Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-04-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:47:45AM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >And so we end up at the position that we have ended up at so many times > >before: the GTCYM has to have a decent processor, a keyboard and a screen, > >and must be portable and secure. > >

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-04-16 Thread Peter Gutmann
Victor Duchovni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Lock USB down completely, or block most devices and allow approved ones? >There is a non-empty set folks doing the latter, which opens the possibility >of this type of device being permitted, while others are restricted. Lock it down completely. What

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-04-02 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:47:45AM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Actually there are already companies doing something like this Which ones do you think are doing a decent job of this? > but they've > run into a problem that no-one has ever considered so far: The GTCYM needs a > (relatively) high

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Steven J. Murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >You can get a fairly high-bandwidth channel with 2D barcodes. It's uni- >directional, but that's enough for many useful scenarios. The data gets shown >on the PC monitor and is captured by a ubiquitous camera-phone or a dedicated >locked-down device

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-04-02 Thread Steven J. Murdoch
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:47:45AM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Actually there are already companies doing something like this, but they've > run into a problem that no-one has ever considered so far: The GTCYM needs a > (relatively) high-bandwidth connection to a remote server, and there's no eas

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-31 Thread Peter Gutmann
Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >And so we end up at the position that we have ended up at so many times >before: the GTCYM has to have a decent processor, a keyboard and a screen, >and must be portable and secure. > >One day we'll stop concluding this and actually do something about it. A

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-28 Thread James A. Donald
Ben Laurie wrote: > Then we get to the next problem: we don't trust the > device with the keypad and display. So, we need to add > that to the GTCYM (Gadget That Controls Your Money). > > And so we end up at the position that we have ended up > at so many times before: the GTCYM has to have a > de

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-27 Thread Allen
Ben Laurie wrote: [snip] And so we end up at the position that we have ended up at so many times before: the GTCYM has to have a decent processor, a keyboard and a screen, and must be portable and secure. One day we'll stop concluding this and actually do something about it. And it can a

Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-26 Thread Ben Laurie
Perry E. Metzger wrote: Nothing terribly new here -- short interview with someone who bought an RFID credit card reader on ebay for $8 and demonstrates getting people's credit card information at short distances using it. Still, it is interesting to see how trivial it is to do. http://www.boingb

how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

2008-03-21 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Nothing terribly new here -- short interview with someone who bought an RFID credit card reader on ebay for $8 and demonstrates getting people's credit card information at short distances using it. Still, it is interesting to see how trivial it is to do. http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/19/bbtv-