what does what RAID does
> to
> > replace it if it's so bad?  Still no answer.  I suspect because there is
> > none.
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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread Tony B
Or maybe because nobody can understand the question? :)

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM, mike  wrote:
> I've been
> waiting...months?  A year?  for the answer about what does what RAID does to
> replace it if it's so bad?  Still no answer.  I suspect because there is
> none.


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Re: [CGUYS] AAAHH, the old days

2009-12-24 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rosenberg, Alan [USA]
> The old days??

> The old days were when an IBM 7094 (the powerhouse of
> its day) filled a room with a raised floor, dedicated
> air conditioning, and a crew of operators, cost
> megabucks to buy (or lease) and maintain, had a cycle
> time measured in microseconds, and a maximum memory
> capacity equivalent to 32KB.

My first system was a PDP-11/40 with a max memory of 124kw
(248kbytes, 8kbytes were devoted to I/O and CSR) with a
66mb disk drive and a tape drive - that was in 1979...

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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Reid these are designed to be destructive, not money making.

They are made to do as much damage and as much inconvenience as 
possible. They are done for fun.


This is what is so frustrating about them.

The ones to make money seem to be much easier to take care of and fix.

Such is the humor of some folks who "just want to have fun."

Stewart


At 10:50 AM 12/24/2009, you wrote:

Absolutely. What I don't understand is, if you're trying to infect as
many computers as possible, why would you write a virus that so screws
up a computer that the victim is *sure* to take action. . .and
quickly, as in the case of Gail and her son. I'd think you'd want to
be more subtle.


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread mike
It's fine if you are afraid of stuff like this, spreading FUD though is
childish.  Funny how nowhere in that little story they mentioned the part
where they were stupid and weren't backing up.  As in, if they knew what
they were doing, they wouldn't be in this mess.  I've been
waiting...months?  A year?  for the answer about what does what RAID does to
replace it if it's so bad?  Still no answer.  I suspect because there is
none.  First you'd have to know what RAID is for, you've never done hardware
for an enterprise environment so it's not something you are familiar with,
that's ok, but why keep talking about it?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:35 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 24, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> Good story of people who are clueless...too bad for these idiots.  People
>> who don't know what RAID is for, shouldn't be using it, they might hurt
>> themselves.
>>
>
> If we move around a few of your words it will make more sense: "People who
> know what they are doing don't use RAID."
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Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread mike
I expected this...you find the dock useful because it contains information
at a glance...but expecting that on the iPhone home screen is anti
apple...uh right.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:03 PM, db wrote:
>
>> Or they might just stick with their home screen like they have stuck with
>> OSX's surprisingly limited functionality finder/dock system for such a long
>> time  ...
>>
>
> As I said "I had to conclude that your goal was something other than
> solving a problem." Just more anti-Apple agitprop.
>
> Nevertheless...
> "In the September frame, the company sold 3.05 million Macs, helping its
> profits rise to $1.67 billion. That was a 17 percent year-over-year increase
> in sales."
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/14/fall_mac_shipments_up_21_sales_of_3m_projected_for_quarter.html
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Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access

2009-12-24 Thread mike
What are you talking about?

I don't know, that's why I asked, if I can do it where is the place I input
the time codes for access/no access?



On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:17 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> Precisely right. I would only add that fast user switching can be used to
> quickly flip between the two accounts.
>
> Unfortunately the pissing and moaning "you can't do it" crowd took over the
> topic.
>
> BTW, I'm surprised that a Mac owner would be interested in such regressive
> parenting methods.
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:58 AM, David K Watson wrote:
>
>> As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has
>> parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific
>> applications, but not time for particular applications.  However, your
>> friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but
>> not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet
>> applications on the other account.  On the full time account, he
>> can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while
>> allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example.  There is also a
>> logging feature which he might find useful.
>>
>> This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that
>> have been proposed.
>>
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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS?

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa

On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Robert Carroll wrote:

I remember when memory was $450 per MB.


Heck, I remember when memory was $1 per BYTE.


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa

On Dec 24, 2009, at 1:16 PM, mike wrote:
Good story of people who are clueless...too bad for these idiots.   
People
who don't know what RAID is for, shouldn't be using it, they might  
hurt

themselves.


If we move around a few of your words it will make more sense: "People  
who know what they are doing don't use RAID."



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Re: [CGUYS] Docks and information Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation]

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa

On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:03 PM, db wrote:
Or they might just stick with their home screen like they have stuck  
with OSX's surprisingly limited functionality finder/dock system for  
such a long time  ...


As I said "I had to conclude that your goal was something other than  
solving a problem." Just more anti-Apple agitprop.


Nevertheless...
"In the September frame, the company sold 3.05 million Macs, helping  
its profits rise to $1.67 billion. That was a 17 percent year-over- 
year increase in sales."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/14/fall_mac_shipments_up_21_sales_of_3m_projected_for_quarter.html


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Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa
Precisely right. I would only add that fast user switching can be used  
to quickly flip between the two accounts.


Unfortunately the pissing and moaning "you can't do it" crowd took  
over the topic.


BTW, I'm surprised that a Mac owner would be interested in such  
regressive parenting methods.


On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:58 AM, David K Watson wrote:

As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has
parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific
applications, but not time for particular applications.  However, your
friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but
not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet
applications on the other account.  On the full time account, he
can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while
allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example.  There is also a
logging feature which he might find useful.

This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that
have been proposed.



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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread mike
Good story of people who are clueless...too bad for these idiots.  People
who don't know what RAID is for, shouldn't be using it, they might hurt
themselves.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> Here is a tale of woe recently posted at Macintouch...
>
> "After a few months one of our units reset itself wiping the entire RAID5.
> The file data is still there, you just cannot access it since the index is
> corrupted. We now have a data recovery service working on this - the cost is
> well over 6 times the cost of the box plus drives. Yesterday another one
> failed exactly the same way - the system simply resets the RAID. Thecus [the
> RAID vendor] blame WD drive firmware, and after we contacted them they
> removed the WD20EADS from their drive compatibility list. The problem seems
> to be a conflict between the NAS software and the WD drive firmware, but it
> is difficult to say who is to blame. We use the same WD20EADS drives in Mac
> Pros and have no problems with them at all. This raises the question, what
> kind of testing do Thecus do? It looks like they rely on user feedback for
> their drive compatibility list, and don't extensively test themselves."
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[CGUYS] RAID Revisited

2009-12-24 Thread tjpa

Here is a tale of woe recently posted at Macintouch...

"After a few months one of our units reset itself wiping the entire  
RAID5. The file data is still there, you just cannot access it since  
the index is corrupted. We now have a data recovery service working on  
this - the cost is well over 6 times the cost of the box plus drives.  
Yesterday another one failed exactly the same way - the system simply  
resets the RAID. Thecus [the RAID vendor] blame WD drive firmware, and  
after we contacted them they removed the WD20EADS from their drive  
compatibility list. The problem seems to be a conflict between the NAS  
software and the WD drive firmware, but it is difficult to say who is  
to blame. We use the same WD20EADS drives in Mac Pros and have no  
problems with them at all. This raises the question, what kind of  
testing do Thecus do? It looks like they rely on user feedback for  
their drive compatibility list, and don't extensively test themselves."



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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :


You must boot to a outside source to gain control of the HD back as it
will never show itself unless you do this.

What some people do for fun huh?


Absolutely. What I don't understand is, if you're trying to infect as  
many computers as possible, why would you write a virus that so screws  
up a computer that the victim is *sure* to take action. . .and  
quickly, as in the case of Gail and her son. I'd think you'd want to  
be more subtle.



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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

If you have a BIOS infection you have really messed up.

However these Partition malware's are quite easy.

You download it, usually it is an EXE file, you run it.  Nothing 
happens computer will probably lock up, you reboot to start a fresh 
and viola, the system starts to make its own partition and infect 
whatever.  (It usually will pop up, doing the windows chkdsk routine 
checking the integrity of your disk, which is of course a cover for 
it writing itself a partition.)


You must boot to a outside source to gain control of the HD back as 
it will never show itself unless you do this.


What some people do for fun huh?

Stewart

At 07:43 AM 12/24/2009, you wrote:
I'm guessing if you've got a BIOS virus, you can still get enough

control to boot off a CD, but if the virus is *already* in control,
couldn't it just take over the BIOS update process and re-infect?

My P-III has a setting in the BIOS to turn on BIOS virus protection.
Essentially a warning that something is trying to write to the BIOS
(or was that the CMOS?).


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Re: [CGUYS] AAAHH, the old days

2009-12-24 Thread Rosenberg, Alan [USA]
The old days??

The old days were when an IBM 7094 (the powerhouse of its day) filled a room 
with a raised floor, dedicated air conditioning, and a crew of operators, cost 
megabucks to buy (or lease) and maintain, had a cycle time measured in 
microseconds, and a maximum memory capacity equivalent to 32KB.

Alan


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Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS? AGAIN

2009-12-24 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting Stewart Marshall :


For BIOS virus download from Dell their updated BIOS and load it.  Have fun.


I'm guessing if you've got a BIOS virus, you can still get enough  
control to boot off a CD, but if the virus is *already* in control,  
couldn't it just take over the BIOS update process and re-infect?


My P-III has a setting in the BIOS to turn on BIOS virus protection.  
Essentially a warning that something is trying to write to the BIOS  
(or was that the CMOS?).



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Re: [CGUYS] Upgrade Plan was Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-24 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting "John H. Davis" :


   I heard 10.5 no longer supports iphoto, anyone see other problem spots?


I have X.5.8 on my Mini and it came with iPhoto. I think it was X.5.4  
out of the box. Only used it once, but it seems like it worked okay.



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