Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I can speak to the effectiveness and ease of use of Astaro as recently as a year ago. I used it for years under its free educational license as the firewall at my prior job, and it worked very, very, well. Matthew On Sep 22, 2007, at 7:27 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: If you have an old PC laying around- Pentium II or higher you can have a free firewall that can block sites, viruses, spam, and other bad stuff. Information on the free home licence for Astaro is at http://astaro.com/en/solutions/our_products/ astaro_security_gateway/home_use_licence. They sell router sized boxes that do the same thing but you can use the software free on a junk computer that you put between the incoming network cable and your router. The deal is you site reports information to their data collection service for getting the software free and updates. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I couldn't tell from web sites what the Apple routers can do. My Netgear MIMO allows me to schedule when blocking occurs and to use patterns for blocking (like runescape, or even rune to block runescape.com and rune-hq.com). I would think that if you couldn't find it via the web configuration interface, it probably isn't there. On 9/22/07, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original intent was to control the time a site would be available. Not to pretend it does not exist. Not particularly interested in censorship. Just moderating any particular sites availability. Soon as I get a chance I'll see if OpenDNS will fit the bill. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I wouldn't use the service to block anything from children or anyone else [I don't like any kind of censorship], but am noting that the feature is available. Use it judiciously. It is interesting to see them try to innovate the old DNS concept. In addition to blocking they also provide statistics about internet usage by tabulating requests by IP address. While I'm impressed, I wonder what use such data could be put to. Can anyone here suggest how such information could be put to practical use? As for the blocking, SaaS is a much better way to provide this. Everything is centrally managed. There is no need to install or maintain any software on the client computer. It is also harder to bypass if you can lock down the DNS address. Of course, a proxy server still steps around this easily. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
My original intent was to control the time a site would be available. Not to pretend it does not exist. Not particularly interested in censorship. Just moderating any particular sites availability. Soon as I get a chance I'll see if OpenDNS will fit the bill. I will admit to pulling the plug on the network when the kids have sleep overs. And Thank you, John and Fred Jim On Sep 22, 2007, at 12:38 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Betty, Thanks for the link to OpenDNS. It looks very interesting. Jim A few weeks ago I requested DNS services that work better than the ones I'm using. Thank Fred Holmes and John de Carlo, since they suggested OpenDNS to me on the list first, recently anyway. I wouldn't use the service to block anything from children or anyone else [I don't like any kind of censorship], but am noting that the feature is available. Use it judiciously. Betty ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
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Can anyone with a apple router tell him how to block the site? Unless there is no one here that has one? Mike On 9/20/07, Matthew Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple Router, not that I know of.A firewall, absolutely. That said, OS X has parental controls built in - you can allow only those web sites you want allowed in. If you want to restrict only certain websites, you want a firewall type device. Matthew On Sep 20, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Jim wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to control access to particular web sites using an Apple router? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
Years ago, when my kids were younger, I too needed a way to control their surfing online. What I did was I built my own firewall using an older unused computer and a free Linux software product called Smoothwall. I have since moved on to a similar product called IPCop. Whichever you choose, both allow you to place all kinds of limits on user access. Be forewarned however, there is a bit of a learning curve involved. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
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Can anyone with a apple router tell him how to block the site? Unless there is no one here that has one? You mean give a poor answer just to pacify him so he goes away? I think he would have to pay more money to get that level of support. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I appreciate the time and effort you put into helping me resolve the parenting aspect of my problem. The circular logic of your last two sentences escapes me however. There's a difference between a lockdown and guidance. When you're around to provide encouragement and rewards for doing homework and not getting distracted by inappropriate sites, that's learning, not policing. There are commercial programs that schools use to block sites. They don't work in high schools. Students learn [they're learning something!] how to circumvent the software. If your kid doesn't figure out how to do this, friends will show how or do it for him. Instead of relying on the airport directly, can you put a router between the airport and broadband connection? Routers are cheap. A Linksys router might do what you want initially, but, of course, there are ways to get around the controls. Be glad that the problem isn't IM. AIM searches for alternate ports if you close the port it uses. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
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A router between the airport and the broadband? I thought the airport WAS the router?? The thing costs almost 200 dollars what does it do? Why have the airport there at all if he can spend 70 bux on a good router? Is that why no one will answer his question? Is the airport so hamstrung you can't do what he's asking? Couldn't someone have said that posts and posts ago? Mike On 9/21/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of relying on the airport directly, can you put a router between the airport and broadband connection? Routers are cheap. A Linksys router might do what you want initially, but, of course, there are ways to get around the controls. Be glad that the problem isn't IM. AIM searches for alternate ports if you close the port it uses. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
State of Delaware schools use Blue Coat, http://www.bluecoat.com/. Try their free K9 home version, http://www.k9webprotection.com/. It uses a web-based database. Unless your kids are fairly young, they'll get around it soon. Best thing about it -- it's free. Platform: Windows. FAQ claims that a Mac version will be available late in 2007--maybe. Can't OpenDNS http://www.opendns.com/ also do this [better]? Have children figured out how to get around this too? Create an OpenDNS account and try their controls. Use secure alphanumeric passwords on your router/modem/airport. Then talk to the kids and explain what you're doing, but not how to do it. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
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Thanks for the link to OpenDNS. It looks very interesting. Interesting to note that one of the categories of sites blocked are sites that provide information about proxy servers. You can check URLs to see if they are blocked. I'm glad to see that Reporters Without Borders (rsf.org) and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff.org) are not blocked (yet) even though they have a lot of information about proxey servers. They should add a category for sites by sociopaths. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
Betty, Thanks for the link to OpenDNS. It looks very interesting. Jim A few weeks ago I requested DNS services that work better than the ones I'm using. Thank Fred Holmes and John de Carlo, since they suggested OpenDNS to me on the list first, recently anyway. I wouldn't use the service to block anything from children or anyone else [I don't like any kind of censorship], but am noting that the feature is available. Use it judiciously. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
This reminds me of the one about the new dad worrying about his young kids finding his nudie mags hidden in the sock drawer. You can't hide anything from the kids. They will pilfer, investigate, and explore every place you can imagine hiding stuff -- they WILL find it. I guess the 21st Century version of this is the Internet. The kids will get around every filter or block you put up, either on their own computer, your computer, their friend's computer, or even the public library computer. Hell, I just discovered I've got hotel room porn on my Comcast. All I can do is yell at them AFTER they've viewed it some time when I'm away. -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:02 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access What's the point? There's nothing you can block your kids from seeing that they can't see somewhere else. Guaranteed that they have at least one friend, most likely many, whose computer isn't blocked. Set your default search engines to filter offensive sites. The kids will see anything they want. Talk to them. Don't block them. They'll be fine. What are you afraid of? How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1 www.lots-o-porn.com would deny access to the web site, but not if the kid new the actual ip address Kids typically set up proxy servers to get around blocks. It is probably more effective to explain to the kids that both your firewall router and the ISP keeps a log of all the sites they visit and that you can easily check what they have been doing on the Internet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
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See my 12:29 post earlier in the day. The issue is homework. The sex is inevitable and will take care of itself. College entry is not inevitable. I'd like the option of blocking RuneScape and the like until the homework is done. Why not block access completely until homework is done, and put the computer in a location where you can see it, especially if online research is necessary. Give him his own ID and you keep the password. No homework, no password. When my son was in high school, taking a programming course, I locked him out almost entirely. The only thing he saw when he logged in was his compiler. I told him that when he wrote a program to bypass it, he'd have full access. Took about 2 weeks. Then he was back online, but with OUR restrictions. Kids need to learn that self-control is more effective in the long run than policing. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I appreciate the time and effort you put into helping me resolve the parenting aspect of my problem. The circular logic of your last two sentences escapes me however. Perhaps I initially asked the wrong question. Or, more likely, needlessly gave voice to incorrect assumptions about the need of my query. To reiterate - Does anyone know if it is possible to control access to particular web sites using an Apple router? I don't mind sharing why but why is too easy to get side tracked into that. It is the kind of question that everyone with an opinion on is right about...in their view. I respect others approach to the parenting aspect of the question but in this forum I am really much more interested in the technical part of the question. This past summer I ran across an online tutorial on this subject (being control of web access as an alternative to an outright ban) where the author used a Linkksys router as an example. The routers setup page was very Windows centric. I just mean that there were a myriad number of obvious and not so obvious choices and options to be made. Quite unlike a lot of Apples software where many of the choices seem to be predetermined for your best interest. Most of the time it is a pleasure to just be able to get the work done without (being forced to) indulging my curious side exploring the intricacies of a piece of software. I haven't been able to find an answer on Apples support pages. Maybe I could just switch to the Linksys router but I thought it might be more interesting to first see if anyone else here had experienced the desire to have this kind of control over the home network and solved the question using the hardware I already have. I can always go back to more draconian methods. I just see the measured access control as a method of time management. Which is an issue in the short run with regard to getting homework done. Thanks for your help. See my 12:29 post earlier in the day. The issue is homework. The sex is inevitable and will take care of itself. College entry is not inevitable. I'd like the option of blocking RuneScape and the like until the homework is done. Why not block access completely until homework is done, and put the computer in a location where you can see it, especially if online research is necessary. Give him his own ID and you keep the password. No homework, no password. When my son was in high school, taking a programming course, I locked him out almost entirely. The only thing he saw when he logged in was his compiler. I told him that when he wrote a program to bypass it, he'd have full access. Took about 2 weeks. Then he was back online, but with OUR restrictions. Kids need to learn that self-control is more effective in the long run than policing. ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
I want to be able to control access to certain web sites my kids may have occasion to visit. I have seen it done using a Linksys router but have been unable to duplicate this with my Apple router. Am using OSX 10.4+ Apple Airport router (not the new Extreme model) Any ideas? Thanks, jim * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
You should probably look at software to monitor where they are going, you can put in one IP and they will find another and another. Mike On 9/19/07, John Mealey III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1 www.lots-o-porn.com would deny access to the web site, but not if the kid new the actual ip address. John -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:28 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access I want to be able to control access to certain web sites my kids may have occasion to visit. I have seen it done using a Linksys router but have been unable to duplicate this with my Apple router. Am using OSX 10.4+ Apple Airport router (not the new Extreme model) Any ideas? Thanks, jim * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1 www.lots-o-porn.com would deny access to the web site, but not if the kid new the actual ip address Kids typically set up proxy servers to get around blocks. It is probably more effective to explain to the kids that both your firewall router and the ISP keeps a log of all the sites they visit and that you can easily check what they have been doing on the Internet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] controlling IP address access
Thanks for the input. Our issue here is too much time on the likes of Runescape and not enough on homework! Guess it is back the the heavy handed approach. On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: How smart are the kids? Putting the address in the hosts file like 127.0.0.1 www.lots-o-porn.com would deny access to the web site, but not if the kid new the actual ip address Kids typically set up proxy servers to get around blocks. It is probably more effective to explain to the kids that both your firewall router and the ISP keeps a log of all the sites they visit and that you can easily check what they have been doing on the Internet. ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
