Re: [css-d] how to handle divs of differing heights

2007-10-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Travis Crabtree wrote: > This page (http://arts.tusculum.edu/arts.html) has an outer container > with two inner divs. The problem is that the menu div (on the left) > is shorter in height than the content div (on the right). How would > you handle that? > The page displays in IE6/7 without a pr

Re: [css-d] Fixed, fluid width and sidebars

2007-10-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Brown wrote: > Basically I want to ask the pros and cons of using fixed width > sidebars with fluid centre column. Is it a big no no or can I do it > anyway. Of course you can. It's a much used form of layout. > Are there reasons not to mix pixel width with fluid centres please? The o

Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer parsing bug: invalid at-rule not ignored: more info

2007-11-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gabriele Romanato wrote: > Can anyone add more info and/or suggestions? Haven't really looked into @media rules and parse errors for quite some time, but AFAICS IE/win hasn't improved when served nested @media rules...

Re: [css-d] Span Tag - Pushing My Boundaries - Can This Be Done

2007-11-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Akins wrote: > http://www.springfieldmo.gov/egov/cityclerk/minutes_test.html > > Basically the text in the left column needs to slide down so that it > sits on the same line as the corresponding text in the right column. It's somewhat the other way around. 'display: block' makes the span

Re: [css-d] Paragraph background not respecting float margins

2007-11-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Povlot wrote: > I hope that someone can explain to me what is happening in this case. > The paragraph with the yellow background should be pushed over by the > float. The text in it is moved over due to the float. But the > yellow background still continues behind the float box. I think t

Re: [css-d] Where do i find a tutorial on the > item?

2007-11-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Information - Abyss wrote: > #nameli:hover > ul > > > What is that for? the ">" character? > > and where can i find tutorials for it? and is there a special name for it? > (other then greater then) This is as good a description as any for that selector...

Re: [css-d] widest fixed width

2007-11-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cyber Cog wrote: > What's the widest fix width you'll go for, and why? Pardon me, but, go for widest fixed width on what and with what? Often used fixed width-values for web pages are somewhat like... Screen browser: 760 or 980 (640 - 1600). Mobile (handheld): 170 - 240 (120 - 480). Print: A4 po

Re: [css-d] Spacing Issues in IE6 and Safari & Centering the page

2007-11-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Terrell wrote: > 'left: 0' pushes all of the pop-ups to the left. They no longer > appear over the word. You haven't established a relation. Look below. >>> 2. In Safari and IE6, the spacing is off between >> div=left image and >>> div=main text. >> For IE6, add... #left-image {display:

Re: [css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.

2007-11-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
snak detek+0r wrote: > When I click on the links, rather than going to the specified url, > the whole layout changes -- gets skinny. at this point, the links > work. > http://minivanswebsite.com/testsite/index.html Tables work a bit different on the Gecko-side of the fence, so the whole family s

Re: [css-d] click on link causes layout shift?? second click works fine. FF only.

2007-11-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
snak detek+0r wrote: > Well, of course it works, so I must say you're a total genius. :) Geniuses sure come cheap these days ;-) > Lastly, how did you decide on the values you used -- 890 & 910 ? I > know I was aiming for a width of 900, but do you have a tool that > will calculate widths for

Re: [css-d] ie7 positioning problem

2007-11-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://free.of.pl/r/ramirez/a/keyvision-p2-sliced-1.html > In ie7 not only the box is not scrollable, but it's also misplaced. Give IE/win something it can handle... ...without disturbing other browsers.

Re: [css-d] header 3px shift

2007-11-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mike A wrote: > Can someone please say why there is a 3px margin in the header at > http://www.webdev-academy.com/template2/index.html. In IE6 ? :-) You also have problems with this bug...

Re: [css-d] another IE 3px problem, but don't think it's the float bug

2007-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lisa Goettel wrote: > I'm really wanting to embrace the present and CSS, and am having a > rough go, as every single site I've converted, or at least partially > converted from tables has issues in IE. Some fixes for IE further down, but first thing first... It is quite risky to take on 'real-w

Re: [css-d] Site check ie6 problems

2007-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
21nasui wrote: > Any tips on the ie6 problems or overall css guidance is appreciated. > > http://ellascreations.com/cat2.html Not enough space in there, and IE6 doesn't respect any declared dimensions. Adding / changing to... .prod_1, .prod_2, .prod_3, .prod_4, .prod_5, .prod_6, .prod_7, .prod_

Re: [css-d] Float problem

2007-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: > I'm almost there with this page > http://www.keenstreet-dev.com/trying.html but the floated box on the > right keeps going to the bottom of the 'ufwus div' instead of the top > and then having the text wrap. The floated box on the right side can't go higher up than the o

Re: [css-d] IE 6.0 Float problem

2007-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: > But IE 6.0 is still having a problem, the floated box (Map heading) > with the text should sit on the right side with the text wrapping and > currently it's left, and pushed the text down? > Page: http://www.keenstreet-dev.com/trying.html Something is triggering IE6' au

Re: [css-d] Preserving integrity of layout on screen re-size

2007-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Slob Jones wrote: > When you re-size the screen to make it smaller, the elements shift > inward, causing the menu to break. > > What's the best way to prevent this from happening? Establish a relation for the absolute positioned elements in banner, by adding... #topsection {position: relative;

Re: [css-d] Technique check please.

2007-11-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote: > Anyone have any problems with: > > http://webbytedd.com/bbb/map/ IE6 makes a mockery out of it - unstable hover, jumping container, misplaced hover-state images and problems with loading and presenting hover-state images at all. IE7 seems to hang on hover-states, and won't switch e

Re: [css-d] sanity check

2007-11-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Tolpin wrote: > http://www.wildstufftogo.com/reference6.htm > > The spacing between the links and floats is fine in FFX 2.0, but too > wide in IE6. Adding a border to the "header" div collapses that > space, but transparent borders don't render properly in IE6. Do I > have a "haslayout"

Re: [css-d] Need float drop help... quickly if possible!

2007-11-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lise Holliker Dykes wrote: > http://homepage.mac.com/lhdesign/ine/aboutus.html > Inset box on copy panel looks fine in Firefox & Safari, float drop > disaster in IE. I've read up on the problem all over the place, but I > can't figure out for the life of me what's making the floated box > seem

Re: [css-d] Margin/padding problems, or maybe not...

2007-11-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: > Erland Flaten wrote: >> Looks ok in safari/FF but as usual IE makes problem as it always >> has since the dawn of webdesign... ok. Nonsense. >> http://www.ingriahlsen.no/ > Could be a "human" bug. Assuming I understand what you mean, the > target selector for ie6 & 7 may

Re: [css-d] Problem in Firefox

2007-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kathryn Maxwell wrote: > http://dev.carfreewalks.org/walks/114/twickenham_to_putney Don't forget to mention the possibility that someone may actually expose that layout to font-resizing. It can't take even the smallest degree of resizing - in any browser. - IE/win need corrections for its "em fo

Re: [css-d] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rahul Gonsalves wrote: > Hi, > > http://rahulgonsalves.com/research/site/ > > [...] Also, I don't have access to Internet Explorer; does it behave > /reasonably well/ in that browser? Not identical to Firefox, Opera etc, but reasonably ok in both IE7 and 6, IMO. “ is too far left, overlapping

Re: [css-d] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rahul Gonsalves wrote: >>> http://rahulgonsalves.com/research/site/ You've forgotten to wrap those IE-only styles in a

Re: [css-d] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
> http://rahulgonsalves.com/research/site/ >> You've forgotten to wrap those IE-only styles in a

Re: [css-d] validation question

2007-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jaklitsch maya wrote: > I just tried to validate a recent style sheet and was given 4 errors. > > > I thought the shorthand for border is > > border: size style color; Yes, in any order. However this... > border:1px thin #f7e0d5; ...contains two width-values - '1px' and 'thin', and a color-va

Re: [css-d] IE 6/Win Text line width expanding container

2007-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kit Grose wrote: > http://www.iqmultimedia.com.au/kit/iebug.gif > > Lines of text are wrapping based on the true line width, but leaving > a trailing space after each line that pushes out the container width > (rather than wrapping earlier). Not easy to debug an image, but some of it looks lik

Re: [css-d] Positioning an element - the limits

2007-11-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > I fear this is impossible in CSS. > > (Actually, I don't know if that is true. I just figured out that > whenever someone says it is impossible, someone else will jump onto > the wagon to provide a solution.) Sure :-) You take this...

Re: [css-d] firefox css problem

2007-11-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jaklitsch maya wrote: > http://www.necwa.org/new_site/index.html > The problem is that the bottom of the page will not display correctly > in FF. I do not know how to correct this. Firefox does what you've told it: limits the height of footer to 250px. Only IE6 doesn't respect declared dimensions

Re: [css-d] firefox css problem

2007-11-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
>> http://www.necwa.org/new_site/index.html > /No offense intended/, but even a touch of font-scaling blows it out > of the water in any brower-- including IE6.0. In IE/win it's the dreaded "em font-resizing bug"... ...and others aren't doin

Re: [css-d] Layout issues

2007-11-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: > If anyone can point me in the direction to see a layout such as this, > I'd really appreciate it. > > The concept is at: http://www.keenstreet.com.au/concept/concept.jpg ? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __

Re: [css-d] position:fixed in IE 5 and IE 6?

2007-11-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Magnus Fahlström wrote: > I'd like to have a menu beside the main content that stays in the same > position on the screen when you scroll down the page. > Does anyone know of a way to make it work in IE 5 and IE 6? Complete demo:

Re: [css-d] Is there any way to filter a css for Safari or Firefox

2007-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
chiara chiari wrote: > Hi guys, I need to filter a style rule for Safari and I was wondering > if there is any way to filter a dedicated css or if there is any > other way I can filter a stylesheet for FireFox and then use the main > one to give my rules to Safari (I am using separate css for IE7 a

Re: [css-d] validation question

2007-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote: > I've learned something new every day of my life, and I'm getting > damned tried [ err ... tired ] of it. :-) Living, or learning..? ;-) CSS provides so much fun! I want more... regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] background problem in IE6 using class selectors

2007-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > Good. In case someone else could veryfy this fix, I'd appreciate it. > @importing two stylesheets should be similar to having two > style-blocks, or shouldn't it? Dunno. To busy to test ATM, and the buggy logic of such hacks must be tested quite thoroughly since the "logic" pa

Re: [css-d] Hover in an Image Map (IE6)

2007-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Eric & Lucile Eastman wrote: > http://www.samallman.com/test.html > The hotspot in the top right (> Contact 888-945-5228) present the > border correctly in FF but not in IE6. > Does anyone know why this is happening? Stacking problems, which IE/win (all versions) has whenever 'position: absolut

Re: [css-d] Quick flash of header background problem (IE6, IE7)

2007-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.mycoast.eu/index.php?lang=EN > > If you open it in IE7 (IE6 behaves the same), you'll notice a quick > sort of 'flash' of the background *below* the header, before the > header background is rendered on screen. Observed in IE6 on a slow connection: There's an

Re: [css-d] IE Layout problems

2007-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Bradley wrote: > http://www.peredur.uklinux.net/Amnesty/amdanom.html > For some reason, IE insists on pushing the ul that forms the sidebar > navigation links out about 10px to the right. Add... ul#cyfeirio {margin-left: 0;} ...or... ul#cyfeirio {margin: 0;} ...depending on where you w

Re: [css-d] IE Layout problems

2007-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Bradley wrote: > Whilst I've got your attention, though ... Does anyone happen to > know why IE leaves a big gap between the top_nav and the pennawd_gw. The effect of 'hasLayout' triggers on div#cynnwys - 'width' and 'height', which makes the container clear the ul#top_nav as a "block". N

Re: [css-d] Navigation problems. Can you help?

2007-11-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Karl Bedingfield wrote: > http://www.discoverely.co.uk/nav/ > Any thoughts on how to get this menu to float right with 'menu 1' > being first in line? Pick and choose...

Re: [css-d] Site check / CSS feedback please

2007-11-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mike A wrote: > http://www.webdev-academy.com/test-layout/index.html Looks like a variant of... > Does it work, especially when browser is resized? div#navigation { margin-left : -100.01%; } ...will make Gecko browsers offse

Re: [css-d] Individual Padding

2007-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Terrell wrote: > Is there any way to control padding individually without creating > separate divs? I'm referring to the top level of the navigation on > this site: > www.cometothewell.org/newsite If you want to control padding on each top-level li, then a unique class or ID on each li is

Re: [css-d] Site check needed...

2007-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Keith Kaiser wrote: > Please visit http://bsaroundtable.com/index2.php and give me your > honest opinions. The CSS of importance here is at; > http://bsaroundtable.com/css/rtstyle2.css > > Be sure to click through several of the left menu items, the most > problematic for me was the 'Cub Scut, B

Re: [css-d] space issues

2007-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sharri Boucher wrote: > I am a newbie having some spacing issues with my navigation bar. It > looks fine in NN, Firefox and Opera but there is heaps of space > between each link in IE 6. > http://jakitidesign.com/treotham It's a "white-space bug" in IE/win partly cured in IE7. Add... #list-me

Re: [css-d] absolutely positioned background?

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anthony Ettinger wrote: > http://chovy.dyndns.org/test/img/tab.html > > I'm trying to accomplish "Good", but am only able to get "Bad" as > shown in the link above. > > I'm looking for a "bullet proof" method, that will not insert a gap > when font-size is adjused by the user. You have to prov

Re: [css-d] Print Style Help

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Todd Richards wrote: > www.ldstrategies.com > When I do a print preview in either Firefox or IE 6, the content gets > chopped off. In IE 7, it shrinks it down to fit. Start by making sure no printed containers are floated or absolute positioned, as that may "upset" the mentioned browsers/versio

Re: [css-d] Problem with div collapsing

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Clare AM Green wrote: > http://www.cam-web.co.uk/newcam/quote.html > > As you can see the divs around the form sections (div > class="formBox") collapse because they are containing floated > elements. That's correct behavior, same in all decent browsers. You can add... .formBox {overflow: hi

Re: [css-d] site-check please, major ie6 issues

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: > http://www.bildas.fatpawdesign.com/index.html > I'd appreciate a site check of above page. Seems well behaved except > in IE6, which is losing the floated green box in the left column, and > evidently the whole content of the right column. Something somewhere > probably

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Harris wrote: > I think Davoud's response shows us why the answer to the question > posed in the subject is "virtually nothing." There are too many > people using other browsers, and unless we're going to be creating > websites to work specifically in Firefox, we're still going to have >

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rafael wrote: > Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: >> I think someone is defining "site stability" on the wrong premises. >> No site will ever work and render the same in all browsers, no >> matter what lowest common denominator one uses. Neither should >> they.

Re: [css-d] site-check please, major ie6 issues

2007-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: >>> http://www.bildas.fatpawdesign.com/index.html > Made change as recommended. Would appreciate another check. Working just fin in IE6 (on w2k). > Can I just take out those particular 'position' declarations out all > together? Yes, that _should_ automatically take it

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: >> I think someone is defining "site stability" on the wrong >> premises > > Well if you are refering it to me, I never did define "site > stability". I was _only_ referring to arguments and wording in the mail I responded to. Erik H. used your response as base for his

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers? [medium]

2007-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rafael wrote: > Maybe we're talking about different things here. What I understand > here would be basically the same as saying that the standards > shouldn't exist and, though interpreting the same content / > instructions, each browser should render it its own way. Standards are defined for

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Harris wrote: > Your advice is _generally_ true, since browsers _generally_ ignore > stuff they don't understand, but extreme examples like the Acid > Stress Test show that your advice doesn't _always_ hold. If you get > fancy enough with standards-compliant code, some browsers won't > s

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Harris wrote: > At 05:09 PM 12/1/2007, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: >> So, I would give browsers a complete Acid Stress Test, and hide >> same test from weaker browser and provide them with an alternative. >> > Aside from MSIE, how do you do this? You can use the MS-prop

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Since there always are a few designers who could learn a trick or two about how to break their carefully crafted CSS based layouts before their visitors do, I think it might not hurt to finish off my contribution to this thread with one last comment. DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > How many times have you

Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Harris wrote: > Yeah, I know Opera includes a built-in user agent switcher that could > deflate its stats, but if it's own users won't even stand up and be > counted, I'm not going to bother trying to guess how many of them > there might be. :) Count me out then - I never surf the web wit

Re: [css-d] STILL PROBLEMS

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Christian Anker wrote: > The site www.putti.no was subject of an earlier posting of mine! > Problem: HTML and CSS validate. The page displays correctly in IE > 7.0, but in FireFox 2.0.010 & 11 not: I am not able to get "Comic > Sans MS" fonts in FireFox. If I recall it correctly, it worked

Re: [css-d] floats and IE

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cynthia Page wrote: > I have a few pages on my website that display images, or videos or > even just a list of contacts that I have put in divs with the float > attribute. They don't work (they don't stack up under themselves, > they hide off to the right of the page) in Windows/IE7. Same in a

Re: [css-d] floats and IE

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Shawn Lawler wrote: > #floatwrap { > width:auto; > overflow: hidden; > margin: 10px; > border: thin solid #FF6600; > } In case it matters: that won't work properly in IE6. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] floats and IE

2007-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cynthia Page wrote: > Dear Shawn and Georg, > > Thanks so much! > > Will this not work in IE6 because of width:auto? Does one need to > declare the height:1%, and is this for the HasLayout trick? IE/win (all versions) needs a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger on that #floatwrap, and 'overflow: hidden' onl

Re: [css-d] Change of font-size in div affects div height

2007-12-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Young wrote: > Odd thing happened here. Added font-size to a div and it changed the > height of the cell (and other surrounding). If I change from ems to > px for the div height it is ok in that div but others with height in > div are affected. > > I have not come across this before. That th

Re: [css-d] A menu of list items using images.

2007-12-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sacha Ligthert wrote: > http://ligthert.net/CSS/ > PS: I read on the Internet (DUTCH: > http://netters.nl/forum/vertical-align-in-css) that 'display: inline' > doesn't allow setting of width nor height. Could this be the fatal > flaw in my setup? Yes, it is. Only older IE/win will apply height

Re: [css-d] Change of font-size in div affects div height

2007-12-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Young wrote: > http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/css/size3.html Not often I see a document with double sets of everything. You should clean up the source-code for that test-case. > Just tried that solution and the font-size didn't change. Did I miss > something here? Yes, you have to

Re: [css-d] Ideal way to link-ify a div?

2007-12-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jesper Rønn-Jensen wrote: > I need a combination of an image, headline, paragraph text and a link > all to be clickable. All of this nested in a div, that changes > background-color on hover and is clickable. So instead of adding an > a-element to each inline text/image, I want the empty space

Re: [css-d] Berea Street CSS / JavaScript Corners and IE7

2007-12-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeff Seal wrote: > It seems that IE7 wants to throw out the bottom corner in all my > tests by allowing the left border to show behind the bottom left > corner. This happens on my own tests and on the examples from the > authors web site. > http://www.cbcslc.com/stage/ IE7 needs 'hasLayout'[

Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats

2007-12-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
bookpage wrote: > This is my first post and I hope I am requesting help in the correct > way. You have hijacked someone else's thread, and messed up the list-archives a bit. You should really, really, start a new thread from scratch, and not just copy and change subject-line in an existing one.

Re: [css-d] Spry drop down

2007-12-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anahita Shafa wrote: > I was hoping someone could take a look at this and let me know if you > have any solution or fix or IE hack that can correct it. > http://www.mcleanwebdirectory.com/mclean/index.html The addition of... ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a {height: 1%;} ...will improve greatly on IE

Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats

2007-12-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rick Faircloth wrote: > However, it's good to remember that for those of us that are just > beginning to work with CSS layouts, that getting *anything* to work > on any level is a big challenge. Once we become more knowledgeable > and experienced we can begin to work with broader concerns, li

Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats

2007-12-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rayburn Taylor wrote: > Is this what one would call a "hijacked thread"? Just asking. It started as one - 'Top Bottom - Lets Keep Them Apart' and then suddenly we had 'problems with CSS and floats' in threading mail-agents. Now it seems the only (somewhat loose) connection with CSS we have left,

Re: [css-d] site check please

2007-12-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: > > Would appreciate a look-see in Opera (I'm in O9.24), as the nav bar > anchors aren't working right and occasionally disappear all together > on scrolling. Which bug and how to fix? An old instability in Opera when trying to interpret the "W3C collapsing margins bug

Re: [css-d] Border line not extending downward in IE

2007-12-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
coolman coolx wrote: > The following border style works well in FF but refuses to extend > downward for some contents in IE. > http://digitalquestng.com/ngcdemo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=26 Incomplete clearfix. IE/win doesn't understand generated content, and is in nee

Re: [css-d] list-item markers vertical-align: top ???

2007-12-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael D Schleif wrote: > I am having problems with list-item markers in unordered lists that > span more than one (1) line being _centered_ vertically. > I want the marker centered on the first line of list-item text. Too many ways to create a list with list-item markers, and too many problems

Re: [css-d] list-item markers vertical-align: top ???

2007-12-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael D Schleif wrote: > >>> I want the marker centered on the first line of list-item text. The addition of... li.body {background-position: 0 .4em;} ...will center it quite nicely on first line. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ___

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish menu is funky in IE7

2007-12-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Fider wrote: > This is my first post to CSS Discuss, and I'm paranoid that I didn't > submit it correctly. It's all fine ... but IE7 definitely isn't :-) >> This menu seems to work fine in all new browsers that I've tested >> with, except IE7. >> http://fiderweb.com/z/ Looks like a version

Re: [css-d] Little help with IE (site check, in fact)

2007-12-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luis Speciale wrote: > http://nortours.info/ > 1) Shadows in an empty div > > No matters what I do, I'm unable to make an empty div to vertically > fit the parent's height. If you see it in FF, it's OK and even in IE > 5 it works ! What is this ? IE6' "standard mode" isn't anywhere near standar

Re: [css-d] Nav not positioned right in IE

2007-12-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Amy Drayer wrote: > I am about to pull out the gun and shoot myself over this mess. Any > and all help GREATLY appreciated. A note: The invalidation errors > should not cause this problem (it's a CMS, I cannot fix them). > http://new.jocohealth.net/ Well, you seem to have some clear options

Re: [css-d] Top Bottom - Lets Keep Them Apart

2007-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Rutgers wrote: > http://www.breakthe800.ca/test/jared/index.php. > 1. header at top of page > 2. footer at absolute bottom of page (displayed) > 3. contents to scroll if not enough space to display all > > Can this be done with CSS? I was playing with overflow:auto but it does > not app

Re: [css-d] general css structure and positioning questions

2007-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ron Zisman wrote: > http://www.ricochet.org/ricotest/ricotest.html > > somewhat of a newbie. :-) > on the mac platform in opera, firefox and safari it is basically > working as intended, though each of the 3 browsers interpret border > colors vastly differently. is it something in my mark

Re: [css-d] general css structure and positioning questions

2007-12-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ron Zisman wrote: > http://www.ricochet.org/ricotest/ricotest.html > problem. file validates as css and xhtml 1, but it's not picking up > the background image i've assigned to the #outerwrap. The background-image is picked up, but #outerwrap looks and behaves like it's struck by "collapsing ma

Re: [css-d] Margin-top

2007-12-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Eric & Lucile Eastman wrote: > Can anyone tell me why IE6 is positioning my text farther down the > page than Firefox? > http://www.samallman.com/consultingservices.html Yes, it's one of the negative sides of having different 'hasLayout' triggers for IE6 and IE7. There are more than one 'hasLayo

Re: [css-d] Centering header images in elastic layout and 100% width -> scrollbars

2007-12-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: > > In the header, I'd like to absolutely position the "inspections by > bob" title in the center, with the two other elements at left and > right, respectively. May I suggest a simpler method - as a starting-p

Re: [css-d] Centering header images in elastic layout and 100% width -> scrollbars

2007-12-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: > Much more sensible, thank you. But a question: Why do I need to > have display:inline as well as float:left? Only to "kill" the 'margin-doubling on floats' bug in IE6. That fix makes as little sense as the IE6 bug, but it works without any negative side-effects.

Re: [css-d] general css structure and positioning questions

2007-12-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ron Zisman wrote: > i moved the image to the body, as the outer wrap only extended as > deep as the last , leaving the bottom of the screen blue. it > seems to work in the body... > > question on size??? this is a whopping 600kp and is about 1800 px > wide and 1000 px deep. what are your thoughts

Re: [css-d] Centering a div with an image

2007-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Erik Moström wrote: > So my question is: Is it possible to center the photobackground > without knowing the size of the image? If so, can anyone please > give me an hint on how to do it? Centering an element is easy enough, but the actual solution depends on whether you want to center only

Re: [css-d] Need footer assistance please

2007-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Big Moxy wrote: > url - http://projects.missioninternet.com/proweb/index.php > 1) This occurs on both IE 7 and FF ...and most other browsers. > I have a curved bottom border that I want to place right after the > footer text. The border graphic consists of 3 files - left curve, > right curve an

Re: [css-d] Centering a div with an image

2007-12-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Erik Moström wrote: > Of course there is one solution that seems to work fine: > >[...] > But I'm not sure if this is a good solution. It was ... 10 years ago :-) Wrapping elements in tables to achieve a "shrink to fit" effect, is definitely not a good solution in 2007. Try a suitable

Re: [css-d] Centering a div with an image

2007-12-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Erik Moström wrote: > Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07-12-21 11.08 >> Try a suitable "shrink to fit" block formatting... >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting> >> ...directly on the #jem-photobackground instead, and s

Re: [css-d] How to contain floats without structural markup

2007-12-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: > What my concern is that other CSS user may copy parts of this, > potentially morphing itself around the various mailing list and > forums and result in new user of CSS who use these hack not > understanding what is going on in there page when they may have some > invalid d

Re: [css-d] Layout & Overflow issue

2007-12-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen wrote: > http://test.intellit.nl/test.html > > As you can see there is overflow for the X and Y axis, but I only > expect the Y axis to be overflowing. What is causing this behavior? > And how can I fix this? I suppose it has to do with box model which I > probably interpret incorrectly

Re: [css-d] White Block moving up

2007-12-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Brown wrote: > Could you take a quick gander at this site please and help me > understand why the white block has moved up into the header div > please. Only in IE/win :-) Actually: the white block doesn't really move up, but the header collapses b

Re: [css-d] need help on vertical alignement

2007-12-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick Aljord wrote: > Hi all, I need help for those two divs "details" and "body" in my > container, they don't have the same height and I would like them to > have the same height. Any way to do this with css? > > here is the page: http://p80.free.fr/testy/dropdown/test.html Yes, "same heigh

Re: [css-d] Layout & Overflow issue

2007-12-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen wrote: > . > > How does the aligning of the floats work? Floats go as high as they can, but not higher - unless you pull them up. So, floats always align vertically with their top edge or margin in line with whatever element they line up against. With 2 f

Re: [css-d] Layout & Overflow issue

2007-12-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen wrote: > It seems when you have a container and floats inside them, the > container does not stretch to the size of the floats. Is there a way > to overcome that problem without specifying the sizes explicitly? > > Sample code: . Sure. It's the old "ex

Re: [css-d] Layout & Overflow issue

2007-12-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen wrote: > the right float has 10px smaller > font size. the right float has > same font size as left. > > Any clues? Either you had a margin-top in there, or the software you got that outline from is broken beyond

Re: [css-d] Layout & Overflow issue

2007-12-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen wrote: > I see you added a width of 510px to the details container, the problem is > I don't know the size beforehand, it changes with every photo. The pblog > software I use only gives out the width of the photo (533px) in this case. > > Is there a way to do it with percentages / relative

Re: [css-d] Cross browser question

2007-12-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter Mount wrote: > I've been using child selectors for CSS to work in both Firefox and > IE. As IE7 uses the child selectors I want to stop using them. I've > read about conditional comments but I'd rather not use them if I can. > I'd prefer a hack free way of using css for cross browser > c

Re: [css-d] Div's not aligning right in IE7

2007-12-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave M G wrote: > http://tokyocomedy.com/tokyo_comedy_store > In Explorer version 7, on XP and Vista, however, the alignment of > various tags is askew > What is IE7 doing different? For one: IE7 doesn't support the 'inherit' value any more than IE6 does, so - among other things - several ele

Re: [css-d] Div's not aligning right in IE7

2007-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave M G wrote: > However, two problems remain. The background graphics on the left and > right side of of the main body are still a little out of alignment. The addition of... #left-side, #right-side {zoom: 1;} ...or whatever 'hasLayout' trigger you fancy that doesn't break other browsers, will

Re: [css-d] list whitespace bug issue with IE

2007-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lisa G. Wilcox wrote: > > I don’t have IE6 on my computer but I’ve ran the browser > compatibility check in Dreamweaver CS3 and it gives me an Extra > Whitespace in List Links bug issue. I’ve tried to apply the fixes it > recommends and the client still has the i

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