Re: [css-d] thanks and gallery links wanted

2006-10-22 Thread ~davidLaakso
~davidLaakso wrote: Or follow this tutorial for a float gallery and roll your own :-) Whoops! The missing link to the tutorial is: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0401.htm ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

Re: [css-d] Specifying CSS definition via HTML attributes IE6

2006-10-22 Thread Alex Robinson
Attribute selectors are part of CSS 2. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html#attribute-selectors Whoops - David is absolutely right. It was only Substring matching attribute selectors that got added in CSS3. I plain forgot that attribute selectors predated that.

Re: [css-d] Conditional (x)HTML

2006-10-22 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building a site where I'm trying to keep content first in the source. [mega trim] I guess I am missing something? Twenty-eight of the 40 layouts on this page http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ are three column layouts with the content fist in the source order.

Re: [css-d] h2 tags with padding don't hover properly

2006-10-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
note: links for this subject are at: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/ hey roger... style sheets for above pages are at: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/new-menu.css - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/new-menu-19c.css also roger - note that

Re: [css-d] h2 tags with padding don't hover properly

2006-10-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ok - try the pages directly: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/dev19b_menu-only.html - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/dev19c_menu-only.html thanx! sorry to confuse you... =fgx= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message: - From: Roger Roelofs

[css-d] SOS almost there

2006-10-22 Thread Schalk Neethling
Greetings All, I am using son of suckerfish for my menu and I am almost there. I have gotten the drop downs to not be all the way over to the right but, they are still not below the top nav button/link as it should be (IE). Can someone please have a look and let me know where I am going wrong.

Re: [css-d] background image problem

2006-10-22 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Tee G. Peng wrote: Hi, I am doing a page that I can't change the markup and source order (think CSS zen garden!), and is facing a problem with background image. The markup looks like so div id=wrap divcontent goes here /div divmore content ... /div div id=footer

[css-d] absolute positioning bug

2006-10-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
page w/ absolute position works fine in most or all browsers, except IE 6 is off by one pixel right, and one pixel bottom... anybody know why? - http://www.fatgraffix.com/testing/test-absolute-position/absolute-test.html thanx all. =fgx= [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] IE6 or IE7 Standalones

2006-10-22 Thread Storm, Dan
If this is off topic, please accept my apologies reply off-list. Like many of you, I would like IE6 and IE7 on the same box. I've been told that standalones of the IE browsers don't guarantee the same display/performance as the integrated versions because of shared DLLs, i.e. there is no true

[css-d] z-index and stacking order

2006-10-22 Thread Mike Davies
I am trying to get my head around the concept of stacking order, so far unsuccessfully. I have a site at www.cromartyview.com. I would like the thistle image, which is a background image on #wrapper to appear over the main image, #headimage which is in div#container. I think my problem is in

Re: [css-d] floats, fieldsets, and margins

2006-10-22 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Matt Tibbits wrote: I have a fieldset within a fieldset, I cannot put a top margin on the nested fieldset. Here’s a silly little example: HYPERLINK http://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.phphttp://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.php It doesn’t seem to matter whether or not there is text floated to

Re: [css-d] margin: 0 auto and float dont work together

2006-10-22 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 10/20/06, Martin Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have one div with static width and height and a dynamic content from on to three divs with static width and height which have to be centered. To get them in one line, I use float: left. To center them I tried margin: 0 auto; But it

[css-d] Inaccesible column items

2006-10-22 Thread Pablo
Hi everyone! This is not a specificaly css related topic, but has a lot to do with it. I'm using DirectX filters to render the png alpha layers on IE. I'm used it in several elements but when it comes to the column that contains the search and links sections something weird happens. I can't

Re: [css-d] h2 tags with padding don't hover properly

2006-10-22 Thread francky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see link below with two menus: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/ 1) in first menu, hover of main headings (h2 tags) work fine as long as zero padding is applied to the h2 tags 2) in second menu, hover of h2 tags don't catch the padded areas of the h2

[css-d] Page-break-before/IE7... anyone know where we post IE7/CSS bugs now that the beta support is closed?

2006-10-22 Thread Alan K. Gay
My issue is with print-break-before:always in combination with any page contents that have a height spec. Pagination is ignored. Submitted about 45 days ago to the MS beta feedback site, and also to http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/bro

[css-d] PVII horz tabbed nav alignment help please

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
Hello, I'm Deb and am brand new to this group as of a few days ago. I have been a very basic css w/tables user for several years and the past year I've ventured into more use of css trying to learn something new and apply it as often as possible. I just am getting into table-less design so

[css-d] IE7 is stealing my content!

2006-10-22 Thread jennifer ham
I don't know how else to describe it. Even my super simple testcase features the awesome new issue I have discovered. http://stalkinggear.com/ie7testcase/what.html Nothing inside of .left shows up! I'm not entirely certain if it's taking up space or not, but I can tell you that it's not missing,

[css-d] IE 7 - Extra padding-top

2006-10-22 Thread Nate Kresse
Hello All, I came across a situation where IE7 (fresh copy downloaded today) inserts extra padding-top when applied to an element inside a cleared div that comes after a floated div. It also seems like it is related to using the shortcut to apply a background color. Check out my test case here:

Re: [css-d] page check!!

2006-10-22 Thread Administration
Hi list, Cross browser check please. http://www.highburytearooms.com.au http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/highbury.css There are a couple of errors that I am aware and I would like some help in sorting them out. IE 6.0 two layers not showing up . I have fooled around with z-index etc to no

[css-d] clearing logo in print output

2006-10-22 Thread Maren Child
This is so silly, I can't clear the logo in the print output. I did have it, briefly and only in Firefox, but then I changed something to fix it in IE and it's not clearing again. I can't see why the clearing div isn't working, since it works on the screen. Thanks Maren

Re: [css-d] floats, fieldsets, and margins

2006-10-22 Thread francky
Matt Tibbits wrote: [...] http://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.phphttp://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.php It doesn’t seem to matter whether or not there is text floated to the left of this nested fieldset element. I’m thinking that it probably has something to do with the preceeding inline element

[css-d] IE border quirk

2006-10-22 Thread Linda Quinn
Something strange is happening in IE6 (as usual). I am creating a page, using Safari/Mac as my default browser - then every time I upload a change I check it on PC in IE6/Win. Everything was laid out in the correct position on both browsers - the page can be seen at:

[css-d] some sort of problem.

2006-10-22 Thread Jon Hughes
http://www.phazm.net/stamps/products.html If you view this page in FF it's fine, but IE kinda... doesn't like it. I have no idea what's wrong with it though (still learning the IE hacks) - can someone help me? (I use digest, so please reply to my email directly if you can) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] Nested divs, constrain one within the other.

2006-10-22 Thread Mario Merino
http://proximita.com/garnierarq/proyectos-garnier-arquitectos.html http://proximita.com/garnierarq/garnier.css Hello, thanks for your time. In the html page above (table/css) #DivNoTable is the container for #imgCont, and I cant get #imgCont to constrain itselft to #DivNoTable. I want

[css-d] how to prevent 'stuttering' browser rendering with e.g. images

2006-10-22 Thread Beate De Nijs
Hello, when images (and probably also some div id s) don't get width/height set on the page, the rendering in the browser can look 'stuttering'. divs and texts appear earlier, images start to appear and push the content further down or the side. another behaviour is that at short pages the

[css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
Hello to you all, I'm new to the list and this is actually my 2nd post. I never did see my first post hit the list nor any responses so I'm going to try again. I'm Deb and it's nice to meet all of you. I've been designing for about 10-11 years now but always w/tables. Over the past few years

Re: [css-d] PVII horz tabbed nav alignment help please

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 04:55 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote: CSS is here: http://www.cedarcreekimages.com/new/p7tbm/p7tbm_center_08.css Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. You can disregard this. This post was sent a day or two ago and just hit the list now. The issue has been resolved in the mean

Re: [css-d] IE7 is stealing my content!

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Chao
jennifer ham wrote: ... http://stalkinggear.com/ie7testcase/what.html Nothing inside of .left shows up! ... For fun I tried playing with z-indexes. I tried floating everything inside .left (blindly hoping maybe this had somethin to do with hasLayout). Nothing changes. ... Disappearance

Re: [css-d] IE 7 - Extra padding-top

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Nate Kresse wrote: I came across a situation where IE7 (fresh copy downloaded today) inserts extra padding-top when applied to an element inside a cleared div that comes after a floated div. It also seems like it is related to using the shortcut to apply a background color. ...

Re: [css-d] IE 7 - Extra padding-top

2006-10-22 Thread ~davidLaakso
Nate Kresse wrote: Hello All, I came across a situation where IE7 (fresh copy downloaded today) inserts extra padding-top when applied to an element inside a cleared div that comes after a floated div. It also seems like it is related to using the shortcut to apply a background color.

Re: [css-d] Page-break-before/IE7... anyone know where we post IE7/CSS bugs now that the beta support is closed?

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Alan K. Gay wrote: My issue is with print-break-before:always in combination with any page contents that have a height spec. Pagination is ignored. ... This is the sample code that breaks when printed. Each div should be at the top of a page, but they are not.

[css-d] suckerfish should go over text

2006-10-22 Thread Ross Hulford
http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/test.php the css __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ --

[css-d] sukckerfish over text

2006-10-22 Thread Ross Hulford
I'll try again.. The html http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/test.php the css http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/css/ The problem is suckerfish goes behind the text (performance and events). Any help would be appreciated. I have had this problem berfore due to the dropdowns being

Re: [css-d] how to prevent 'stuttering' browser rendering with e.g. images

2006-10-22 Thread Christian Heilmann
when images (and probably also some div id s) don't get width/height set on the page, the rendering in the browser can look 'stuttering'. divs and texts appear earlier, images start to appear and push the content further down or the side. another behaviour is that at short pages the

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Chao
PBC Web Design wrote: ... I have an issue in NS7 on this page: http://www.cedarcreekimages.com/new/ If you view in IE6 or FF, Opera 9 you'll note there is a letter *I* image at the beginning of the first paragraph. The problem is in NS7 the image doesn't show up. ...

Re: [css-d] absolute positioning bug

2006-10-22 Thread francky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: page w/ absolute position works fine in most or all browsers, except IE 6 is off by one pixel right, and one pixel bottom... anybody know why? http://www.fatgraffix.com/testing/test-absolute-position/absolute-test.html Hi Francis, I didn't investigate this 1px

Re: [css-d] sukckerfish over text

2006-10-22 Thread Brian Zollinhofer
Try adding a z-index to your #menu_holder. That should bring it above the rest of your material. I used z-index: 10; and it seemed to do the trick. On 10/22/06, Ross Hulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try again.. The html http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/test.php the css

Re: [css-d] sukckerfish over text

2006-10-22 Thread Ross Hulford
Works in ff but IE, (would you believe it?) Ignores this property. Any other options? http://www.aplus.co.yu/lab/z-pos/ Ross - Original Message - From: Brian Zollinhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [css-d]

Re: [css-d] sukckerfish over text

2006-10-22 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi, IE does not like this for some reason. It is totallty ignoring it. #nav li:hover ul { top:30px; z-index:2000; } Is your javascript correct. I have never used the Son Of Suckerfish. anyone else? Ross - Original Message - From: Schalk Neethling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ross

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 07:36 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote: PBC Web Design wrote: ... I have an issue in NS7 on this page: http://www.cedarcreekimages.com/new/ If you view in IE6 or FF, Opera 9 you'll note there is a letter *I* image at the beginning of the first paragraph. The problem is in NS7 the image

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
PBC Web Design wrote: background: url(images/letter-I.gif) no-repeat 35px 0px; N7 does not follow the newer 2.1 here. I tried it, then the image doesn't show up in IE or Firefox. I tried it too, and the image shows up just fine in the mentioned browsers. Can you show us the style-version

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 10:27 AM 10/22/2006, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: PBC Web Design wrote: background: url(images/letter-I.gif) no-repeat 35px 0px; N7 does not follow the newer 2.1 here. I tried it, then the image doesn't show up in IE or Firefox. I tried it too, and the image shows up just fine in the

Re: [css-d] absolute positioning bug

2006-10-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: page w/ absolute position works fine in most or all browsers, except IE 6 is off by one pixel right, and one pixel bottom... anybody know why? http://www.fatgraffix.com/testing/test-absolute-position/absolute-test.html IE6 isn't any good at calculating with odd

Re: [css-d] sukckerfish over text

2006-10-22 Thread Schalk Neethling
Ross Hulford wrote: Hi, IE does not like this for some reason. It is totallty ignoring it. #nav li:hover ul { top:30px; z-index:2000; } Is your javascript correct. I have never used the Son Of Suckerfish. anyone else? Ross Yes, IE does not understand li:hover that is why there is

[css-d] Div positioning

2006-10-22 Thread Pete Home
I'm trying to produce tabular type layout for venues and gigs using divs where I end up with something like this; VENU 1

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
PBC Web Design wrote: I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean, George. Would you explain a little bit more, please? Well, you wrote the image doesn't show up in IE or Firefox when you tried this... background: url(images/letter-I.gif) no-repeat 35px 0px; ...but since that piece of style

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 11:02 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote: PBC Web Design wrote: background: url(images/letter-I.gif) no-repeat 35px 0px; ...but since that piece of style worked just fine in IE and Firefox at my end for a copy of your page, it left me wondering what made it *not* work at your end. There must be a

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Chao
PBC Web Design wrote: ... http://www.cedarcreekimages.com/new/3col-layout.html and here is the css for it: http://www.cedarcreekimages.com/new/css/cci3columns2test.css I copy/pasted your code in so I was sure I used what you sent and commented out mine. The letter I image is not

Re: [css-d] image not showing up in NS7

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 11:33 AM 10/22/2006, Ingo Chao wrote: you forgot to copy/paste the semicolon. Ohmahgosh! Yes, I did and when I went in and fixed it - the image is now showing up even in NS7 - problem solved! Thank you Georg for the fix and Ingo for pointing out my mistake! :: Deb | PBC Web Design ::

Re: [css-d] Proper float behavior question

2006-10-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Jared Stein wrote: Hey folks, I'm trying to figure out what the proper behavior is for the following simple example: [code snipped IE 6 Win allows #elthree to set the position it's top outer edge to the top outer edge of #elone. Firefox Win only allows

Re: [css-d] Strange Navigation Menu Problems

2006-10-22 Thread Roger Roelofs
Henry, On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Henry Felton wrote: Could I get some help on a new site I'm doing? The navigation menu is a normal drop down system; but the drop down parts aren't inline with their parent. Its obvious if you look at the site (www.oscar-radio.org/ static) only

Re: [css-d] Strange Navigation Menu Problems

2006-10-22 Thread Henry Felton
FF seems OK but any ideas on IE? On 22/10/06, Roger Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henry, On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Henry Felton wrote: Could I get some help on a new site I'm doing? The navigation menu is a normal drop down system; but the drop down parts aren't inline with

[css-d] Strange Navigation Menu Problems

2006-10-22 Thread Henry Felton
Hi guys, Could I get some help on a new site I'm doing? The navigation menu is a normal drop down system; but the drop down parts aren't inline with their parent. Its obvious if you look at the site (www.oscar-radio.org/static) only working in IE as yet. The movement away from where they should

Re: [css-d] Strange Navigation Menu Problems

2006-10-22 Thread Ian Young
Subject: Re: [css-d] Strange Navigation Menu Problems FF seems OK but any ideas on IE? Actually FF isn't ok. Menu works but content is waaay down the page. You need to validate your html tho'. see: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oscar-radio.org %2Fstatic Also

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Is there a way to test how a site looks in all the major browsers online? I have a Mac and I run FF 1.5. It is useless for me to test on IE 5 for Mac as it is now obsolete. I don't want to have to fire up my old Dell laptop to test a site. So is there a way to check how a site looks

[css-d] Proper float behavior question

2006-10-22 Thread Jared Stein
Hey folks, I'm trying to figure out what the proper behavior is for the following simple example: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html head titleYo/title style #elone { width: 20%;

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread Robert L. Hicks
I also use a Mac. I ran across this site this morning: http://www.browsercam.com/default.aspx. It isn't free, but it would cost a fortune to have access to everything they offer. They do have a free trial. I'm going to give it a whirl to see how it works. -Bob On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:22 PM,

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread marcello09
http://browsershots.org/ At the moment it's a free service, so enjoy it while it lasts! Of course, it only shows you how your site will *look* in a particular browser. There's no way to test the functionality. As far as I know, there's no WebDev equivalent for IE. -- Marcello -

[css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread Brian Zollinhofer
Is there a way to test how a site looks in all the major browsers online? I have a Mac and I run FF 1.5. It is useless for me to test on IE 5 for Mac as it is now obsolete. I don't want to have to fire up my old Dell laptop to test a site. So is there a way to check how a site looks online?

[css-d] Test_please_1

2006-10-22 Thread Administration
Hi list, I would appreciate a cross browser check please!! http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/ http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/highbury.css Site page renders fine in both FF 1.5 and IE 6 Experiencing problems with Opera 9.0.1 where the page font is smaller than in the other browsers.

Re: [css-d] Test_please_1

2006-10-22 Thread ~davidLaakso
Administration wrote: http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/ http://www.highburytearooms.com.au/highbury.css Site page renders fine in both FF 1.5 and IE 6 Experiencing problems with Opera 9.0.1 where the page font is smaller than in the other browsers. Keno. Keno, I did not see the

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread Julie Hathaway
On Oct 22, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Is there a way to test how a site looks in all the major browsers online? I have a Mac and I run FF 1.5. It is useless for me to test on IE 5 for Mac as it is now obsolete. I don't want to have to fire up my old Dell laptop to test a

[css-d] cascading problem with tables

2006-10-22 Thread David Bailey
Hi, I'm having a problem with text size in a series of tables on one page. The text on each page seems to get smaller on each table, especially with the list texts, and heightened with nested lists. I have tried all sorts of things to try and remedy this, but something is escaping me. I'm

Re: [css-d] some sort of problem.

2006-10-22 Thread francky
Jon Hughes wrote: http://www.phazm.net/stamps/products.html If you view this page in FF it's fine, Hi Jon, It's fine ... until the visitor is enlarging the font-size with one or more steps (then the placeholders are shifting away) ... Screenshot-1

[css-d] disappearing text

2006-10-22 Thread Daniel
http://dragonofchaos.net/play/ When I try the above page in IE the blockquote disappears. Works fine in Firefox Netscape. The gray above the picture I'm pretty sure is a png problem. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] cascading problem with tables

2006-10-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:31 AM, David Bailey wrote: I'm having a problem with text size in a series of tables on one page. The text on each page seems to get smaller on each table, especially with the list texts, and heightened with nested lists. I have tried all sorts of things to try and

Re: [css-d] cascading problem with tables

2006-10-22 Thread David Bailey
Hi Philippe, Thanks for your comments. However, I'm not sure why you have made this comment (unless I'm missing something, which is quite possible), as the .resultTable li, li li selector is actually commented out (it was just an experiment, which I should delete). I am aware that the li

Re: [css-d] IE border quirk

2006-10-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Linda Quinn wrote: www.lifeonwheels.com/beta2. Question - why would removing the border declaration cause the entire left column to move? It was my understanding that a border is not part of the actual container, only an outline. Borders affect interaction between elements under certain

Re: [css-d] disappearing text

2006-10-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Daniel wrote: http://dragonofchaos.net/play/ When I try the above page in IE the blockquote disappears. Works fine in Firefox Netscape. IE-win's stacking problems... Add... blockquote {position: relative;} ...to make it stay on top and be visible. regards Georg --

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Julie Hathaway wrote: On Oct 22, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: IMHO, you should still make sure that your sites are accessible in ie Mac. Regarding emulators à la Browsercam, there are many issues screenshots do not reveal. It is better to use a service like BC-Remote because it

Re: [css-d] Web Testing

2006-10-22 Thread PBC Web Design
At 05:40 PM 10/22/2006, Robert L. Hicks wrote: I also use a Mac. I ran across this site this morning: http://www.browsercam.com/default.aspx. It isn't free, but it would cost a fortune to have access to everything they offer. They do have a free trial. I'm going to give it a whirl to see how it

[css-d] css list

2006-10-22 Thread Brian Jones
Hi, I have a 16px x 16px image that I want to set as the background image of a li how would i go about setting my css to accomplish this Thanx __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d