[css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Chen
Hi, Is there a recommended way to do in-frame navigation with CSS (replacement for frameset)? Currently I am implementing that by toggling divs between display: block and display: none. Two annoying things are: (1) This looks like an ugly hack to me. Objection? (2) Ideally the menu list

Re: [css-d] rtl languages - dir=rtl not working for title tag... somehow should CSS be involved?

2007-03-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Web Developer wrote: Seems like the content I want to use for right to left language isnt working in the title tag. The problem is difficult to analyze, and it was particularly difficult at first to me, since by email program displayed the Arabic letters as spaces, so the

Re: [css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
~davidLaakso wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/san/test_07_3350.html Georg, your example gets both the IE7.0 and Opera seal of approval. It is the original authors page that Opera was unhappy with. I know :-) Whatever became of Jon Hughes, anyway? Dunno. Lots

Re: [css-d] media=print/css problems with IE7 - fixed

2007-03-06 Thread Bruce MacKay
The solution to this problem was the removal of width: auto; from the css #wrap,#content { width: auto; margin: 0 5%; padding: 0; border: 0; float: none !important; color: black; background: transparent none; font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif; } I'm afraid

[css-d] safari check/ Background position issues

2007-03-06 Thread David Sharp
Hi Listers, The site www.syntony.org/2007/diary.html Don't have access to a mac, so am using snugtech to get screenshots, but it seems to chop most of my page off at the higher screen widths. I'm hoping this is a problem with the screenshot, and not with my site. Also on this particular page

Re: [css-d] safari check/ Background position issues

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Sharp wrote: www.syntony.org/2007/diary.html The problems you noticed in Safari are real - same in my Safari 2.0.4. I noticed a couple of other problems across browser-land, so here's a reworked styleset for navigation and a couple of additions to go with it. -- /* corrected

Re: [css-d] safari check/ Background position issues

2007-03-06 Thread Ingo Chao
David Sharp wrote: Hi Listers, The site www.syntony.org/2007/diary.html Don't have access to a mac, so am using snugtech to get screenshots, but it seems to chop most of my page off at the higher screen widths. I'm hoping this is a problem with the screenshot, and not with my site.

[css-d] turning off the text in a menu

2007-03-06 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a top leve' menu Item that are buttons. I need to turn the text off but display:none hide the button too. li class=topmenulia href=../home/index.php class=homeHome /a /li Is it good practice to turn of the text like this #dmenu .home { font-size:0px; } It seems wrong. Is there an

Re: [css-d] turning off the text in a menu

2007-03-06 Thread Barney Carroll
I've tried implementing 'honest' tricks of obscured and shrinked-to-invisibility text (like yours) for such things, and as far as I've found they're completely unreliable. Most devices have a minimum text size option, and on many this is turned on by default - for example, Opera and Safari

Re: [css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page

2007-03-06 Thread Jon Hughes
PS I hope the original author will set a background-color. I am getting tired of getting slammed with a face full of fuchsia every time I open his page in my version of Opera :-P . --- Should be done now :) Thank you all for being so helpful. This list is so fantastic :) - Jon

[css-d] A few odd buttons in IE in a shopping cart

2007-03-06 Thread Rob Stevenson
Hello, The site is valid XHTML. http://www.artcardshop.com/store And the CSS validates, (both stylesheets)... http://www.artcardshop.com/store/includes/templates/sage/css/ stylesheet.css http://www.artcardshop.com/store/includes/templates/sage/css/ stylesheet_css_buttons.css The second

Re: [css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page

2007-03-06 Thread ~davidLaakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/san/test_07_3350.html [notes regarding methedology for100% tall scaling have been trimmed] Regarding those conditional commented spaces for IE6, does the above test-page satisfy the criteria in IE6 (and 5.x/win) - without any CC'ed

Re: [css-d] turning off the text in a menu

2007-03-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Ross Hulford wrote: I have a top leve' menu Item that are buttons. From your sample code, I gather that they are links that have been formatted in CSS to look like buttons. (As usual, a URL would have helped.) I need to turn the text off but display:none hide the button

Re: [css-d] Wrapping Radio Buttons

2007-03-06 Thread Spellacy, Michael
You're excluding the simplest and most logical approach, but as you wish I'm trying to prove a point at work that CSS can be used to handle most, if not all layout possibilities without tables. My fellow developers here still code like it's 1999. This is a very nice solution. Thank you. I'll be

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Simple Rounded corners not rounding.. need help setting up javascript correctly.

2007-03-06 Thread ~davidLaakso
Noah Learner wrote: The page concerned is at http://www.bartlettsfarm.com/new/inseason.html. I have validated the html and the javascript still doesn't work. Any help would REALLY REALLY REALLY be great. Noah The markup is not valid on the several pages I checked. Back-up the

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Mark Lundquist
Hi Chris, On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:35 AM, Chris Chen wrote: Is there a recommended way to do in-frame navigation with CSS (replacement for frameset)? Navigation isn't a concern of CSS, which has to do with presentation. But you knew that already :-)... Questions I would have, given that you

Re: [css-d] Language switching

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's an example of one technique that I produced using English Japanese text: http://laurietobyedison.com/WOJwords.asp?lang=EN Every bilingual page on the site contains both languages, with only one of them displayed at a time. In the absence of

[css-d] Vertical BG, header 1px off half the time in IE.

2007-03-06 Thread Axiom X11
I am trying to do this simple page with a vertical background image, and then place a header *exactly* in the middle of it. See here: http://tinyurl.com/2pk5aq It works fine in firefox, but is sometime 1px to far left it IE (6 and 7). It depends on the browser width. You may not see it at

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Chen
(1) what about the problem recommends frameset as a solution in the first place? (not a skeptical question here, just askin'...) And (2), have you considered iframes? Do you have a demo we could look at? It's a simple website: http://www.formosagolfclub.com Basically I don't want the user

[css-d] containing floats

2007-03-06 Thread ron zisman
yo css-d'ers, http://www.ricochet.org/adv_buyer/new_tue.html can't seem to get clear on how to contain floats. i've assigned heights to some elements so i could see what i was doing, they'll be removed as problems are resolved. the wrapper has a background image and includes the light yellow,

[css-d] Site check and rollover issues

2007-03-06 Thread Jones, Larry
I am trying my first go at a completely tableless standards based design and I think that overall it's worked out pretty good despite some of my inexperience with this new way of thinking. Now I am struggling with my hover background images on rollover disappearing when they are not active in

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Chen
(1) what about the problem recommends frameset as a solution in the first place? (not a skeptical question here, just askin'...) And (2), have you considered iframes? Do you have a demo we could look at? It's a simple website: http://www.formosagolfclub.com Basically I don't want the user

Re: [css-d] rtl languages - dir=rtl not working for title tag... somehow should CSS be involved?

2007-03-06 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2007-03-06 02:36 -0500, Web Developer wrote: Both FF2 and IE7 goof on the title tag. although FF2 displays the title tag correctly in the 'tab' bar, but not in main browser address bar. Weird. My main browser address bar, I think you mean the title bar of the window. The text there

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Chen wrote: It's a simple website: http://www.formosagolfclub.com Basically I don't want the user ever having to scroll the browser vertically, but only the content section itself. Looks like frameset is still the best way to do this. So frameset is 100% valid structural HTML and

Re: [css-d] containing floats

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 3/6/2007 10:55 AM, ron zisman wrote: http://www.ricochet.org/adv_buyer/new_tue.html can't seem to get clear on how to contain floats. One way to contain a floated element is to float its parent. Paul __ css-discuss [EMAIL

[css-d] Safari site check

2007-03-06 Thread Arnold Jonathan E.
I was wondering if some Safari users wouldn't mind checking out this site, http://the1912gallery.ehc.edu/music/newsite. From the last browser shots I took it appeared the top navigation wasn't aligning as intended. I want a straight line across the type, which happens in FF, Mozilla, Opera,

Re: [css-d] Language switching

2007-03-06 Thread Erik Visser
Paul Novitski wrote: From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's an example of one technique that I produced using English Japanese text: http://laurietobyedison.com/WOJwords.asp?lang=EN Every bilingual page on the site contains both languages, with only one of them displayed at a time.

Re: [css-d] rtl languages - dir=rtl not working for title tag... somehow should CSS be involved?

2007-03-06 Thread Web Developer
On 3/6/07, L. David Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 2007-03-06 02:36 -0500, Web Developer wrote: Both FF2 and IE7 goof on the title tag. although FF2 displays the title tag correctly in the 'tab' bar, but not in main browser address bar. Weird. My main browser address bar, I

Re: [css-d] rtl languages - dir=rtl not working for title tag... somehow should CSS be involved?

2007-03-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Web Developer wrote: As you can see in a pic here, the title bar of window messes up with that method as well. http://arihoj.freehostia.com/arabic.html Thank you for posting the address of a demo page. The situation looks much clearer now. Looking at the page on IE 7 and

Re: [css-d] containing floats

2007-03-06 Thread ~davidLaakso
ron zisman wrote: http://www.ricochet.org/adv_buyer/new_tue.html can't seem to get clear on how to contain floats. ron zisman Same here :-) . What I find fascinating is playing with the possibilities. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/ron.html Best, ~dL --

Re: [css-d] containing floats

2007-03-06 Thread ~davidLaakso
~davidLaakso wrote: ron zisman wrote: http://www.ricochet.org/adv_buyer/new_tue.html can't seem to get clear on how to contain floats. ron zisman Same here :-) . What I find fascinating is playing with the possibilities. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/ron.html

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Chen
Sounds like you want to replace a perfectly good browser-feature with something that's doesn't work half as well, but that's not my problem. So, in the new CSS era, using frameset is not considered a misuse of presentation tag inside HTML? (If so, I'll just keep consientiously using frameset.)

Re: [css-d] In-frame navigation with CSS

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Chen wrote: Sounds like you want to replace a perfectly good browser-feature with something that's doesn't work half as well, but that's not my problem. So, in the new CSS era, using frameset is not considered a misuse of presentation tag inside HTML? (If so, I'll just keep

Re: [css-d] Background-image at end of a link not displaying properly when there's a line break in IE

2007-03-06 Thread francky
Allison Bloodworth wrote: Yes, [...] I noticed that in IE 7 on your site (http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/nederdev/test-link-icon6.htm) the last word which has the ul tags around it appears slightly lower than the rest of the link text preceding it. Hi Allison, Correct! IE7 is

[css-d] IE, background:transparent in ullia

2007-03-06 Thread Anatolio Nobre
Hi, I have the following problem: a test page is at http://tolio.org/test/ as you can see, there is a top navigation menu wich is a ul: ul li id=bu1a href=#spanHomepage/span/a/li li id=bu2a href=#spanAbout me/span/a/li li id=bu3a href=#spanPortfolio/span/a/li

Re: [css-d] Background-image at end of a link not displaying properly when there's a line break in IE

2007-03-06 Thread Allison Bloodworth
Yes, I did see this...thanks so much for sending it along! It's funny, I checked the archives and actually sent my message before this one appeared, and for some strange reason my message didn't appear until about 6 hours after I posted it. I also noticed that even wikipedia was having problems

Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9

2007-03-06 Thread Jon Hughes
I prefer to exclude those CCs entirely - if you don't mind. IE6 does well with a negative margin-bottom on the outer container, since it hides the overshooting part anyway... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/san/test_07_3350.html ...and yes, it's a genuine IE/win bug that comes handy at times.

Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9 - Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page - revisited

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jon Hughes wrote: This actually does not agree with my IE7, as you can see from the screenshot I included. http://goonsquad.org/santini/error.gif I'm not surprised that it doesn't work in IE7, but that has nothing to do with the hack/bug mentioned since IE7 can't see that if it is properly

[css-d] How to apply my styles to contents of an iframe?

2007-03-06 Thread david
At this page: http://www.clanjones.org/stnicks/music/index.php I have a situation where the content of an iframe source file will be used on two separate websites, and the guy who provides the content of the iframe source only wants to maintain the one file. If you look at it now, you'll see

Re: [css-d] How to apply my styles to contents of an iframe?

2007-03-06 Thread Bradley Wright
On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:08, david wrote: Any way that I can use CSS to make my styles apply to the contents? Or is there a convenient way using PHP to include his original file while stripping the htmlbody/body/html tags from it? The PHP question is out of the scope of this list, but as to your

Re: [css-d] Language switching

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every bilingual page on the site contains both languages, with only one of them displayed at a time. In the absence of javascript, the Japanese/English toggle requests the current page from the server with the requested language selected (by specifying it

Re: [css-d] How to apply my styles to contents of an iframe?

2007-03-06 Thread david
Bradley Wright wrote: On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:08, david wrote: Any way that I can use CSS to make my styles apply to the contents? Or is there a convenient way using PHP to include his original file while stripping the htmlbody/body/html tags from it? The PHP question is out of the scope of

Re: [css-d] Width blowout in IE

2007-03-06 Thread Mark Lundquist
Anybody? :-) thx, —ml— On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Mark Lundquist wrote: OK... this layout is almost done, thx to everyone who's helped me out...: dev.hearthstone.wd-2.net The only thing left is that gray footer sort of thing. In Exploder, it... well, it blows up :-(. You can

Re: [css-d] Width blowout in IE

2007-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Lundquist wrote: Anybody? :-) Sure. dev.hearthstone.wd-2.net Add... #footer {margin-right: -25px;} ...to avoid IE's 'auto-expansion' bug. I don't think that addition will disturb other browsers, so shouldn't need to hack it in. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] How to apply my styles to contents of an iframe?

2007-03-06 Thread david
david wrote: Bradley Wright wrote: On 6 Mar 2007, at 16:08, david wrote: Any way that I can use CSS to make my styles apply to the contents? Or is there a convenient way using PHP to include his original file while stripping the htmlbody/body/html tags from it? The PHP question is out of the

[css-d] 100% height challenges...

2007-03-06 Thread Rolf Mortenson
I've been building this layout concept for a project that does everything I want it to... almost. The basic markup is where I want it to be, but I'm having one issue. You can view it here: http://tinyurl.com/25r3pq The layout is done via css, and there's a little javascript to open and

Re: [css-d] How to apply my styles to contents of an iframe?

2007-03-06 Thread Don Miller
As far as I know, you can call out multiple css files and if one isn't found, the other is used. Try having the other person include your css file name on that one page with the correct path. This should work for both of you because when displayed on his site, only that css file will found

Re: [css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page

2007-03-06 Thread Ernie Finlay
Looks good,both side columns are approx. 2em's short of reaching the bottom. From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:23:26 +0100 Ernie Finlay wrote: In IE7,side

[css-d] Faux Columns not scaling to the bottom of page - revisited

2007-03-06 Thread ~davidLaakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Jon Hughes wrote: This actually does not agree with my IE7, as you can see from the screenshot I included. http://goonsquad.org/santini/error.gif I'm not surprised that it doesn't work in IE7, but that has nothing to do with the hack/bug mentioned since IE7

Re: [css-d] setting width of a

2007-03-06 Thread Michael Stevens
You'll want to give navcontainer a width... Speaking of that why do you have id=navcontainer and immediately add another div with the id=navlist, especially when you don't have a navlist in your CSS? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [css-d] setting width of a

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 3/6/2007 10:34 PM, Joel D Canfield wrote: How can I set the width of the navigation on the right so each link is the same width? Meaning, the background/hover effects, etc. http://www.grassies.com/g/ Setting the width of a just doesn't seem to have any effect whatsoever. Check out the

Re: [css-d] png color and IE7

2007-03-06 Thread Ido Dekkers
thank you all for your reply, i'll try these and see how it works Ido __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ