Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-02 Thread G.Sørtun
Bob Rosenberg wrote: Which responds with a blanket NO ignoring the possibility that there may be layouts that can be done via Tables but is impossible to create via CSS. That possibility doesn't exist. The only thing that may bother us a bit at times, is legacy browsers that don't support

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-02 Thread tedd
At 10:33 PM -0400 8/1/09, Bob Rosenberg wrote: Except for the fact that in some cases CSS is (currently?) incapable of creating the same layout as can be created with a Table (Maybe CSS3 will be able to once it gets rolled out in a few years). That's news to me. I've been wandering around for

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-02 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Tedd post toasted: I've been wandering around for years using css to solve every styling problem I've run into and have never found one I couldn't solve. It does take some creativity and ingenuity to create some of the complex layouts with CSS... but that is what listservs like this one

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-02 Thread tedd
At 3:41 PM + 8/2/09, Conyers, Dwayne wrote: Tedd post toasted: I've been wandering around for years using css to solve every styling problem I've run into and have never found one I couldn't solve. It does take some creativity and ingenuity to create some of the complex layouts with

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-02 Thread David Hucklesby
Bob Rosenberg wrote: At 19:36 +0100 on 08/01/2009, MEM wrote about Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs': I was studying the CSS and the page structure and I noticed that the designer used a series of table cels to create that design. Not only will the page not validate but I wondered what

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread MEM
What do you all think.. todd Well... you ask this on a CSS list... what do you expect? ;) I was studying the CSS and the page structure and I noticed that the designer used a series of table cels to create that design. Not only will the page not validate but I wondered what you

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread Christian Heilmann
Todd Bingham wrote: Gentlemen, This is not my site, but I went there as a result of a tutorial I was taking on Lynda.com. http://www.nypl.org/ I was studying the CSS and the page structure and I noticed that the designer used a series of table cels to create that design. Not only

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/08/01 14:40 (GMT-0400) Christian Heilmann composed: Todd Bingham wrote: http://www.nypl.org/ http://www.shouldiusetablesforlayout.com/ It's quite common among major sites to continue using layout tables. http://developer.apple.com/internet/webcontent/bestwebdev.html

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread lodewijk andré de la porte
My view on the subject is that you may abuse anything, and i mean anything, to make your site look as it should. And that should be done as stable, standards-complaint, pretty, elegant and small as possible. Tables is not any of those, but they may get the job done. From there on it's viewing per

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread Bob Rosenberg
At 19:36 +0100 on 08/01/2009, MEM wrote about Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs': I was studying the CSS and the page structure and I noticed that the designer used a series of table cels to create that design. Not only will the page not validate but I wondered what you guys have

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread Bob Rosenberg
At 19:40 +0100 on 08/01/2009, Christian Heilmann wrote about Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs': Todd Bingham wrote: Gentlemen, This is not my site, but I went there as a result of a tutorial I was  taking on Lynda.com. http://www.nypl.org/ I was studying the CSS and the page

Re: [css-d] the old 'tables vs. divs'

2009-08-01 Thread David Laakso
Bob Rosenberg wrote: Except for the fact that in some cases CSS is (currently?) incapable of creating the same layout as can be created with a Table (Maybe CSS3 will be able to once it gets rolled out in a few years). Good grief. Give it up. Structure site layouts as table-less