[courier-users] queuetime

2003-03-06 Thread Evelyne Pichler
I set my queutime to 3d. I did restart courier. But I still have messages
that are a week old in the queue. Any idea why that can happen?

evelyn



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RE: [courier-users] Re: Exchange like Mail System

2003-03-06 Thread Patrick Bihan-Faou

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Patrick Bihan-Faou writes:

  If you want something compatible with outlook, you may want to
 take a look
  at bynari Insight Connector. With this outlook plugin, you can
 replace an
  exchange server with a standard IMAP server and keep most features of
  outlook in exchange more.
 
  The soft is not overpriced and it is compatible with Courier IMAP.

 That's what I heard initially, but then someone claimed that Insight
 Connector needs IMAP ACL support, which is not supported by Courier.

 So, if anyone's going to try this stuff with Courier they better get good
 assurances from Bynari.

IMAP ACL support is required so let outlook users define how their private
folders can be accessed by other users. Everything else is standard IMAP and
does not require ACL support. Namely, shared calendars etc. can easily be
setup as shared maildir folders and be fully functional. It is a matter of
saying 'the users control access' (i.e. IMAP ACL is needed) or 'the
administrator controls access' (no ACL support needed).

If you want to have IMAP ACL support, the Cyrus IMAP server can provide that
(but this becomes off topic for this list).

Patrick.



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[courier-users] Log format

2003-03-06 Thread Morten
Hi,

I notice that Courier on my server logs the IP address in this format:

[:::50e8:11fe]

How can I get it to log using the following format?

[127.0.0.1]



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Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Candler
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 I apologize for the repost, but I didn't see any reply... not sure if my
 questions are too easy, too hard, or not getting out ;-) Thanks.

You cannot pop from anything other than INBOX. Probably the easiest solution
is to set up a second mailbox and forward whichever messages you want to be
poppable into that.


 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch
 (WebCob)
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any
 ideas?
 
 
 Ideally, I want to be able to configure a user to POP some of their mail...
 First I thought of creating a special folder, and moving the special
 messages there... but how could I set the pop3d to read from a folder - not
 the main inbox?!?!?
 
 I can run a special authd and pop3d if that would help... I am currently
 using the MySQL authd module.
 
 Most of the mail client work is done through IMAP, but for various reasons
 some filtered messages (maildrop) would be preferentially pulled by POP,
 leaving other mail untouched... I'm looking for a simple solution - ideally,
 same username and password, but alter the server config to pull from
 Maildir/popmessages or something similar.
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 m/
 
 
 
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[courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Stockton
Hi

I am looking to implement a webmail system (squirrelmail) which is an
imap client, however I have an issue in that the users mail spools are
currently only accessed by pop3 clients (outlook / eudora etc).

The main point I'm trying to figure out is, if a user creates folders
from the webmail, can the pop3 server be configured to retrieve messages
from all folders ?  OR Can the imap client / server create folders in a
way that is transparent to the pop3 client.

Does anybody have any theories as to the best way to live with both
protocols.

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks

Tom


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Re: [courier-users] Log format

2003-03-06 Thread Roland Schneider
--Morten wrote on 06.03.03 12:19 +0100:

 I notice that Courier on my server logs the IP address in this format:
 
 [:::50e8:11fe]
 
 How can I get it to log using the following format?
 
 [127.0.0.1]

./configure --without-ipv6

strongly recommended for BSD anyway, beside aestethical reasons ;)

Roland



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[courier-users] IMAP_EMPTYTRASH and maildirsize

2003-03-06 Thread Fabio Gomes
I've configured my courier imap server with the following option:

IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7,Sent:30

I'm intriged 'cause the file maildirsize is not updated when messages in 
Trash and Sent are deleted by this feature.

Any considerations?

Thank you all,
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[courier-users] Re: imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Stockton writes:

Hi

I am looking to implement a webmail system (squirrelmail) which is an
imap client, however I have an issue in that the users mail spools are
currently only accessed by pop3 clients (outlook / eudora etc).
The main point I'm trying to figure out is, if a user creates folders
from the webmail, can the pop3 server be configured to retrieve messages
from all folders ?
No.  The POP3 server, essentially, reads only INBOX.



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[courier-users] Re: queuetime

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Evelyne Pichler writes:

I set my queutime to 3d. I did restart courier. But I still have messages
that are a week old in the queue. Any idea why that can happen?
Changes to queuetime take effect for new messages only.  Existing messages 
are not affected.



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Re: [courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Juri Haberland
Tom Stockton wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am looking to implement a webmail system (squirrelmail) which is an
 imap client, however I have an issue in that the users mail spools are
 currently only accessed by pop3 clients (outlook / eudora etc).
 
 The main point I'm trying to figure out is, if a user creates folders
 from the webmail, can the pop3 server be configured to retrieve messages
 from all folders ?  OR Can the imap client / server create folders in a
 way that is transparent to the pop3 client.

AFAIK there is no way to tell the pop3 server to serve additional
folders. It will always hand out the mails in the INBOX (top level
maildir). If the mails are retrieved via pop3 they are in most cases
deleted from the server (on request of the client). So if the user
collects all mail via pop3 and logs in via Squirrelmail afterwards, he
won't see any mails. That's the way it is and I don't know how it could
be done different. IMO all freemailers, that provide webmail and pop3
access have the same 'problem'.

Your users must decide to either use webmail only, pop3 only, or to use
pop3 and see only the newly arrived mails via webmail. If they create
folders via webmail nad move messages into these folders, they will stay
there forever.

Cheers,
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Re: [courier-users] IMAP_EMPTYTRASH and maildirsize

2003-03-06 Thread Jon Nelson
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Fabio Gomes wrote:

 I've configured my courier imap server with the following option:
 
 IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7,Sent:30
 
 I'm intriged 'cause the file maildirsize is not updated when messages in 
 Trash and Sent are deleted by this feature.
 
 Any considerations?

Er, what do you mean 'the file maildirsize'?  Is there a /file/ named
'maildirsize' that ostensibly contains the size of the maildir (in
bytes, # messages, ???). I find no such file name.

The number '7' refers to 7 days worth of seconds (7 * 24 * 60 * 60), and
the calculation that is performed to determine when to delete a message
is based upon the ctime of the message.

Refer to line 58 of maildirpurgetmp.c

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Re: [courier-users] IMAP_EMPTYTRASH and maildirsize

2003-03-06 Thread Fabio Gomes
Jon Nelson wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Fabio Gomes wrote:


I've configured my courier imap server with the following option:

IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7,Sent:30

I'm intriged 'cause the file maildirsize is not updated when messages in 
Trash and Sent are deleted by this feature.

Any considerations?


Er, what do you mean 'the file maildirsize'?  Is there a /file/ named
'maildirsize' that ostensibly contains the size of the maildir (in
bytes, # messages, ???). I find no such file name.
The number '7' refers to 7 days worth of seconds (7 *  24 * 60 * 60), and
the calculation that is performed to determine when to delete a message
is based upon the ctime of the message.
Refer to line 58 of maildirpurgetmp.c

Argh.. My mistake, sorry. The situation IS: I'm using courier-imap and 
qmail-ldap. qmail-ldap controls quota by using this /file/ called 
maildirsize located in maildir's top level.

hmm.. Then, althought this is not really a courier problem I'll need to 
change maildirpurgetmp.c to delete this file 
(/home/user/Maildir/maildirsize), if it exists, when the 'dopurge' runs. 
I'll be glad if anyone would help me with some code lines. Otherwise I 
apologize and thank you all.

Regards,
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Re: [courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Stockton
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:33, Juri Haberland wrote:

 
 Your users must decide to either use webmail only, pop3 only, or to use
 pop3 and see only the newly arrived mails via webmail. If they create
 folders via webmail nad move messages into these folders, they will stay
 there forever.

Yeah thats what I was thinking too, we currently have a webmail system
that reads / writes to the mail spool directly over nfs, folders are
virtually defined by the naming convention of each message, however all
messages remain in the INBOX.  I was hoping IMAP might have some crazy
setting that allowed a similar kind of folder creation ?  Please tell me
if I am talking absolute tosh.

Tom


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[courier-users] sqwebmail can't send

2003-03-06 Thread Larry D. Lacy

I am having trouble with sqwebmail sending email. I am running:

qmail-1.03
sqwebmail-3.5.0
vpopmail-5.2.1

Users can recieve mail without incident, but when sending mail get only:

Unable to send message.

in large red letters at the top of the page.

I can't find any other record of the error. This may be because I can't find 
any information about sqwebmail logging.

any thoughts on the sending mail issue or my inability to locate logs for 
sqwebmail are apreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Juri Haberland
Tom Stockton wrote:

 [...] folders are
 virtually defined by the naming convention of each message, however all
 messages remain in the INBOX.  I was hoping IMAP might have some crazy
 setting that allowed a similar kind of folder creation ?

Sorry, I don't get what you mean. Can you clarify?

Cheers,
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RE: [courier-users] Re: Exchange like Mail System

2003-03-06 Thread Mitch \(WebCob\)
Interesting... is there anyone interested or developing support for this
feature in courier?

m/

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IMAP ACL support is required so let outlook users define how their private
folders can be accessed by other users. Everything else is standard IMAP and
does not require ACL support. Namely, shared calendars etc. can easily be
setup as shared maildir folders and be fully functional. It is a matter of
saying 'the users control access' (i.e. IMAP ACL is needed) or 'the
administrator controls access' (no ACL support needed).

If you want to have IMAP ACL support, the Cyrus IMAP server can provide that
(but this becomes off topic for this list).

Patrick.




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RE: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Mitch \(WebCob\)
Perhaps I could run a second pop3 daemon customized to pull from a specific
folder?

Would this be a big change? (Adding '/pop3' to the folder path)

Can anyone suggest where I start looking in the code?

thanks

m/

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Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?
Any ideas?


On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 I apologize for the repost, but I didn't see any reply... not sure if my
 questions are too easy, too hard, or not getting out ;-) Thanks.

You cannot pop from anything other than INBOX. Probably the easiest solution
is to set up a second mailbox and forward whichever messages you want to be
poppable into that.



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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch
 (WebCob)
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any
 ideas?


 Ideally, I want to be able to configure a user to POP some of their
mail...
 First I thought of creating a special folder, and moving the special
 messages there... but how could I set the pop3d to read from a folder -
not
 the main inbox?!?!?

 I can run a special authd and pop3d if that would help... I am currently
 using the MySQL authd module.

 Most of the mail client work is done through IMAP, but for various reasons
 some filtered messages (maildrop) would be preferentially pulled by POP,
 leaving other mail untouched... I'm looking for a simple solution -
ideally,
 same username and password, but alter the server config to pull from
 Maildir/popmessages or something similar.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks in advance.

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[courier-users] high and low watermark values and their impact

2003-03-06 Thread Anand Buddhdev
Today I had the chance to observe courier's handling of a large backlog
of messages. One of our downstream SMTP servers went down, and I had
nearly 600 messages piled up for it. When it finally came back up,
courier began delivery to it. Courier started with 400 messages in the
queue cache, and maintained 10 parallel connections to the downstream
(I have set esmtp concurrency to 10).

However, as messages were being delivered, new ones kept coming in
for that downstream SMTP server. And as I understand it, these new
messages get inserted into the queue cache immediately, as long as
there is room.  And therefore, for nearly 4 hours, the queuedelivering
value hovered at around 300. Messages that were in the queue cache when
the downstream SMTP server came online, and new messages that arrived,
were being delivered. However, because of the arrival of new messages,
the low watermark of 200 was not reached until about 4 hours later, at
which point, courier went and re-read the queue from disk, and filled
up the cache back to 400 messages. Now, some of these on-disk messages
were for other domains, and they would have been delivered much sooner,
because there were enough outbound esmtp slots available.

So, in summary, messages for this one domain delayed delivery of messages
to other domains, because they had to sit in the queue on disk until
courier's low watermark went below 200.

I realise that the situation can be helped by tuning the values of the
high and low watermark, and making them much closer, like 380 and 400
for example, so that the on-disk queue will be read much more frequently.

However, I have no idea on what values are sensible, and what the impact
would be of making the low watermark so close to the high watermark. It
would mean that the disk would be read more often, but how severely
would it impact courier's performance?

Has anyone else experimented with these values? And if so, what is
your experience?

Sam, do you have anything to add to this discussion based on your
personal testing and experience? I am curious as to how you devised
this algorithm. Is it a well-known algorithm, with documented tuning
guidelines, or is it something you have devised yourself?

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[courier-users] courier and amavis-ng-0.1.6.1.orig

2003-03-06 Thread Russell Premont
Is anyone using amavis-ng-0.1.6.1.orig and courier? If so could you tell me
how you have your maildroprc set up?


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Re: [courier-users] storing aliases in SQL database

2003-03-06 Thread Moshe Gurvich
i store aliases as accounts with same home dirs as parents

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 Hi!

 Is there any possibility to store aliases in sql database?
 Like courierldapaliasd, but in mysql instead of ldap.

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Re: [courier-users] storing aliases in SQL database

2003-03-06 Thread Jerry Amundson


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Is there any possibility to store aliases in sql database?
Like courierldapaliasd, but in mysql instead of ldap.
You might experiment with the SQL backend option to OpenLDAP. I believe 
building it would also require unixODBC or MyODBC. You should then be 
able to just point courierldapaliasd to the OpenLDAP server, pointed to 
the MySQL server...

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Re: [courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread James A Baker
On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 10:15 US/Central, Juri Haberland wrote:
Tom Stockton wrote:

[...] folders are
virtually defined by the naming convention of each message, however 
all
messages remain in the INBOX.  I was hoping IMAP might have some crazy
setting that allowed a similar kind of folder creation ?
Sorry, I don't get what you mean. Can you clarify?

Cheers,
Juri
Juri, I *think* he's saying that the messages are named something like 
the following:
(conceptually, at least... I have no idea how they're actually named :)

Say for instance the webmail user creates a folder named 'FooBar' and 
puts 2 messages in it, as well as a folder named 'FooBar/Xanthes' and 
puts 1 message in it, and finally that the user has 3 messages still in 
their Inbox.

The server would then have 1 mail directory for the user, which might 
look *some*thing like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
INBOX--9jjlf3l3%lijave399v.ellaf
FooBar.Xanthes--ljklaie9937vaelkjali%lijaeslj
FooBar--iuewnnv78eiou%oiuvalen.ievj0
...where the stuff following -- (my example delimiter) in each file 
name is a unique identifier of some sort used by the mail system; and 
the text preceding the -- in the file name, is the webmail folder 
name that the message is associated with.

(Of course, the naming convention itself is sure to be different, but 
you get the idea.)

Here the webmail server recognizes the folder names prepended to their 
unique identifiers and shows them separated appropriately into folders, 
but the POP server merely sees 6 message files all contained in the POP 
server's idea of a mailbox... which means it could allow unified access 
to them all.

Is that what you mean, Tom?

If so, then... No. I don't think any IMAP system is currently using 
such a mail format. -- And assuming I'm right in that belief, I further 
believe that you would have to do some moderate-to-serious 
(re-)programming to make an IMAP server (such as courier) understand 
such a format.

It is effectively a new (and quite distinct) variation on the Maildir 
concept -- if my interpretation of what you mean is at all correct.

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Re: [courier-users] storing aliases in SQL database

2003-03-06 Thread dobos_s

what about forward aliases, which are not on our server?

Dobos Sandor
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i store aliases as accounts with same home dirs as parents

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 Hi!

 Is there any possibility to store aliases in sql database?
 Like courierldapaliasd, but in mysql instead of ldap.

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Re: [courier-users] storing aliases in SQL database

2003-03-06 Thread dobos_s

I think it would be better to screw up courierldapaliasd source to use
mysql instead ldap.

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 Is there any possibility to store aliases in sql database?
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You might experiment with the SQL backend option to OpenLDAP. I believe
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[courier-users] qmail to courier mta.

2003-03-06 Thread Jon Nelson
I'm looking to give courier mta a try.
Are there any guides, howtos, or other documents that could help me?
Anyone out there done this conversion, and have anything useful to say?
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[courier-users] i think i have a mail loop.....

2003-03-06 Thread p cooper
trying to sort something else out I chowned /var to a
user ( intendgin to chown it back..)
since then new mail has disappeared, old mail
reapperaed  nothing is delivered.
In /var/lib/courier/tmp are a load of directores
104681,2,90
each containing a load of files Cx/D
lengths of each vary
the longest (in 104681)
is 2795 lines 
the usual headers then a  list of
A10469

over 2000 times

I assume this is the control file logging attmepts to
deliver..

How do I get out of this mess??





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[courier-users] RCPT not OK response from exchange

2003-03-06 Thread Scott
Hi,

I've never had this problem receiving from exchange before.  I've also 
tested with three other exchange servers and there was no problem on 
their end.  My server (questacorp.com) is courier-0.40.2-1.7.3, and 
their server (navigant.com) is Exchange-5.0.2195.5329 (which I think is 
exchange2k with the most recent service pack).

I was hoping the folks here could help me explain to navigant.com's 
exchange admin what is wrong with his server.  At least, I hope it's his 
server and not mine!  The error is below:

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/6/2003 12:59 PM
There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email 
server.  Please contact your system administrator.
mail.navigant.com #5.5.0 smtp;550 Command RCPT User 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] not OK	

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RE: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Mitch \(WebCob\)
Yeah  - but that wouldn't be simple either - because the authentication DB
has to return the correct values for IMAP access.

I figured that in the API for maildir message access there would probably be
a function that retrieved messages or opened a folder which would probably
take Maildir  Folder as parameters. Assuming that pop3d might use such an
API call, then it would simply be a matter of replacing 'INBOX' with
'INBOX/subfolder' or something to that effect.

Thought that if any developers or hackers hung out here they might have a
few pointers on the subject (Sam where art thou?).

Thanks.

m/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian
Candler
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:42 AM
To: Mitch (WebCob)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?
Any ideas?


On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:04:10AM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 Perhaps I could run a second pop3 daemon customized to pull from a
specific
 folder?

 Would this be a big change? (Adding '/pop3' to the folder path)

It's not that simple, because a folder is not in itself a Maildir. In
particular, this would break quotas.

If it were that simple, you could just return the appropriate path to the
Maildir from your authentication database.

Regards,

Brian.


 Can anyone suggest where I start looking in the code?

 thanks

 m/

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Candler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:47 AM
 To: Mitch (WebCob)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?
 Any ideas?


 On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
  I apologize for the repost, but I didn't see any reply... not sure if my
  questions are too easy, too hard, or not getting out ;-) Thanks.

 You cannot pop from anything other than INBOX. Probably the easiest
solution
 is to set up a second mailbox and forward whichever messages you want to
be
 poppable into that.


 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch
  (WebCob)
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any
  ideas?
 
 
  Ideally, I want to be able to configure a user to POP some of their
 mail...
  First I thought of creating a special folder, and moving the special
  messages there... but how could I set the pop3d to read from a folder -
 not
  the main inbox?!?!?
 
  I can run a special authd and pop3d if that would help... I am
currently
  using the MySQL authd module.
 
  Most of the mail client work is done through IMAP, but for various
reasons
  some filtered messages (maildrop) would be preferentially pulled by POP,
  leaving other mail untouched... I'm looking for a simple solution -
 ideally,
  same username and password, but alter the server config to pull from
  Maildir/popmessages or something similar.
 
  Anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
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[courier-users] courier mta issue

2003-03-06 Thread Jon Nelson
OK, I'm 95% of the way there.  I was running qmail, and I'm giving
courier-mta a try.

Here's one problem.
When submitting mail of the form:

nail -s 'foo2' jnelson  /dev/null
and nail is told to *not* use smtp (ie, shell out to sendmail),
it works.

If it uses smtp it fails. Here is the transaction:

220 honker.localdomain ESMTP
 HELO honker.localdomain
250-honker.localdomain Ok.
 MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok.
 RCPT TO: jnelson
513 Syntax error.

What am I doing wrong?  Even if I *am* doing something wrong, why do the
other MTAs I use accept emails in that form and courier doesn't?

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Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Kurt Bigler
on 3/6/03 11:41 AM, Brian Candler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:04:10AM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 Perhaps I could run a second pop3 daemon customized to pull from a specific
 folder?
 
 Would this be a big change? (Adding '/pop3' to the folder path)
 
 It's not that simple, because a folder is not in itself a Maildir. In
 particular, this would break quotas.

Quotas aside, is it strictly impossible for Maildirs to be nested?  I've
wondered the same thing for similar reasons - wanted to create a spam
subfolder that could be accessed via a separate pop account, possibly by
using a hyphenated suffix on the main account.

Potential IMAP access would also be desirable and I have to admit I
currently know nothing about how IMAP handles subfolders in relation to the
Maildir structure - because I have not installed IMAP yet (which is one of
the reasons I am lurking here).

But I figured off-hand that a Maildir could be directly inside another
Maildir (not inside of cur or new) without breaking anything much.

Isn't it just a question of whether the admin tools used to create/maintain
the overall directory structure of the Maildirs can handle it?  (Not that
that isn't a big requirement - but it might then just be a matter of working
out the details.)  And then of course, whatever IMAP issues I may be unaware
of.

-Kurt Bigler

 
 If it were that simple, you could just return the appropriate path to the
 Maildir from your authentication database.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brian.
 
 
 Can anyone suggest where I start looking in the code?
 
 thanks
 
 m/
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Candler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:47 AM
 To: Mitch (WebCob)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?
 Any ideas?
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 I apologize for the repost, but I didn't see any reply... not sure if my
 questions are too easy, too hard, or not getting out ;-) Thanks.
 
 You cannot pop from anything other than INBOX. Probably the easiest solution
 is to set up a second mailbox and forward whichever messages you want to be
 poppable into that.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch
 (WebCob)
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any
 ideas?
 
 
 Ideally, I want to be able to configure a user to POP some of their
 mail...
 First I thought of creating a special folder, and moving the special
 messages there... but how could I set the pop3d to read from a folder -
 not
 the main inbox?!?!?
 
 I can run a special authd and pop3d if that would help... I am currently
 using the MySQL authd module.
 
 Most of the mail client work is done through IMAP, but for various reasons
 some filtered messages (maildrop) would be preferentially pulled by POP,
 leaving other mail untouched... I'm looking for a simple solution -
 ideally,
 same username and password, but alter the server config to pull from
 Maildir/popmessages or something similar.
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 m/
 
 
 
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[courier-users] Re: courier mta issue

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jon Nelson writes:

 RCPT TO: jnelson
513 Syntax error.
What am I doing wrong?
jnelson is not a valid Internet E-mail address.  The format for Internet 
addresses is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Even if I *am* doing something wrong, why do the
other MTAs I use accept emails in that form and courier doesn't?
Because they will assume, and use, the local E-mail domain as a default.



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[courier-users] Re: high and low watermark values and their impact

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Anand Buddhdev writes:


would be of making the low watermark so close to the high watermark. It
would mean that the disk would be read more often, but how severely
would it impact courier's performance?
Depends on the disk subsystem.

Has anyone else experimented with these values? And if so, what is
your experience?
Sam, do you have anything to add to this discussion based on your
personal testing and experience? I am curious as to how you devised
this algorithm. Is it a well-known algorithm, with documented tuning
guidelines, or is it something you have devised yourself?
It's my own invention.  It's not much of an algorithm, really.  The goal is 
to avoid hitting the disk after every delivery attempt.  That's it.

When you have a large backup, something has to give.  Perfect FIFO 
scheduling either requires some sort of a disk-based database structure, 
that orders messages by the next scheduled delivery attempt date, or to keep 
everything in memory.

The current algorithm avoids either unwanted alternative.  The compromise is 
that if the queue is dominated by a single domain not all available delivery 
slots will be used.  But as long as you've maxed out your network bandwidth 
the additional pending deliveries won't get you anything anyway.  So all you 
need to make sure is that you're using all of your available bandwidth.

The other thing you've noticed is new, incoming mail, starving out the 
backed up queue.  This might be fixable by simply not queuing up new mail 
while the in-memory queue is above the low watermark.  Just queue it to 
disk.  When the in-memory queue hits the low watermark it'll just go to the 
disk anyway.

But, the flip side of the coin is that some may want to give preferential 
treatment to their primary destination mail domain when there's a large 
queue backup.  This might even be a tunable setting.



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[courier-users] Re: i think i have a mail loop.....

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
p cooper writes:

trying to sort something else out I chowned /var to a
user ( intendgin to chown it back..)
since then new mail has disappeared, old mail
reapperaed  nothing is delivered.
In /var/lib/courier/tmp are a load of directores
104681,2,90
each containing a load of files Cx/D
lengths of each vary
the longest (in 104681)
is 2795 lines 
the usual headers then a  list of
A10469

over 2000 times

I assume this is the control file logging attmepts to
deliver..
How do I get out of this mess??
It's going to be easier to rm -rf everything, and reinstall Courier, rather 
than spend the month figuring out what's the right permission for every 
directory and file.



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[courier-users] Re: IMAP_EMPTYTRASH and maildirsize

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Fabio Gomes writes:

I've configured my courier imap server with the following option:

IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7,Sent:30

I'm intriged 'cause the file maildirsize is not updated when messages in 
Trash and Sent are deleted by this feature.

Any considerations?
Yes, this should be fixed.  However it's more of an annoyance.  The 
incorrect quota will fix itself, sooner or later.



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[courier-users] Re: RCPT not OK response from exchange

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Scott writes:

Hi,

I've never had this problem receiving from exchange before.  I've also 
tested with three other exchange servers and there was no problem on 
their end.  My server (questacorp.com) is courier-0.40.2-1.7.3, and 
their server (navigant.com) is Exchange-5.0.2195.5329 (which I think is 
exchange2k with the most recent service pack).

I was hoping the folks here could help me explain to navigant.com's 
exchange admin what is wrong with his server.  At least, I hope it's his 
server and not mine!  The error is below:

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/6/2003 12:59 PM
There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email 
server.  Please contact your system administrator.
mail.navigant.com #5.5.0 smtp;550 Command RCPT User 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] not OK	
There is no such error message in Courier.  Figure out exactly what is 
reporting this message, and proceed from there.



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[courier-users] authmysql and virtuadomains

2003-03-06 Thread Pavel
Hi All,
I'm want use virtualdomains, and the authmysql module for authentication my user.

All is order. But, in MySQL log I see the auth query (example
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] user):
select (id, name, ..., maildir, quote) from $mytable where id=test

I think it's not correct for virtualdomains-support, and
MySQL the query should look like ...where id=[EMAIL PROTECTED].


I'm right, or no ? and what am I doing wrong ?

use the default mail domain does not work properly ( [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and etc.)

sorry for my terrible english, my native language is perl :))

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all the best,
 Pavel M. Tsupra   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[courier-users] Re: high and low watermark values and their i mpact

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Saxon Jones writes:

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RE: [courier-users] Re: high and low watermark values and their impact

I've certainly noticed that when my queue backs up that I have to stop the
SMTP server just to make any progress in delivery.  This usually only
happens when there's roughly 10,000 messages in the queue, but we really
have no alternative.  Once I shut down the SMTP server I can delivery
about 1,500 messages per minute, but while the SMTP server is up I can
hardly deal with the 500 or so messages per minute that generally come in
after a network outage.
You need to bump up the lo and hi watermark settings...



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Re: [courier-users] imap - pop3 coexistence.

2003-03-06 Thread Juri Haberland
James A Baker wrote:

 Juri, I *think* he's saying that the messages are named something like 
 the following:

 look *some*thing like this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 INBOX--9jjlf3l3%lijave399v.ellaf
 FooBar.Xanthes--ljklaie9937vaelkjali%lijaeslj
 FooBar--iuewnnv78eiou%oiuvalen.ievj0

Ahh, ok.

 If so, then... No. I don't think any IMAP system is currently using 
 such a mail format. -- And assuming I'm right in that belief, I further 
 believe that you would have to do some moderate-to-serious 
 (re-)programming to make an IMAP server (such as courier) understand 
 such a format.

Agreed.

 It is effectively a new (and quite distinct) variation on the Maildir 
 concept -- if my interpretation of what you mean is at all correct.

Tom:
What kind of webmail server are you using?

Cheers,
Juri



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Re: [courier-users] Re: problem with LOGIN command and script

2003-03-06 Thread imap bert
Hello! 
 
There is no such thing as an "+OK response" in IMAP 
 My mistake...the response according to the netscape messenger/ sniffer dump was OK 
 
 Any idea why IMAP works on messenger and not on my script?
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
imap bert writes:  When i telnet directly to port 143 and enter the LOGIN command manually, i keep getting NO responses from the server(i am using 1.7.0) instead of the +OK response.There is no such thing as an "+OK response" in IMAP. i suspected that the telnet client was at fault, but i've already tried 3 different telnet clients on win32 and linux(rh8.0).I suspect that you're trying to issue POP3 command to an IMAP server.That's not very likely to succeed.---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The debuggerfor complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost anddisoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major UNIXand Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com___courier-users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-usersDo you Yahoo!?
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RE: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Keith Mastin

 Yeah  - but that wouldn't be simple either - because the authentication
 DB has to return the correct values for IMAP access.

 I figured that in the API for maildir message access there would
 probably be a function that retrieved messages or opened a folder which
 would probably take Maildir  Folder as parameters. Assuming that pop3d
 might use such an API call, then it would simply be a matter of
 replacing 'INBOX' with 'INBOX/subfolder' or something to that effect.

 Thought that if any developers or hackers hung out here they might have
 a few pointers on the subject (Sam where art thou?).

 Thanks.

That might not be neccessary with a little imagination. Set up procmail to
deliver the mail to subfolders of INBOX, leaving only the mail to download
via pop3 in the INBOX. Then login and download away with pop3


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[courier-users] Re: problem with LOGIN command and script

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
imap bert writes:

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Hello!

There is no such thing as an +OK response in IMAP
    My mistake...the response according to the netscape messenger/ sniffer
dump was OK
    Any idea why IMAP works on messenger and not on my script?
How exactly do you expect anyone to answer that question when you haven't
even posted your script, not to mention the actual error message?
Sorry, all the telepaths are out to lunch right now.


 Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

imap bert writes:

     When i telnet directly to port 143 and enter the LOGIN command
 manually, i keep getting NO responses from the server(i am using 1.7.0)
 instead of the +OK response.
There is no such thing as an +OK response in IMAP.

 i suspected that the telnet client was at
 fault, but i've already tried 3 different telnet clients on win32 and
 linux(rh8.0).
I suspect that you're trying to issue POP3 command to an IMAP server.

That's not very likely to succeed.



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[courier-users] attachment

2003-03-06 Thread gorilla human
Hello all,
I have just migrated my mail system to qmail and i use
courier-imap on my system. I setup qmail-ldap cluster,
it work OK, but i get problem with attachment.

my mailbox is on machine A,
machine A run qmail and courier-imap,
machine B run courier-imap
I connect to machine A over imap to receive message,
it work OK.
I connect to machine B over imap to receive message, i
get problem when receive message with attachment, it
can not download attach file.

anyone can help me ??


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[courier-users] per user mailfilter files without shell access? What do I have to do?

2003-03-06 Thread Mitch \(WebCob\)
I'm using mysql from the auth daemon for virtual domains.

I have REAL unix accounts per user.

I want to run maildrop.

In most cases, I don't want the users to have shell access.

but when I create .courier:
|/usr/lib/courier/bin/maildrop /home/useraccount/.mailfilter

AND .mailfilter (owned by useraccount and chmod'd 600)

it fails to run unless the user has an operating shell.

Is there a way around this?

The users don't need to access their own mailfilters (they could be in
another location instead of the home directory) if this would help...

Any ideas?

m/



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[courier-users] authentication of default and virtual domains

2003-03-06 Thread zafar rizvi
hi ppl
i already put that question but get no answer ,r nobody has idea about that.
ok plz read it again...
 i am using qmail on redhat linux.i have one default domain of linux and
other 2 domain as virtual domains through vpopmail.
 imap authenticate the only virtual domain users.
Before installing vpopmail and configuring virtual domains ,it work the
default domain users.
so i want to authenticate both user through imap
but how...
so how can i authenticte both users through courier-imap


thanks
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RE: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?Any ideas?

2003-03-06 Thread Mitch \(WebCob\)
Hacking the pop server prooved effective for me... not that I'm endorsing it
or claiming it's problem free yet. Pretty simple though if you look at the
code. Which I should have waded through before asking I guess **insert
sheepish grin here**

I now have a second pop3d, running on an alternate port, that uses a
specific subfolder as it's source. If I got REALLY adventurous I might try
removing this folder from the visible list of IMAP folders, but I'll save
that for another day.

thanks.

m/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kurt
Bigler
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP
mail?Any ideas?


on 3/6/03 11:41 AM, Brian Candler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:04:10AM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 Perhaps I could run a second pop3 daemon customized to pull from a
specific
 folder?

 Would this be a big change? (Adding '/pop3' to the folder path)

 It's not that simple, because a folder is not in itself a Maildir. In
 particular, this would break quotas.

Quotas aside, is it strictly impossible for Maildirs to be nested?  I've
wondered the same thing for similar reasons - wanted to create a spam
subfolder that could be accessed via a separate pop account, possibly by
using a hyphenated suffix on the main account.

Potential IMAP access would also be desirable and I have to admit I
currently know nothing about how IMAP handles subfolders in relation to the
Maildir structure - because I have not installed IMAP yet (which is one of
the reasons I am lurking here).

But I figured off-hand that a Maildir could be directly inside another
Maildir (not inside of cur or new) without breaking anything much.

Isn't it just a question of whether the admin tools used to create/maintain
the overall directory structure of the Maildirs can handle it?  (Not that
that isn't a big requirement - but it might then just be a matter of working
out the details.)  And then of course, whatever IMAP issues I may be unaware
of.

-Kurt Bigler


 If it were that simple, you could just return the appropriate path to the
 Maildir from your authentication database.

 Regards,

 Brian.


 Can anyone suggest where I start looking in the code?

 thanks

 m/

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Candler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:47 AM
 To: Mitch (WebCob)
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail?
 Any ideas?


 On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0800, Mitch (WebCob) wrote:
 I apologize for the repost, but I didn't see any reply... not sure if my
 questions are too easy, too hard, or not getting out ;-) Thanks.

 You cannot pop from anything other than INBOX. Probably the easiest
solution
 is to set up a second mailbox and forward whichever messages you want to
be
 poppable into that.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch
 (WebCob)
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [courier-users] Need to POP for only SOME of the IMAP mail? Any
 ideas?


 Ideally, I want to be able to configure a user to POP some of their
 mail...
 First I thought of creating a special folder, and moving the special
 messages there... but how could I set the pop3d to read from a folder -
 not
 the main inbox?!?!?

 I can run a special authd and pop3d if that would help... I am
currently
 using the MySQL authd module.

 Most of the mail client work is done through IMAP, but for various
reasons
 some filtered messages (maildrop) would be preferentially pulled by POP,
 leaving other mail untouched... I'm looking for a simple solution -
 ideally,
 same username and password, but alter the server config to pull from
 Maildir/popmessages or something similar.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks in advance.

 m/



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