Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Gabriele Romanato
2006/10/15, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi David, Christian, and Gabriele, Gabriele wrote: http://www.css-zibaldone.com/the-css-switch-project/november-2006/shapes/ a little tribute to Tantek and Mark Schenk. enjoy! ps. I've not specified the exact versions of the various

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Erik van Dyck
Hi Gabriele, I fully endorse your view. Usefulness can be value in many cases, in art and games and in many other situations it isn't. It's not needed either. Happily Leonardo and Michelangelo and Dante had a larger view on life than just usefulness. Erik -Oorspronkelijk

[css-d] suckerfish dropdown gone after first selection in IE

2006-10-15 Thread Ido Dekkers
Hello i have a problem with the suckerfish menu drop down- all works well in FF but when i use IE6/5.5, after selecting one of the drop downs, no drop down appears again till i select a menu item with no drop down first. the site is in Hebrew but you can still see the problem if you select

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]]

2006-10-15 Thread Designer
Chris Williams wrote: I have this problem, and I use nbsp;space and not nbsp;nbsp;. I find that works, and I haven't seen the space at the beginning problem. It seems that UA's can handle the nbsp; at the end of the line OK. I do this replacement with a simple regex in my PHP code. HTH,

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gabriele Romanato wrote: http://www.css-zibaldone.com/the-css-switch-project/november-2006/shapes/ Experiments are not useful strictu sensu. that's the basic difference. I can't ignore this difference. your criticism is very similar to literary criticism: would be this poem useful?

Re: [css-d] Site check and feedback requested - salonind

2006-10-15 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/10/12 21:54 (GMT-0700) jean korte apparently typed: Can Mac users please check this site? http://www.jeankorte.netfirms.com/index.html Also, my client (IE version??) says that the indigo background image in the header is showing under the pictures. It is supposed to line up and it

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Gabriele Romanato
2006/10/15, Erik van Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Gabriele, I fully endorse your view. Usefulness can be value in many cases, in art and games and in many other situations it isn't. It's not needed either. Happily Leonardo and Michelangelo and Dante had a larger view on life than just

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Gabriele Romanato
2006/10/15, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gabriele Romanato wrote: http://www.css-zibaldone.com/the-css-switch-project /november-2006/shapes/ Experiments are not useful strictu sensu. that's the basic difference. I can't ignore this difference. your criticism is very similar to

[css-d] even width 2 column layout with header

2006-10-15 Thread WV Mike
Greetings, I am trying to get an even width 2 column layout with header and footer. Here is my frankenstein attempt: http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/2col-withheader/ I plan to use it for 2 columns of photos with comments similar to: http://EpicRoadTrips.us/2006/summer/ Any help would be

[css-d] Firefox vs. IE

2006-10-15 Thread Fabienne
I have changed the navigation on this website: http://www.possets.com The CSS is here: http://www.possets.com/scent/scent.css I decided to use a style of navbar which was displayed on A List Apart and is known as the suckerfish dropdown. It is composed of CSS styling and a bit of script. My

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gabriele Romanato wrote: thank you very much Georg. . but Christian has his reasons that cannot be ignored. I'll have to take an extra care when I post my tests. FWIW: I wasn't trying to be helpful in this particular case, but I don't like _unnecessary_ restrictions on what can be done and

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]]

2006-10-15 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:15:59 +0100 Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: declare: i {padding-right : 1em; } then use i./i in the text. Not brilliant, certainly not semantic, but it seems to work. I wanted to avoid a long 'span' and use a simple (short) tag. I doubt that anyone can

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]]

2006-10-15 Thread Carol Brizzi
Hi... I am new to this list and to CSS so I am not sure if my suggestion is even in the ball park. It does seem to me though, that you could use white-space:pre; and then make whatever extra spaces you want in the content in the code window. It should follow your spacing and layout exactly.

[css-d] Shining examples of CSS-driven nonprofit corporate sites?

2006-10-15 Thread Tim Ware
I'm working on a project where I'm doing the coding/programming for a company that has hired a designer who is really print-based and doesn't have a clue about modern design. They ask that I provide examples of this approach to design. I need help with this. It's not as easy as I thought

[css-d] a beginners guide to CSS

2006-10-15 Thread Mike NA
http://80c12.info/DES311J1/03/walkthrough/index.html Got this link from my course at uni if its any use to anyone.. Mike:) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub

Re: [css-d] Firefox vs. IE

2006-10-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Fabienne wrote: I have changed the navigation on this website: http://www.possets.com My problem is that this navbar works well in Firefox, but does not work consistently in IE. --Fabienne Fabienne, FWIW, best to provide a valid file for debugging. It may do little to improve the

Re: [css-d] Shining examples of CSS-driven nonprofit corporate sites?

2006-10-15 Thread Aveek Bhattacharya
Hello Tim, I'm not sure if these will do (some of them are not corporate but concept sites), but they are shining examples of CSS-based designs: First, there's your site! Then there's Yahoo! (at least the home page) MIT www.mit.edu CSS Zen garden www.csszengarden.com Max Design

Re: [css-d] CSS shapes

2006-10-15 Thread Ian Young
Sent: 15 October 2006 18:33 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS shapes Css-discuss covers all stages, from beginner to advanced. Let it be so. Georg Very eloquent as ever. Whilst we should be as tolerant as we can be on all matters CSS, I am uncomfortable with

Re: [css-d] Shining examples of CSS-driven nonprofit corporate sites?

2006-10-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Tim Ware wrote: I'm working on a project where I'm doing the coding/programming for a company that has hired a designer who is really print-based and doesn't have a clue about modern design. They ask that I provide examples of this approach to design. I need help with this. It's not

Re: [css-d] a beginners guide to CSS

2006-10-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Mike NA wrote: http://80c12.info/DES311J1/03/walkthrough/index.html Got this link from my course at uni if its any use to anyone.. Mike:) Yes, I am sure it will be helpful. Thank you. ~dL PS What University do you attend? -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]]

2006-10-15 Thread Richard Grevers
On 10/16/06, Carol Brizzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi... I am new to this list and to CSS so I am not sure if my suggestion is even in the ball park. It does seem to me though, that you could use white-space:pre; and then make whatever extra spaces you want in the content in the code

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris McLay
PS -- it is very correct, it is NOT something for old English teachers. The Chicago manual, the latest Strunk and White editions, and many others, still use it. Just because a random entry in Wikipedia and the AP don't do it, doesn't mean it's not right... And browsers don't do it

Re: [css-d] even width 2 column layout with header

2006-10-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
WV Mike wrote: I am trying to get an even width 2 column layout with header and footer. http://epicroadtrips.us/2006/2col-withheader/ Do you mean: what you will get if you add... #rightcol { display: table; zoom:1; } ... ? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Williams
Thank you for your opinion. It is my opinion that my text-heavy site is vastly more readable with double spaces after the period. And the fix is hardly messy and complicated (simple preg_replace functions). Many references prefer it, I've found few if any that say don't. Most say what your

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris McLay
On 16/10/2006, at 7:54 AM, Chris Williams wrote: Thank you for your opinion. It is my opinion that my text-heavy site is vastly more readable with double spaces after the period. And the fix is hardly messy and complicated (simple preg_replace functions). Simple for some, yes, but not

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Williams
Excuse me, a non-breaking space is EXACTLY what I mean... From: Chris McLay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] Double space after a period ... that don't require hacks (using a non breaking space where that is not what you mean)

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread michael ensor
As someone who worked as a proof reader on a morning newspaper in the hot metal days, I can tell you that the double space after a period was a function of the typesetting machines, because the full stop slug and the following capital letter 'created' that appearance, not some received style

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris McLay
No it's not. You want a larger space for legibility. This used to be done on some systems by a space followed by a another space. Which HTML renders as a single space. On other systems there (as mentioned in another post) was a fixed space as part of the full stop, or the use of a larger

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 16/10/2006, at 10:30 AM, michael ensor wrote: As someone who worked as a proof reader on a morning newspaper in the hot metal days, I can tell you that the double space after a period was a function of the typesetting machines, because the full stop slug and the following capital

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Zach Shepherd
Accepted and very correct have two different definitions as far as I'm concerned (how can something be very correct anyway?) Would creating a hack to force the display of two spaces not be akin to using tags improperly (such as using a h1 tag simply to make big text)? I do agree that with mono

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Williams
Please stop telling me what I want. I want two spaces. Period (pun intended). I want the width of the white space following a full stop to be exactly twice the width of the space between words. That is, two spaces in the current font. Therefore, I want a browser to give me two spaces, one

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Szymanski
Chris Williams wrote: Please stop telling me what I want. I want two spaces. Period (pun intended). I want the width of the white space following a full stop to be exactly twice the width of the space between words. That is, two spaces in the current font. Therefore, I want a browser to

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Williams
Then it also must have problems with the many instances of other special characters (rdquo;, #8320;, etc., etc.) Many web pages have dozens of these. The Google homepage, arguably the most visited page on the web, has a couple dozen nbsp; and another few raquo; characters. This is, therefore, a

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris McLay
Stop picking up tiny bits of what I write to get angry about. Read all of what I've written and you'll see I haven't actually told you to do or not do anything in any of my messages. What I wrote in my email (all of it) matches what you've written below. Simply: - you want two spaces, which

Re: [css-d] Double space after a period

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Williams
Who's attacking who? I provided a way to do it (a hack to you), that does it reliably for me. I was asked to provide that to the list. I did. You attacked it as messy and complicated with little value. From: Chris McLay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] Double space after a period Why