[css-d] CSS between local and server

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm creating some menu's and they look fine locally. When I upload them to the server they are completely different. I know I'm not supplying much information here , but what are some reasons for this behaviour ? TIA Mark __

Re: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-23 Thread Mark Fellowes
 I applied the IE hacks and found they made absolutely no difference. I went back through the form styles and commented them all out adding in one at a time. What I found is the only styling that is truly making a difference in browsers (at least between FF and IE) is the 'fieldset'

Re: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-23 Thread Mark Fellowes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:58 AM -07:00 To: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus I applied the IE hacks and found they made absolutely no difference. I went back

Re: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-22 Thread Mark Fellowes
Actually it's not working in IE at all. Just had someone else check it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:06 AM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final

Re: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-22 Thread Mark Fellowes
Anyone, have an idea why ? Mark Mark, One caveat, on my IE it doesn't display at all. Only in FF http://pamshop.com/something/rails.html It's completely blank in Safari 2.0.3, also. Ted __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-22 Thread Mark Fellowes
 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:47 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus I don't know if this will make a difference, but you don't have a complete doctype. Yes, I should

[css-d] Complex forms - is there a final consensus

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Fellowes
I have a form that is fairly large - 18 elements not including the submit button. After trying a multitude of css styles and layouts I'm still looking at a poorly layed out form. It could use at least 3 columns to fit nicely on the page. So, I've done some googling and see the controversy of

[css-d] Form issue

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm running into an issue where within my app I'm using a plugin that has it's own CSS stylesheet. I've tried editing it and while it seems I can make some changes the damn thing just won't line up with my other elements. In my main stylesheet I have the following: label, select{ display:

Re: [css-d] Form pain

2006-08-08 Thread Mark Fellowes
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 7, 2006 6:16 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED];CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Form pain Hi, First, the fieldset/form tags are improperly nested. You need to have valid HTML for your CSS to work right. You can use http://validator.w3.org/ to check

[css-d] Form pain

2006-08-07 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm trying to get some simple style and line up my form elements. Running into some issues. I did read through and used some of the material from the links on the wiki. I can't post the page here because I'm working in Rails and currently development under a local server. From the code

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Fellowes
 David, You mean with the comments ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:34 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout Yet to set the max-width but it seems

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Fellowes
going to look into the jello layout and see if that can accomodate my wishes. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:17 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout Mark

[css-d] Jello layout

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Fellowes
Hoping I can get some assistance on this type of layout. I've beein working through Mike Purvis's explanation and code and have made adjustments to my page which was originally elastic. If your familiar with Mike's tutorial then I used his bodydiv in the body style, I took the expander code

Re: [css-d] Jello layout

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Fellowes
Tom - Meant to ask in my last email, why do you set the elements in px, shouldn't they be set in % ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:01 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Jello layout Mark, I have a sample

Re: [css-d] Jello layout

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Fellowes
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:49 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Jello layout jello To be honest, I used the tool on the web page I sent you. Grabbed the source and didn't touch it. ;-) I add my own wrappers where necessary to aid in positioning

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-30 Thread Mark Fellowes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:59 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout BTW: the whole thing about scaling the width in em for all column-containers, is a bit flawed

Re: [css-d] Forms

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Fellowes
=password name=kt_login_password id=kt_login_password value= size=20 / /div Here is the link: http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp1.php TIA Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 7:32 AM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED];CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] Forms

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Yep, thank you. The br class is getting added after parsing. It's most likely in one of the class files. My apologies. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:29 PM -07:00 To: Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Forms Mark, view

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-28 Thread Mark Fellowes
max-width being set in ems or percentages ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:34 AM -07:00 To: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout You can combine elastic and liquid

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-28 Thread Mark Fellowes
Here's another question , same topic. In the article by Patrick Griffiths http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/ he uses a 100% font-size for the body and then makes the width at 36ems so that (if I'm correct in my understanding) the text and elements scale in proportion to each other.

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-28 Thread Mark Fellowes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:41 PM -07:00 To: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout Here's another question , same topic. In the article by Patrick Griffiths http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/ he uses a

Re: [css-d] Elastic and liquid layout

2006-05-28 Thread Mark Fellowes
Georg, Thank you for the excellent clarification. Regarding the issues iwth mix-width and IE, are there any workarounds ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:59 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED

[css-d] Forms

2006-05-28 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm just starting out on forms and CSS. I'm not having luck with one little bit and it maybe difficult to see since it's php code. The form has 3 fields , 2 text for username and password, 1 checkbox for a remember me. Next to the username and password are hint text. It doesn't show up in

[css-d] Header problems

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Fellowes
I don't believe I've ran into this before, meaning not asked about this type of problem before here. Problem is the header in IE (haven't checked Opera or Netscape), looks right in Firefox. In IE, the height is off and the background graphic has a gray background.

Re: [css-d] Header problems

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Fellowes
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:17 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Header problems IE, the height is off and the background graphic has a gray background. Is the PNG transparent? Sounds like it. IE won't do

Re: [css-d] How is this done ?

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Just wanted to thank everyone who responded explaining how the graphic was used. I'm still learning CSS and think that I am still sort of more easily taken in with graphics and using graphics to spiff up a site. However, I'm working to control that jones and create sites that have a wider

[css-d] How is this done ?

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Fellowes
I've noticed a number of website , where graphics hang below or through various elements. As an example: http://www.missiondata.com/ where the logo is below the header into the content area. Hope this isn't a stupid question but wondering how it's accomplished. My first thought is maybe

[css-d] Elastic layouts: want to confirm

2006-05-18 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm a little confused about my direction. I know that with elastic layouts you set the element widths using ems. What about margins , would those also be in ems ? TIA Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] float elastic layout haywired

2006-05-18 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Oops..forgot the url www.pamshop.com/Template1/exp9.html Sorry Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:26 PM -07:00 To: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] float elastic layout haywired In my quest for experimentation I've run into

[css-d] Images in liquid / elastic layouts.

2006-05-17 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm trying my hand at an elastic layout. Where the page expands according to the font size set. I know that static size graphic images are probably not a good idea but designers do use them. As an example: http://www.nicktoye.co.uk/ I englarged the text and noticed the text going out of

Re: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdnes s.

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Fellowes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 6:00 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdness. I seem to be running into an error on the ALA article. The 2 - Col layout. The content area seems to fall

Re: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdnes s.

2006-05-14 Thread Mark Fellowes
I think this clears up a misconception for me. Like absolute I was considering floats to also be out of the document flow. Seems that was wrong thinking. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:38 AM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdnes s.

2006-05-14 Thread Mark Fellowes
I certainly have some reading ahead of me. I think the point where theory and practice fall apart is when one actually starts to work within the general layout and implement design elements. So the layout tutorials have been a good starting point for me but much more to go. Mark

[css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdness.

2006-05-13 Thread Mark Fellowes
Not sure what I'm doing wrong . As suggested earlier I've removed the heights from the content1 and content2 divs but the side nav is still off (except for IE). Also the footer doesn't seem to want to move. Relevant page: http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html# Navigation css:

Re: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdnes s.

2006-05-13 Thread Mark Fellowes
I didn't try it with the /**/. I will as soon as I get back to my desktop. Does the comments mean something different then float:left ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 7:17 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List

Re: [css-d] Making a mess, navigation and footer weirdnes s.

2006-05-13 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Oh, sorry. I did mean: just delete the float:left over there. In css, the /* */ means: between this is a comment; browsers, don't use it as css-rule. When I'm trying things and don't want to get rid of the version before, I place the /* and the */ before and after the part I guess I

[css-d] Rounded corners: cool tutorial

2006-05-12 Thread Mark Fellowes
I came across this one and while I'm sure most of you have seen it it's scratching an itch of mine. Works pretty well on my first experiments though I made a slight mistake in my image creation. If anyone has experience with these I'd be interested in hearing.

[css-d] Couple of questions: Layout

2006-05-11 Thread Mark Fellowes
I thought I had it all down pat after 3 weeks of reading but now not so sure ;) I've been working on this layout which is basically a two column fixed width using floats. http://www.pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html Now I'm wondering if I'd be better off using absolute positioning instead.

[css-d] Help: IE issue

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Fellowes
Sorry, but I've made some progress (fixed my side navigation). However my most recent issue is a background issue in IE. If you look at the page the 2 boxes on the right companies and users have a white background applied to the p. The box containing them have a background color. In Firefox

Re: [css-d] Help: IE issue

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Fellowes
the navigation it corrects, but it seems to be a pretty weird thing. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2006 4:54 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Help: IE issue Mark Fellowes wrote

[css-d] Side navigation too low

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Fellowes
Not sure what's going on here. I've been looking through the code (XHTML and CSS validate) However the side nav is too low on the left side. http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html# Here is the CSS for the side navigation: http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8_side_nav.css TIA Mark

Re: [css-d] Side navigation too low

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Fellowes
Actually this seems to be a Firefox problem. Not sure what's going on here. I've been looking through the code (XHTML and CSS validate) However the side nav is too low on the left side. http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html# Here is the CSS for the side navigation:

[css-d] Rounded Corners

2006-05-07 Thread Mark Fellowes
Can anyone suggest some of the better methods out there for learning and creating round corners. I'm really only looking for a link, and while I'm persuing the CSS Front page, still like to know what others think are the better methods. Most important is that they are image free, strictly

[css-d] Help: One Image rollover

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Fellowes
Side note - for those that saw my original post about this the other day (using a liquid layout), I've opted for a centered fixed. I'm using this tutorial as the basis for my side navigation: http://tutorials.alsacreations.com/rollover_unique/ I've altered the a:hover's to adjust for the

Re: [css-d] Help: One Image rollover

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Bill, not sure which tags you are referring to: Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:59 PM -07:00 To: 'Mark Fellowes' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Help: One Image rollover Hey Mark... At the end of your CSS, you've listed a few rules

Re: [css-d] Help: One Image rollover

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Fellowes
: Saturday, May 6, 2006 4:20 PM -07:00 To: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Help: One Image rollover Bill, not sure which tags you are referring to: Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:59 PM -07:00 To: 'Mark Fellowes' [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [css-d] Help: One Image rollover

2006-05-06 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Sorry Els about the code changes. Still struggling though. When you say that the use of negative margins will effect narrower windows. We talking about less then 800px ? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2006 4:40 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes

[css-d] Liquid layouts with graphics

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Fellowes
I think this is probably obvious to me but at the certainty of sounding stupid I'll ask. I am working on a liquid / fluid layout, 3 columns using floats. If it's relevant this is the rough layout: http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp10.html I'm considering using a one image rollover navigation

Re: [css-d] Liquid layouts with graphics

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Fellowes
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:20 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: css list list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Liquid layouts with graphics I'm considering using a one image rollover navigation thing. Haven't done it yet but essentially

[css-d] IE6 , page not displaying

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Fellowes
Trying a simple 3 col fluid layout. It refuses to show up in IE6. Firefox seems fine. http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp10.html I checked markup, simple and correct. #wrapper has min-width: 720px; which i think is IE incompatible but I expected to see something. Sorry to ask but anyone

Re: [css-d] IE6 , page not displaying

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Fellowes
 My apologies. I went over the code carefully to makes sure I didn't waste list bandwidth but negelected commnets. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 10:10 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED];CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

[css-d] Question:Background in IE[6]

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
In my experiments to learn layout I've run into this problem twice. As you'll see in my code, in the right column I've set the H1 to have a white background and the right column itself to have a purple. In Firefox it displays almost correctly, in IE the purple doesn's show through where the

Re: [css-d] Question:Background in IE[6]

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Now I'm embarassed. Never thought to recheck the markup :) Sorry and thank you! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 1:34 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Question:Background in IE[6

[css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around classes, in particular how they relate to classes in markup. So, I understand I can create a class like: .ptext{color: blue;} Then in the markup I can styple p with that class. What I find confusing is the uses of classes as opposed to

Re: [css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
Just wanted to say thank you to all who answered. The explanations and examples were very helpful. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 2:20 PM -07:00 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Cc: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Classes

[css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm curious how people create page sets for their sites ? What I mean, is that most sites seem to have some variation from page to page. Not variations in content but in layout. It's a tough question to answer no doubt. My thoughts are that perhaps one maintains certain color combinations

Re: [css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
realize there are no quick answers. Just looking for some feedback. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 10:56 PM -07:00 To: 'Mark Fellowes' [EMAIL PROTECTED];'CSS List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Design question ?I'm curious

[css-d] Help: Main content area off

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Fellowes
Not sure where I'm wrong here but in this layout the maincontent is set to left 200px with a width of 600 total, yet it seems to be overlapping a float box set at 800px by about 50px. Anyone help by pointing out what is probably obvious but I'm missing :)  TIA Mark HTML: link rel=stylesheet

[css-d] Stumped

2006-04-17 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm using a simple layout tutorial to build my understanding. I might have been going backwards (tried a few more complicated ones), however this is confusing me because only the body background is showing, and not the ones set for the div's. HTML: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01

[css-d] Newbie layout question

2006-04-17 Thread Mark Fellowes
This relates to the sideNav tag [see code below]   While it's in the right position, just typing into it extends it passed the width that's set. Do I need a rule for the p to control that or could it be done with the box alone ? html: body div id=page div id=mastheadContent for  id fd Goes

Re: [css-d] Newbie layout question

2006-04-17 Thread Mark Fellowes
for a week now. Mark From: francky[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:24 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Newbie layout question Mark Fellowes wrote: This relates to the sideNav tag [see code below] While it's

[css-d] Question: container or body

2006-04-16 Thread Mark Fellowes
Hi, Just signed up here. Familiar to some degree with CSS (via Dreamweaver) but brand new to Page layout with CSS. I've been reading and practicing with some tutorials. One question I have, in a few tutorials I noticed the use of a div labeled either container or page-container. Other