Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Doug Schaefer
t; Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 8:37 AM To: Cross project issues mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt Fyi, in a separate email to the Tools PMC mailing list, I have requested the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Doug Schaefer
On 2015-09-23, 8:41 AM, "cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org on behalf of Ed Willink" wrote: >Hi > >[I'm not clear why a new product is a problem with a 'maintenance' >release; I guess I've become too accustomed to traditional Eclipse >practices..] Or you missed the memo that these aren

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Thomas Watson
> > I think this is also something, which should be fixed directly in > the code, which reads or parses the /configuration/org.eclipse.osgi/ > framework.info.{x} file. > > Regards, > > Simon > The OSGi framework is behaving exactly the way you told it to. There is no bug in the framework he

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Ed Willink
Hi [I'm not clear why a new product is a problem with a 'maintenance' release; I guess I've become too accustomed to traditional Eclipse practices..] But given that it is there, this seems to be exactly why we have a quiet week. Let's fix it. The fix seems very low risk, and conversely the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Etienne Studer
Fyi, in a separate email to the Tools PMC mailing list, I have requested the Tools PMC to approve a re-spin of Mars 1 RC4. Etienne On 23.09.2015, at 11:55, Marcel Bruch wrote: > Hi Etienne, > >> Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times but only 2 >> people reported a pro

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Etienne Studer
Hi Marcel On 23.09.2015, at 11:55, Marcel Bruch wrote: > Hi Etienne, > >> Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times but only 2 >> people reported a problem > > > Well, I think this is not a strong indication for two reasons: > Eclipse-IDE-wide we see more than half a mill

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Martin Lippert
Hey! Strong +1 for a re-spin. Cheers, -Martin > Am 23.09.2015 um 12:04 schrieb Simon Scholz : > > Hi, > > the steps to reproduce the issue are: > > 1) Install Buildship with the version you want to test > 2) Create a new gradle project > > > > > 3) Go to the "Gradle Tasks" view and run

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
I opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478151 to track the arguments, discussion, decision and actions. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat My blog - My Tweets

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Stephan Eberle
+1 for a respin to avoid risk of negative impact on Eclipse users and how they think about Eclipse Stephan 2015-09-23 11:58 GMT+02:00 Lars Vogel : > +1 for a respin from my side > Am 23.09.2015 11:56 vorm. schrieb "Marcel Bruch" < > marcel.br...@codetrails.com>: > >> Hi Etienne, >> >> Since then

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/23/2015 11:55 AM, Marcel Bruch wrote: Well, I think this is not a strong indication for two reasons: 1. Eclipse-IDE-wide we see more than half a million submitted (automated) error reports in the last quarter - which boil down to twenty-thousand distinct problematic locations in s

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Lars Vogel
+1 for a respin from my side Am 23.09.2015 11:56 vorm. schrieb "Marcel Bruch" < marcel.br...@codetrails.com>: > Hi Etienne, > > Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times but only 2 > people reported a problem > > > Well, I think this is not a strong indication for two reasons: >

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Marcel Bruch
Hi Etienne, > Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times but only 2 > people reported a problem Well, I think this is not a strong indication for two reasons: Eclipse-IDE-wide we see more than half a million submitted (automated) error reports in the last quarter - which boi

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Dennis Hübner
Hi all, I’ve installed build ship in our DSL EPP Package (mac osx) and after launching a gradle task, eclipse keeps starting with a default workspace. Default means not the initial configured, but USER_HOME/workspace. Mars 1 is the first release where BuildShip is in. It would be a pity if it be

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Etienne Studer
Hi Marcel Only Buildship users that have launched at least one Gradle task from the Tasks View may be affected. And, even then, only two users have reported a problem with the workspace prompt so far. Please note that we introduced the call to bundle.start() on June 6th. Since then, Buildship

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/23/2015 11:16 AM, Etienne Studer wrote: This bug only reveals itself under certain conditions (otherwise it would have been detected/reported a long time ago). Simon was able to reproduce it. Simon, can you please describe the steps here. Thanks. Ah ok... I understood that this was happen

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Etienne Studer
This bug only reveals itself under certain conditions (otherwise it would have been detected/reported a long time ago). Simon was able to reproduce it. Simon, can you please describe the steps here. Thanks. Etienne On 23.09.2015, at 11:11, Mickael Istria wrote: > On 09/23/2015 11:09 AM, Etie

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/23/2015 11:09 AM, Etienne Studer wrote: Hi Mickael The bug discovered by the user recently has been there for months. It is just that nobody every experienced/reported that bug. Thus, the bug is in all versions of Buildship < 1.0.5. In RC4, we ship Buildship 1.0.3. The fact that the vers

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Etienne Studer
Hi Mickael The bug discovered by the user recently has been there for months. It is just that nobody every experienced/reported that bug. Thus, the bug is in all versions of Buildship < 1.0.5. In RC4, we ship Buildship 1.0.3. The fact that the version shows 1.0.2.something was a mistake on our

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
Hey, Actually, the RC4 candidate contains BuildShip *1.0.2* which doesn't seem to be affected with this blocker bug. So if there is no blocker bug with BuildShip 1.0.2, I believe there is no need to change anything on the SimRel/EPP side. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red H

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Marcel Bruch
I commented on the linked bug and currently strongly disagree with David’s opinion. Short: If every Eclipse user using the Java, Java EE, or RCP/RAP EPP Package is affected by this, then its no doubt a blocker. Then, I vote for a rebuild (and if necessary for postponing the release if necess

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-23 Thread Mickael Istria
My favourite NetBeans troll couldn't miss this opportunity https://twitter.com/ehsavoie/status/646583406176960512 Tha and my regular chats with various IDE users (I spend a few hours monthly trying to convince IntelliJ and NetBeans users that Eclipse IDE isn't that bad) make me feel that this i

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/23/2015 08:43 AM, Mickael Istria wrote: On 09/23/2015 08:35 AM, Etienne Studer wrote: Dave Williams gave directions on how to proceed with this problem: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478054 In short, there will be no respin of Mars 1. I've read David's comments there, and

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/23/2015 08:35 AM, Etienne Studer wrote: Dave Williams gave directions on how to proceed with this problem: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478054 In short, there will be no respin of Mars 1. I've read David's comments there, and I fully disagree with it (for the reasons ment

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Etienne Studer
Hi Dave Williams gave directions on how to proceed with this problem: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478054 In short, there will be no respin of Mars 1. Buildship 1.0.5 is available in the marketplace and contains the fix for this issue, incl. the contribution from Thomas. Thank

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Etienne Studer
omment to the defect with the details. > > Tom > > > > > > From:Etienne Studer > To:Cross project issues > Date:09/22/2015 12:08 PM > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with > Buildship

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Simon Scholz
Date: 09/22/2015 12:08 PM Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship/ workspace prompt Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org Hi In our _Gradle forum_ <ht

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Thomas Watson
I think the fix in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478054 is incorrect. I added a comment to the defect with the details. Tom From: Etienne Studer To: Cross project issues Date: 09/22/2015 12:08 PM Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Mickael Istria
By the way, thanks to your user for finding this issue; and thank you for fixing it promptly and letting us know. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat My blog - My Tweets

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/22/2015 07:07 PM, Etienne Studer wrote: In our Gradle forum , a user recently reported a problem with not seeing the workspace prompt when starting Eclipse and suspected that it

[cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt

2015-09-22 Thread Etienne Studer
Hi In our Gradle forum, a user recently reported a problem with not seeing the workspace prompt when starting Eclipse and suspected that it is related to Buildship. We created a BugZilla issue for this. After deeper investigations, Simon Scholz from Vogella GmbH eventually found the problem and