Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-25 Thread Matthew Taylor
I can speak to the effectiveness and ease of use of Astaro as recently as a year ago. I used it for years under its free educational license as the firewall at my prior job, and it worked very, very, well. Matthew On Sep 22, 2007, at 7:27 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: If you have an old

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-23 Thread John DeCarlo
I couldn't tell from web sites what the Apple routers can do. My Netgear MIMO allows me to schedule when blocking occurs and to use patterns for blocking (like runescape, or even rune to block runescape.com and rune-hq.com). I would think that if you couldn't find it via the web configuration

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
I wouldn't use the service to block anything from children or anyone else [I don't like any kind of censorship], but am noting that the feature is available. Use it judiciously. It is interesting to see them try to innovate the old DNS concept. In addition to blocking they also provide

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-22 Thread Jim
My original intent was to control the time a site would be available. Not to pretend it does not exist. Not particularly interested in censorship. Just moderating any particular sites availability. Soon as I get a chance I'll see if OpenDNS will fit the bill. I will admit to pulling

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread mike
Can anyone with a apple router tell him how to block the site? Unless there is no one here that has one? Mike On 9/20/07, Matthew Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple Router, not that I know of.A firewall, absolutely. That said, OS X has parental controls built in - you can allow only

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread Jay Montero
Years ago, when my kids were younger, I too needed a way to control their surfing online. What I did was I built my own firewall using an older unused computer and a free Linux software product called Smoothwall. I have since moved on to a similar product called IPCop. Whichever you choose,

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Can anyone with a apple router tell him how to block the site? Unless there is no one here that has one? You mean give a poor answer just to pacify him so he goes away? I think he would have to pay more money to get that level of support.

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread b_s-wilk
I appreciate the time and effort you put into helping me resolve the parenting aspect of my problem. The circular logic of your last two sentences escapes me however. There's a difference between a lockdown and guidance. When you're around to provide encouragement and rewards for doing

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread mike
A router between the airport and the broadband? I thought the airport WAS the router?? The thing costs almost 200 dollars what does it do? Why have the airport there at all if he can spend 70 bux on a good router? Is that why no one will answer his question? Is the airport so hamstrung you

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread b_s-wilk
State of Delaware schools use Blue Coat, http://www.bluecoat.com/. Try their free K9 home version, http://www.k9webprotection.com/. It uses a web-based database. Unless your kids are fairly young, they'll get around it soon. Best thing about it -- it's free. Platform: Windows. FAQ claims that

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Thanks for the link to OpenDNS. It looks very interesting. Interesting to note that one of the categories of sites blocked are sites that provide information about proxy servers. You can check URLs to see if they are blocked. I'm glad to see that Reporters Without Borders (rsf.org)

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-21 Thread b_s-wilk
Betty, Thanks for the link to OpenDNS. It looks very interesting. Jim A few weeks ago I requested DNS services that work better than the ones I'm using. Thank Fred Holmes and John de Carlo, since they suggested OpenDNS to me on the list first, recently anyway. I wouldn't use the

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-20 Thread Michel Lowe
-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access What's the point? There's nothing you can block your kids from seeing that they can't see somewhere else. Guaranteed that they have at least one friend, most likely many, whose computer isn't blocked. Set your default

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-20 Thread b_s-wilk
See my 12:29 post earlier in the day. The issue is homework. The sex is inevitable and will take care of itself. College entry is not inevitable. I'd like the option of blocking RuneScape and the like until the homework is done. Why not block access completely until homework is done, and

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-20 Thread Jim
I appreciate the time and effort you put into helping me resolve the parenting aspect of my problem. The circular logic of your last two sentences escapes me however. Perhaps I initially asked the wrong question. Or, more likely, needlessly gave voice to incorrect assumptions about the

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-19 Thread Jim
I want to be able to control access to certain web sites my kids may have occasion to visit. I have seen it done using a Linksys router but have been unable to duplicate this with my Apple router. Am using OSX 10.4+ Apple Airport router (not the new Extreme model) Any ideas? Thanks, jim

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-19 Thread mike
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access I want to be able to control access to certain web sites my kids may have occasion to visit. I have seen it done using a Linksys router but have been unable to duplicate this with my Apple router. Am using OSX 10.4+ Apple Airport router

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1 www.lots-o-porn.com would deny access to the web site, but not if the kid new the actual ip address Kids typically set up proxy servers to get around blocks. It is probably more effective to explain to the kids that

Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access

2007-09-19 Thread Jim
Thanks for the input. Our issue here is too much time on the likes of Runescape and not enough on homework! Guess it is back the the heavy handed approach. On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1