Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Every Name Index - FULLY COMPLETED

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Thanks so much to everyone involved. This is truly the best group I have
ever joined - so helpful and congenial. Everyone take a bow!

Kathleen

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:43 PM Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> A small but dedicated, hard-working band of volunteers came forward to
> help us create the Every Name Index of almost *295,000 names* in record
> time!On behalf of the thousands of CoTyroneIreland.com users, we wish to
> permanently acknowledge these generous people -
> *Gordon Wilkinson*
> *Barb Coulter*
> *Kim Carson*
> *Pat H*
> *Ed McGeehan*
> *Mary Jarvis*
> *Lindsay Graham*
> *Mary Purchase*
> *Bonnie Jordan*
> *Liona Harris*
> *Jacque Newman*
>
> This was a HUGE task but seeing the extremely high volume of use the Index
> receives it was well-worth the effort.
> Without such dedicated people, CTI would not survive!
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> Best regards
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Emigration to New Zealand

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

My grandfather was also from Omagh, but I found him in Abbeyleix, Queen’s
County, Ireland on the 1901 census. Apparently he worked there for some
time (to earn his passage money?). He went from there to Cape Town, South
Africa. Within a year he was on the move again - to New York! My
grandmother was waiting for him in Philadelphia, where they were married.

OTOH, some of my relatives went straight to NZ and Australia via Liverpool.

Just saying, follow the clues you find and be ready for surprises, since
everything is not always straightforward!

Kathleen

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 2:27 PM Joseph McNulty via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> My great great uncle emigrated to New Zealand in about 1880 from Brackey a
> townland  near Omagh County tyrone.  Where would he have sailed from in
> ireland?  Did ships leave from Ireland for New Zealand or would they go to
> Australia first and then to New zealand.  I had been told he had emigrated
> to Australia but have found he was living in New Zealand. Thanks Roberta
> McNulty
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Alexander Hanlin (Hanlon)

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Not sure about thatched roofs - though the Folk Park is a walk back in
time.

As for burials, have you found the book, "Tombstones of the Omey" yet?  I
have a copy and will look through it and see what I can find.

There is always Findagrave and BillionGraves online, and other independent
sites - google Tyrone burials or cemeteries and other terms. There are
several Facebook groups for the area that have members who still live in
the area and will help if they can. Have you searched for other people with
the surname researching their family history?

Also search the online book sites, some of the old books mention families.
Search for family histories. Do you belong to NIFHS? They have a library in
Belfast - their website lists the hours you can visit and members can go
out of hours. You should join and register your surname interest in any
event. NIFHS.org

PRONI holds family papers, old wills, property records etc. - if you are
lucky enough to find your family mentioned. You really need to dig. I was
fortunate enough to find a bundle of letters relating to a branch of my
family - a poor woman's letters pleading with a solicitor to finalize her
son's very small estate.

They also have estate records that sometimes mention farmers and their
leases - an example is the famous Abercorn Letters collection.

Once you get going, there are countless ways to go at the problem. The best
thing I've found, though, is talking to people who know the area, either
online or in person.

Look at the travel sites for different attractions in the area. The
Glenelly Valley is a lovely area, as well as the Sperrin Mountains.

I would forget about Armagh UNTIL you have a link that leads you there. You
have Omagh - work it!

These are just tips off the top of my head. I've been researching from
California for 20-odd years, but lucky enough to visit twice. I spent a
week at PRONI in April and visited with cousins 1 day each - I wish I had
done it the other way around.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 2:13 PM Sue Worachek via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Thanks for replying, Kathleen. Where would I search for online burial
> information?
>
> I looked at the catalogue for PRONI and only found a handful of churches
> that would cover that time period (1741-1791). Does PRONI have other
> records besides church records?
>
> So…since the records for Alexander Hanlin show that he was born, married,
> and died in Omagh, County Tyrone…that would mean he was in Omagh, correct?
> The part that confuses me is that the O’Hanlon’s in the 1600’s seem to be
> pretty prominant in Armagh. I am guessing that maybe Alexander and his
> family may have moved from Armagh to Omagh…
>
> What area is particularly beautiful and quaint? Are there towns that still
> have thatched roof houses?
>
> Sue
>
> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:54 PM, K Cooper via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> Ditto what Dave said. And BEFORE you go to PRONI - meaning today - become
> familiar with the catalogue and what might be available both on film and
> physically in their collection. You will be overwhelmed if you don't and
> leave disappointed.
>
> Have you searched available online burial information for the area? You
> might find a place name by locating others with the same name.
>
> Omagh has never been anywhere else than Tyrone to my knowledge - you can
> find old maps that call it " Omey."
>
> If you do pin down where they lived before you go, plan on spending as
> much time as you can there. You will find that being there is worth more
> and a line of breadcrumbs might lead you hither and yon following clues.
>
> Be aware that the timeframe you are searching is very difficult, so enjoy
> the area as much as you can - it is beautiful and the people are wonderful.
>
> Kathleen
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 5:41 AM dm60--- via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sue
>>
>> Ulster Folk Park near Omagh, co. Tyrone -- highly recommended!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave Mitchell
>> Cape Town
>> South Africa
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Sue Worachek via CoTyroneList" 
>> To: cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
>> Cc: "Sue Worachek" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 02:07:39 PM
>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Alexander Hanlin (Hanlon)
>>
>> Hi,
>> We will be leaving for Ireland soon, and I would like to visit places
>> where my ancestors might have been and also gather more information. I know
>> that my line goes back to Alexander Hanlin, who was born in 1741 in Tyrone
>> County, married Nancy Stewart in 1761, had 7 children, and died in 1791.
>> His wife left in 1792 for Amer

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Alexander Hanlin (Hanlon)

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Ditto what Dave said. And BEFORE you go to PRONI - meaning today - become
familiar with the catalogue and what might be available both on film and
physically in their collection. You will be overwhelmed if you don't and
leave disappointed.

Have you searched available online burial information for the area? You
might find a place name by locating others with the same name.

Omagh has never been anywhere else than Tyrone to my knowledge - you can
find old maps that call it " Omey."

If you do pin down where they lived before you go, plan on spending as much
time as you can there. You will find that being there is worth more and a
line of breadcrumbs might lead you hither and yon following clues.

Be aware that the timeframe you are searching is very difficult, so enjoy
the area as much as you can - it is beautiful and the people are wonderful.

Kathleen

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 5:41 AM dm60--- via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Hi Sue
>
> Ulster Folk Park near Omagh, co. Tyrone -- highly recommended!
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Mitchell
> Cape Town
> South Africa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Sue Worachek via CoTyroneList" 
> To: cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
> Cc: "Sue Worachek" 
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 02:07:39 PM
> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Alexander Hanlin (Hanlon)
>
> Hi,
> We will be leaving for Ireland soon, and I would like to visit places
> where my ancestors might have been and also gather more information. I know
> that my line goes back to Alexander Hanlin, who was born in 1741 in Tyrone
> County, married Nancy Stewart in 1761, had 7 children, and died in 1791.
> His wife left in 1792 for America with all 7 children and they settled in
> Pennsylvania.
>
> I would live to find some church records, ship passenger lists, etc to
> find out more about him. I have information about the Hanlin clan that goes
> to the 1600’s, including the famous Redmon O’Hanlon, but nothing with a
> direct link to Alexander. I would love to find out who his parents were and
> exactly what part of Tyrone County he lived in and where he might have gone
> to church. I am assuming that they were Protestant, since that is what they
> were when they came to America. I am also confused about whether he was
> from Omagh or Armagh. The records say Omagh, Tyrone County, but the Hanlin
> clan I believe was from Armagh. Was Armagh in County Tyrone back then?
>
> I plan to visit PRONI when we are in Northern Ireland and possibly the
> Mellon Center for Migration Studies. Can you shed any light on where to
> find more information on Alexander Hanlin and/or on places to contact or
> visit when we are in Ireland?
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunwaist, Co Tyrone

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

I also looked around for this (being unable to resist a challenge). The
only other version I saw was Dunwest - I believe on  GENUKI. No other
information - just the one word as a location in Longfield/Langfield West.

I wonder if a query to PRONI would help?



Kathleen

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 5:28 AM dm60--- via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Thanks Len, glad you sorted that one!
>
> Dave
>
> (We can't play cricket either .  but will try this PM against your top
> draw Aussies )
>
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> *To: *d...@mweb.co.za, "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 6, 2019 01:47:14 PM
> *Subject: *RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunwaist, Co Tyrone
>
>
> Thanks Dave,
>
>
>
> Sorry to rain on anyone’s parade, but I eliminated Dunwish, Drumragh
> parish, from the equation a decade ago when transcribing the Longfield West
> tithe records. Dunwish is a fairly extensive townland of 270 acres
> containing a total of fourteen tithepayers; none of the names are recorded
> within Dunwaist in Longfield West. The tithe books record only townlands
> within a particular parish and no other; pure and simple. The guidelines
> were legislated in the parliament at Westminster.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
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> *From:* d...@mweb.co.za 
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 9:17:56 PM
> *To:* CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
> *Cc:* Len Swindley
> *Subject:* Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunwaist, Co Tyrone
>
> Hi guys
>
> There's no mention of Dunwaist (or anything like it) in the O.S. Memoirs
> Index volume.
>
> However I've been looking at William O'Kane's "Heather Peat and Stone"
> listings and maps for co.Tyrone parishes and townlands.
>
> Could this be a recording variation/transcription error for the townland
> of Dunwish (parish of Drumragh) . which is just to the east of
> Mullanatoomog, Kilmore, Gillygooly and Aghnamoyle?
>
> Didn't want it said "we done waste" a potential good source .!
>
> Best regards
>
> Dave Mitchell
> Cape Town
> South Africa
>
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> *From: *"Len Swindley via CoTyroneList" 
> *To: *"CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List"  >
> *Cc: *"Len Swindley" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:48:51 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunwaist, Co Tyrone
>
> Hello Katherine,
>
>
>
> I guess the record you have for DUNWAIST is from my transcription of the
> Longfield West Parish tithe applotment book of 1826
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/longfieldwest.html ? It is the only
> instance that I have located a mention of this place. It is not recorded in
> the c1860 Griffiths Valuation of the parish which indicates that it was a
> subdenomination; there are only five tithepayers recorded in 1826 – John
> Barton, John Bleaney, James Booth, John Booth and [?] Boyd - perhaps just a
> collection of a few fields.
>
> I recall that when transcribing the TAB quite some years ago, I felt it
> necessary to confirm my doubts by referring to an old LDS CD of indexes to
> Northern Ireland TABs and it confirmed my transcription.
>
> No further suggestions, I’m afraid (and I also referred to the c1831
> Langfield West Ordnance Memoirs, but no luck there).
>
>
>
> All good wishes for your research,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
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>
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> of Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList 
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:53:02 AM
> *To:* cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
> *Cc:* Katherine Quigley
> *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunwaist, Co Tyrone
>
> I am having the hardest time figuring out where Dunwaist is (or was). I
> found a record from Longfield West that mentioned several people from
> Dunwaist, but no trace of it on maps or other databases.
>
> Does anyone know where it is?
>
> I appreciate any help,
>
> Katherine
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Henry Hamilton

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

There are several Drumard townlands in County Tyrone, as well as Drumad:


   - Drumad
    (*Druim
   Fhada*) , Tamlaght Civil Parish, Barony of Dungannon Upper, Co. Tyrone 422
   A, 2 R, 23 P
   -
   - Drumard
   , Arboe
   Civil Parish, Barony of Dungannon Upper, Co. Tyrone 196 A, 1 R, 27 P
   - Drumard
   

(*Druim Ard*) , Derryloran (Upper Dungannon portion) Civil Parish,
   Barony of Dungannon Upper, Co. Tyrone 336 A, 0 R, 34 P
   - Drumard
   
(*Druim
   Ard*) , Tullyniskan Civil Parish, Barony of Dungannon Middle, Co. Tyrone 110
   A, 1 R, 9 P
   - Drumard Cross
   
(*Druim Ard*) , Killyman Civil Parish, Barony of Dungannon Middle, Co.
   Tyrone 51 A, 0 R, 29 P
   - Drumard Glebe
   
(*Druim Ard*) , Killyman Civil Parish, Barony of Dungannon Middle, Co.
   Tyrone 67 A, 3 R, 39 P

Have you looked at the Hamilton history (The Maymore Hamiltons and Related
Families) available online?
The Hamiltons were landowners of some repute, but they also had younger
sons who married into local farming families, my McElreas being one; I read
everything I find about them, as you never know what you'll find!

Kathleen


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:05 PM Peggy Gordon via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

>
> I have now found Henry's death record in Trumbull Co., and his age of
> death backdates to Sept 20, 1829 whereas his biography says July 29, 1829.
> At least, they agree on the year.
> Peggy
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:26:46 a.m. PDT, Jim McKane 
> wrote:
>
>
> A search of our Every Name Index shows MANY Henry Hamilton's with a number
> of Baptism records. Have you checked all of them?
>
> Regards
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:04 PM Peggy Gordon via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> According to a biography of Henry Hamilton, he was born in Drumards
> (thinking Drumads)Co. Tyrone, Ireland on July 29, 1829. He emigrated to
> USA and there he belonged to the Disciple Church so no idea what he was in
> Ireland. Can anyone suggest where I might look for his baptism? I have been
> looking for many years.
> Henry's first son was Frederick J. but no idea if he was following the
> naming pattern. Second son was Walter King Hamilton.
> thanks for any help
> Peggy Gordon
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 394, Issue 1

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Thanks, Elwin! Now I can stop wondering why my great-aunt Harriet Fulton
had the middle name of Hamilton. :-)

Kathleen

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:13 AM elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Charlotte:
>
> 
>
> Using Hamilton (or any other surname) as a middle name was/is a common
> Presbyterian custom. It could often be the mother’s maiden name but
> not always. Sometimes it was someone the family respected, eg the
> local Teacher or Minister.
>
> Elwyn
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI's New Look for Mobile Devices

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Jim,

This is great, as I do most of my reading on a tablet. Please, though,
don't restrict the zoom option as many sites have done.

Thanks for all your hard work!

Kathleen

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:13 AM Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
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> various screen sizes. So, a few weeks ago, we hired a programmer to design
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>
> However, doing so is extremely labour intensive as each page must be
> opened and converted one by one. Therefore, this task will take a long time
> as we cannot allow the adding of new content nor the Every Name Index to
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> This is an example of the new look -
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Annual Ulster Historical Foundation U.S. Lecture Tour 2019

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

I spent a week with Fintan and Gillian last October in Salt Lake City at
the British Institute by ISBGFH and cannot recommend them highly enough!

Kathleen

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:21 PM Len Swindley via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Hello Listers
>
> ULSTER HISTORICAL FOUNDATION U.S. LECTURE 2019
>
> The annual U.S. Family History lecture tour by Fintan Mullan and Gillian
> Hunt commences this week: These great events are recommended to anyone
> researching their Irish forebears. For full details of venues across the
> U.S. https://www.ancestryireland.com/
>
> Locations:
>
> 09 March - Concord, NH
> 
>
> 10 March - Philadelphia, PA
> 
>
> 11 March - Chicago, IL
> 
>
> 12 March - Madison, WI
> 
>  SOLD
> OUT
>
> 13 March - Green Bay, WI
> 
>
> 14 March - Salt Lake City, UT
> 
>
> 15 March - Salt Lake City, UT
> 
>
> 16 March - Denver, CO
> 
>
> 18 March - Pittsburgh, PA
> 
>
> 19 March - Louisville, KY
> 
>
> 20 March - Coeur d'Alene, ID
> 
>
> 22 March - Valparaiso, IN
> 
>
> 23 March - Tampa, FL
> 
>  -
> SOLD OUT
>
> 24 March - Fairfield, CT
> 
>
> 25 March - New York City, NY
> 
>
> 26 March - New York City, NY
> 
>
> The Ulster Historical Foundation, Belfast, is Ireland’s leading family
> history research organisation.
>
>
>
> Regards and success with your research,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] 100 th reg of foot tyrone

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Here you go, Kerrie. I have a US sub and was able to view it - wonder if
they put US and Canada together as North America? Bad policy IMHO!

Kathleen

Source Citation

The National Archives; Kew, Surrey, England; Class Number: WO 25; Class
Title: 99 (late 100) Foot; Piece Number: 550; Piece Title: 99 (late 100)
Foot
Source Information

Ancestry.com. Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service,
1756-1900 [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.

Original data:

War Office and predecessors: Secretary-at-War, Secretary of State for War,
and Related Bodies, Registers. WO 25/266–558, 632–634, 677–683, 686–688,
3913–3914, 5411-5516. Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed
Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies. The National Archives,
Kew, Surrey, England.

Description

Foot soldiers, dragoons, engineers, and the Royal Canadian Rifles—they’re
all here in more than 100 years’ worth of Canadian regimental records. Learn
more... 




On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:02 PM Kerrie via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron
>
> Could you post the complete title please?  Ancestry wouldn't let me into
> the
> Canadian site even though I am a member of the Aussie one.  Hopefully I can
> find the book in their card catalogue.
>
> Thanks
> Kerrie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CoTyroneList [mailto:cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com] On
> Behalf Of Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList
> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2019 10:32 PM
> To: Jim McKane via CoTyroneList
> Cc: Ron McCoy
> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] 100 th reg of foot tyrone
>
>
> Hi Jim
> Below is the complete record of the 100th reg of foot war of 1812. It
> took me some time to find it again and I was unable to refind in the
> Archives but I did find it in Ancestry.com. There is approximately 800
> names of the reg. and rough count 65 who are from Tyrone. This is a
> complete list unlike the one in King and Canada which focus in on
> Goulburn Twp. My relatives are in this group along with many interesting
> other facts. This list is great because it lists where people came from
> so Wm Vaughan came from Dublin and the parish of ST. Thomas. Is this of
> interest? Would you want me to transcribe the Tyrone names? If so how do
> you want them transcribed? While our interest is Tyrone you can see that
> most of the regiment is made up of Ulster men hit hard by economic down
> turn many Weavers.
>
> https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/3253/40940_2000729172-00277?pid=94075
>
> ckurl=https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D3253%26h
>
> %3D94075%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DUVS1401%26_phstart%3Ds
> 
>
> uccessSourcetrue&_phsrc=UVS1401&_phstart=s
> uccessSource=true#?imageId=40940_2000729172-00277
> Cheers
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Maps - added Tyrone - Number of British Families 1622 Survey

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

I'm a little late to the party, but the maps are working fine for me with
Chrome Version 71.0.3578.98 (Official Build) (64-bit) @6:45pm in California.

Kathleen

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 2:40 PM W A Carmen Ferguson via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> I did as you suggested, went to the Home Page, clicked on Maps in the
> Menu, got the Maps menu, clicked on  " *Tyrone* - Multi-map provides good
> maps "
> then clicked on Cookstown, then on  1, and got exactly the same thing -
> where I live in Ottawa, Canada.
>
> It's definitely not my computer Jim.
>
> Carmen
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 2:48 PM Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>> That's odd as when I click on this link I get our Maps menu. Go to the
>> homepage; then choose Maps and find it in the list.
>>
>> Must be an issue with your computer???
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Jim McKane
>> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:34 AM Katie Green via CoTyroneList <
>> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> Very weird. When I click on maps, all I get is a map of where I live
>>> here in Wisconsin. I tried it repeatedly.
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
>>> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maps - added Tyrone - Number of British Families 1622 Survey
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks to Howard Mathieson for another great addition to CTI!
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim McKane
>>> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] getting a researcher

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

I also recommend FTDNA for Ulster matches.

Plus, Margaret, there is already a DNA project for the Armstrong surname
with over 300 members. So, you might want to make a couple of those kits
Y-67, then transfer any Ancestry autosomal results to FTDNA also.

Cheers,
Kathleen

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 6:55 AM James McKane via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> You are correct, Elwyn. AND they are the most reliable  in fact,
> MyHeritage DNA tests are done through FamilyTreeDNA.com
>
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:41 AM Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>> Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any
>> other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. If
>> you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.
>>
>> The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA
>> project and can offer FTDNA testing kits at a reduced price.
>> http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).
>>
>> Elwyn
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* margaret marion via CoTyroneList <
>> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>
>> *To:* cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
>> *Cc:* margaret marion 
>> *Sent:* Friday, 7 December 2018, 13:22
>> *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] getting a researcher
>>
>> I want to thank everyone for their comments on my request to get a
>> researcher.  I think I will spend my money on something better.  I think
>> this calls for a trip to Ireland with some Ancestry DNA kits.  I don't know
>> that much about DNA research.  But I do know how I can export from Ancestry
>> very easily and put it on gedmatch.  From there I can figure out our
>> relationship to a certain extent.
>> And I will still keep looking for that hint.
>> Sometimes I wonder if my relatives really did steal a British army pay
>> chest and come to Canada.  When I look at my Armstrong's, the information
>> keeps changing.  I wonder if they changed their last name coming to Canada.
>> I don't think so, but the Canadian evidence keeps changing, on one census
>> they say they came in 1862, then the next 1865 and yet there they are in
>> the 1861 census.
>> Sorry to gripe. Now that I have read your comments I am more confident in
>> my research as well.  Thank you.
>> Margaret Marion
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Indexing Update - Ship's Lists

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Thank you to all the volunteers!

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:35 AM Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Hello Listers - we have just completed indexing ALL of the Ship's Lists of
> Passengers which are indexed on the site.
>
> Now, there are over 75,900 names indexed for your researching pleasure.
>
> Congratulations to my hardworking "indexers"!!
>
> Thanks
> Jim
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Muster Roll of Sir Robert Stewart's Regiment, Raphoe, Co. Donegal 1642

[K Cooper via CoTyroneList]

Bless you Len! I have been in Salt Lake City the past week with Fintan
Mullin and he says “another win for Len!” Found my ancestor John McIlray on
the list and also the names of families who married with the family later.
What a treat!

Cheers
Kathleen

PS I have been boosting the CTI site all week.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:14 AM Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Muster Roll of Sir Robert Stewart's Regiment, Raphoe, Co. Donegal 1642
> 
>
> AND Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Improving Searches on CTI - RESPONSE REQUIRED

[K Cooper]

I agree with Boyd. Perhaps someone could produce an outline of best search
strategies with the existing search tool.

Kathleen


On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:38 AM Jim McKane  wrote:

> Thanks Boyd
>
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Boyd Gray  wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> On balance, I would say it is not worthwhile.
>>
>> Yes, it is very useful, almost essential, for big databases such as the
>> TABs.  And I would dearly love someone to do it for Catholic Parish
>> Records!!  But the amount of work required in order to do it for the
>> multifarious sources in CTI is just not a good way to spend your time, in
>> my opinion anyway.
>>
>> I have found plenty of useful information by a judicious use of your
>> current simple search system.  I try various combinations of people's names
>> and townland names or churches or parishes and then the little headings
>> that are thrown up are usually enough for me to tell which will be useful.
>> This is very often how I find Len's transcriptions of BMD notices in old
>> newspapers.
>>
>> Others may think different but my advice would be to leave it.  Your
>> search engine for TABs is a great help but that only works because it is
>> one database.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>> https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/
>>
>> http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 July 2018 at 13:25, Jim McKane  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi CTI Supporters -
>>>
>>> PROBLEM -  as you know using any search engine to locate individual
>>> names on any website leaves a lot to be desired. As an example typing
>>> "james mckane" into any search engine will find instances of James McKane
>>> with the two words beside each other and in that order only.  If you only
>>> type james mckane (without the quotes) you then get every page with the two
>>> words anywhere on those pages. meaning you might find Thomas McKane
>>> and James Smith in your results but not James McKane.
>>>
>>> INVESTIGATION - I have invested a lot of time lately including investing
>>> in considerable with a professional programmer  in an attempt to find
>>> an automated solution to the problem which has resulted in. there
>>> is NO easy way!  Why?  Well the major reason is CTI has far too many types
>>> of records in far too many formats to automate the process.
>>>
>>> SOLUTION - The ONLY solution is plain brute force meaning
>>> manually creating spreadsheet lists of surnames and firstnames for each
>>> page on CTI. I would then massage those lists into a fully searchable
>>> database similar to the one recently created for the Tithe Applotment Books.
>>>
>>> QUESTIONS FOR YOU -
>>>
>>>- Do you feel this is a worthwhile project?
>>>- If so, would you be willing to type some lists for us?
>>>- If so, please give us an idea of how many hour/days/weeks you
>>>might expect to dedicate to our project.
>>>
>>> If you wish to keep your responses private, please email me directly
>>> off-list at j...@mckane.ca
>>>
>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>> Jim McKane, webmaster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim McKane
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Born Tyrone, Married Southern Africa: KIDD (Caledon) & DILWORTH (Moy)

[K Cooper]

Surprisingly possible, Len!

My grandfather, Andrew J McElrea, traveled from Co Tyrone to Abbeyleix,
Queen's Co, then to South Africa, where he worked? for only a few months
before showing up in Philadelphia in 1903 to marry my grandmother, Isabella
Jane Fulton. According to my uncle, he arrived with a small bag containing
gold (or money in some form - Uncle Bill was a great storyteller) which he
then threw down on the kitchen table, announcing they could now get
married. Perhaps my great-grandmother was skeptical about his prospects?

Granddad was a grocer his entire life, so I have no idea what he did in
South Africa for such a short time, unless he was able to tap into the gold
mining industry in some way? Maybe Uncle Bill was right and it was gold in
that bag?

Thanks as always for these gems, Len. I hope someone else can find a
relative who disappeared.

Kathleen

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:30 PM Len Swindley 
wrote:

> Hello Listers,
>
>
>
> Have you lost a forebear or family member? Have you considered that they
> may have emigrated to southern Africa? The two following marriage
> announcements published in the *LONDONDERRY* *SENTINEL,* August 31, 1899
> may be interesting/ useful towards your research:
>
>
>
> BEYERS – KIDD – August 1, at the Dutch Reformed Church, Jacobsdal, Orange
> Free State, by Rev. P. Boshoff, HARRY P. BEYERS, of Stellenbosch, Cape
> Colony, to MABEL L. ANNABELLE, only daughter of the late ARCHIBALD NAPIER
> KIDD, Esq., M.D., Caledon, county Tyrone, Ireland
>
>
>
> And
>
>
>
> GORMAN – DILWORTH – August 3, at Buluwayo, South Africa [Zimbabwe], by
> Rev. Archdeacon Upcher, JAMES J. GORMAN, M.R.C.V.S., to MAUD M. DILWORTH,
> of Moy, county Tyrone, Ireland
>
>
>
> Good luck with your research, Listers,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
> Volunteer transcriber of records and submitter of files to cotyroneireland
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online

[K Cooper]

Susan

Do you know where your Black family lived? I have a DNA link to Blacks from
around Douglas Bridge.

Kathleen

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 5:04 PM Susan Black <se.o...@telus.net> wrote:

> Len
>
> Every list you put out is read thoroughly by myself, and well appreciated.
>
> I'm searching for Black, which is a common name. All we know are the names
> and spouses of a large group who emigrated to Upper Canada from Tyrone,
> Ireland in 1847. Thanks to your efforts I feel that I may now have a good
> guess about where they emigrated from. I'm still working on the proof.
>
> Susan
>
> On 2018-05-26 7:35 AM, Len Swindley wrote:
>
> Hello Boyd and all,
>
>
>
> I cannot stress the value of the Tithe Applotment Books to Irish
> researchers, but my decade-long project of transcribing every parish in Co.
> Tyrone has brought zero response and I have often wondered the value of
> continuing with the project. Some parishes have two surviving books and
> both warrant transcribing: tithepayers may be recorded in c1825 but gone
> (generally emigrated) by the late 1830s.
>
>
>
> The possibly easiest method to locate the origins of emigrant forebears is
> to refer to Griffiths Valuation (c1860)
> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ for any concentration
> of the names/s you are researching and then refer to the relevant tithe
> applotment books.
>
>
>
> Am not sure if it will be possible to create an index from my files
> (formatted in Word), but will be considered. To date, the number of pages
> compiled amounts to 1,504, and the number of entries recording the names of
> tithe payers amounts to in excess of 35,000. And the transcribing
> continues. It is a major project and is not being undertaken in any other
> county in Northern Ireland.
>
>
>
> These are VERY important records.
>
>
>
> Best wishes with your researching,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From:* CoTyroneList <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com>
> <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com> on behalf of Boyd Gray
> <boydgra...@gmail.com> <boydgra...@gmail.com>
>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:57:26 PM
>
> *To:* CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online
>
> Hi Len,
>
> A small point.
>
> As you say, the TABs are essential for researching the previous generation
> and the only place to find them for Tyrone is at CTI, where you have
> transcribed them.  And they are essential viewing IF you know which parish
> to research.
>
> However, I am often searching for a family in the 1820s/30s where the only
> location known is Co Tyrone.  This is easy for the GV as the website allows
> one to search by county but I cannot do that with the CTI database.  How
> hard would it be to merge the TAB data which is currently divided by
> parish, into a database covering the whole of Tyrone which would then be
> easily searchable.  Think the Hacketts in that email we commented upon
> yesterday.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Boyd
>
> https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/
>
> https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/
>
> http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2018 at 14:15, Len Swindley <len_swind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Kathleen, Askaboutireland
>> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ is a great website for
>> searching for entries contained in the c1860 Griffiths Valuation – both by
>> surname AND location. Remember that phonetic spelling of family names was
>> most common in Griffiths, so it is useful to consider variations in
>> spelling. The facility to upload data and photographs has been available
>> since 2011
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, the indexed Tithe Applotment Books of the 1820s and 1830s for Co.
>> Tyrone are essential for researching the previous generation: the most
>> extensive database for all Tyrone parishes is available on the
>> CountyTyroneIreland website
>> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/titheindex.html
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope that you have found some useful data amongst the many files on
>> CTI. All good wishes,
>>
>> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online

[K Cooper]

Periodically, I go back and check Griffith's again - especially if I find a
link to a new family. This time I noticed the option to add information,
photos, etc., to the record. Is this new or have I suddenly opened my eyes
to something that has been there all along?  It's a great idea.

Kathleen Cooper

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:05 PM Jim McKane  wrote:

> Griffith's Valuation is FREELY available & fully searchable online at -
>
>
> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
>
> Here you may search for only a Surname or include other options to search
> the WHOLE database at one time.
>
> Enjoy and Good Luck
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Camus-Juxta-Mourne Parish Church (Christ Church, Church of Ireland) Strabane, Marriages 1845-70

[K Cooper]

Excellent! And while I was browsing the page again, I discovered what might
be a new connection to my Fultons. Thanks so much, Len!

Kathleen
San Diego, California
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:16 AM Jim McKane  wrote:

> Camus-Juxta-Mourne Parish Church (Christ Church, Church of Ireland)
> Strabane, Marriages 1845-70
>  - *Updated with
> photo*
>
> Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!
>
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] ABERCORN ESTATE RECORDS: Transcribed and available online

[K Cooper]

Tomorrow is Thanksgiving here in the US and I always start thinking of
things I am thankful for, both big and small.
So, I think it is fitting to say thank you to Len and other contributors to
the CoTyrone site and to Jim for making their contributions accessible to
all of us.

Thanks, everyone!
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:39 PM Len Swindley 
wrote:

> Hello researchers,
>
> The Abercorn estate was the most extensive and important estate in Co.
> Tyrone, and was centred on the town of Strabane. The tremendous numbers of
> surviving records from the eighteenth century have been deposited in the
> Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI), Belfast and many have
> been microfilmed by the Family History Society of Utah (LDS). During the
> past few years I have transcribed many of these records which are available
> for searching on http://www.cotyroneireland.com/  Some of my
> transcriptions are listed below, but there are more if a search of the site
> is undertaken.
>
> Researchers with emigrant forebears from North Tyrone may find these
> extensive records useful in locating their ancestral family
>
> Regards and best of luck,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
> THE LORD LIEUTENANT AND HIS DONEGAL & TYRONE TENANTRY 1868
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/tenantry.html
>
> REFERENCE AND VALUATION OF THE CHURCHLANDS OF ARDSTRAW PARISH 1807
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_churchlands.html
>
> TENANTS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE BARONSCOURT ESTATE IN THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_tenants.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL OF THE MANOR OF CLOGHOGLE, LECKPATRICK PARISH 1631
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/cloghogalmuster1631.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF CLOGHOGLE, LECKPATRICK PARISH 1806
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/rental/abercorn_cloghogle.html
>
> TENANTS OF THE MANOR OF CLOGHOGLE, LECKPATRICK PARISH 1777
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_tenants2.html
>
> TENANTS RECORDED IN LARAGHS AND DEER PARK, ARDSTRAW PARISH FROM A PARTIAL
> RENTAL 1818
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_deer.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL OF & ACCOUNT OF FIREARMS OF THE MANOR OF DERRYGOON, ARDSTRAW
> PARISH 1745
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/derrygoon.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF DERRYGOON (PARTIAL SURVIVING RENTAL) 1756
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_derrygoon.html
>
> TENANTS OF THE MANOR OF DERRYGOON, ARDSTRAW PARISH 1777
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_derrygoon.html
>
> SURVEY AND VALUATION OF THE MANOR OF DERRYGOON, ARDSTRAW 1787
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/derrygoon2.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF DONELONG, DONAGHEADY PARISH 1806
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/dirrigoon.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL AND ACCOUNT OF FIREARMS IN THE MANOR OF DONELONG (DONAGHEADY
> PARISH 1745)
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF DONELONG, DONAGHEADY PARISH 1787
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/donelong2.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF THE MANOR OF DONELONG, DONAGHEADY PARISH 1806
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/donelong.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL OF THE MANOR OF DUNNALONG (DONELONG), DONAGHEADY PARISH 1631
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/dunnalongmuster1631.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL AND ACCOUNT OF FIREARMS LECKPATRICK PARISH 1745
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/leckpatrick.html
>
> MUSTER ROLL OF THE MEN AND ARMS OF THE TOWN OF STRABANE 1631
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/strabanemuster1631.html
>
> BURGESSES OF THE TOWN OF STRABANE 1730-55
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_burgess.html
>
> Petition from the Merchants of Strabane to the Earl of Abercorn re.
> William Maxwell, Candidate at ELECTIONS 1768
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_maxwell.html
>
> PETITION FROM THE CHURCHWARDENS OF STRABANE TO THE EARL OF ABERCORN 1753
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_petition.html
>
> PETITION FROM THE MERCHANTS OF STRABANE TO THE EARL OF ABERCORN FOR THE
> ERECTION OF A BRIDGE 1768
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_bridge.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF STRABANE 1833 (TOWN OF STRABANE AND PARISHES OF
> CAMUS-JUXTA-MOURNE, URNEY & ARDSTRAW)
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_strabane6.html
>
> ABERCORN TENANTS IN THE TOWN OF STRABANE 1744-5
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_strabane3.html
>
> TENEMENTS AND PROPRIETORS IN STRABANE 1755
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_strabane4.html
>
> SURVEY AND VALUATION OF THE MANOR OF STRABANE 1777
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_strabane.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF STRABANE FROM MAPS OF THE ESTATE (TOWN OF STRABANE
> AND PARISHES OF CAMUS-JUXTA-MOURNE, URNEY & ARDSTRAW) 1777
>
> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_strabane5.html
>
> RENTAL OF THE MANOR OF 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Ulster Genealogy & Local History Blog

[K Cooper]

Great stuff, Bobby. Thank you for letting us know about your contributions.
I'm reading the posts about marriages right now and it is fascinating!

Cheers,
Kathleen
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:57 AM Robert Forrest 
wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I look forward to contributing to this list.
>
> Some of you might be interested in a blog I am trying hard to keep active
> (not easy as you can imagine!)
>
> http://www.ulstergenealogyandlocalhistoryblog.com/
>
> In one of my blogs I discuss the value of subsidy rolls (c1662) and these
> are available for quite a few parishes in Co Tyrone.
>
>
> http://www.ulstergenealogyandlocalhistoryblog.com/2017/10/subsidy-rolls-1662-1668.html
>
>
> Bobby Forrest
>
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Re: [CoTyroneIreland] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - St. Patrick's Church of Ireland, Parish of Lower Bodoney Cemetery Inscriptions

[K Cooper]

Adding my thanks to Ann Robinson for this very significant addition to CTI.
As a former transcriptions, bless your flying fingers!

Kathleen
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:28 AM Len Swindley 
wrote:

> A huge thank you Ann for contributing such a great file with wonderful
> data; this must have consumed many, many hours of your time. Many listers
> will appreciate your local knowledge and expertise and acknowledge your
> love for this very beautiful part of Tyrone. Thank you indeed.
>
>
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Jim McKane 
> *Sent: *Friday, 23 June 2017 9:15 AM
> *To: *cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
> *Subject: *[CoTyroneIreland] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - St.
> Patrick's Church of Ireland, Parish of Lower Bodoney Cemetery Inscriptions
>
>
>
> St. Patrick's Church of Ireland, Parish of Lower Bodoney (Badoney), Gortin
> Cemetery Inscriptions
> 
>
>
>
> This file contains complete inscriptions for the whole cemetery.
>
>
>
> A MASSIVE work!
>
>
>
> Thanks to Ann Robinson for GREAT addition to CTI!
>
> Jim McKane
>
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
>
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Re: [CoTyroneIreland] Townland Maps for ALL of Ireland

[K Cooper]

Wonderful resource! Thanks, Rene and Jim.

Kathleen
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:46 AM Jim McKane  wrote:

> This website - www.townlands.ie  shows all the Townlands overlaid on
> modern maps.
>
> Ballysudden and Gallanagh Hill are now in the middle of a cement works
> just outside Dungannon.
>
> Courtesy of Rene Donaghy, Donagheady, Tyrone, Ireland
>
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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Re: [CoTyroneIreland] birth places

[K Cooper]

Death certificates are another land mine for erroneous information. My
uncle gave my great-aunt's birthplace (or someone heard him say) "Dunegal"
- but it was really Newtownstewart, County Tyrone. Our family was among
those who did not reminisce about the old country, so what did he know, he
was from Philadelphia!

Also, I have actually seen records indexed as "Strabane, Donegal" (was
Strabane ever in Donegal?) and other combinations that I don't recall at
this moment.

It doesn't help that our ancestors sometimes gave a local version of their
birthplace, as Dennis said, whereas the records are located by parish,
town, or registration district. So, some of my ancestors might have said
Dunmullan, Omagh or Omey, Cappagh (parish), Strabane, etc.

I think it is all a conspiracy to keep genealogists on their toes!

Kathleen


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:32 AM Dennis Wright  wrote:

> Boyd, I have had the same problem of erroneous birth places in US data.  I
> found that sometimes rather than explain where they came from the
> immigrants pick a larger better known place.  For example my Great Uncle
> Andrew Wright told his children he was born in Dromore, County Tyrone as
> stated in his Obituary.  His birth record shows he was actually Born in
> Ballynafeagh, County Tyrone.  This also happened with my Italian
> grandparents.
>
>
>
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Re: [CoTyroneIreland] Witnesses to Marriages

[K Cooper]

After sending that message, I discussed this with my British husband and we
realized the possibilities. Having been born and raised in California, my
experiences are far different from his! When he described how the couple
might be whisked into an office to sign the registry before they left the
church, it made sense. At wedding chapels here - it's not just Las Vegas
that has them! - the couple might or might not have their own witnesses. My
parents had my mother's brother and wife attending, which was confusing as
they both had the same name. My paternal grandparents lived in a state
where there was both a license beforehand and a "return" filed after the
marriage. These were important, because sometimes the event never took
place even though a license was issued.

Very interesting. Thanks for your reply.

Kathleen
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM Viola Wiggins  wrote:

> Kathleen
> It would depend on where the event took place.
> Civil registration of a marriage could have taken place at the Local
> Registrar's Office and the repeated names may have been people available in
> those Offices.
> If it was in the Church that the bride attended then the witnesses would
> be known to the couple.
> Weddings were not the elaborate affairs as of today and may only have had
> eight or nine people present as family and friends.
> In my parents case the witnesses were my mother's sister and the best man
> was of the same surname as my father, but supposedly unrelated. I now think
> they were 3rd cousins.
> The party returned to my maternal Grandparents home for the Wedding
> Breakfast.
> That was on 24th December 1926.
> Viola
>
>
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Re: [CoTyroneIreland] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Ardstraw Parish Church, Newtownstewart, Marriages

[K Cooper]

I can't even begin to thank Len enough for all the contributions he has
made in the form of records for this list. In this latest batch, I count
more than a dozen marriages that are either in my family lines (Fulton,
Somerville, McFarland and more), or possible collateral relatives. Had I
not been researching for many years, these would have been a bonanza. As it
is, I still have much more to investigate and possibly explain the many DNA
matches we have found with "cousins" from Tyrone.

I am curious if anyone knows the reason for the same witnesses at many
marriages-e.g. Bates and Robb? Would these be church officials who stood in
as witnesses when a family member was not available?

Thanks again, Len!

Kathleen

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:46 AM Jim McKane  wrote:

> Ardstraw Parish Church (Church of Ireland), Newtownstewart, Marriages
> 1845-64 
>
> Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!
>
> Works such as this have TONNES of hours behind the scenes. Len deserves
> much more credit than he receives.
>
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